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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Fud on June 18, 2013, 07:39:00 AM
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A Flanker showing off at an airshow....some awesome stuff!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b4_1371530994
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Captured Brewster technology is quite amazing indeed.
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Captured Brewster technology is quite amazing indeed.
I agree! Very similar to the wonder Brewster we have in AH! ;)
My question is what purpose does all this micro-maneuverability serve in a jet fighter such as this? I'd think that if it slowed down that far it would be a sitting duck for enemy fighters. Same goes for the F-22 Raptor.
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I agree! Very similar to the wonder Brewster we have in AH! ;)
My question is what purpose does all this micro-maneuverability serve in a jet fighter such as this? I'd think that if it slowed down that far it would be a sitting duck for enemy fighters. Same goes for the F-22 Raptor.
Ya know I've often wondered that myself. And with the fire and forget missiles out there these days I wonder if thrust vectoring is feasible defense against those things. Someone must think so, for the cost to build these planes is plumb nuts.
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Ya know I've often wondered that myself. And with the fire and forget missiles out there these days I wonder if thrust vectoring is feasible defense against those things. Someone must think so, for the cost to build these planes is plumb nuts.
Indeed. I often wonder why not simply build more of the tried and true F15, F16, F18, Blackhawk, etc. Then again, should billions and billions of $$$ be put in to 100's and 100's of aircraft of the tried and true or the same amount of money be put in to fewer and more specialized aircraft such as the F22, F35, Osprey, etc. Six one way and a half dozen the other I suppose.
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I agree! Very similar to the wonder Brewster we have in AH! ;)
My question is what purpose does all this micro-maneuverability serve in a jet fighter such as this? I'd think that if it slowed down that far it would be a sitting duck for enemy fighters. Same goes for the F-22 Raptor.
Meh, the brewster we have in game flies like a brick compared to what it did in real life! :devil
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Meh, the brewster we have in game flies like a brick compared to what it did in real life! :devil
omg... (http://mrssurvival.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/frying%20pan.gif)
don't stir the porcelain Ripley...
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omg... (http://mrssurvival.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/frying%20pan.gif)
don't stir the porcelain Ripley...
But if you must, please keep doing it with your head. It's fun to watch.
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But if you must, please keep doing it with your head. It's fun to watch.
Dude, it must be the reflection on your screen since we do not have a video uplink on the forums :ahand
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When it comes to cost you must realize that operating a modern jet fighter is very expensive regardless of the cost of the jet itself. After about 50 training flights you've spent more on fuel alone than on buying the aircraft; jet fuel isn't cheap and these birds are thirsty. So saving on performance or capability isn't really that much of a saving when you consider the lifetime cost of the aircraft.
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In the F-35 thrust vectoring is more important for VTOL, but saying it's useless or a waste of money is not a good argument against it. What if you run out of missiles and you have to get in close for the kill? You are going to be glad you've got that thrust vectoring and your opponent doesn't.
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Yup. I'd rather have it than not have it, and since it doesn't cost more than few hours of gas anyways I'd just take one day off... ;)
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After about 50 training flights you've spent more on fuel alone than on buying the aircraft; jet fuel isn't cheap and these birds are thirsty.
Yes, they are quite thirsty but, the cost of a multi-billion dollar fighter, not so much.
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A multi-billion Dollar fighter... What fighter would that be?
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A multi-billion Dollar fighter... What fighter would that be?
Think of the entire spectrum, from concept to RnD, to trials and implementation, etc. The F22 and F35 are both multi-billion dollar aircraft, the most expensive ever even after adjusting for inflation, etc. Mind you, I'm not an opponent of the programs, I just like putting things in to perspective. NATO forces were able to, at least with most war models ever produced and that includes Soviets models, with far inferior numbers but far superior training, tactics, and equipment. Interesting stuff.
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I did some further research and have found out that the pilot of the plane was Redbull...he can do the tailslide in any plane....... :airplane:
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People talk about cost, how much would a wwII fighter, multi engine or bomber aircraft cost vs. the aircraft cost no-a-days. heck even the cost of a aircraft that had radar. (!?)
Any idea?
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A multi-billion Dollar fighter... What fighter would that be?
O.K., then a multi-million dollar fighter. Still, not so much. The F-22 for instance, in the neighborhood of $350 million each (very dependant on who and how the dollars are being counted toward what part of the program).
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I did some further research and have found out that the pilot of the plane was Redbull...he can do the tailslide in any plane....... :airplane:
:lol
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Think of the entire spectrum, from concept to RnD, to trials and implementation, etc. The F22 and F35 are both multi-billion dollar aircraft, the most expensive ever even after adjusting for inflation, etc. Mind you, I'm not an opponent of the programs, I just like putting things in to perspective. NATO forces were able to, at least with most war models ever produced and that includes Soviets models, with far inferior numbers but far superior training, tactics, and equipment. Interesting stuff.
Not per unit they're not. The F-35 is now around $100 million per unit flyaway cost and is projected to be in the $60-70 million range by production lot 10.
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I did some further research and have found out that the pilot of the plane was Redbull...he can do the tailslide in any plane....... :airplane:
:noid
Love watching that pilot manipulate the throttles and make it twirl in the air like that. :aok Just awesome
Could watch it all day :)
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The Russians seem to have a lot better luck with the Su fighters than the Mig 29 at air shows.
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:noid
Love watching that pilot manipulate the throttles and make it twirl in the air like that. :aok Just awesome
Could watch it all day :)
I used to do that in my 4hog lol
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Not per unit they're not. The F-35 is now around $100 million per unit flyaway cost and is projected to be in the $60-70 million range by production lot 10.
I believe they are about 150million fly away cost for the cheapest version the F-35A. However they are projected to cost 78million each as long as all of our foreign customers keep their contracts. Although not multi-billion dollar aircraft like the B-2. These cost's do not include R&D and the cost of the test program just the cost it takes to actually manufacture the aircraft.
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Yes the price includes development costs, and for every new production lot the price goes down since more of the development costs have been paid off in previous lots. Right now you can get an F-35A for about $105 million. By the end of the year the price will be less than $100 million. A new F-16 or F-18 have a flyaway cost of $60-100+ million depending on equipment options.
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Yes the price includes development costs, and for every new production lot the price goes down since more of the development costs have been paid off in previous lots. Right now you can get an F-35A for about $105 million. By the end of the year the price will be less than $100 million. A new F-16 or F-18 have a flyaway cost of $60-100+ million depending on equipment options.
Fly away cost doesn't include development. If you go on wikipedia and see the F-22A is 150 million. That does not include R&D when that is included F-22s are around the $350 million dollar range. Again wikipedia states the B-2 bomber only costs 737million. Negative. The whole program cost about 2.1 billion each as everyone knows.
Flyaway cost is literally just the bare bones aircraft often times the cost of the software isn't included in that price.