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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ridley1 on September 22, 2013, 07:12:31 PM
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I think it's time to redo Battle of the bulge. It was on the boob tube a while ago and I just couldn't watch it. The baterred bashers of bastogne? C'mon!
Valkyrie was somwhat acceptable....except for having Tom Cruise as the title character. Jerry Lewis would have been more beleivable
Actually came across "paths to glory" Kirk douglas film directed by kubrick.
Anywho....I'm wandering....like this thread will (I hope)
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Off the top of my head I really can't think of one single movie that's been redone better than the original. How can you possibly top Cary Grant in Run Silent Run Deep? They just don't make actors like that anymore.
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Tom Cruise and von Stauffenberg actually look similar. I thought Cruise was good in that role.
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Off the top of my head I really can't think of one single movie that's been redone better than the original.
Remakes that were better than the original IMHO:
The Thing
Ocean’s Eleven
True Grit
Scarface
3:10 to Yuma
The Departed
True Lies
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Gone in 60 Seconds
Death Race
Man on Fire
The Italian Job
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Don't forget lord of the g-strings :old:
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Full Metal Jacket & The Phantom Blooper should be remade to be completely faithful to the books! :rock :x
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Full Metal Jacket & The Phantom Blooper should be remade to be completely faithful to the books! :rock :x
Fmj? What cast could possibly be just as awesome
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Zulu (tho' I cringe at what the PC crowd would do it it)
The Battle of Britian
Alexander the Great (oh wait...they did that one already....cripes it sucked...)
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Oh...two more:
Sink the Bismarck
The Blue Max
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Oh...two more:
Sink the Bismarck
The Blue Max
Dare I say it a bridge to far.
Tho Im just going to say its almost to awesome to redo
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Remakes that were better than the original IMHO:
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Blasphemy!!
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Midway. The movie, I mean.
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Sink the Bismarck
Absolutely!
With modern CGI all the old war films could be remade a lot better. CGI has perhaps a bad name, but that's only because Hollyweird insists on overdoing it... and putting Ben Affleck in it.
This clip is from a small Russian movie about the ill-fated PQ-17 convoy. It has a laughable budget. Imagine what can be done with real money...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYudn36kYpg
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Fmj? What cast could possibly be just as awesome
Redbull as Cpl. Joker
DrBone as Cowboy
ink as Animal Mother
ACE aka DrSpek as Pvt Pyle
Debrody as Senior Dril Instructor Hartmann
zack1234 as Crazy Earl
Madhogg as Mr Payback
Bruv119 as Captain Shortround
Zacherof as T.H.E Rock
i just need a few million to get started and then i will cast the rest of the roles :x
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Japanese movie about the battleship Yamato. Very over-acted, but the CGI shows what can be done on even a modest budget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QWqDTCk2A
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Remakes that were better than the original IMHO:
Ocean’s Eleven
Its a outrage!!!!!
Dare I say it a bridge to far.
Dont you dare.........
The Blue Max
Your kidding me rite??? Wait good idea we could get Brad Pitt to play Stachel and Angelina to play the countess.......:furious
:D
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Japanese movie about the battleship Yamato. Very over-acted, but the CGI shows what can be done on even a modest budget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QWqDTCk2A
I have that movie. Its good but as you said the acting is a bit over the top!
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Redbull as Cpl. Joker
DrBone as Cowboy
ink as Animal Mother
ACE aka DrSpek as Pvt Pyle
Debrody as Senior Dril Instructor Hartmann
zack1234 as Crazy Earl
Madhogg as Mr Payback
Bruv119 as Captain Shortround
Zacherof as T.H.E Rock
i just need a few million to get started and then i will cast the rest of the roles :x
:rofl
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I think it's time to redo Battle of the bulge. It was on the boob tube a while ago and I just couldn't watch it. The baterred bashers of bastogne? C'mon!
Valkyrie was somwhat acceptable....except for having Tom Cruise as the title character. Jerry Lewis would have been more beleivable
Actually came across "paths to glory" Kirk douglas film directed by kubrick.
Anywho....I'm wandering....like this thread will (I hope)
Valkyrie was "acceptable"?
Your views in regards to films is summed up it that statement :old:
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2 that should be remade because the script is so good but could never be better than the original are "They Were Expendable" and "Decision Before Dawn".
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Remake the old GOOD Movies??? No way..
Aren't there plenty of Topics yet to cover???
Or is there such a dearth of insight and knowledge???
Ya just know that it would be full of lousy acting
by people who don't fit the parts, and plastic goofy
looking, and out of scale CG..
Like THE BOMB.. In pearl Harbor, the bomb that went
thru the Arizona Decks and the little fuse fan was on
a motor turnin round and round.. (just an example)
LOL, even had a little motor sound..
I guess it was supposed to be some kind of clockwork fuse
or something from some hollywood boobs imagination..
Instead of a little fan that winds the striker into position
after the bomb leaves the plane.. :bhead
I guess they have to give us something to look at, other
than look at the Ninnies they hold up as Actors.. :confused:
Edit: they should make their own crappy movies, and
leave the classics alone!
Remember, there ain't ever gonna be another John Wayne,
Robert Mitchum, Glen Ford, Rock Hudson, Clark Gable,
James Cagney, Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, on and on,
EVER..
Or Audie Murphy, talk about the real deal..
So quit tryin to BE them, and make your OWN PLACE in film..
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Some War Movie Topics worthy of a Major production..
An Epic of the Chosin reservoir battle would be excellent.. Talk about Material for a movie!
An awesome story of desperate fighting and survival against Herculean odds..
And hasn't been done yet..
Fox Hill overlooking Taktong pass, One company of Marines in the most impossible victory..
One of the most Epic military actions of History! Cut off for days, being assaulted by brigade
after brigade of Chinese infantry trying to close the Pass.. Holding the door open for the
whole 1st Marine Division + 1/2 of an Army Division.. ONE COMPANY!
Task Force Faith, wiped out on the North side of the Reservoir, Road cut behind them..
Trapped between the cliffs, and the frozen lake, Massive numbers of Chinese on the hills
above them, overrun by Human waves.. Every man for himself, as the survivors staggered
out into the Darkness, onto the Frozen lake, dragging their wounded friends with them..
Task Force Drysdale, mixed unit of US and Royal Marines.. almost wiped out trying to
move up the Road from Koto ri to relieve Hagaru..
The Hand to Hand Fighting on the Ice covered ridges all around the Yudam ni valley..
All of these would make a Movie on their own..
But I suppose Hollywood's Chinese owners might not like that topic, lol..
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Japanese movie about the battleship Yamato. Very over-acted, but the CGI shows what can be done on even a modest budget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QWqDTCk2A
Foreign films can often looked over acted in translation but not so in their native languages and cultural norms. Yamato has some of the most vicious scenes Ive ever seen in a film of what strafing by heavy war plane MGs can do. Those American 0.50s just chewed them up, made worse by the USN method of attacking one side of a ship in order to destroy the AA on that side first for the torpedo planes. They used to have these scenes on you tube but were made to take them down. This film is worth paying the DVD price for.
I didnt really find it "over acted". The discipline in the IJN was pretty fanatical. Here I found a link to the final battle scene, tho the quality is kinda crap. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaa81o_must-see-battle-scene-otoko-tachi-n_tech Go to about 3;45 mins if you want to see the worst of it.
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I have Otoko-tachi no Yamato and I wasn't thinking of the battle scenes specifically. The Japanese have a theatrical culture when it comes to movie making, and every emotion is exaggerated and overacted. This was also a problem during the filming of Tora Tora Tora, where they had to change the Japanese director who refused to tone it down, and still there is a lot of overacting in the Japanese scenes.
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What about a new Apocalypse Now spoof, but with Charlie Sheen as the main character? :aok
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What about a new Apocalypse Now spoof, but with Charlie Sheen as the main character? :aok
and leslie nielsen as col. kurtz... :rofl that would be hilarious!!! :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
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and leslie nielsen as col. kurtz... :rofl that would be hilarious!!! :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
It would also be very spooky!
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It would also be very spooky!
At least it would bring deeper meaning to the 'rosebud' i.e. being plant food.
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Movies that would be worth watching or remade
1 They need to make one about the wolverine: why he was captured and what was he doing in Japan. Make for a awesome movie.
2 A good Kids movie would be based on the book Treasures in the Snow
3 Flag of Our Fathers should be redone
4 Movie based on the book: The Forgotten Soldier
5 Another great movie would be based on the Escapes From Colditz
Use as POW camp[edit source | editbeta]
Colditz Bridge in 1945 after the town had been occupied by the US Army
Main article: Oflag IV-C
After the outbreak of World War II the castle was converted into a high security prisoner-of-war camp for officers who had become security or escape risks or who were regarded as particularly dangerous. Since the castle is situated on a rocky outcrop above the River Mulde, the Germans believed it to be an ideal site for a high security prison.
The larger outer court known as the Kommandantur, had only two exits and housed a large German garrison. The prisoners lived in an adjacent courtyard in a 90 ft (27 m) tall building. Outside, the flat terraces which surrounded the prisoners' accommodation were constantly watched by armed sentries and surrounded by barbed wire. Although known as Colditz Castle to the locals, its official German designation was Oflag IV-C and it was under Wehrmacht control.[2]
Although it was considered a high security prison, it boasted one of the highest records of successful escape attempts. This could be owing to the general nature of the prisoners that were sent there; most of them had attempted escape previously from other prisons and were transferred to Colditz because the Germans had thought the castle escape-proof. One lavish scheme even included a glider that was kept in a remote portion of the castle's attic, although it was never used because Germany surrendered to the Allies before the scheduled date of the planned escape.
Captain Patrick R. Reid, who successfully escaped from Colditz in 1942, wrote two detailed books about the living conditions and various escape attempts at Colditz from 1940 to 1945: The Colditz Story and The Latter Days at Colditz. In the early 1970s, these were made into a BBC television series starring David McCallum, Edward Hardwicke and Robert Wagner.
In April 1945, US troops entered Colditz town and, after a two-day fight, captured the castle on 16 April. In May 1945, the Soviet occupation of Colditz began. Following the Yalta Conference it became a part of East Germany. The Soviets turned Colditz Castle into a prison camp for local burglars and non-communists. Later, the castle was a home for the aged and nursing home, as well as a hospital and psychiatric clinic. For many years after the war, forgotten hiding places and tunnels were found by repairmen, including a radio room set up by the British POWs, which was then "lost" again only to be re-discovered some ten years later.
Famous Occupants
Douglas Bader
Desmond Llewelyn
Airey Neave
Charles Upham
6 Movie on Chuck Yeagers Life
7 Flying Tigers
8 Erich Hartman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann Would make a great Movie.. :cheers: :rock :rock
9 Heinrich Bar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_B%C3%A4r
10 Gunther Rall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Rall
These would all make Great movies :x
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and leslie nielsen as col. kurtz... :rofl that would be hilarious!!! :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
T'would be difficult. He's been dead since 2010.
EDIT: Ahhh....nevermind...someone else pointed this out as well. ;)
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Movies that would be worth watching or remade
1 They need to make one about the wolverine: why he was captured and what was he doing in Japan. Make for a awesome movie.
These would all make Great movies :x
Ugh. The last one was bad enough....and Jackman is getting a little long in the tooth to pull the role off.
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It would also be very spooky!
T'would be difficult. He's been dead since 2010.
EDIT: Ahhh....nevermind...someone else pointed this out as well. ;)
dammit, i never pay attention to the obits...
what about will ferrell as col. kurtz? not that i like will ferrell but...
wait, what about howie mandel in the role? or damon wayans... :lol
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I thought there was already a Midway remake in the works? And anyone heard anything more about Peter Jackson's Dambusters remake? Last thing Wikipedia said was that Jackson put it on hold due to the Hobbit.
Anyway, a biopic on Boyington based on Bruce Gamble's Black Sheep One could be pretty cool.
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dammit, i never pay attention to the obits...
what about will ferrell as col. kurtz? not that i like will ferrell but...
wait, what about howie mandel in the role? or damon wayans... :lol
Robin Williams :rock
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dammit, i never pay attention to the obits...
:lol No worries.
I've reached the age where I just automatically Google a celebrity if I haven't seen anything from them in a while. At the present time I'd say I get death confirmations for 30-40% of the ones I look up. :frown:
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A good war movie doesn't need a 'remake.' A bad one doesn't deserve one.
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Apparently there is a new film that just started shooting in England about end of the war 2nd Armored Division Shermans called "Fury"
Saw this on another forum. They've pulled together 10 Shermans for the filming. appears to be a big budget film
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/brad-pitt-shia-labeouf-fury-first-set-photos-03_zpsd5d38d51.jpg)
The star getting a test drive
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Helmets/bradintank_zpsc196e82d.jpg)
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Brad Pitt? Erm.
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A good war movie doesn't need a 'remake.' A bad one doesn't deserve one.
odd, i haven't seen one yet that couldn't be much better if it were done right...then again, we're talking hollyweird where reality takes a backseat to money.
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odd, i haven't seen one yet that couldn't be much better if it were done right...then again, we're talking hollyweird where reality takes a backseat to money.
Critical eyes and differences of opinion. :D
Saving Private Ryan
Stalag 17
Full Metal Jacket
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Great Escape
Paths of Glory
Lawrence of Arabia
Apocalypse Now
The Dirty Dozen
We Were Soldiers
Band of Brothers
Hamburger Hill
Glory
The Longest Day
Twelve O'Clock High
Hell in the Pacific
Sands of Iwo Jima
Patton
The Big Red One
They Were Expendable
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Midway
A Bridge Too Far
The Green Berets
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In no particular order. No, remakes, just the originals, please. :D
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Critical eyes and differences of opinion. :D
Saving Private Ryan
Stalag 17
Full Metal Jacket
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Great Escape
Paths of Glory
Lawrence of Arabia
Apocalypse Now
The Dirty Dozen
We Were Soldiers
Band of Brothers
Hamburger Hill
Glory
The Longest Day
Twelve O'Clock High
Hell in the Pacific
Sands of Iwo Jima
Patton
The Big Red One
They Were Expendable
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Midway
A Bridge Too Far
The Green Berets
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In no particular order. No, remakes, just the originals, please. :D
All great movies and i don't think they could be improved with a remake. I know I've seen them at least 10 times each.
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The great thing about remakes is that you can still see the original if the remake sux.
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The great thing about remakes is that you can still see the original if the remake sux.
I can still see the original anyways. I encourage Hollywood to make more original originals. :D
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Indeed ;)
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A remake of A Bridge Too Far? Zachy, no no no . . . ;) We should have watched that together when you visited.
That movie had a cast that is unsurpassed in the history of film and the like of which is unlikely to be assembled again (Sean Connery, Gene Hackman, Ryan O'Neal, Michael Kane, Anthony Hopkins, James Caan, Maximilian Schell, Liv Ullman, Elliot Gould, Edward Fox, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Robert Redford).
It also had real parachute jumps, in Holland, of 200 men, using real WWII kit. It is impossible to get more realistic than that.
The consultants for the film included Colonel John Waddy, Major General John Dutton Frost, General James M. Gavin, Lieutenant General Brian Horrocks, Major General Roy Urquhart, and Brigadier Joe Vandeleur -- guys who played a major part personally in Operation Market Garden.
On all three accounts, such a feat is not possible again in the world.
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Reach For The Sky
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I have Otoko-tachi no Yamato
Anyone know where can I get a DVD (or with luck a Blu-Ray)? I've looked around on the Web in the past and couldn't find it. Does it have English subtitles?
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A remake of A Bridge Too Far? Zachy, no no no . . . ;) We should have watched that together when you visited.
That movie had a cast that is unsurpassed in the history of film and the like of which is unlikely to be assembled again (Sean Connery, Gene Hackman, Ryan O'Neal, Michael Kane, Anthony Hopkins, James Caan, Maximilian Schell, Liv Ullman, Elliot Gould, Edward Fox, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Robert Redford).
It also had real parachute jumps, in Holland, of 200 men, using real WWII kit. It is impossible to get more realistic than that.
The consultants for the film included Colonel John Waddy, Major General John Dutton Frost, General James M. Gavin, Lieutenant General Brian Horrocks, Major General Roy Urquhart, and Brigadier Joe Vandeleur -- guys who played a major part personally in Operation Market Garden.
On all three accounts, such a feat is not possible again in the world.
Keep that film environmentally protected under armed guard.
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Coming soon is a Miyazaki film on the designer of the Zero. I'm greatly looking forward to it.
Also, from Miyazaki with WWII themes is "Grave of the Fireflies". One of the saddest films you will ever watch, but awesomely done.
And for aviation theme (not WWII), "Porco Rosso" -- whacky, but awesome.
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Good to hear that originals involving WWII are still being made.
How about war films we would like to see made?
"The Jolly Rogers!" (Exploits of VF-17)
Scene one
The Atlantic off of Morocco.
A pilot is adrift in his one-man raft. His mind is adrift, as well.
Backflash moments: Annapolis, flight training, bad weather in the F4F, Santee not responding, the ditch.
The scene gives way back to the present. A motor launch is there, sailors are pulling him into the boat. A destroyer is not far off.
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What I'd like to see made -- just about anything about WWII aerial or naval combat (surface or submarine).
For ground combat, I'd love to see German, Japanese, and Soviet "Band of Brothers"-type series or films.
By the way, Arlo, you left "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" out of your excellent list.
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What I'd like to see made -- just about anything about WWII aerial or naval combat (surface or submarine).
For ground combat, I'd love to see German, Japanese, and Soviet "Band of Brothers"-type series or films.
By the way, Arlo, you left "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" out of your excellent list.
I left a lot out.
I saw 'Patton' at the Corpus Christi NAS base theater at the age of 8 (base movies always started with the
National Anthem on screen). It was big screen nirvana. :D
(http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews51/patton_blu-ray/large/large_patton_blu-ray101_patton_bluray.jpg)
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What I'd like to see made -- just about anything about WWII aerial or naval combat (surface or submarine).
For ground combat, I'd love to see German, Japanese, and Soviet "Band of Brothers"-type series or films.
By the way, Arlo, you left "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" out of your excellent list.
Have you seen "The Soviet Story"?
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Have you seen "The Soviet Story"?
No, but I love getting recommendations here on the AH board. I'll check into it. Thanks!
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Flight of the Intruder needs a remake that is faithful to the novel.
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Flight of the Intruder needs a remake that is faithful to the novel.
Good point. It wasn't great, but had some parts that weren't bad. There's one that would stand a chance of being better in a remake.
Things like remaking Full Metal Jacket, though . . . what are people thinking?! :uhoh
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"Why is Private Pyle out of his bunk after lights-out?"
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Debbie does Dallas.
semp
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Debbie Does Danzig?
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Debbie Does Danzig?
The guy or the city? :devil
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Flight of the Intruder needs a remake that is faithful to the novel.
Yes. +1.
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The guy or the city? :devil
Good point, I guess we'd now have to do Gerda Does Gdansk.
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Good to hear that originals involving WWII are still being made.
How about war films we would like to see made?
"The Jolly Rogers!" (Exploits of VF-17)
Scene one
The Atlantic off of Morocco.
A pilot is adrift in his one-man raft. His mind is adrift, as well.
Backflash moments: Annapolis, flight training, bad weather in the F4F, Santee not responding, the ditch.
The scene gives way back to the present. A motor launch is there, sailors are pulling him into the boat. A destroyer is not far off.
Arlo, I would love to see an accurate account of VF-17's exploits made into a movie. I just do not have any faith that Hollywood could do it. Just look at what they did to "Red Tails".
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Arlo, I would love to see an accurate account of VF-17's exploits made into a movie. I just do not have any faith that Hollywood could do it. Just look at what they did to "Red Tails".
That's a risk, that's for sure. Guess it depends on the screenplay.
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Zulu (tho' I cringe at what the PC crowd would do it it)
I agree. I'd love to see Zulu and Zulu Dawn both remade. I certainly understand your concern on the Hollywierd PC thing, but Blackhawk Down was done fair enough so I'd hope the two Zulu movies could be done in the same spirit. Besides, the Zulu Dawn movie has plenty of PC BS already in it. It couldn't get too much worse???
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It couldn't get too much worse???
Famous last words right there.
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The Battle Of Britain would be good with all the CGI. But there aren't enough decent actors to pull it off without some serious cast searches. Plus its market would be too small to be commercially viable so no one would touch it.
If one war movie could be remade I think I would re-do The Longest Day. And tie it in with Band of Brothers. Simply because you can tie Saving Private Ryan and Band Of Brothers together, make it completely historically accurate, and pull a "Valkyrie" with look-alike stars. And because It is linked to SPR and BOB it would be a huge commercial success. (I know SPR didn't happen but the Pointe Du Hoc scene with the Rangers would be great for a Tom Hanks "reprise"). For example, the 82nd Paratrooper who gets lost, the 101st guys he runs into could be a cameo for the BoB team.
I know it sounds a bit cheesy on paper, but I think it would be awesome.
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Off the top of my head I really can't think of one single movie that's been redone better than the original. How can you possibly top Cary Grant in Run Silent Run Deep? They just don't make actors like that anymore.
Huh. The Run Silent Run Deep I remember had Clark Gable, Burt Lancaster and Don Rickles. Maybe the one you are talking about was redone??? :D
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Cary Grant in a Pink Sub with Tony Curtis and a bunch of hot navy Nurses???
Operation Petticoat! :aok
Cary Grant and Leslie Caron, on an island with a bunch children hiding from the Japanese..
Father Goose! :aok
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Destination Tokyo is Cary Grant's 1943 submarine movie with John Garfield, Alan Hale and John Ridgely.
http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/411208/Destination-Tokyo-Movie-Clip-Doll-On-A-Submarine.html
Methinks Uptown was making a funny.
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For some reason, I sometimes get Cary Grant and Clark Gable mixed up too..
Odd, the only thing similar between them is their initials, CG..
Silly but true :headscratch:
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I agree. I'd love to see Zulu and Zulu Dawn both remade. I certainly understand your concern on the Hollywierd PC thing, but Blackhawk Down was done fair enough so I'd hope the two Zulu movies could be done in the same spirit. Besides, the Zulu Dawn movie has plenty of PC BS already in it. It couldn't get too much worse???
Never, EVAH, underestimate the anti-capitalist / anti-colonial outlook of the movies makers over in the Peoples Republic of California. Was colonialism great? No. But do we have to make every movie a statement on how bad the West is and the world would be a better place if we all just fell into the sea? No.
Rant over. Sorry. ;)
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Why nobody writes down
"Perl Harbor"
It is one of the most horrible Hollywood war crimes...
WTF: both are the heroes of Perl Harbor & fly in the Doolittle raid & one of them is one of the few US volunteers in RAF & and accidentally in love with the same nurse - that also based on a real character :bolt:
How many super heroes Hollywood needs... Seriously :furious
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Ideas for war movies I would love to see:
1.) The Battle for Coronel - This battle is so unknown in the US I doubt it would ever get made. The heroism and tragedy of the Royal Navy squadron fighting the crack Imperial German East Asia squadron far from home. The noble but fatalistic Vice Admiral von Spee. The professional and charismatic Rear Admiral Cradock. The idiocy of the orders given to Cradock by the Admiralty (under a young but inexperienced Wiston Churchill). Cradock's determination to carry out those orders knowing they were a death sentence. It's got epic all over it.
2.) The Battle of the Falkland Islands (WWI) - A sequel for the above. Same basic theme, but now reversed with the Germans the tragic protagonists far from home doomed to die fighting the far more powerful Royal Navy battlecruisers.
3.) Jutland - So much here I don't know where to start.....
4.) The Israel Air Force during the Six Day War or Yom Kippur War. I'm sure, given the sensitivity of the subject, it would never get made...but one day I'd love to see Mirage IIIs dogfighting Hawker Hunters, MiG-17 and MiG-21s over the desert. :rock
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I know it's not the battle of your fourth suggestion but have you seen 'Cast a Giant Shadow?'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_a_Giant_Shadow
Another movie I've found very interesting (and only discovered a couple of years ago, to my amazement) is Seven Days in May.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_51
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Ideas for war movies I would love to see:
+1 on 1, 2, 3,
The only other vid game I play is "Distant Guns".. I dig the
whole Dreadnought era.. Was just reading about Spee a
week ago.. I agree, not common knowledge tho.
Odd, that the ship named after him would end it's life in
the same region of the world huh???
4, i don't think the world can handle it.. :rolleyes:
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I check you tube periodically for free full length classic war movies:
Hell in the Pacific: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTPd3eOPPNQ
Gung Ho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA6xqfSO30o
Gettysburg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcaRk0ZRJ4
Go for Broke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96hP7HiQFc
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I know it's not the battle of your fourth suggestion but have you seen 'Cast a Giant Shadow?'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_a_Giant_Shadow
Another movie I've found very interesting (and only discovered a couple of years ago, to my amazement) is Seven Days in May.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_51
I'll have to watch the first. The second I saw several years ago (on AMC I think) and rather liked it.
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+1 on 1, 2, 3,
The only other vid game I play is "Distant Guns".. I dig the
whole Dreadnought era.. Was just reading about Spee a
week ago.. I agree, not common knowledge tho.
Odd, that the ship named after him would end it's life in
the same region of the world huh???
4, i don't think the world can handle it.. :rolleyes:
If you like Distant Guns, get Jutland and it's add ons from the same company (Storm Eagle Studios). It's worth it. :aok
Speaking of Distant Guns and the The Russo-Japanese War...did you know Toho made a movie out of Battle of Tsushima back in 1969?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc3IrJwG7o&list=TLzjHgLbKJqsVyxyD2XhfACfpnmhYqGNWW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc3IrJwG7o&list=TLzjHgLbKJqsVyxyD2XhfACfpnmhYqGNWW)
The Battle of the River Plate (where the German Pocket Battleship Graf von Spee met its end as you correctly pointed out) was made into a movie as well. Saw it years ago...it was pretty dreadful.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048990/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048990/)
Would love to see a remake. And yes, I always thought it was odd the co-incendence of it meeting its end not terribly far from where von Spee the man died.
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4.) The Israel Air Force during the Six Day War or Yom Kippur War. I'm sure, given the sensitivity of the subject, it would never get made...but one day I'd love to see Mirage IIIs dogfighting Hawker Hunters, MiG-17 and MiG-21s over the desert. :rock
There are some subjects that documentaries are actually better:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XGgITqaAbg
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FMLNlMEoo
(Hollywood tends to ruing anything historical it touches)
That is why I stopped seeing action/war movies produced by Hollywood
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Another movie I've found very interesting (and only discovered a couple of years ago, to my amazement) is Seven Days in May.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_51
While Wiki suggests the book and film were based on General Edwin Walker, I always thought that Knebel and Bailey had MacArthur and Truman in mind when they wrote this novel.
One of my favorite repartees of all time:
General Scott: I asked you a question — do you know who Judas was?!
Colonel Casey: Yes, I know who Judas was. He was a man I worked for and admired until he disgraced the four stars on his uniform.
- oldman
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Amazing roles for Douglas and Lancaster both.
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Sadly I think we've come to an end of an era for WW2 movies. And for many reasons.
The generation that fought it and remembered it is largely gone. Movie makers want to appeal to the young hip crowd, the ones with spendable cash, and they have to make their money off a movie quick. I bet at least 1/2 of high school seniors dont even know who all fought in the war or the years it was fought in. I suppose you could make money off a "Sink the Bismark" movie nowdays as long as you had the Dallas Cheerleaders staring dancing off the decks of the ships. A shame as these were, and are, great stories.
War movies of the future will be of current and future conflicts. I think the era of great WW2 films are about over.
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Dare I say it a bridge to far.
Tho Im just going to say its almost to awesome to redo
Drinking a liquid lunch again, are we?
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Ideas for war movies I would love to see:
2.) The Battle of the Falkland Islands (WWI)
4.) The Israel Air Force during the Six Day War or Yom Kippur War.
These two would never be made by Hollywood for your reason:
Never, EVAH, underestimate the anti-capitalist / anti-colonial outlook of the movies makers over in the Peoples Republic of California.
:aok
when you add in anti-US ally (i.e., anti-UK), anti-Israel (which is so odd, given how many in Hollywood are Jewish), pro-socialism/communism (so pro-Argentina). Even though you mean the WWI Battle of the Falkland Islands, Hollywood would still associate it with the modern theme.
Now, if you pick a topic that glorifies crime, socialism, communism, or anyone who hates the US, or shows the US, capitalism, business, work ethic, free markets, or US history in a bad light, then you have a good chance of Hollywood making it.
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Well. Guess my list of movies were aberrations. :confused:
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Sadly I think we've come to an end of an era for WW2 movies. And for many reasons.
The generation that fought it and remembered it is largely gone. Movie makers want to appeal to the young hip crowd, the ones with spendable cash, and they have to make their money off a movie quick. I bet at least 1/2 of high school seniors dont even know who all fought in the war or the years it was fought in. I suppose you could make money off a "Sink the Bismark" movie nowdays as long as you had the Dallas Cheerleaders staring dancing off the decks of the ships. A shame as these were, and are, great stories.
War movies of the future will be of current and future conflicts. I think the era of great WW2 films are about over.
gotta agree on the whole. then again, with the right actors and if the movie didn't get spielberged into the toilet with complete b.s. a war movie that didn't show the horrors of war to excess could do well at the box office.
there have been enough movies on the 3rd reich recently one has to wonder why there hasn't been any movies on the luftwaffe aces. i'd love to see a movie about the any of the luftwaffe aces if it was done right without too much spielberg like nonsense.
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I check you tube periodically for free full length classic war movies:
Hell in the Pacific: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTPd3eOPPNQ
Gung Ho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA6xqfSO30o
Gettysburg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcaRk0ZRJ4
Go for Broke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96hP7HiQFc
omg...the only one of those worth watching was gettysburg and that was barely worth the time.
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omg...the only one of those worth watching was gettysburg and that was barely worth the time.
Sorry, I won't stoop to Star Wars. :D
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Now, if you pick a topic that glorifies crime, socialism, communism, or anyone who hates the US, or shows the US, capitalism, business, work ethic, free markets, or US history in a bad light, then you have a good chance of Hollywood making it.
Sadly, I have to agree. I'm also sad because others agree a Falkland Islands movie wont be made. :cry
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Force 10 From Navarrone should be re done more in line with the book.
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Well. Guess my list of movies were aberrations. :confused:
Current Hollywood, not older Hollywood.
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Current Hollywood, not older Hollywood.
Oh! Ok, then. :D
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I have a movie to make request. A Final Countdown remake, but a little different twist.
A squad of A-10s flying into Myrtle Bch fly through a storm over the ocean. They disappear from radar and re-appear on final approach to Da Nang Air Base in 1967. This time, there not coming home.
You can write the rest of the story.
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I have a movie to make request. A Final Countdown remake, but a little different twist.
A squad of A-10s flying into Myrtle Bch fly through a storm over the ocean. They disappear from radar and re-appear on final approach to Da Nang Air Base in 1967. This time, there not coming home.
You can write the rest of the story.
the v.c. had captured french 40mm anti aircraft guns all around the base and they shoot down all the a-10s...roll credits. :D
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the v.c. had captured french 40mm anti aircraft guns all around the base and they shoot down all the a-10s...roll credits. :D
That's cold dude.
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That's cold dude.
i no vc, i no vc!!!
what did you expect? the a-10s with just the ordnance they have on board wipe out the north vietnamese army and everyone goes home singing " when johhny comes marching home"?
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Debbie Does Danzig?
Would that be midget p0rn?
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Would that be midget p0rn?
If it isn't, it should be.
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Oh! Ok, then. :D
And I might be exaggerating a bit. (But not by a lot. ;) )
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If you like Distant Guns, get Jutland and it's add ons from the same company (Storm Eagle Studios). It's worth it. :aok
Speaking of Distant Guns and the The Russo-Japanese War...did you know Toho made a movie out of Battle of Tsushima back in 1969?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc3IrJwG7o&list=TLzjHgLbKJqsVyxyD2XhfACfpnmhYqGNWW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc3IrJwG7o&list=TLzjHgLbKJqsVyxyD2XhfACfpnmhYqGNWW)
The Battle of the River Plate (where the German Pocket Battleship Graf von Spee met its end as you correctly pointed out) was made into a movie as well. Saw it years ago...it was pretty dreadful.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048990/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048990/)
Would love to see a remake. And yes, I always thought it was odd the co-incendence of it meeting its end not terribly far from where von Spee the man died.
Oh Yeah,
I kinda just group it all together in the "Distant Guns" family..
Sure, Jutland and all the modules go without sayin...
Seriously absorbing without question.. :aok
I have both of those movies in my collection..
The Tsushima video is Magnificent.. An example of how CG should be
done.. But the Japanese are the masters of Naval CG..
Nobody even disputes that..
LOL a USN Cruiser used as the Graf Spee.. And they didn't even bother
to paint out the bow number.. At least they used real Navy ships in
the film.. Some good scenes in there.. Gun drills etc..
Ya know, Langsdorf was an old Imperial Navy Officer, known to treat his
prisoners as well as his own hands.. Maybe one of the last expressions
of true chivalry in war, seen by mankind..
In the end, he wrapped himself in the old Imperial Battle Flag, and shot
himself.. A good man, forced to serve an evil master..
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How about they don't remake any of them, but instead make something new and original. Yeah ok I've been drinking.
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Blasphemy!!
Absolutely. Gene Wilder played Willy as darkly as he was written by Dahl. You were never sure of his motives or whether or not he gave a crap about the child protaganists. Depp played Willy as a wussy, whiney Mummy's boy with no Mummy and just wanted someone to love him, oooo, let's say, I know, His Dad!
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How about they don't remake any of them, but instead make something new and original. Yeah ok I've been drinking.
And yet .....
We are on that same page. :D
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Oh Yeah,
I kinda just group it all together in the "Distant Guns" family..
Sure, Jutland and all the modules go without sayin...
Seriously absorbing without question.. :aok
:aok this. One of the few games I play outside AH these days.
The Tsushima video is Magnificent.. An example of how CG should be
done.. But the Japanese are the masters of Naval CG..
Nobody even disputes that..
Would love to know where you were able to pick that up if you remember....been thinking of getting a copy. eBay?
Ya know, Langsdorf was an old Imperial Navy Officer, known to treat his
prisoners as well as his own hands.. Maybe one of the last expressions
of true chivalry in war, seen by mankind..
In the end, he wrapped himself in the old Imperial Battle Flag, and shot
himself.. A good man, forced to serve an evil master..
Yup. :salute
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not a "war" movie per say.....
but a book that should absolutely be made into a movie....
The Sword of Shannara.
blows away LOTR
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anyone watch "Emperor" with Tommy Lee Jones playing Gen. MacArthur? i found it unexpectedly interesting and entertaining...
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anyone watch "Emperor" with Tommy Lee Jones playing Gen. MacArthur? i found it unexpectedly interesting and entertaining...
best TLJ movie is "The park in mine"
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12 O'clock High.
This is a superb movie, 1949 with Gregory Peck in black and white. The protagonist commander takes control of the squadron and through harsh discipline, molds them into a more affective fighting unit. The underlying theme is how hard it is for that commander to send so many young men into death. In the end the pressure of it becomes too much for him.
I'd vote for Gary Sinise as commander. Just think with special affects now adays what an epic war movie it could be.
As for the rest....well I am usually disappointed by war movies though I watch them all. Mostly I find them trite, full of cliché's and with implausible plots.
IMO Spielberg and Bigelow have set the bar by which all other war movies are compared in modern times.
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12 O'clock High.
This is a superb movie, 1949 with Gregory Peck in black and white. The protagonist commander takes control of the squadron and through harsh discipline, molds them into a more affective fighting unit. The underlying theme is how hard it is for that commander to send so many young men into death. In the end the pressure of it becomes too much for him.
I'd vote for Gary Sinise as commander. Just think with special affects now adays what an epic war movie it could be.
As for the rest....well I am usually disappointed by war movies though I watch them all. Mostly I find them trite, full of cliché's and with implausible plots.
IMO Spielberg and Bigelow have set the bar by which all other war movies are compared in modern times.
No matter what roll Sinise plays, I see Lt. Dan :lol
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best TLJ movie is "The park in mine"
you mean this dog? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091724/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091724/) seriously? oy...there is a long list of far better movies.
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you mean this dog? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091724/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091724/) seriously? oy...there is a long list of far better movies.
thats the one.....something about that movie just rocked
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I still need to see Battleship (the new one).
I'm expecting it to be on par with A Bridge Too Far, but with a science-fiction element at the level of Blade Runner. ;)
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Brooke, prepare to be disappointed. think transformers decepticons vs the u.s. navy and add a little battle for los angeles in left field.
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not a "war" movie per say.....
but a book that should absolutely be made into a movie....
The Sword of Shannara.
blows away LOTR???!?!?!? :O
(http://www.butnotyet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Heresy-Stamp.png)
The kill teams are moving into position. Terminate the heretic.
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Brooke, prepare to be disappointed. think transformers decepticons vs the u.s. navy and add a little battle for los angeles in left field.
Except that Battle for Los Angeles wasn't horrible (I actually enjoyed it..not a great movie...but entertaining if at times illogical).
Battleship is maybe the worse movie I've ever seen. I'm surprised a judge didn't issue a restraining order against the movie studio citing cruel and unusual punishment.
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Except that Battle for Los Angeles wasn't horrible (I actually enjoyed it..not a great movie...but entertaining if at times illogical).
Battleship is maybe the worse movie I've ever seen. I'm surprised a judge didn't issue a restraining order against the movie studio citing cruel and unusual punishment.
i enjoyed battle for los angeles too but i was referring to the shoot'em up and bizarre alien aspect...in battleship they went out in left field with some stuff that may have been entertaining if it were in the correct context.
this movie was worse than battleship... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175927/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175927/)
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The kill teams are moving into position. Terminate the heretic.
:rofl
get the book...read the book....forget about LOTR :D
but then you will have to get The Elfstones of Shannara...
and I was mistaken...while the "sword" is great I meant to say
"The Wishsong of Shannara"
written by Terri Brooks.
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ahem...those fantasy novels were great distractions before i could shoot guns. :D
now they are nothing more than mystical love stories in the guise of nerd fodder. :neener:
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:rofl
get the book...read the book....forget about LOTR :D
but then you will have to get The Elfstones of Shannara...
and I was mistaken...while the "sword" is great I meant to say
"The Wishsong of Shannara"
written by Terri Brooks.
Read 'em. Liked em. Have the audiobook of Elfstones (the best of the three IMHO). Allanon is my favorite character.
But they are still not LotR....
<Kill team, engage.>
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Read 'em. Liked em. Have the audiobook of Elfstones (the best of the three IMHO). Allanon is my favorite character.
But they are still not LotR....
<Kill team, engage.>
Allonon is a bad wamma jamma..... :rock
thats cool that you read them, next to any Conan by REH, those 3 are my favorite books.
ahem...those fantasy novels were great distractions before i could shoot guns. :D
now they are nothing more than mystical love stories in the guise of nerd fodder. :neener:
reading is something I did quite a bit of when I was younger, Books are great escapes.
shot a bunch of guns....nothing impressive(not the guns I fired..just guns in general)...ANYONE can pull a trigger.
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Brooke, prepare to be disappointed. think transformers decepticons vs the u.s. navy and add a little battle for los angeles in left field.
I know -- I have low expectations, and they might still not be met. :)
However, a pal of mine saw it, and the one thing I like the idea of is a bunch of old vets (with A-Team music in the background, presumably) showing the whipper snappers how to get the old ship running again.
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Allonon is a bad wamma jamma..... :rock
thats cool that you read them, next to any Conan by REH, those 3 are my favorite books.
reading is something I did quite a bit of when I was younger, Books are great escapes.
shot a bunch of guns....nothing impressive(not the guns I fired..just guns in general)...ANYONE can pull a trigger.
Yeah...I was a huge reader as a kid and it sounds like we read the same stuff for probably the same reasons. REH was great. Conan, Kull, Bran Mac Morn, Cormac Mac Art, Solomon Kane, and his historical fiction stuff are all amazing. My favorite REH story is The Sowers of the Thunder, which would be a pretty great movie in its own right. I recently picked up the three REH Conan collections in print and on audiobook. Listening to Red Nails was a blast...I first read that when I was 11 and it scared me. :lol
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reading is something I did quite a bit of when I was younger, Books are great escapes.
shot a bunch of guns....nothing impressive(not the guns I fired..just guns in general)...ANYONE can pull a trigger.
ya i read like a fiend when i was younger too, surprised my eyes didn't bleed...but things that went boom were a lot more fun than swords and knives.
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12 Oclock High was a great movie but it was mostly drama and a little dry at that. It would be a great candidate for a remake if it had a lot of CG action scenes. It would be hard to find anyone who could play Gen Savage better then Greg Peck however. He was a natural for that role.
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Yeah...I was a huge reader as a kid and it sounds like we read the same stuff for probably the same reasons. REH was great. Conan, Kull, Bran Mac Morn, Cormac Mac Art, Solomon Kane, and his historical fiction stuff are all amazing. My favorite REH story is The Sowers of the Thunder, which would be a pretty great movie in its own right. I recently picked up the three REH Conan collections in print and on audiobook. Listening to Red Nails was a blast...I first read that when I was 11 and it scared me. :lol
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Red Nails I read when I was 12 in YDC....my favorite Conan Book, except maybe The hour of the Dragon.
it didn't scare me though....
no google....
The Lion Banner sways and falls in the Horror Haunted gloom
A Scarlett dragon rustles by born on wings of doom
in heaps the shinning Horseman lie, their thrusting lances break....
Deep in the shadows the lost black Gods awake.
dead hands grope in the Shadows the stars turn pale with fright,
for this is the Dragons Hour the triumph of fear and night.
its probably wrong...but I haven't read that book in years.....
REH is to me, the greatest pulp fiction author....all his stuff is phenomenal :rock
ya i read like a fiend when i was younger too, surprised my eyes didn't bleed...but things that went boom were a lot more fun than swords and knives.
:D
I read "Battlefield earth" in 3 days....I can read over 700 pages in a day.... :D
when you are locked up there isn't all that much to do....
considering I had my 12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20th,21st,and finally got out 4 days before I turned 22...birthdays all locked up, saying I did a lot of reading....is an understatement. :O
sorry for hijack :o
old war movie that should be redone that no one has mentioned.
7 Samurai :devil
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Japanese movie about the battleship Yamato. Very over-acted, but the CGI shows what can be done on even a modest budget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QWqDTCk2A
I was amused to see olive drab razorback P-47s attacking the Yamato in 1945.... Maybe they hadn't modeled the F6F.....
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I was amused to see olive drab razorback P-47s attacking the Yamato in 1945.... Maybe they hadn't modeled the F6F.....
It was the Seabolt!
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The kill teams are moving into position. Terminate the heretic.
hehe secret 40K fans then :) like me
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Who me? No no no. That's crazy talk!
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Who me? No no no. That's crazy talk!
LOL! ;)
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not a "war" movie per say.....
but a book that should absolutely be made into a movie....
The Sword of Shannara.
blows away LOTR
if by 'blows away' you mean 'shamelessly copies' then yeah
still a good read though
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ohhhh and as some people have been mentioning 40k stuff
let me just say
DAN ABNETT
all of his books are fantastic, but the Eisenhorn trilogy is a 100% must read. even if you're not into 40k stuff it's just a fantastic sci-fi epic.
you can all thank me later :)
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ohhhh and as some people have been mentioning 40k stuff
let me just say
DAN ABNETT
all of his books are fantastic, but the Eisenhorn trilogy is a 100% must read. even if you're not into 40k stuff it's just a fantastic sci-fi epic.
you can all thank me later :)
Agreed...his stuff is always good. My favorite Black Library writer is currently Aaron Dembski-Bowden.
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if by 'blows away' you mean 'shamelessly copies' then yeah
still a good read though
:rofl
not even close to a copy :O
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I would like to see Sahara remade. Of course I am referring to the 1943 Humphrey Bogart movie. I know it was remade in 1995 for HBO with Jim Belushi playing the part of Joe Gunn but I can't find it anywhere. I did see both of them though.
If they can be accurate with the equipment it would be nice to see it done again.
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:rofl
not even close to a copy :O
uhhh have you even read them both? :huh
In 1978, the influential fantasy editor Lin Carter denounced The Sword of Shannara as "the single most cold-blooded, complete rip-off of another book that I have ever read".[30] Elaborating on his disapproval of the book, Carter wrote that "Terry Brooks wasn't trying to imitate Tolkien's prose, just steal his story line and complete cast of characters, and [Brooks] did it with such clumsiness and so heavy-handedly, that he virtually rubbed your nose in it."[30] Roger C. Schlobin was kinder in his assessment, though he still thought that The Sword of Shannara was a disappointment because of its similarities to The Lord of the Rings.[31] Brian Attebery accused The Sword of Shannara of being "undigested Tolkien" which was "especially blatant in its point-for-point correspondence" with The Lord of the Rings.[32] In an educational article on writing, the author Orson Scott Card cited The Sword of Shannara as a cautionary example of overly-derivative writing, finding the work "artistically displeasing" for this reason.[33]
Assessing The Sword of Shannara three decades after its publication, the Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey agreed with Attebery, as Shippey found that the novel was distinctive for "the dogged way in which it follow[ed] Tolkien point for point".[34] Within Brooks' novel, Shippey located "analogues" for Tolkien characters such as Sauron (Brona), Gandalf (Allanon), the Hobbits (Shea and Flick), Aragorn (Menion), Boromir (Balinor), Gimli (Hendel), Legolas (Durin and Dayel), Gollum (Orl Fane), the Barrow-wight (Mist Wraith) and the Nazgûl (Skull Bearers), among others.[34] He also found plot similarities to events in The Lord of the Rings such as the Fellowship of the Ring's formation and adventures, the journeys to Rivendell (Culhaven) and Lothlórien (Storlock), Gandalf's (Allanon) fall in Moria (Paranor) and subsequent reappearance, and the Rohirrim's arrival at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (Battle of Tirsys), among others.[34]
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Remakes suck. How for example, could one remake Cross of Iron, without the director Sam Peckinpah's vision?
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uhhh have you even read them both? :huh
In 1978, the influential fantasy editor Lin Carter denounced The Sword of Shannara as "the single most cold-blooded, complete rip-off of another book that I have ever read".[30] Elaborating on his disapproval of the book, Carter wrote that "Terry Brooks wasn't trying to imitate Tolkien's prose, just steal his story line and complete cast of characters, and [Brooks] did it with such clumsiness and so heavy-handedly, that he virtually rubbed your nose in it."[30] Roger C. Schlobin was kinder in his assessment, though he still thought that The Sword of Shannara was a disappointment because of its similarities to The Lord of the Rings.[31] Brian Attebery accused The Sword of Shannara of being "undigested Tolkien" which was "especially blatant in its point-for-point correspondence" with The Lord of the Rings.[32] In an educational article on writing, the author Orson Scott Card cited The Sword of Shannara as a cautionary example of overly-derivative writing, finding the work "artistically displeasing" for this reason.[33]
Assessing The Sword of Shannara three decades after its publication, the Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey agreed with Attebery, as Shippey found that the novel was distinctive for "the dogged way in which it follow[ed] Tolkien point for point".[34] Within Brooks' novel, Shippey located "analogues" for Tolkien characters such as Sauron (Brona), Gandalf (Allanon), the Hobbits (Shea and Flick), Aragorn (Menion), Boromir (Balinor), Gimli (Hendel), Legolas (Durin and Dayel), Gollum (Orl Fane), the Barrow-wight (Mist Wraith) and the Nazgûl (Skull Bearers), among others.[34] He also found plot similarities to events in The Lord of the Rings such as the Fellowship of the Ring's formation and adventures, the journeys to Rivendell (Culhaven) and Lothlórien (Storlock), Gandalf's (Allanon) fall in Moria (Paranor) and subsequent reappearance, and the Rohirrim's arrival at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (Battle of Tirsys), among others.[34]
:rofl :rofl :rofl Lin Carter........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Ok now that I am done laughing.....
actually I meant when I posted that(which I post at some point later) I meant to say "The wishsong of Shannara" not the "Sword of Shannara"(obviously you missed that ;))
The sword is ok but my least favorite one of the 3 original Shannara series.
they are Fantasy adventure books, with Wizards and what not....of course there are gonna be similarities. :rolleyes:
the Wishsong is the Book out of the Shannara Series that is awesome.
and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....
so....ya.
but I digress....I am done hijacking the thread.
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and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....
so....ya.
*takes over as hijacker* :D that would kinda make him an "expert" in what ripping off and hacking other peoples work looks like wouldn't it? :lol :bolt:
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
:neener:
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:rofl :rofl :rofl Lin Carter........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Ok now that I am done laughing.....
actually I meant when I posted that(which I post at some point later) I meant to say "The wishsong of Shannara" not the "Sword of Shannara"(obviously you missed that ;))
The sword is ok but my least favorite one of the 3 original Shannara series.
they are Fantasy adventure books, with Wizards and what not....of course there are gonna be similarities. :rolleyes:
the Wishsong is the Book out of the Shannara Series that is awesome.
and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....
so....ya.
but I digress....I am done hijacking the thread.
hey don't get me wrong i enjoy the books :aok
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Red Nails I read when I was 12 in YDC....my favorite Conan Book, except maybe The hour of the Dragon.
it didn't scare me though....
no google....
The Lion Banner sways and falls in the Horror Haunted gloom
A Scarlett dragon rustles by born on wings of doom
in heaps the shinning Horseman lie, their thrusting lances break....
Deep in the shadows the lost black Gods awake.
dead hands grope in the Shadows the stars turn pale with fright,
for this is the Dragons Hour the triumph of fear and night.
its probably wrong...but I haven't read that book in years.....
REH is to me, the greatest pulp fiction author....all his stuff is phenomenal :rock
:D
I read "Battlefield earth" in 3 days....I can read over 700 pages in a day.... :D
when you are locked up there isn't all that much to do....
considering I had my 12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20th,21st,and finally got out 4 days before I turned 22...birthdays all locked up, saying I did a lot of reading....is an understatement. :O
sorry for hijack :o
old war movie that should be redone that no one has mentioned.
7 Samurai :devil
Actually they did if you consider the Magnificent 7
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Actually they did if you consider the Magnificent 7
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aside from the poor voice overs...i always wondered about that.
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(http://jimmysintension.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/homer-doh.jpg)
aside from the poor voice overs...i always wondered about that.
I was going to mention that as well. The original is still better.... But the Magnificent 7 is a classic in its own right.
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Any new flying movie will not use real airplanes like the old ones did.
I, for one, would rather have real airplanes and corny effects instead of everything being CGI.
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I, for one, would rather have real airplanes and corny effects instead of everything being CGI.
I enjoy the ones that did it but I see the potential of CGi ... if ... designed and directed by someone who had an inkling of both history and technology.
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I was going to mention that as well. The original is still better.... But the Magnificent 7 is a classic in its own right.
Oh yes. One of my top ten favorite westerns (rotating out of the #1 slot depending on how saturated I feel from watching it again).
I would have enjoyed the sixties so much more if I had been an adult then. :(
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I would have enjoyed the sixties so much more if I had been an adult then. :(
you would have been one of those rope smoking hippies... :neener:
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blue max...would love to see a remake of that. i wonder what ron howard is doing, or maybe the wachowski broth...er siblings.
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If you havent heard already. Some of you may be interested in this
http://www.lafayette.edu/about/news/2013/03/07/new-hbo-miniseries-based-on-professor-donald-l-millers-masters-of-the-air/
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If you havent heard already. Some of you may be interested in this
http://www.lafayette.edu/about/news/2013/03/07/new-hbo-miniseries-based-on-professor-donald-l-millers-masters-of-the-air/
This looks promising. Hanks seems to keep it real.
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Marvelous news on the HBO series for Masters of the Air. That was an excellent book, and the HBO miniseries are top notch.
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12 O'clock High.
This is a superb movie, 1949 with Gregory Peck in black and white. The protagonist commander takes control of the squadron and through harsh discipline, molds them into a more affective fighting unit. The underlying theme is how hard it is for that commander to send so many young men into death. In the end the pressure of it becomes too much for him.
I'd vote for Gary Sinise as commander. Just think with special affects now adays what an epic war movie it could be.
As for the rest....well I am usually disappointed by war movies though I watch them all. Mostly I find them trite, full of cliché's and with implausible plots.
IMO Spielberg and Bigelow have set the bar by which all other war movies are compared in modern times.
A movie such as this does not have to be remade. As it is, it is excellent, and one of my favorites. The acting is top notch, plot line is solid, and there is no "let's wave the flag" that is seamingly the norm of war films these days.
I fear that if they were to redo this film... they would infuse masive amounts of CG which is a problem in all things hollywood. I want to be entertained and drawn into the story by the characters.....with the action augmenting the story. Not sitting there looking at all the eye candy with what they can do and then having the characters augment the action.
I started the thread because I thought that somebody could do a better job of "the battle of the Bulge" than the one that was out there.
Valkyrie....sorry....I just can't get my head around Tom Cruise being in the role he played.
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Has anyone else seen "Raid on Entebbe"? It was a decent movie, I love the story behind it and it will go down as one of the most daring actions taken by the Israelis if not the entire SF community. But I also think it would be one that Hollywood might be able to not screw up.
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ohhhh and as some people have been mentioning 40k stuff
let me just say
DAN ABNETT
all of his books are fantastic, but the Eisenhorn trilogy is a 100% must read. even if you're not into 40k stuff it's just a fantastic sci-fi epic.
you can all thank me later :)
OH hell yeah ......loads of good Horus Heresy stories. and Gaunts Ghosts.
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OH hell yeah ......loads of good Horus Heresy stories. and Gaunts Ghosts.
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:D :aok
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Has anyone else seen "Raid on Entebbe"? It was a decent movie, I love the story behind it and it will go down as one of the most daring actions taken by the Israelis if not the entire SF community. But I also think it would be one that Hollywood might be able to not screw up.
Have you seen the: Operation Thunderbolt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Thunderbolt_(film))
It is quite old Israeli production - an excellent film (because it is not Hollywood production :D ) - the problem that if Hollywood does it, 95% it would be screwed up.