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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: surfinn on June 11, 2013, 08:32:10 PM
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bishops
I personally will continue to rag you guys constantly on 200 when you Ho me, gang me, and vulch me.
However Your team work is incredible. If a enemy's strats need to be hit, you up a 20 man b17 raid with escorts. If a field needs to be resuped, it is before the ord porker is out of the dar ring. If your attacking a field you send out strike teams that take either the vh or the supps at neighboring fields.
If your front basses are porked you up the mission as a field resup and instantly up as a strike package.
If your strats needs to be resuped you do it as a team and its up in 20 mins. I admire what you guys do as a team, although it can be frustrating as well.
I have to say though a lot of my frustration towards the bish stems from your little ankle bitters that always have something negative to say to the few who were brave enough to take on a large well organized team, as individuals going against the mass.
Maybe just maybe you should teach them how to be gracefull in victory. :salute
Oh and Ps the p38 p51 raids are getting boring can you guys through in a old school ju87 raid every once in a while?
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I would love to go Bishop sometimes to hang out with some of those guys, but then I wouldn't have nearly as many targets :banana:
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baechpos
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Suffinn,
Thank you for the accolade!
Your wish for a JU87 raid en masse has been put before the Grand Poobah, and I'm sure will be granted in one form or another. :D
As for the ankle biters; not suggesting that myself or any bishop for that matter would encourage such behavior, you could
consider self efficacy as evident by your self admission to rag on 200 for conditions which grieve you. Conditions while not
unique to this sim, and however undesirable, have and will likely always exist.
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bishops
I personally will continue to rag you guys constantly on 200 when you Ho me, gang me, and vulch me.
However Your team work is incredible. If a enemy's strats need to be hit, you up a 20 man b17 raid with escorts. If a field needs to be resuped, it is before the ord porker is out of the dar ring. If your attacking a field you send out strike teams that take either the vh or the supps at neighboring fields.
If your front basses are porked you up the mission as a field resup and instantly up as a strike package.
If your strats needs to be resuped you do it as a team and its up in 20 mins. I admire what you guys do as a team, although it can be frustrating as well.
I have to say though a lot of my frustration towards the bish stems from your little ankle bitters that always have something negative to say to the few who were brave enough to take on a large well organized team, as individuals going against the mass.
Maybe just maybe you should teach them how to be gracefull in victory. :salute
Oh and Ps the p38 p51 raids are getting boring can you guys through in a old school ju87 raid every once in a while?
^^^This.^^^
I agree that there are some guys who think that just because the get a kill on you while they are surrounded by their buddies, they are entitled to calling out your skill (or apparent lack there of) on 200 even though it took 5 of them to shoot you down. A lot of bish are good guys, and some have been jumping around to other countries lately. It gives some of us a chance to get to know them a bit better as a person and not as a name that shows up to keep track of kills.
The level of organization that you demonstrate is amazing. Sometimes I wish the rooks hat that level of organization. Rooks can get focused on a target and don't want to walk away until the job is done. Case in point, today I got on and there were 4 guys trying to defend against the bish rolling our bases. Meanwhile the other 45 rooks were ganging on a single nit base with no apparent uppers. It still took them an hour to take and it took 2 hours to get enough guys rolling towards the bish to start taking bases back.
As for the missions, the B-38 raids are getting old. Can you guys try running some old fashion missions with actual bombers and fighter escorts? ET37 runs them on the rooks side and they are a blast. Even if you don't capture the base you are hitting, you still have fun doing it. It's also a lot more fun intercepting such missions because the defenders get more of a chance to defend.
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
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Serious Question ????
What is a bishpos?
:headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
Not so much when I asked a few bish to help me defend an AF under a horde, they laughed (especially angus who i challenged to up a 262 with me to defend it)
turns out a V-guy actually did with me, and we stopped the field from being taken.. team work in taking undefended bases yes, defending not so much.
Then again when theres a large red dar over a sector, most just say "its lost anyway".
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The bigger the red bar the faster I go to counter it :t
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
Define teamwork!
-All you see is 40-60-100 green guys shuting down a small airfield or a GV base? Sheep-mentality? Yea, thats awesome, but isnt that avoiding combat in an air combat game?
-Porking. Often in a suicide way. Often even the surrounding bases, as someone mentioned. First, thats combat-avoiding for the porker (he wont fight back, but yell at you, "you fin hyene, cant do anything else but picking on those who are shot up by ack") and for the horde too (go drop the VH there and there, they cant spawn in then - we dont have to interact with any red guy then). Again, avoiding combat in an air combat game.
And thats why they dont defend, they might even see red guys who could eventually fight back!
Actually, during theese 3 weeks, only seen 2 Bishops who fought back: Tongs and Strega.
By the way, last time i met Angus, he was in the middle of 3 full darbars, at 20k in a 262. Those 3 full darbars were attacking a GV base - the one whats in front of V85 on the current map. He lost that jet though.
Edit: forgot the main point, why the knitrooks hates teamwork? Because there are much less of them who would fly 2 sectors alone in a p38 only to auger into an ords bunker. They horde too, though, thats in the human nature.
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Serious Question ????
What is a bishpos?
:headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:
Could be a rebuke following getting mobbed to death by the horde?
i.e YOU BISH POS! :)
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^^^This.^^^
As for the missions, the B-38 raids are getting old. Can you guys try running some old fashion missions with actual bombers and fighter escorts? ET37 runs them on the rooks side and they are a blast. Even if you don't capture the base you are hitting, you still have fun doing it. It's also a lot more fun intercepting such missions because the defenders get more of a chance to defend.
ET ran several last night including a whooper CV raid. It was indeed a good time.
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debrody squad cant take a base and u shoot one down they call u names :banana:
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
:bhead
That is a bit over the top, really. Perception is the culprit here. Your perception that Rooks and Knights do not typically gang up in "teams" of 30 people to over whelm a field so it has no chance of defending is far different than mine. Also, your overly grandeur statement "Rook/Knight hate Bish because they hate teamwork" is way out of line. We in Duxford Wing RAF work rather well internally as a squad to hit field strats (otherwise known as "porkin'"), and work very well with other squads and the Rooks in general. Thing is, we in Duxford, the Rooks and Knights (in general), see Aces High as a much bigger thing than just capturing fields with hordes of ENY 5 planes, there are many more things to do in AH. Having to fight for a target while being in that 20-30 man horde, not having to work for the "winz!", and otherwise being amongst the likes of a bunch of Xbawks gamers, score hoars, and rank lamers is about as narrow of an experience as a person can have while partaking in the AH experience. Last word: I do not, along with most people I associate with, draw a direct correlation of self worth to the number of kills I land, the number of fields we capture or maps we "winz!", or the number of stars by my name. If teamwork is by your definition sending a massed horde of P51D's to a field so there is no chance of defense, then you're right I want nothing to do with your definition of "teamwork". Furthermore, I'd rather work my tail off in a P40 and barely lose to a high ENY LW plane than to be in a P51D and have it easy, that goes for my entire experience in AH.
So.... do you agree now that perception is the culprit? :aok
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The worst part of this game is flying forever and not being able to find stuff to shoot at.
Thank you hordes, regardless of where you hail from.
:salute
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Bishops-You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
OWK
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debrody squad cant take a base and u shoot one down they call u names :banana:
There isnt a "debrody squad" around as far as i know. Nor "debrody". Not that i give a damn about taking bases either.
By the way, if you gang me, run to many buddies then grow balls, or just generally act timid or retarded, dont worry, ill let you know what i think about you :aok Just as some certain (what a surprise, bish) people call me various kinds of cheater, hacker, HTC's arselicker for codes, etc, right after when they just bail withouth a fight when i chase them down. Retards.
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Bishops-You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
OWK
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I enjoy flying bishop but mostly fly rook.
When I fly bishop, I usually try not to kill my former rook teammates but it sometimes happens.
Pretty much my only motivation for switching country is when one has a spawn deliciously near an enemy HQ or city.
If you think I am making one of my trips to the city and want to intervene, up a fast moving tank and kill me like a real man instead of simply grabbing a fighter with 1000s and doing the same thing you've been doing for the last decade.
I've upped a M8 and killed the intrepid tank that drove to our strats and that kill was far more rewarding than all of my other tank kills combined.
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
:aok
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bishops
I personally will continue to rag you guys constantly on 200 when you Ho me, gang me, and vulch me.
However Your team work is incredible. If a enemy's strats need to be hit, you up a 20 man b17 raid with escorts. If a field needs to be resuped, it is before the ord porker is out of the dar ring. If your attacking a field you send out strike teams that take either the vh or the supps at neighboring fields.
If your front basses are porked you up the mission as a field resup and instantly up as a strike package.
If your strats needs to be resuped you do it as a team and its up in 20 mins. I admire what you guys do as a team, although it can be frustrating as well.
I have to say though a lot of my frustration towards the bish stems from your little ankle bitters that always have something negative to say to the few who were brave enough to take on a large well organized team, as individuals going against the mass.
Maybe just maybe you should teach them how to be gracefull in victory. :salute
Oh and Ps the p38 p51 raids are getting boring can you guys through in a old school ju87 raid every once in a while?
So this is a whine thread covered up with a compliment....... :old: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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No sir not at all.
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
:airplane: You are a good "stick" and an worthy opponent in a furball! I run missions every night int he MLW arena, and we are successful about 2/3rd's of the time. What we need to do, all of us who really enjoy this game, is urge Hi Tech to move the down times to at least :20 min, instead of the current 15, that way, you would not have to put a horde together to capture bases! I don't hate the Bish, just respect them for their organization skills and mission planning!
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I assure you, a number of us look for the dar that is much less green then red, and we have no problem finding those. Which means every team has the same players with different names. Because it's a game, we pay to have fun our way, not have someone else have fun our way. Some take bases, some organize, some defend, some run to land two kills rather than fight a plane that is just upping 1k off their six in order to get their name in lights. All the same, every side.
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surfinn ty for compliment :D hehe and as far as the boring B38 and P51 bombtruck raids go I'll see what I can do maybe get the 91st guys to do a little bombing ;)
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There isnt a "debrody squad" around as far as i know. Nor "debrody". Not that i give a damn about taking bases either.
By the way, if you gang me, run to many buddies then grow balls, or just generally act timid or retarded, dont worry, ill let you know what i think about you :aok Just as some certain (what a surprise, bish) people call me various kinds of cheater, hacker, HTC's arselicker for codes, etc, right after when they just bail withouth a fight when i chase them down. Retards.
Wonder if this guy has any real friends outside of AH. Seems like kind of a jerk with most of his posts.
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Wonder if this guy has any real friends outside of AH. Seems like kind of a jerk with most of his posts.
he's actually a decent guy unless you're making an attempt to step on his balls...then he can be as much of an a-hole as the rest of us.
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I'm a Bish and I don't work well together. :headscratch:
Nevermind. I'm a Bishop, not a Bishpo.
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Bishops are amazing at working together. Rooks and Knights hate teamwork and that's why they hate the Bish so much.
That is a total fabrication. Horsehockey. We hate each other, therefore cannot work well together. There is a huge difference. We really want to....we just can't.
EDIT: Unless one of the Nits finds FlyinFinn...then we all band together through our hatred of one another to kill him a lot and laugh. Arguments and deeper hatred have ensued over who actually got the kill on the cement bag-pumping intardnet toughvag
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In my honest opinion the knights need some psychiatric help.
They believe in sending a CV four sectors to take a port surrounded by air bases instead of taking the air field which would be easier to defend.
They also believe that if a base is being taken that the closest base to furball to that base that is being rolled is the only way to play the game.
Then whine about them losing bases rapidly to bishop and rook horde. :old:
This is indeed me crying about the knights country but I love them because they are the under dogs and a lot of good pilots/great potential on knights.
(See what I did there Surfinn) :rolleyes:
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In my honest opinion the knights need some psychiatric help.
They believe in sending a CV four sectors to take a port surrounded by air bases instead of taking the air field which would be easier to defend.
They also believe that if a base is being taken that the closest base to furball to that base that is being rolled is the only way to play the game.
Then whine about them losing bases rapidly to bishop and rook horde. :old:
This is indeed me crying about the knights country but I love them because they are the under dogs and a lot of good pilots/great potential on knights.
(See what I did there Surfinn) :rolleyes:
I am a Knight and approve this message. :D
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90% of my friends are knights. starting to fly bish and rook more. Although i had a blast killing knights a efew days ago as a bish :t :t :t :t
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i was going to start my own thread but this is as good of place as any to ask a question and make a statement ..im a bish always..and mainly stay in MW but lately hangin in LW. i see a lot of complaining about ..hos/vulch/ack running/hordes/base sitting/spawn camping/etc.on 200..and ive seen every country do all those..my question is..is there such thing as war time ethics?isnt it see red kill red by any means possible? no one like to get hoed but its war..isnt the DA more for that 1v1 thing?my ego gets shatterd like everyone elses but i dont call people names or badger them on 200..only under my own breath LOL maybe i just wont tune to 200 problem solved...i am willing to change the way i fly or fight but i will try to fly or fight to my advantage not the enemys. :salute
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i was going to start my own thread but this is as good of place as any to ask a question and make a statement ..im a bish always..and mainly stay in MW but lately hangin in LW. i see a lot of complaining about ..hos/vulch/ack running/hordes/base sitting/spawn camping/etc.on 200..and ive seen every country do all those..my question is..is there such thing as war time ethics?isnt it see red kill red by any means possible? no one like to get hoed but its war..isnt the DA more for that 1v1 thing?my ego gets shatterd like everyone elses but i dont call people names or badger them on 200..only under my own breath LOL maybe i just wont tune to 200 problem solved...i am willing to change the way i fly or fight but i will try to fly or fight to my advantage not the enemys. :salute
Depends on the player.
I try not to ho whenever possible. If the other guy is hell bent on making a head on pass after the second or third merge, then bring it. Jugs usually win in the ho but suffer enough damage that they need to RTB.
I will run to ack if I pick up WAY too many guys to deal with. A few passes through the ack thins them out nicely to a more manageable number. I will also ack hug if I am trying to cover guys taking off.
Vulching is my guilty pleasure. Easy kills, it pisses people off, great way to keep the number of fighters down, what's not to like. If anyone complains about this, then they are an idiot. They can hop to the next base and take off without being vulched but they are too stupid to figure that out usually.
I don't usually run unless I have too many guys on me to deal with (happens a lot), in which case I will run until I am down to just one, then turn around and fight (amazing how fast they will turn around and run for their buddies when they lose the advantage). Some of them will even have the stones to call you out on running when they are doing the exact same thing.
Hordes happen, it's part of the LW mentality. All countries are guilty of it, though the productivity of the horde varies with the country.
Spawn camping... nothing wrong with that, we don't want you here. GO AWAY. Most don't listen to this message.
Base sitting... I'm not familiar with this complaint, which means that I'm probably guilty of it on a daily basis. I'm assuming it means sit on base with a tank and kill uppers? Then yes, why not?
My advice, about 70% of the chatter on 200 is trash talk. If you don't want to see it then just don't tune in.
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i was going to start my own thread but this is as good of place as any to ask a question and make a statement ..im a bish always..and mainly stay in MW but lately hangin in LW. i see a lot of complaining about ..hos/vulch/ack running/hordes/base sitting/spawn camping/etc.on 200..and ive seen every country do all those..my question is..is there such thing as war time ethics?isnt it see red kill red by any means possible? no one like to get hoed but its war..isnt the DA more for that 1v1 thing?my ego gets shatterd like everyone elses but i dont call people names or badger them on 200..only under my own breath LOL maybe i just wont tune to 200 problem solved...i am willing to change the way i fly or fight but i will try to fly or fight to my advantage not the enemys. :salute
this is not "war" its not even a War game......
it is a combat game using WW2 equipment.....the key being COMBAT :aok
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i agree dragon on your views just hate to switch off the chatter but it doesnt bother me too much just was an observation :salute
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this is not "war" its not even a War game......
it is a combat game using WW2 equipment.....the key being COMBAT :aok
lol huh....thought it was called early war/mid war and late war..and it says bishops won the war at the end....sorry ink..mybad :aok
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lol huh....thought it was called early war/mid war and late war..and it says bishops won the war at the end....sorry ink..mybad :aok
names......nothing more..........HTC himself many times has said we are NOT replaying WW2 :aok
the "capture the field" was added to promote combat.....
COMBAT whether it be Air, ground, or sea.....that is what AH is about.....
yes many try to make AH into WW2 online......it just is not about that......the MA is a giant sandbox for Combat.....
yes some think the MA is all about the "war" and that is fine....for them.....if thats why you play AH for the "war" you will never experience the full true nature of the MA.....
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im expeirancing my butt getting whooped in LW as we speak LOL
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names......nothing more..........HTC himself many times has said we are NOT replaying WW2 :aok
the "capture the field" was added to promote combat.....
COMBAT whether it be Air, ground, or sea.....that is what AH is about.....
yes many try to make AH into WW2 online......it just is not about that......the MA is a giant sandbox for Combat.....
yes some think the MA is all about the "war" and that is fine....for them.....if thats why you play AH for the "war" you will never experience the full true nature of the MA.....
the true nature of the MA is hording (seems to be the appropriate thread for that), and capturing undefended fields so you can wtg your team mates with a feel of victory over inanimate objects.
The days of a fight "just for fun" are short lived, and AH will go with it.
I wish HTC would give air combat junkies some love, like a matchmaking system, before we all leave.
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the true nature of the MA is hording (seems to be the appropriate thread for that), and capturing undefended fields so you can wtg your team mates with a feel of victory over inanimate objects.
The days of a fight "just for fun" are short lived, and AH will go with it.
I wish HTC would give air combat junkies some love, like a matchmaking system, before we all leave.
I hear ya....hope you are wrong.
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All countries have there flaws for instance knights never seen to grab altitude so they constantly just get ganged on the deck near there bases, bishops horde and wont fight unless they have an advantage, and rooks are alt monkeys no matter how high you go against rooks theres always someone higher, now these are just my observations from what it has felt like while being knights.
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the true nature of the MA is hording (seems to be the appropriate thread for that), and capturing undefended fields so you can wtg your team mates with a feel of victory over inanimate objects.
The days of a fight "just for fun" are short lived, and AH will go with it.
I wish HTC would give air combat junkies some love, like a matchmaking system, before we all leave.
A). The horde promotes combat. There is no arguing this point, unless someone is a score-potato-avoider...which proves INK's point
B). The horde generally takes defenseless bases because they can. Up a plane and defend it and you'll stop their progression and have enormous fun doing it and watch your SA improve by an order of magnitude in very short order. It's the one and only excuse for flying the spixteen, lmao!
C). Every side hordes....depending on the time of the day based on the numerical weakness of players on the opposing sides.
D). Some squads are big enough to horde on their own. Don't confuse squad ops with country-channel-recruited-hording....squad ops generally cause your death much more efficiently than the aforementioned.
Mix, pour, and enjoy.
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All countries are guilty of the same type of stuff. Some are just known for certain things. The vTards were largely responsible for the recent opinions of Bish being complete horde mongers. Since that groups demise, it's settled down some. For the years I flew with Most Wanted on Rook, I never bought off on the "alt monkey" thing till I switched to kinght and saw it for myself. Again, that rep has worn off in recent months. As someone who's flown for all the chess pieces I can say the stereotypes are sometimes deserved. Bish will give up a base while they take 4 more somewhere else. Rooks will beat their heads against the wall taking a defended base. Knights are often running around like chickens missing their heads. All are fun for different styles of play and they go through cycles over the years.
What seems strange to me is the way two teams will consistently beat down on one. That seems to switch with the maps. For guys like me, It'll be feast or famine. Either I'm fighting a continual 10 on 1 or trying to get the other guys to come out of hiding. This has absoulutely nothing to do with any sides particular stereotype.
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I find it funny, that even though I have NEVER claimed to be an ace, numbskulls like Butcher will name drop on here. The conversation started with him coming to bish with the usual self serving remarks that attention hounds say, such as "I always defend a base in an eny 100 plane and never die" "I just upped a cardboard box and shot down 40 262s." Then he asked if I would wing with him. First off, I am a crappy wing man so I dont usually "wing" with anyone and I simply laughed and told him I dont care what he is doing I wont fly with him. Not because he was in a duece or defending, but that I would rather spend that time trying to slice my wrist with a nerf ball then give one second to someone with his attitude. I leave the urine flow distance contests to those who think this game somehow translates into real life and their accomplishments here will entice the gods to lavish them with gold and women. I fly for fun and the conversations that are had over squad channel. I don't watch nor type in 200, it seems that everyone on there is 10 feet tall with arms of steel. Must be a very dangerous place.
As far as hoardes go, nothing was programmed in this game to know the mentality of the user. It didn't have a survey that sent the hoarders to Bish and the alt monkeys to rook. The differences and similarities are pretty much equal amongst all countries. We are all just guys flying around shooting at stuff, sometimes ho'ing, sometimes running, sometimes ganging, sometimes winning, sometimes losing. I like it, I play it, I enjoy my squad and the friends that come on channel to chat. I would imagine that most on here do exactly the same, there are just those few who, for whatever reason, need to raise their hand and say stupid stuff to either garnish attention or ruffle feathers or reach for something that might fill an empty hole within their lives on the other side of that computer screen. But to the other 99% I salute you, regardless if I kill you or you kill me. Its usually fun unless I throw my joystick to the ground and go break things around the house, I usually then go do something else to cool off. But to the Butchers of the world, I bow to your overall supreme greatness, I couldn't imagine the pressure of having to maintain such perfection day in and day out. I really hope someday the world outside of AH can see what you have done and write about it so all others from this day forward will know what happened here, may you always be remembered.
ANGUS
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Wonder if this guy has any real friends outside of AH. Seems like kind of a jerk with most of his posts.
yupp
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Wonder if this guy has any real friends outside of AH. Seems like kind of a jerk with most of his posts.
Yea i have some. And some enemies too. They all got back what they gave to me - im this simple.