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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rob52240 on September 04, 2013, 09:55:26 PM
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I went shooting today at my local public shooting range. I think we need a new rules sign because the one we have is so worn out that I couldn't read any of the rules.
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I hope you guys thought it was as funny as I did.
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Actually it's sad. Makes me worry about who's armed and who isn't.
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Those warnings are there to help protect everyone's safety. Range rules are a good idea to follow. I personally have talked to two people who had shot themselves, and it was not a fun experience for either.
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Even worse are the holes in the highway signs. Somewhere at the end of that bullets trajectory somebody's kid is sleeping.
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I don't know how serious your Range Master(s) take their jobs at your ranges. But, here, light messing around is likely to result in a stern warning with Master's hand on his sidearm. Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
Here they don't tolerate anyone breaking any rules and offenders will be told to leave immediately if they do it twice. Many of our ranges are staffed by some sort of law enforcement (G&F usually,) thus they have the authority to arrest too.
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But, here, light messing around is likely to result in a stern warning with Master's hand on his sidearm. Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
That sounds about as idiotic as shooting a sign.
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Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
Riiiiiight. Because doing such in a Felony. Any more exaggerations to regale us with?
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Riiiiiight. Because doing such in a Felony. Any more exaggerations to regale us with?
Pointing a loaded weapon at someone, whether accidentally or unintentionally presents a dangerous situation; one in which any LEO has the responsibility to protect those in harms way.
Where did I mention felony? Disobeying the rules, some of which are laws, will result in arrest. Furthermore, after the first warning, further disobeying the rules, again, some of which are laws and disobeying a LEO telling you to stop breaking such rules/laws can be construed as obstructing law enforcement.
Do you spend much time at shooting ranges? Sure doesn't seem like it. Try screwing around at an AZ shooting range and see what happens.
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Its actions like that, that leads to ranges getting closed, innocent people getting hurt (or worse), homes in the area getting hit....leading to the ranges getting closed.....Im really tired of moronic "shooters" actions affecting legitimate..safe shooters.....so in a nutshell, that photo is just sad. If i got out of my car, and saw a sign like that, id get right back in my car.....I really do enjoy breathing, and god willing, i get to do so for a long time....not to mention the example it sets for youngsters getting into the shooting sports......thats just beyond stupid and pathetic
(Just to clarify, the above is not pointed at you in any way Rob, just my opinion of the people that did that to the sign)
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I don't know how serious your Range Master(s) take their jobs at your ranges. But, here, light messing around is likely to result in a stern warning with Master's hand on his sidearm. Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
Here they don't tolerate anyone breaking any rules and offenders will be told to leave immediately if they do it twice. Many of our ranges are staffed by some sort of law enforcement (G&F usually,) thus they have the authority to arrest too.
Ive been a RO for a long time at my friends indoor range and gunshop, and anyone that 1. breaks the rules 2. acts in anyway, in the ROs opinion, could put anyone in harms way, is immediately told to make the weapon safe, case it and asked to leave, no arguement.....you leave period. If said person will not leave, or gives me a hard time, Law enforcement is called, and the people are made to leave..
Ive only had this happen on one occasion, and the person was less than happy being told to leave, thankfully 2 booths over was Lt.Merrigan of the local PD...needless to say it ended quickly and the person left.
(we let all the local Federal, State and Local law enforcement officers shoot at our range for free.....just good business that has paid off in spades. People that shoot there know that many many LEOs hang out at our range, and act accordingly.
In the same breath, I asked a Philadelphia police officer to leave the range for sweeping his buddies twice with the muzzle of his service weapon, if i think they are breaking the rules, or not acting in a safe manner your out regardless....
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It's an unsupervised public shotgun range, there is no range master aside from the visitors.
I imagine it was shot by people who ran out of targets before running out of ammo. I don't believe the vandals were being dangerous per se. After visiting every shop in town we only managed to find one lonely box of clay pigeons to purchase and after those were gone ended up throwing planks of wood. Once those were gone we resorted to making cut slugs out of the remaining birdshot and fired them at the empty beer cases some youths left the parking area.
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:huh Ahh... drinking and firearms. Both are so much better when combined.
That range sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
Wiley.
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This is why we cannot have nice things.
My local range got attacked by stupid people a couple years ago. What was once nice benches and shelters for separate pistol and rifle ranges became shot up and generally trashed. Luckily, a combination of state and local organizations pitched in and fixed all the stupid. Hopefully it stays that way this time.
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I don't know how serious your Range Master(s) take their jobs at your ranges. But, here, light messing around is likely to result in a stern warning with Master's hand on his sidearm. Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
Here they don't tolerate anyone breaking any rules and offenders will be told to leave immediately if they do it twice. Many of our ranges are staffed by some sort of law enforcement (G&F usually,) thus they have the authority to arrest too.
If an RO tried that where I'm from, they would not like the results. I've never been chewed out by an RO, but if they did that to one of the rednecks, they would have about 10 rednecks with guns pointed right back at them.
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If an RO tried that where I'm from, they would not like the results. I've never been chewed out by an RO, but if they did that to one of the rednecks, they would have about 10 rednecks with guns pointed right back at them.
Yes, only slightly unprofessional. :rolleyes:
Also the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of as the first course of action.
Anyone that intentionally draws on another person in that manner better be prepared to pull the trigger, as I would be likely reciprocate in that situation.
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Pointing a loaded weapon at someone, whether accidentally or unintentionally presents a dangerous situation; one in which any LEO has the responsibility to protect those in harms way.
Where did I mention felony? Disobeying the rules, some of which are laws, will result in arrest. Furthermore, after the first warning, further disobeying the rules, again, some of which are laws and disobeying a LEO telling you to stop breaking such rules/laws can be construed as obstructing law enforcement.
Do you spend much time at shooting ranges? Sure doesn't seem like it. Try screwing around at an AZ shooting range and see what happens.
I belong to a sportsman club. You are the gun owner that screws over everyone else. If you don't realize the error in your posts, you might consult an LEO. You do not live in the Wild West, although you seem to think it.
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Pointing a loaded weapon at someone, whether accidentally or unintentionally presents a dangerous situation; one in which any LEO has the responsibility to protect those in harms way.
Where did I mention felony? Disobeying the rules, some of which are laws, will result in arrest. Furthermore, after the first warning, further disobeying the rules, again, some of which are laws and disobeying a LEO telling you to stop breaking such rules/laws can be construed as obstructing law enforcement.
Do you spend much time at shooting ranges? Sure doesn't seem like it. Try screwing around at an AZ shooting range and see what happens.
:O Didn't figure Sheriff Joe played AH. Welcome!
Wiley.
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It is sad to see irresponsibility such as that. Destruction of property by any means is a sad deal.
I'm so very glad I belong to a private club. Being able to drive up, swipe to card over the reader and have the gate open is a nice touch. Also knowing that when I get around the berm I'm not going to have the local ghetto monkeys sporting their baggy pants and irresponsible behavior is a nice feeling as well. My range caps membership at 250 people and the members need to be very careful or else they are shown the door. The $50 a year is a steal for membership dues considering the security, the variety of ranges to shoot at (pistol 5-25yd, rifle 25-300yd), etc.
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I don't know how serious your Range Master(s) take their jobs at your ranges. But, here, light messing around is likely to result in a stern warning with Master's hand on his sidearm. Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm
pointed at your face.
every single post you make confirms my impression of you as the worst kind of human being
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It is sad to see irresponsibility such as that. Destruction of property by any means is a sad deal.
I'm so very glad I belong to a private club. Being able to drive up, swipe to card over the reader and have the gate open is a nice touch. Also knowing that when I get around the berm I'm not going to have the local ghetto monkeys sporting their baggy pants and irresponsible behavior is a nice feeling as well. My range caps membership at 250 people and the members need to be very careful or else they are shown the door. The $50 a year is a steal for membership dues considering the security, the variety of ranges to shoot at (pistol 5-25yd, rifle 25-300yd), etc.
Same here, i love the club i belong to, its really the only way to go :aok
Speaking of which, VonMessa, did you ever get that membership? if need be i can send you another application, and u can put me down as a sponser for your membership.....let me know
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Coombz appears in a gun related thread. How shocking. :)
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oh dear someone evidently has a sandy vagina for some reason
i posted in a Miley Cyrus thread too :noid
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oh dear someone evidently has a sandy vagina for some reason
i posted in a Miley Cyrus thread too :noid
Twerk that gun Coombzy!
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:huh Ahh... drinking and firearms. Both are so much better when combined.
That range sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
Wiley.
It's next to a gravel road, my state is completely covered by a grid of gravel roads every mile N/S and E/W. Teens & Young adults who have no place to drink or smoke pot will drive up and down them at low speed while intoxicating themselves at night because they don't get patrolled and it's nearly impossible to get lost for more than 10 minutes.
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I belong to a sportsman club. You are the gun owner that screws over everyone else. If you don't realize the error in your posts, you might consult an LEO. You do not live in the Wild West, although you seem to think it.
Do you live in some podunk town where you never have any problems? Have you ever gone to a range with a large metro population nearby? Here often there is a wait even in 100degrees to get a lane. If so, then I can understand your unfamiliarity with ppl misbehaving at one, otherwise you're intentionally being obtuse for what reason I'm unaware.
I'm not talking about sportsman's club or these public shooting ranges that are unsupervised. Furthermore, I wouldn't be attending any public/unsupervised range. With all the gangbangers in Phoenix, it very well could become the wild west at one. And not in the so called fantasy way that you believe I for some reason live in.
Errors in my post, so which LEO you want me to call to discuss it with, I have numerous LEO friends here in AZ, a couple in CA, and an Uncle in IL, which one shall I discuss with? Which error?
I'm trying to spell it out clearly for you since you seem to have comprehension problems, but I can't find the article where we had a Range Master shoot a misbehaving patron at the range I visit most frequently. You know the reason why I can't find the article in a cursory web search: http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120826scottsdale-gun-club-shooting.html
Every search yields the instances above where we've had suicides and a murder suicide at that private range...
Von: I didn't say it was the first course of action, and nor did I say it was for less than egregious behavior, I said the lesser type of behavior would get a warning, followed by ejection.
The Sheriff Joe of AH: I'd like to take that as a compliment, but there are way too many more in here that meet that description before I do. But thanks anyway, Sheriff Joe is awesome!
Finally I guess I have to ask those of you who seem to think things are vastly different than I describe in a place you don't visit. What is your definition of messing around, or misbehaving at a shooting range? I can't comprehend LEO or Range M/O's acting in any other way but to make sure their patrons are safe from those behaving carelessly with firearms.
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oh dear someone evidently has a sandy vagina for some reason
i posted in a Miley Cyrus thread too :noid
Someone does. Hence my observation. :salute
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every single post you make confirms my impression of you as the worst kind of human being
Coming from you that is a compliment of enormous magnitude. Thank you very much. :aok
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Do you live in some podunk town where you never have any problems? Have you ever gone to a range with a large metro population nearby? Here often there is a wait even in 100degrees to get a lane. If so, then I can understand your unfamiliarity with ppl misbehaving at one, otherwise you're intentionally being obtuse for what reason I'm unaware.
I'm not talking about sportsman's club or these public shooting ranges that are unsupervised. Furthermore, I wouldn't be attending any public/unsupervised range. With all the gangbangers in Phoenix, it very well could become the wild west at one. And not in the so called fantasy way that you believe I for some reason live in.
Errors in my post, so which LEO you want me to call to discuss it with, I have numerous LEO friends here in AZ, a couple in CA, and an Uncle in IL, which one shall I discuss with? Which error?
I'm trying to spell it out clearly for you since you seem to have comprehension problems, but I can't find the article where we had a Range Master shoot a misbehaving patron at the range I visit most frequently. You know the reason why I can't find the article in a cursory web search: http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120826scottsdale-gun-club-shooting.html
Every search yields the instances above where we've had suicides and a murder suicide at that private range...
Von: I didn't say it was the first course of action, and nor did I say it was for less than egregious behavior, I said the lesser type of behavior would get a warning, followed by ejection.
The Sheriff Joe of AH: I'd like to take that as a compliment, but there are way too many more in here that meet that description before I do. But thanks anyway, Sheriff Joe is awesome!
Finally I guess I have to ask those of you who seem to think things are vastly different than I describe in a place you don't visit. What is your definition of messing around, or misbehaving at a shooting range? I can't comprehend LEO or Range M/O's acting in any other way but to make sure their patrons are safe from those behaving carelessly with firearms.
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every single post you make confirms my impression of you as the worst kind of human being
"Worst kind of human being"??? Do you really think he would order the sheep in to your bedroom?
Seriously, relax and enjoy the entertainment and don't take this stuff too seriously. You making statements like that is a bit over the top. :aok
on second thought... maybe it isn't? :headscratch:
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You making statements like that is a bit over the top. :aok
you could be right :)
however as I said in my reply, it is not just the quoted text, but rather the cumulative effect of everything I have seen posted by RotBaron that has given me this extremely negative impression of him.
reading his posts gives me dou che chills. especially ones like we see above about asking all his LEO friends to prove him right in an internet argument :lol
of course, i'd be the first to admit it's a bit over the top to judge someone's personality entirely by their postings on an internet message board - no one knows more than i do that a lot of the time it's just a lot of BSing to pass the time :aok
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It is sad to see irresponsibility such as that. Destruction of property by any means is a sad deal.
I'm so very glad I belong to a private club. Being able to drive up, swipe to card over the reader and have the gate open is a nice touch. Also knowing that when I get around the berm I'm not going to have the local ghetto monkeys sporting their baggy pants and irresponsible behavior is a nice feeling as well. My range caps membership at 250 people and the members need to be very careful or else they are shown the door. The $50 a year is a steal for membership dues considering the security, the variety of ranges to shoot at (pistol 5-25yd, rifle 25-300yd), etc.
We cap ours at 500. Our son enjoys the archery side of things now, so I am going to try and get him a beginner's compound. Although, he does like recurves.
Do you live in some podunk town where you never have any problems? Have you ever gone to a range with a large metro population nearby? Here often there is a wait even in 100degrees to get a lane. If so, then I can understand your unfamiliarity with ppl misbehaving at one, otherwise you're intentionally being obtuse for what reason I'm unaware.
I'm not talking about sportsman's club or these public shooting ranges that are unsupervised. Furthermore, I wouldn't be attending any public/unsupervised range. With all the gangbangers in Phoenix, it very well could become the wild west at one. And not in the so called fantasy way that you believe I for some reason live in.
Errors in my post, so which LEO you want me to call to discuss it with, I have numerous LEO friends here in AZ, a couple in CA, and an Uncle in IL, which one shall I discuss with? Which error?
I'm trying to spell it out clearly for you since you seem to have comprehension problems, but I can't find the article where we had a Range Master shoot a misbehaving patron at the range I visit most frequently. You know the reason why I can't find the article in a cursory web search: http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120826scottsdale-gun-club-shooting.html
Gangbangers in Scottsdale/Phoenix? :rofl You seem to be lost. I am not obtuse. I am not unfamiliar and I am not failing to comprehend. My sportsman club is private, i.e., not for the general public. You only have assumptions and you've been wrong the entire time.
Ask the LEO's what the repercussions of pointing a firearm at someone would garner them. Because I can tell you regardless of the state, you're screwed and that has been the only ignorant thing that sparked this whole thing. Now you have dug a deeper hole and I feel bad for you. Fellow gun owners should stand up for each other, but as a Range Officer myself, good luck.
Our Club had a murder two years ago. He bragged in prison serving 20 w/ poss. of Parole, now he will be getting Life w/o. :cheers:
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the range we used when I was a kid almost was closed due to all the littering see video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJHgYTi0By0
my dad and I and about 10 of us spent a whole day cleaning this crap up just so the city of colorado springs didnt close it down, just to be trashed the following week. I had a guy messing with a gun while I was down range there, just a dangerous place to shoot. I enjoyed shooting on Ft. Carson when we were allowed to shoot there, the MPs kept everyone in line as far as safety goes. Private ranges are nice, my friend took me to his club range, had a 600 yard range with a pits, which is cool if any of you have never seen this here is a vid of it
video #1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dXA9A5jY1E
video #2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSU2oa5Rs1I
pretty cool if you have never seen it before :aok
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Coombz: I was told to consult with a LEO by another poster, reread if you missed it.
Masher: Where did I say I was in Scottsdale, or that the range I was referring to is??? The link I posted is for a Scottsdale club and I posted, AS I STATED, those unfortunate events obscure me finding the link to the shooting of patron at the range I go to north of the valley. I don't live in Scottsdale, and if you don't think there are gangbangers in Phoenix you're severely ignorant. Yah, no gangbangers in a metro area of 5 million ppl. But since you brought Scottsdale up, there absolutely none in south Scottsdale/Tempe either :aok mmmmk
Reading comprehension: it apparently is not for everyone.
IIRC there was an argument between patrons which led to the shooting of a patron by a G&F Range Master. But whatever, you go to your range where you think careless and unsafe practices are ok, and I'll keep mine where they're all business and no fooling around.
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Anything more than light messing around is likely going to be met with a Master's sidearm pointed at your face.
Go ahead and think that this would happen champ.
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Woo Hoo!!
This thread is awesome!
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Woo Hoo!!
This thread is awesome!
Agreed.
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every single post you make confirms my impression of you as the worst kind of human being
I dont know about that. Its probably just Hubris and the guy wont back down from what any gun owner or PO knows is just the wrong thing to say. And what he probably knows is wrong. You dont usually find Gangster Disciples, Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings...ect at public ranges. Why go there when you can just practice in the alley?
Pointing a gun at someones head is a serious thing and no PO is going to do that for a safety mistake at a range.