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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: earl1937 on September 06, 2013, 11:36:23 AM
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:bhead After a little over 22,000 hours of flight time, all over this world, I have never had but one sip of beer, (ugh), because I have never wanted anything to inhibit my mind. I came into this forum with idea's of grandeur of maybe helping someone, who like myself when I started in aviation, has a mind who is starved for aviation info, stories of flight, pictures of different aircraft and the never ending lust for seeing what is just over the horizon.
The last 3 years has certainly widened my view of aircraft, pilots and stories of feat's beyond my scope of understanding and reasoning as to why or how and what makes people do and say the things that they do!
I do not, contrary to some people's view, use Wiki much, except to copy something I see which I know is factual, because there are many other sources of information on the net which IS reliable and factual. What is happening now on Wiki is a good example of why it is not reliable, in my view, because the "feminazi's" are posting things on that site, urged on by collage professors giving them course credits, and gosh knows what else they are going to post.
Getting back to my post, I have endured the two most feared things in aviation, Fire and Ice, and have come away wiser and a better pilot for dealing with those. Tornado's, hurricanes, wind shear, clear air turbulence and low ceilings are no big thing, if you are well trained and have the mental discipline to apply the methods prescribed to deal with them. Sometimes one has to improvise, using his best judgement, but that is part of flying.
Someone asked me one time what I thought was the two most dangerous things in world was and my immediate answer was: "doctors in pilot seats and 100 lb women driving 18 wheel trucks on the interstate"!
Now I enter the AH forum and lo and behold, I have finally been driven to drink! Going to go get me a 6 pack of something, don't know what, anybody have a suggestion as to brand?
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:bhead After a little over 22,000 hours of flight time, all over this world, I have never had but one sip of beer, (ugh), because I have never wanted anything to inhibit my mind. I came into this forum with idea's of grandeur of maybe helping someone, who like myself when I started in aviation, has a mind who is starved for aviation info, stories of flight, pictures of different aircraft and the never ending lust for seeing what is just over the horizon.
The last 3 years has certainly widened my view of aircraft, pilots and stories of feat's beyond my scope of understanding and reasoning as to why or how and what makes people do and say the things that they do!
I do not, contrary to some people's view, use Wiki much, except to copy something I see which I know is factual, because there are many other sources of information on the net which IS reliable and factual. What is happening now on Wiki is a good example of why it is not reliable, in my view, because the "feminazi's" are posting things on that site, urged on by collage professors giving them course credits, and gosh knows what else they are going to post.
Getting back to my post, I have endured the two most feared things in aviation, Fire and Ice, and have come away wiser and a better pilot for dealing with those. Tornado's, hurricanes, wind shear, clear air turbulence and low ceilings are no big thing, if you are well trained and have the mental discipline to apply the methods prescribed to deal with them. Sometimes one has to improvise, using his best judgement, but that is part of flying.
Someone asked me one time what I thought was the two most dangerous things in world was and my immediate answer was: "doctors in pilot seats and 100 lb women driving 18 wheel trucks on the interstate"!
Now I enter the AH forum and lo and behold, I have finally been driven to drink! Going to go get me a 6 pack of something, don't know what, anybody have a suggestion as to brand?
Orange juice, water, or a cup of milk. :aok
Think of your liver. :old:
It loves you, you must love it back. :old:
Orange juice, water, or a cup of milk are healthy and help you live longer. :old:
Let it be known. :old:
:salute you real pilot, you. :rock
PS: Stay healthy :)
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Peyote tea. Find your spirit guide.
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Alcohol is not good for you. :old:
shouldn't start now.
although I understand why the BBS is driving you to drink. :rofl
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Kopparberg Pear :aok
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Playing online...?? all you need is wine... ok, maybe few beers too :neener:
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:bhead Getting back to my post, I have endured the two most feared things in aviation, Fire and Ice, and have come away wiser and a better pilot for dealing with those. Tornado's, hurricanes, wind shear, clear air turbulence and low ceilings are no big thing, if you are well trained and have the mental discipline to apply the methods prescribed to deal with them.
hey earl1937 I remember this time in a Piper Arrow coming back to Illinois from Wisconsin. Had spent the day fixing a broken Cessna 150. There was a storm front from Canada to Mexico that had passed over us early in the day and it was getting late, we desperately wanted to get home. As we approached the front it appeared to be solid and we were discussing where to go to stay overnight. I said "hey there's a real low spot we could probably get through that". We decided to go for it. As we approached, the low spot seemed to get higher and higher, "are we gonna make it?" "sure we can make that". We didn't go through any clouds but......we hit turbulence that I felt for sure would rip those wings off. Silly me was in the back seat without my seat belt on. I remember being plastered to the ceiling for what seemed like an eternity and then falling upside down onto the seat. We got lucky that time but we also learned a valuable lesson.
It's just not worth it! :old:
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Samuel Adams with an orange slice is quite good.
I live right down the road from ya Earl. I'll meet you on battlefield parkway and we can split 12! :cheers:
I'd like to hear some of your aviation stories.
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Now I enter the AH forum and lo and behold, I have finally been driven to drink! Going to go get me a 6 pack of something, don't know what, anybody have a suggestion as to brand?
Coke Zero. Nobody should be driven to drink by an online forum. Cheers, Earl. :cheers:
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Samuel Adams with an orange slice is quite good.
I live right down the road from ya Earl. I'll meet you on battlefield parkway and we can split 12! :cheers:
I'd like to hear some of your aviation stories.
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:airplane: Man, send me a PM as to when and where, I'll be there for sure.
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:airplane: Man, send me a PM as to when and where, I'll be there for sure.
But I wanna hear aviation stories too! Please post transcript of upcoming said meeting with respect to aviation stories. There are lots of wannabe pilots here that wanna hear the real deal. :aok
I admit to being a wannabe pilot. :old:
:pray
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I have a friend flew 52's during the cold war...he was stationed on some Japanese island.....I forget. On his pto said he would just grab a A26 and buz into tokyo and get blasted..
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:cheers:
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Yes please! :rock
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hey earl1937 I remember this time in a Piper Arrow coming back to Illinois from Wisconsin. Had spent the day fixing a broken Cessna 150. There was a storm front from Canada to Mexico that had passed over us early in the day and it was getting late, we desperately wanted to get home. As we approached the front it appeared to be solid and we were discussing where to go to stay overnight. I said "hey there's a real low spot we could probably get through that". We decided to go for it. As we approached, the low spot seemed to get higher and higher, "are we gonna make it?" "sure we can make that". We didn't go through any clouds but......we hit turbulence that I felt for sure would rip those wings off. Silly me was in the back seat without my seat belt on. I remember being plastered to the ceiling for what seemed like an eternity and then falling upside down onto the seat. We got lucky that time but we also learned a valuable lesson.
It's just not worth it! :old:
:airplane: the ole "sucker hole" trick got u, sounds like! If your pilot had been paying attention when approaching a cold front from the rear, and you enter an area where the clouds are getting higher than the surrounding cloud base, you are usually entering an area of thermal activity and the clear air turbulence is usually pretty pronounced! When approaching a cold front, just remember, as the front approaches, it forces the warm air up and aloft and that is what forms the clouds, and of course condensation then produces the rain associate with the front. I tried as much as possible not to ever penetrate a cold front from either rear or front of the front, but sometimes, you had no choice, so I made a practice of looking for the soft, slightly grey looking area's because I found these to be the least turbulent for my passengers. Generally speaking if there are "stratus" type clouds around the area you are penetrating, that usually demonstrates smooth air with no upward moving thermals, which is what causes the turbulence. Best thing to do, unless you are in heavy equipment, say from a DC-3, C-46 or larger, DON'T ENTER THE FRONTAL ZONE! Land and continue your flight the next day.
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I have a friend flew 52's during the cold war...he was stationed on some Japanese island.....I forget. On his pto said he would just grab a A26 and buz into tokyo and get blasted..
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:cheers:
:airplane: At the end of the 25 and 26's careers, there were many stationed at various bases around the world, which administrative officers used to get their 4 hour per month flight time, in order to get their flight pay. Most were qualified to fly those two birds, but a lot were not and there is where aviation nuts like me came in. I got a lot of B-25 time, giving dual instruction and instrument refresher courses though out my reserve time. Then, because of costs, most were retired and replaced by C-45's and C-47's, even 2 C-119's that used to be at Dobbins AFB in Atlanta, but I was never qualified on the flying "Boxcar", but did get a couple of flights as a observer.
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hey Bat. He said beer :old:
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But I wanna hear aviation stories too! Please post transcript of upcoming said meeting with respect to aviation stories. There are lots of wannabe pilots here that wanna hear the real deal. :aok
I admit to being a wannabe pilot. :old:
:pray
:airplane: Well, here is one for you. When I first left active duty, I was looking around for jobs and a contract job, flying a DC-3 out of New Oleans to Nassau in the Bahama's, hauling sheet metal for roofing material. I had to land at Fort Lauderdale to clear customs, off into the night sky again to finish the trip. I took off on 09, with the intent of climbing to 7,000 feet and cruising on in and unload my freight. With thunderstorms around, and a copilot who had about 20 hours in the 3, we did have a AVQ-47 weather radar on board and so I was pretty busy. The first thing that happens when you leave the coast line at night, all references to the ground or water are gone, so you have to fly instruments, like it or not. On this night, there was a lot of "St. Elmo's" fire running all over the instrument panel, on your arms and control yoke and my copilot was about to have a coronary on the spot! I knew that sooner or later, we were going to have a "static discharge", some call a lighting strike, "bang" went the discharge, which blew the tail cone right off the old 3 and some of the discharge wicks had to be replaced later, but the causality was poor old Eugene, he lost it on the spot, puked, turned white, leaned back and passed out. A few more bumps and near strikes, finally got thru the weather, landed, poor Eugene got off the aircraft, said I'll see you later and that was the last time I ever saw him. Guess he caught a Chalk airlines flight back to Miamai. With no passengers or freight, I flew the thing solo back to New Oleans for the next load.
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:airplane: Man, send me a PM as to when and where, I'll be there for sure.
PM sent
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Coffee coffee cofffeeeee! :x It's what keeps me up until 4 AM in the morning playing Aces High! Don't tell the Mrs., she will cut me off... :uhoh
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:airplane: Well, here is one for you. When I first left active duty, I was looking around for jobs and a contract job, flying a DC-3 out of New Oleans to Nassau in the Bahama's, hauling sheet metal for roofing material. I had to land at Fort Lauderdale to clear customs, off into the night sky again to finish the trip. I took off on 09, with the intent of climbing to 7,000 feet and cruising on in and unload my freight. With thunderstorms around, and a copilot who had about 20 hours in the 3, we did have a AVQ-47 weather radar on board and so I was pretty busy. The first thing that happens when you leave the coast line at night, all references to the ground or water are gone, so you have to fly instruments, like it or not. On this night, there was a lot of "St. Elmo's" fire running all over the instrument panel, on your arms and control yoke and my copilot was about to have a coronary on the spot! I knew that sooner or later, we were going to have a "static discharge", some call a lighting strike, "bang" went the discharge, which blew the tail cone right off the old 3 and some of the discharge wicks had to be replaced later, but the causality was poor old Eugene, he lost it on the spot, puked, turned white, leaned back and passed out. A few more bumps and near strikes, finally got thru the weather, landed, poor Eugene got off the aircraft, said I'll see you later and that was the last time I ever saw him. Guess he caught a Chalk airlines flight back to Miamai. With no passengers or freight, I flew the thing solo back to New Oleans for the next load.
:rofl That's an awesome story. Thank you! :rock
I love all these stories like this. If you have others, please post. They are very cool and interesting. I can see Eugene now... probably decided to fly Aces High instead. :)
Wonder what happened to him?
You realize, that had you not posted this story, I and others would never have enjoyed reading it and almost being there with you... instead that event would have just disappeared from history... now it's here and maybe Eugene by some freak accident or anyone else might see it one day. :aok
Thanks again... and post more, please! :pray
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Coffee coffee cofffeeeee! :x It's what keeps me up until 4 AM in the morning playing Aces High! Don't tell the Mrs., she will cut me off... :uhoh
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From coffee? :D
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You may need FA, Forums Anonymous
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Alcohol is not good for you. :old:
shouldn't start now.
although I understand why the BBS is driving you to drink. :rofl
German proverb:
To live long, eat like a cat, drink like a dog
:P
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Coffee coffee cofffeeeee! :x It's what keeps me up until 4 AM in the morning playing Aces High! Don't tell the Mrs., she will cut me off... :uhoh
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Are you this bad, yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhdCslFcKFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhdCslFcKFU)
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German proverb:
To live long, eat like a cat, drink like a dog
:P
:rofl
I have that disease "instant sweethunk just add alcohol" so do many others...you just get funny as hell :aok
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:airplane: At the end of the 25 and 26's careers, there were many stationed at various bases around the world, officers used to get their 4 hour per month flight time, in order to get their flight pay. Most were qualified to fly those two birds, but a lot were not and there is where aviation nuts like me came in. I got a lot of B-25 time, giving dual instruction and instrument refresher courses though out my reserve time. Then, because of costs, most were retired and replaced by C-45's and C-47's, even 2 C-119's that used to be at Dobbins AFB in Atlanta, but I was never qualified on the flying "Boxcar", but did get a couple of flights as a observer.
He also flew in Nam .... I think he was going to relax after sam's and other things that were coming his way....
The last story I heard was nearing the end of his career in the USAF ....Linebacker II? and flying out of UTapao in the 11 day fight.
Could you please share some of these harrowing stories with us?
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Are you this bad, yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhdCslFcKFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhdCslFcKFU)
It's getting bad.....lol
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... and replaced by C-45's and C-47's, even 2 C-119's ...
My dear ol' dad (R.I.P.) jumped out of "Flying Boxcars" in Korea. Made two combat jumps in 'em. He didn't like 'em much.
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:rofl That's an awesome story. Thank you! :rock
I love all these stories like this. If you have others, please post. They are very cool and interesting. I can see Eugene now... probably decided to fly Aces High instead. :)
Wonder what happened to him?
You realize, that had you not posted this story, I and others would never have enjoyed reading it and almost being there with you... instead that event would have just disappeared from history... now it's here and maybe Eugene by some freak accident or anyone else might see it one day. :aok
Thanks again... and post more, please! :pray
Eugene caught a ride on a shrimp boat to S. Florida after contracting syphilis in the Bahamas.
He flew in AH for a while under the name ManOwar.... :)
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He also flew in Nam .... I think he was going to relax after sam's and other things that were coming his way....
The last story I heard was nearing the end of his career in the USAF ....Linebacker II? and flying out of UTapao in the 11 day fight.
Could you please share some of these harrowing stories with us?
:cheers:
:airplane: Did not fly in the Vietnam war sir.
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Eugene caught a ride on a shrimp boat to S. Florida after contracting syphilis in the Bahamas.
He flew in AH for a while under the name ManOwar.... :)
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If you've been a military fighter pilot......you drink and play crud..... :old:
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hey Bat. He said beer :old:
Good point Ded, my mistake.
let me suggest
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I get as much enjoyment out of a glass of iced tea as about any other beverage, unless it is coffee of a morning. An occasional beer is ok, and a "drink" here and there, but iced tea is great.
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I'd like to hear some of your aviation stories.
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Me too! Me too! :x
Unfortunately, I don't think Southern California is anywhere near you. So I'll just have to enjoy the stories here.
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my favorite beer; :cheers:
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Thanks for the stories Earl. I look forward to reading anything you post. If I lived near by I would buy you a beer to get you off on the right foot. Beer is good for you....Google it. Lol
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One beer is OK for you. Lots of beers . . . probably not. ;)
As a guy who didn't like beer for a long time, what I ended up liking first was:
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I get as much enjoyment out of a glass of iced tea as about any other beverage, unless it is coffee of a morning. An occasional beer is ok, and a "drink" here and there, but iced tea is great.
:airplane: :banana: :salute What a cool bunch of replies! Everything was looking really good until late yesterday afternoon. I have a neighbor who is about 35 or so, named Betty, prettiest woman you would ever want to be caught with in a closet! I had been having trouble with my bowels moving, so went to drugstore, bought me a "Fleet" enima, sounded like a Navy thing, so couldn't be bad. Went home, read directions and it set bend over and you know the rest of the instructions. I thought, man, if I don't get to the bathroom quick enough, I think I better do this out in the back yard! Me and ole "schooter" stepped out in the back yard, me clad only in a "T" shirt, bent over, ole schooter had cocked head and perked up ears and while I was prepareing to sink this thing in my "6", all bent over and I heard: Mr. T.(what Betty calls me), what in the world are you doing? I replied______________________ ____________________, and I will let you guys decide what I replied! LOL
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I heard that summer shandy is good!
I wouldn't know because I'm not 21 though... :old:
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I usually have a cup of Earl Gray for your long bombing missions. I join them because you do have your wits about you. <S> Flying as "Gray"
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What's the problem with doctors in pilot seats?
Asking as a doctor doing ppl. :)
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What's the problem with doctors in pilot seats?
Asking as a doctor doing ppl. :)
They crash a lot. Although each one only crashes once.
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What's the problem with doctors in pilot seats?
Asking as a doctor doing ppl. :)
Speaking as a flight instructor, the problem with doctors and lawyers in the pilot seats is: They believe they are smarter then everyone and know more about everything and refuse to listen and learn. They have far to much money, which allows them to purchase advanced aircraft that are far beyond their ability to fly. Just look back over the FAA aviation accident reports, See how many low time pilots flying advanced, high powered aircraft and have dented the earth have an MD or Esq after their name.
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:airplane: :banana: :salute What a cool bunch of replies! Everything was looking really good until late yesterday afternoon. I have a neighbor who is about 35 or so, named Betty, prettiest woman you would ever want to be caught with in a closet! I had been having trouble with my bowels moving, so went to drugstore, bought me a "Fleet" enima, sounded like a Navy thing, so couldn't be bad. Went home, read directions and it set bend over and you know the rest of the instructions. I thought, man, if I don't get to the bathroom quick enough, I think I better do this out in the back yard! Me and ole "schooter" stepped out in the back yard, me clad only in a "T" shirt, bent over, ole schooter had cocked head and perked up ears and while I was prepareing to sink this thing in my "6", all bent over and I heard: Mr. T.(what Betty calls me), what in the world are you doing? I replied______________________ ____________________, and I will let you guys decide what I replied! LOL
:rofl :old: :rofl
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Speaking as a flight instructor, the problem with doctors and lawyers in the pilot seats is: They believe they are smarter then everyone and know more about everything and refuse to listen and learn. They have far to much money, which allows them to purchase advanced aircraft that are far beyond their ability to fly. Just look back over the FAA aviation accident reports, See how many low time pilots flying advanced, high powered aircraft and have dented the earth have an MD or Esq after their name.
And add in that with those professions they many times have little free time and have difficulty remaining current and proficient which coupled with higher performance aircraft and egos equals bad things happening.
In fairness, not just doctors and lawyers. Anyone with an ego that extends beyond the limits of their capabilities is looking for trouble.
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An airplane will humble you. Not too terribly long ago I made a big mistake of trusting the (reported) weather. Clouds reported bottoms at 8800 and tops at 9500. I was in Bozeman and needed 11k to get over the hills IFR. Temp was a few above freezing at 10 so I figured I should be ok. Hit 9500 and wasn't out of the clouds (I filed 13) kept climbing and didn't think about the temperature dropping as I was still in the clouds. I hit 13 and was still in the clouds - Skywest not 10 miles said tops were 14, so I asked for 15. It was right around freezing now but I still wasn't picking up ice. All the sudden it started raining (freezing rain) and the airplane literally stopped climbing. I was right at 14 and it would not go any higher. (I was in a T182) I had radar, it didn't show anything and it caught me totally by suprise. I told ATC I needed to go down NOW - I was out of the mountains (ish) and landed at Billings to collect myself. It was 55ish on the ground and I still had ice on the plane.
After that I told my boss if it was within 10 degrees of freezing and flying in IMC neccesitated the flight, I wouldn't do it. I told him if he didn't like it he could get me a more capable airplane - we haven't had to cancel any trips yet but that was last spring. He's not gonna be happy with Winter around the corner when I stop flying.
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That's also what happens when a Texas boy who only knows what he read about ice in the books flies in Montana for work.
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:lol ferkin Hilarius MrT..
did you ask the nice lass to give you a hand?
certainly driven to drink now,
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Speaking as a flight instructor, the problem with doctors and lawyers in the pilot seats is: They believe they are smarter then everyone and know more about everything and refuse to listen and learn. They have far to much money, which allows them to purchase advanced aircraft that are far beyond their ability to fly. Just look back over the FAA aviation accident reports, See how many low time pilots flying advanced, high powered aircraft and have dented the earth have an MD or Esq after their name.
* looks at shiny spinner *
* swims away *
- oldman
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An airplane will humble you. Not too terribly long ago I made a big mistake of trusting the (reported) weather. Clouds reported bottoms at 8800 and tops at 9500. I was in Bozeman and needed 11k to get over the hills IFR. Temp was a few above freezing at 10 so I figured I should be ok. Hit 9500 and wasn't out of the clouds (I filed 13) kept climbing and didn't think about the temperature dropping as I was still in the clouds. I hit 13 and was still in the clouds - Skywest not 10 miles said tops were 14, so I asked for 15. It was right around freezing now but I still wasn't picking up ice. All the sudden it started raining (freezing rain) and the airplane literally stopped climbing. I was right at 14 and it would not go any higher. (I was in a T182) I had radar, it didn't show anything and it caught me totally by suprise. I told ATC I needed to go down NOW - I was out of the mountains (ish) and landed at Billings to collect myself. It was 55ish on the ground and I still had ice on the plane.
After that I told my boss if it was within 10 degrees of freezing and flying in IMC neccesitated the flight, I wouldn't do it. I told him if he didn't like it he could get me a more capable airplane - we haven't had to cancel any trips yet but that was last spring. He's not gonna be happy with Winter around the corner when I stop flying.
:airplane: Just remember when IFR, if you start picking up freezing rain, if you can at all, CLIMB, because the air above you is warmer or it wouldn't be raining, that will get rid of the ice. Sounds like you made the correct decision considering the bird had quite climbing.
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Speaking as a flight instructor, the problem with doctors and lawyers in the pilot seats is: They believe they are smarter then everyone and know more about everything and refuse to listen and learn. They have far to much money, which allows them to purchase advanced aircraft that are far beyond their ability to fly. Just look back over the FAA aviation accident reports, See how many low time pilots flying advanced, high powered aircraft and have dented the earth have an MD or Esq after their name.
Some would say that in this case a pilots license should be mandatory with every lawyers degree. :devil
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:airplane: :banana: :salute What a cool bunch of replies! Everything was looking really good until late yesterday afternoon. I have a neighbor who is about 35 or so, named Betty, prettiest woman you would ever want to be caught with in a closet! I had been having trouble with my bowels moving, so went to drugstore, bought me a "Fleet" enima, sounded like a Navy thing, so couldn't be bad. Went home, read directions and it set bend over and you know the rest of the instructions. I thought, man, if I don't get to the bathroom quick enough, I think I better do this out in the back yard! Me and ole "schooter" stepped out in the back yard, me clad only in a "T" shirt, bent over, ole schooter had cocked head and perked up ears and while I was prepareing to sink this thing in my "6", all bent over and I heard: Mr. T.(what Betty calls me), what in the world are you doing? I replied______________________ ____________________, and I will let you guys decide what I replied! LOL
:uhoh
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Some would say that in this case a pilots license should be mandatory with every lawyers degree. :devil
:rofl :aok
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Alcohol is not good for you. :old:
shouldn't start now.
although I understand why the BBS is driving you to drink. :rofl
^ what ink said.
I loves me my beer, but it was never any good for me, gets worse for me as time goes by.
(Potentially less expensive than gorgeous 35-year-old neighbours though.)
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Some would say that in this case a pilots license should be mandatory with every lawyers degree. :devil
bwwahahaha
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* looks at shiny spinner *
* swims away *
- oldman
You are a better man than I.
:devil
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Speaking as a flight instructor, the problem with doctors and lawyers in the pilot seats is: They believe they are smarter then everyone and know more about everything and refuse to listen and learn. They have far to much money, which allows them to purchase advanced aircraft that are far beyond their ability to fly. Just look back over the FAA aviation accident reports, See how many low time pilots flying advanced, high powered aircraft and have dented the earth have an MD or Esq after their name.
This isn't a problem in the UK where doctors are not very smart. We know this true because our government tells us when it's looking for a scapegoat for the problems in the NHS.
Also we earn a fraction of the income US doctors enjoy. I know a lot of doctors and none of them own "advanced, high powered aircraft". If and when I get my ppl I'd be more than happy with an old PA 28 or 172, fairly decent ones can be bought for the price of a modest family car.
As for all doctors refusing to listen and learn, they'd never get through med school if that was true. Bit of a generalisation I reckon.
I agree with everything you said about lawyers though. ;)
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Oh no, it does travel somewhat. Take out the aircraft part and add that these days a lot of NHS doctors are brought in and trained poorly over seas.
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Peyote tea. Find your spirit guide.
Yes or at least have a a beer and listen to Pink Floyd. Let's not go all crazy all at once.
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A good solid German pils will do the trick. Get your hands on some Bittburger, Spaten Pils, Franziskaner. Any of those will do you well.
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This isn't a problem in the UK where doctors are not very smart. We know this true because our government tells us when it's looking for a scapegoat for the problems in the NHS.
Also we earn a fraction of the income US doctors enjoy. I know a lot of doctors and none of them own "advanced, high powered aircraft". If and when I get my ppl I'd be more than happy with an old PA 28 or 172, fairly decent ones can be bought for the price of a modest family car.
As for all doctors refusing to listen and learn, they'd never get through med school if that was true. Bit of a generalisation I reckon.
I agree with everything you said about lawyers though. ;)
:airplane: If you purchased a PA-28 or Cessna 172 for the price of a modest American car, I doubt is you could get a "ferry" permit to fly to your local airport.
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:bhead After a little over 22,000 hours of flight time, all over this world, I have never had but one sip of beer, (ugh), because I have never wanted anything to inhibit my mind. I came into this forum with idea's of grandeur of maybe helping someone, who like myself when I started in aviation, has a mind who is starved for aviation info, stories of flight, pictures of different aircraft and the never ending lust for seeing what is just over the horizon.
The last 3 years has certainly widened my view of aircraft, pilots and stories of feat's beyond my scope of understanding and reasoning as to why or how and what makes people do and say the things that they do!
I do not, contrary to some people's view, use Wiki much, except to copy something I see which I know is factual, because there are many other sources of information on the net which IS reliable and factual. What is happening now on Wiki is a good example of why it is not reliable, in my view, because the "feminazi's" are posting things on that site, urged on by collage professors giving them course credits, and gosh knows what else they are going to post.
Getting back to my post, I have endured the two most feared things in aviation, Fire and Ice, and have come away wiser and a better pilot for dealing with those. Tornado's, hurricanes, wind shear, clear air turbulence and low ceilings are no big thing, if you are well trained and have the mental discipline to apply the methods prescribed to deal with them. Sometimes one has to improvise, using his best judgement, but that is part of flying.
Someone asked me one time what I thought was the two most dangerous things in world was and my immediate answer was: "doctors in pilot seats and 100 lb women driving 18 wheel trucks on the interstate"!
Now I enter the AH forum and lo and behold, I have finally been driven to drink! Going to go get me a 6 pack of something, don't know what, anybody have a suggestion as to brand?
If thats what it takes to drive you to drink then you have obviously never been the father of a teenage girl.
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my favorite beer; :cheers:
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Blue is good...but Kokanee is better... :D
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Blue is good...but Kokanee is better... :D
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Glacier Beer? Does it come in Wooly Mammoth flavor?
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The Most Interesting man....
On the Bench
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The Most Interesting man....
On the Bench
So it would seem...
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This picture was tampered with!
It clearly shows him with wine... :D
Glacier Beer? Does it come in Wooly Mammoth flavor?
Not mammoth flavor...sasquactch.. :confused:
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If thats what it takes to drive you to drink then you have obviously never been the father of a teenage girl.
:banana: I have 2 daughters, but must admit, wife raised both pretty much without my help! She did a great job, I was gone so much, pushing throttles! Feel a little guility now, looking back on things, but can't change family history! I have 7 grand children and 4 great grand children!!!!! :salute
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I have 7 grand children and 4 great grand children!!!!! :salute
Excellent! <S>
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Mountain Dew :aok
I drink several a day.
P.S. Dreidock is SO correct. Proud Dad of 3 girls - Adults now, thank God :)
:cheers: Oz
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Mountain Dew :aok
I drink several a day.
:cheers: Oz
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I tried mountain dew when I first saw it on the shelf over here and that stuff is god awful!!!
barf smiley
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Weirdest Drinks in the World
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Kierewiet, marijuana liqueur
Don't panic! It is just a “digestive” that people recommend after a tasty and
healthy dinner. As everyone expected, this marijuana liqueur comes from Holland
and ca be found in restaurants in Amsterdam. This digestive thing is rather strange
especially when seeing the beautiful marijuana leaf on the label. Kierewiet contains
14,5% alcohol and it has a strong green color.
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Tofurky, tofu meat beverage
I don't know who would ever dare drinking a beverage named Tofurky. Specially
created for vegans, the Tofurky and Gravy soda is sugar-free and gives the
impression of drinking your Thanksgiving meal. The turkey-tofu combination found
in a bottle is not the traditional holiday dinner we are used to.
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Mother's milk
It has already been proved that Japanese people can be quite inventive. When
it comes to beverages, they make no exception. Everyone knows that milk is good
for healthy bones. However, it is rather hard to imagine our morning breakfast with
a bowl of cinnamon cereals and warm breast milk
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Collagen coffee
Women around the world forget all those painful plastic surgeries or expensive
anti-aging creams. Now, you have the easiest solution ever with the Nescafe
3in1 collagen coffee. It is true that true beauty comes from the inside, therefore
the anti-aging drink contains skimmed milk and 200 mg collagen. The collagen
instant coffee can be found only in Singapore and Malaysia.
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Meat water
Made by a North American Company, MeatWater is another of those special
inventions that can easily enter into a top of world's weirdest drinks. It is
true that the hectic schedules we have sometimes impede us to have a nice,
quite lunch. However, lunch in a bottle is not the healthiest choice one can
make. It seems that the most famous flavor is the Cheeseburger one, followed
by Chicken Teriyaki and the Dirty Hot Dog. Therefore, when you want to skip
a meal, go for a Cheeseburger in a bottle.
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TruBlood
This next drink is specially made for all lazy vampires who can now go to the
store and ask for a bottle of blood. You have four flavors available: A, B, 0
and AB. In fact, the producing company says that this is synthetic blood
that boasts real nutritional values, vitamins and proteins included.
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Coolpis
When it's really hot outside, refresh yourself with a glass of sweet Coolpis.
And when I say sweet, I mean a normal peach flavor and Kimchee flavor, as
Coolpis is only a Japanese copy of a Korean soft drink called Calpis. However,
we don't know if it is appropriate and polite to ask your guests if they want
some Coolpis. Maybe a glass of Calpis yes
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Liquid Smoking
Smoking Kills! Maybe this next drink has a more positive effect on our body.
The herbal drink called “Liquid Smoking”, made from a mix of roots from South
African plants, promises to give the same sensation as the one obtained from
cigarettes. It seems that this nicotine-free drink provides a certain “euphoric
calming feeling”. But does it cause addiction?
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Anti-energy drink
Acupuncture sessions in a can. Slow cow is the perfect choice for hyperactive
persons helping them to calm down by improving relaxation. Slow Cow contains
theanine, chamomile, valerian, passiflora and other ingredients that are famous
for their calming effects
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Fever, libido-boosting drink
As we have said it before, people started making beverages for different problems
that we have to face everyday. “Fever” is the liquid version of Viagra claiming to
offer pleasurable sense of euphoria while stimulating the body’s senses.” This is a
stimulation drink that comes in different mixed flavors, such as kiwi/strawberry,
mango/banana/coconut.
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Mountain Dew :aok
I drink several a day.
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If it's beer you're after, then all this big name commercial stuff is not even technically beer. It's all got corn and rice and silly things like that in it. It's yellow and fizzy and sweet.
Look around for something fresh and local, something brewed in units other than hexa-deca-mega-litres. Beer is FOOD. ENJOY!
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get this down your neck...
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I tried mountain dew when I first saw it on the shelf over here and that stuff is god awful!!!
barf smiley
Not surprising that it wouldn't fit an Englishman's taste.
Considering some of that nasty ale & tea you guys are stuck with :aok
3rd main ingredient in Dew is Orange juice. You guys don't drink that?
:cheers: Oz
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:airplane: If you purchased a PA-28 or Cessna 172 for the price of a modest American car, I doubt is you could get a "ferry" permit to fly to your local airport.
You can find a decent 172 for around 25, or a really nice one for 45-50. Mine was a special little airplane.
It's also possible mine holds the record for "highest ever normal category skyhawk!" As it has been up to 19k with me before.
I sure do miss her.
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beer is good :aok plus some mixed rinks :aok :aok :devil :devil :devil
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Here's what I drink:
This is my preference but since I moved across town none of the local liquor stores carry it. Before I moved I could buy a 30 pack for $19.75.
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Since I moved I had to switch back to this but now I can get a 30 pack for under $19.00. It tastes kind of like Heinekin.
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I like the old cans better:
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I really missed this stuff when I lived in NY despite the fact it's cheap. You just couldn't get it there.
If I have a few dollars to spare my actual favorites are (in order) Corona Light and Guiness.
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Just can't improve on nature's Mother's Milk dispenser IMHO
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For once, I am forced to agree with Bear on something.
Now If they only they dispensed beer.... :lol
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For once, I am forced to agree with Bear on something.
Now If they only they dispensed beer.... :lol
Give her some vodka to drink, and soon you'll have White Russians.
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Blue is good...but Kokanee is better... :D
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I tried it today, first time; got a box and tasted both same time; you are right Kokanee is better :aok; Labatt seems more bitter;
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I tried it today, first time; got a box and tasted both same time; you are right Kokanee is better :aok; Labatt seems more bitter;
:aok
(...women know everything... :D)
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:aok
(...women know everything... :D)
Yes they do.
<--- * is well trained *
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if you want to drink to get really hammerwed real fast due to tards like Midway and INK then drrink a real mans drink of Cherry flavored Moonshine. It will "F" you up so quick your sisiter will look good to you again. It works quicker than a mexican on speed...LOL
LawndRT
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if you want to drink to get really hammerwed real fast due to tards like Midway and INK then drrink a real mans drink of Cherry flavored Moonshine. It will "F" you up so quick your sisiter will look good to you again. It works quicker than a mexican on speed...LOL
LawndRT
"midway and INK".....really....how the hell am I anything like midway, please explain that to me.
there is not a greater insult to be had in AH then that....I take great offense to it.
when have I ever acted like that friggen tard....
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if you want to drink to get really hammerwed real fast due to tards like Midway and INK then drrink a real mans drink of Cherry flavored Moonshine. It will "F" you up so quick your sisiter will look good to you again. It works quicker than a mexican on speed...LOL
LawndRT
Racism and incest all in one post...how efficient