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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tracerfi on June 02, 2013, 09:50:32 AM
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I wish for planes like the Cr 42 F3F Gladiator and planes like that and this is just my opinion would make the game for interesting i would appreciate the feed back :cheers:
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ehhh...ok there were some biplanes that were used in large numbers in combat situations during the early years of the war.
polikarpov i-152
polikarpov i-153
fiat cr32s
fiat cr42
gloster gladiator mk1 and mk2
the grumman f3f-3 was pulled from frontline service by 1941.
not much on others except for some japanese biplanes that were used during the war with china and pulled from service by 1940/41.
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i meant some prewar biplanes it would be interesting to fly the F3F and planes like that
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i meant some prewar biplanes it would be interesting to fly the F3F and planes like that
you want to re-enact kitty hawk?
semp
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you want to re-enact kitty hawk?
semp
some other games have them and i know this game is about ww2 but i still think it could add something different
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i meant some prewar biplanes it would be interesting to fly the F3F and planes like that
Every plane gyrene81 listed was a prewar plane until the war started.
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ehhh...ok there were some biplanes that were used in large numbers in combat situations during the early years of the war.
polikarpov i-152
polikarpov i-153
fiat cr32s
fiat cr42
gloster gladiator mk1 and mk2
the grumman f3f-3 was pulled from frontline service by 1941.
not much on others except for some japanese biplanes that were used during the war with china and pulled from service by 1940/41.
Quite a few more actually
What about the Chinese? I-15bis and Hawk II. III
I was just looking into the Chinese side a few days ago and found a nice web site.
Sino-Japanese Air War 1937-45
http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/sino-japanese.htm (http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/sino-japanese.htm)
Biplane Fighters from the Second World War
http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/biplanes.htm (http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/biplanes.htm)
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oooh thanks for those links Megalodon...nice sources.
i was only looking at aircraft that were still in active numbers through late 41/early 42, and not including all of the ancient crates invovled in the sino-japanese war. according to the second link you posted, the hawk 2 and 3 were pulled from front line duties by 41, and according to another source, the remaining serviceable i-15bis were pulled by the end of 1940 in favor of i-16s.
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109E1 ;)
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This is a very interesting thread. :) :salute
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109E1 ;)
Funny lookin biplane :rolleyes:
Autism in the Family?,
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oooh thanks for those links Megalodon...nice sources.
i was only looking at aircraft that were still in active numbers through late 41/early 42, and not including all of the ancient crates invovled in the sino-japanese war. according to the second link you posted, the hawk 2 and 3 were pulled from front line duties by 41, and according to another source, the remaining serviceable i-15bis were pulled by the end of 1940 in favor of i-16s.
Your welcome,
Yes ...It will take me quite sometime to get through that link :)
Both of those links are the same fellow another link on the 1st page I found cool and didn't know about was these Dudes and the best link IMO
http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/aces.htm (http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/aces.htm)
I think it all depends on at what time period you believe the World was at War....... but some in other countries might say the war started sooner :)
I have quite a few books on most of the very early war planes but these will never be introduced to the game and would just be a waste of time to post about....how ever fun they might be!
Shame,
:salute
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The I153 saw a good amount of action in WWII.
There was a lot of variety in armament and they even made 26 that would go 300mph at 33,000 feet.
(http://russian.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/images/i153-3.jpg)
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imagine an fso or scenario with biplanes...wonder what the turnout would be.
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Any chance we can get the hirri with 2 sets of wongs???? :pray
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Funny lookin biplane :rolleyes:
Autism in the Family?,
It's interwar ;)
Any excuse for another 109E :D
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I thought British cv based biplanes crippled the bismark with torpedoes. I think they were called swordfish but not sure about that. That would be nice to have as well I think.
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I thought British cv based biplanes crippled the bismark with torpedoes. I think they were called swordfish but not sure about that. That would be nice to have as well I think.
not only thY but they had the ability to carry 8 rockets :banana:
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(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/NavyJB&W/F1M-2.jpg)
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I thought British cv based biplanes crippled the bismark with torpedoes. I think they were called swordfish but not sure about that. That would be nice to have as well I think.
i'm not positive but, i think britain was the only country that used the swordfish unlike some of the other biplanes like the i-153. it was one of the slowest and worst armed biplanes used in ww2 lol...still if you're on a ship and see something like this coming at you...
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedkingdom/aircraft/torpedo-bomber/fairey-swordfish-torpedo-bomber/fairey-swordfish-torpedo-bomber-1938-01.png)
it could still make things pucker a bit...
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what plane is that Bino?
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what plane is that Bino?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_F1M
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Slow and poorly armed the Swordfish was, but it was nevertheless pivotal, devastating the Italian Fleet and the potentially Vichy French fleet, enabling the destruction of the Bismarck and thus de-fanging the German surface raiders. The Japanese paid close attention, hence Pearl Harbour.
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Another 'source' (forum) provided a list (I have expanded ir with pics and wiki references - this is neither an endorsement nor argument against any or all planes listed - it is merely added reference):
I was doing some research for a side project about the Fiat CR.42 Falco, an Italian biplane fighter used extensively during WWII. It got me thinking, how many biplanes were used by frontline units in World War 2. So I spent much of today researching this and came up with a list of planes I have been able to confirm being used after 1 Sept 1939.
For the purpose of this list I'm not including aircraft used in the Spanish Civil War or the Sino-Japanese War, nor am I counting trainers. If you know of any that I missed, and I'm certain there are several, please add them to the list. http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/12938-bi-planes-used-in-wwii/
Henschel Hs123 Germany dive-bomber/close-support
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Henschel_Hs_123_in_flight.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_Hs_123
Gloster Galdiator United Kingdom fighter
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Gloster_Gladiator.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Gladiator
Gloster Gauntlet United Kingdom fighter seen use in the middle east for ground attack early in the war
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/OH-XGT_at_EFSE_20080802_05.jpg/640px-OH-XGT_at_EFSE_20080802_05.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Gauntlet
Fairey Fox II United Kingdom fighter used by Belgian during the German blitz
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Fairey_Fox.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Fox
Fairey Swordfish United Kingdom torpedo bomber the "Stringbag" of Sink the Bismark fame
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Swordfish_%287582559196%29.jpg/640px-Swordfish_%287582559196%29.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish
Hawker Fury United Kingdom fighter used by Yugoslavia early in the war
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Hawker_Fury_MkI_K5674_in_hanger_2_%285922642350%29.jpg/640px-Hawker_Fury_MkI_K5674_in_hanger_2_%285922642350%29.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Fury
Polikarpov I-15/152/152 series Soviet Union fighter
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Polikarpov_I-15bis.jpg/640px-Polikarpov_I-15bis.jpg)
(http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/ww2planes/ww2-polikarpov/polikarpov_i_153_chaika-49009.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_I-15
Polikarpov PO-2 Soviet Union trainer used as a nuisance raider against the german army, also known as Nähmaschine (sewing machine)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Po-2LNB_PICT0044.jpg/640px-Po-2LNB_PICT0044.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_Po-2
Kawasaki KI-10 Japan fighter used in 1942 for short range patrols around Japan
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/KI-10_type_II_Kai_page_89.jpg/640px-KI-10_type_II_Kai_page_89.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ki-10
Mitsubishi F1M1 Japan observation 2 seat float plane
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/F1M1-951-naval-group-8.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_F1M
Fiat CR.32 Italy fighter used in the western desert early in the war
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Fiat_CR32.png/640px-Fiat_CR32.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.32
Fiat CR.42 Italy fighter
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Fiat_C.R.42_Vigna_di_Valle.JPG/640px-Fiat_C.R.42_Vigna_di_Valle.JPG)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42
Fokker D.XVII Netherlands fighter last biplane fighter designed by Anthony Fokker or WWI fame
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Fokker_d17_side.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XVII
Avia B-534/Bk-534 Czechoslovakia fighter recorded last bi-plane air-to-air victory on 2 Sept 1944 by shooting down a JU-52 transport
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Avia_B534.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_B-534
Grumman J2F Duck US observation/anti-submarine patrol last plane to fly out of Bataan before it was surrendered to the Japanese
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/J2F-5_1942_NAN11-61.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J2F_Duck
Fairey Albacore United Kingdom torpedo bomber
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Fairey_Albacore_ExCC.jpg/640px-Fairey_Albacore_ExCC.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Albacore
Fokker C.X Netherlands light bomber/reconnaissance 10 in use at start of war by the Netherlands, also used by FInland
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Fokker_CX_Finland.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_C.X
Bristol Bulldog United Kingdom fighter used by Finland, got first air-to-air victory for Finland in the Winter War on 1 Dec 1939
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Bristol_Bulldog.1.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bulldog
Curtiss SoC Seagull US shipbourne reconnaissance float plane
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Curtiss_SOC-1.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_SOC_Seagull
Fairey Seafox United Kingdom shipbourne reconnaissance float plane, participated in the attack on the pocket battleship Admiral Graf Spee by spotting for naval gunners
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Fairey_Seafox.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Seafox
Supermarine Walrus United Kingdom seaplane used for search and rescue among other duties
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Supermarine_Walrus.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Walrus
Supermarine Sea Otter United Kingdom seaplane catapult launched from warships
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/A_prototype_Supermarine_Sea_Otter.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Sea_Otter
Heinkel He.59 Germany seaplane used for search and rescue
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Heinkel_he_59.jpg/640px-Heinkel_he_59.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_59
Heinkel He.50 Germany fighter used as a nuisance raider on the eastern front
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Heinkel_He50a.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_50
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float planes on the concrete waters that exist now, wouldn't work too good.
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float planes on the concrete waters that exist now, wouldn't work too good.
PT Boats work....
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What the heck :D
SAAF Vickers Valentia :old:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/R5wKhS7KXKI/AAAAAAAAAEA/0LH3_KHouWM/s400/Vickers+Valentia.jpg)
"An SAAF Valentia carried out what was perhaps the most madcap bombing raid of World War II. The aircraft had landed at a Kenyan forward base in 1940 to deliver supplies. Over supper that night (probably including a fair amount of the local beer) the airmen were told of an Italian fort at Namoroputh in Somalia which was 'simply waiting to be bombed'. Nothing loth, the intrepid airmen concocted their own 'bomb', consisting of a 40-gallon drum containing '386 sticks of dynamite, parts of a sewing machine, a motorcar differential and two packets of incendiary bullets', according to a contemporary report. Lacking an impact detonator they wired it up to a length of slow-burning mining fuse.
Next morning the aviators (by now doubtless nursing severe hangovers) loaded their bomb into their slow, lumbering transport (its maximum speed - in a dive - was about 120 mph!) and took off. As they approached the fort they lit the fuse and tried to throw the bomb out of the door of their transport. To their horror it stuck fast in the doorway, leading to much pushing and shoving - and language that probably turned the sky a considerably deeper shade of blue than usual! Eventually they managed to heave the bomb out. It scored a direct hit on the fort, which disappeared in a cloud of smoke. The airmen returned to their base to a right royal roasting from their superiors (whose permission for the strike they had neglected to obtain) and three rousing cheers (and many more beers!) from their squadron-mates.
Hawker Hind
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/HawkerHindShuttleworth2004.jpg/800px-HawkerHindShuttleworth2004.jpg)
In 1941, Hinds flew combat missions in their original role as light bombers against Axis forces - South African Hinds were employed against Italian forces in Kenya, during the East African Campaign and Yugoslav Hinds were used against the Germans and Italians
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PT Boats work....
so do cv groups but none of them fly...when you can ditch on water bail out then walk across it, something tells me floatplanes would lose some vital landing equipment trying to land.
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so do cv groups but none of them fly...when you can ditch on water bail out then walk across it, something tells me floatplanes would lose some vital landing equipment trying to land.
You can attach whatever code to the surface behavior of an airplane you want. The PT Boat is not intrinsically different from an airplane from the game's perspective.
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I'm guessing all those new Oscar pilots would sure be disappointed by all those slow, turny 2 wingers clogging up the stallfight :D
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Being as I started in WW-I flight sims, I have a special place in my heart for the biplane. +1
I'll fly the 1939-41 FSO scenarios in them anytime!
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I'm guessing all those new Oscar pilots would sure be disappointed by all those slow, turny 2 wingers clogging up the stallfight :D
I was thinking exactly this Ki43 v Gladiator would be interesting :joystick:
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I was thinking exactly this Ki43 v Gladiator would be interesting :joystick:
It wouldn't be interesting at all, the Oscar would dominate the Gladiator in a fight as it would be able to dicate the fight of its choosing at will.
ack-ack
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CR32, just cuz its SO sexy.. Like a vintage Ferrari with wings..
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It wouldn't be interesting at all, the Oscar would dominate the Gladiator in a fight as it would be able to dicate the fight of its choosing at will.
ack-ack
i could have sworn someone said something similar about the buffalo...for every person that flies a plane to its strength in a fight (like you, shuffler and cobia), there are 10 that get greedy and get sucked in to fighting on the other guys terms. the gladiator wouldn't fare any worse than the i-16.
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CR32, just cuz its SO sexy.. Like a vintage Ferrari with wings..
Agreed.
- oldman