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Title: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 03, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Over 4,000 models built, saw plenty of action.  I believe this aircraft could see more use in the MA then the B-26B.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/North_American_B-25_Mitchell_G%C3%B3raszka_2007.jpg)

Thanks,
Warthog
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: 5PointOh on July 03, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
I think you and I are the big fans of this, I've been asking since 2010.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,302784.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349378.0.html
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Karnak on July 03, 2013, 09:46:29 PM
It would be nice to see it added, but I am not sure I agree it would see more use than an updated B-26B.  The B-26 is faster and better defended.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: olds442 on July 03, 2013, 11:04:15 PM
It would be nice to see it added, but I am not sure I agree it would see more use than an updated B-26B.  The B-26 is faster and better defended.
If im not mistaken this has the same defense as the B26 in the rear just the 26 is a HOers nightmare
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Volron on July 03, 2013, 11:06:11 PM
If im not mistaken this has the same defense as the B26 in the rear just the 26 is a HOers nightmare

It can cover below MUCH better than the 25.  I've nip more than my share of folks that go in low, but are just a tad too far to the right or left. :t
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Saxman on July 03, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
It would be nice to see it added, but I am not sure I agree it would see more use than an updated B-26B.  The B-26 is faster and better defended.

I think the gunship version would get a fair bit of usage. Hard to argue with 12 forward .50cal.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 03, 2013, 11:09:36 PM
I think the gunship version would get a fair bit of usage. Hard to argue with 12 forward .50cal.

^This
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: MK-84 on July 03, 2013, 11:19:25 PM
It would be nice to see it added, but I am not sure I agree it would see more use than an updated B-26B.  The B-26 is faster and better defended.

But the B25 in AH is a heck of a bullet sponge, way more so then the B26.  It in terms of AH is better in terms of defense.  Most attacks in the MA come from the rear. The B25 has a twin mount in the tail as opposed to the single in the B26 and owing to the twin tail allows the top turret an excellent field of fire that the B26 lacks.  It would (could?) have superior frontal armament compared with the b26.
If we assume similar performance to a B25H it has superior rate of climb and in WEP is marginally faster.

Edit: Here are the charts.

Speed performance B25H Vs B26 in AH:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=92&p2=12&pw=2&gtype=0&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)

And Climb:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=92&p2=12&pw=2&gtype=2&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: olds442 on July 03, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
But the B25 in AH is a heck of a bullet sponge, way more so then the B26.  It in terms of AH is better in terms of defense.  Most attacks in the MA come from the rear. The B25 has a twin mount in the tail as opposed to the single in the B26 and owing to the twin tail allows the top turret an excellent field of fire that the B26 lacks.  It would (could?) have superior frontal armament compared with the b26.
If we assume similar performance to a B25H it has superior rate of climb and in WEP is marginally faster.

Edit: Here are the charts.

Speed performance B25H Vs B26 in AH:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=92&p2=12&pw=2&gtype=0&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)

And Climb:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=92&p2=12&pw=2&gtype=2&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
B26 has twin mount tail.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: RedBull1 on July 04, 2013, 01:17:51 AM
Since my friend 1sum41 is a bit busy at the moment I'll speak for both of us when I say YES! +100
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Zacherof on July 04, 2013, 03:12:36 AM
Since my friend 1sum41 is a bit busy at the moment I'll speak for both of us when I say YES! +100
^this :D

if I'm not mistaken he worked on a J right?
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Eric19 on July 04, 2013, 06:44:05 AM
+1 plz HTC plz
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Tupac on July 04, 2013, 01:38:11 PM
^this :D

if I'm not mistaken he worked on a J right?

It was a PBJ-1J (Marine Corps version of the B25J) 1sum got me into the group and I also got to do some air shows and wrenching on it.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Zacherof on July 04, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
It was a PBJ-1J (Marine Corps version of the B25J) 1sum got me into the group and I also got to do some air shows and wrenching on it.
Oh that's awesome!!!!!
Wish I had the ability to do some 'wrenching' instead of what I normally do
 :salute
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: MK-84 on July 04, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
B26 has twin mount tail.

Oops you're correct. I missed that after looking at the plane in F3 mode to try and confirm too  :uhoh
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: guncrasher on July 04, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
Over 4,000 models built, saw plenty of action.  I believe this aircraft could see more use in the MA then the B-26B.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/North_American_B-25_Mitchell_G%C3%B3raszka_2007.jpg)

Thanks,
Warthog

 :rofl


semp
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 04, 2013, 10:09:08 PM
Why don't you think so semp?  I've taken more hits in a 25C then the 26B would ever dream of taking.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: guncrasher on July 04, 2013, 11:14:19 PM
Why don't you think so semp?  I've taken more hits in a 25C then the 26B would ever dream of taking.


well I would like to hear your reasoning why the b25 would be used more.  I mean is it the speed?  the ords?  the defensive guns?  because currently the b25's are mostly used to hunt for gv's and not for bombing.  that is my perception anyway, so what makes you think it will be used more than the b26? 


semp
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Zacherof on July 04, 2013, 11:44:38 PM
whats the difference between the H and the J besides the 75mm cannon?


And when we getting rockets! :furious :furious
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 05, 2013, 12:19:03 AM
I guess I didn't come across the way I would of liked to when I posted this.  I just think the B-25J is a more versatile aircraft in some ways given the fact that it can carry 8x 5in rockets with a 3,000 pound bomb load (it also has the ability to carry a torpedo).  It basically has the same defensive capabilities as the 26 though the 26's waist gunners can reach a bit lower then the 25J.  With almost 10,000 models of the B-25s (4,300+ of them being 25J's) I think people could have a more versatile aircraft in some ways that the B-26 can't do.  Ie: de-acking, anti-carrier duties, etc.


I personally love this aircraft and I think it would make a great addition to the AH collection of aircraft.

Warthog
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 05, 2013, 12:20:56 AM
Also, main selling point!  It has a tail gun! :P
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Arlo on July 05, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
Also, main selling point!  It has a tail gun! :P

 :D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img837/2884/50ev.png)
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 05, 2013, 12:36:52 AM
Perfect!  now just give it a glass nose take away the 75mm and enable formations!
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Arlo on July 05, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
Perfect!  now just give it a glass nose take away the 75mm and enable formations!

Sometimes ya gotta make a choice ..... becauuuuuse ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKeSRsy2l9E  :D

(Or maybe you can ... after other models)  ;)
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: AceHavok on July 05, 2013, 01:00:19 AM
of course, We need to update older models!
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on October 05, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
I'll just call it the baby B-17 +1  :aok
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Blinder on October 05, 2013, 09:54:45 PM
+1   :aok

I say ....bring the Jay!
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: swareiam on October 19, 2013, 12:04:48 AM
I wanted to add my request for the B-25J. It is a beloved air frame that would definitely not be a hangar queen. The B-25J would relegate the "C" model to obscurity, but I would pay that price.

+1 for the B-25J

 :salute
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: earl1937 on October 19, 2013, 07:11:51 AM
I think the gunship version would get a fair bit of usage. Hard to argue with 12 forward .50cal.
:airplane: The "C" model in this game would be soon forgotten!
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Blinder on October 19, 2013, 10:51:35 AM
Probably wouldn't take much effort to place it in the game. Just take the existing C model and do a little rework in the programming and modeling. Of all the wish requests for new airframe additions I've seen (including my own) this is the most realistic and plausible for the near term.

I hope AH is reading these.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: swareiam on October 20, 2013, 05:05:22 AM
Probably wouldn't take much effort to place it in the game. Just take the existing C model and do a little rework in the programming and modeling. Of all the wish requests for new airframe additions I've seen (including my own) this is the most realistic and plausible for the near term.

I hope AH is reading these.

Actually, you could take the "H" model and pretty much just add formations and a glass nose and you're done.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Soulyss on October 20, 2013, 12:52:21 PM
Actually, you could take the "H" model and pretty much just add formations and a glass nose and you're done.

You'd also need to change the shape of the nose, the J had the longer nose similar to the early C models.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Tank-Ace on October 20, 2013, 02:09:40 PM
:airplane: The "C" model in this game would be soon forgotten!

I don't think I've seen a B-25C since I came back in July.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: guncrasher on October 20, 2013, 06:29:43 PM
B26 has twin mount tail.

and in addition to the twin guns it has speed.



semp
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Blinder on October 20, 2013, 08:23:17 PM
I don't think I've seen a B-25C since I came back in July.

They're in the back corner of the hanger under a dust covered tarp right next to the He-111s.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on October 21, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
They're in the back corner of the hanger under a dust covered tarp right next to the He-111s.
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Aces%20High%20Motivational%20Posters/he111.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/Aces%20High%20Motivational%20Posters/he111.jpg.html)
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: CASHEW on October 21, 2013, 05:53:13 PM
+1
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: Rob52240 on October 22, 2013, 03:14:36 AM
+1
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: wpeters on October 22, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
+1
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2013, 02:31:58 AM
I don't think I've seen a B-25C since I came back in July.
I've flown the C multiple times this tour, and killed a set of lanc a2a this past week.
Title: Re: B-25J Mitchell
Post by: sparky1 on October 23, 2013, 09:42:23 AM
+1  :joystick:8