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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #135 on: September 29, 2013, 12:35:04 PM »
I would like to see Sahara remade. Of course I am referring to the 1943 Humphrey Bogart movie. I know it was remade in 1995 for HBO with Jim Belushi playing the part of Joe Gunn but I can't find it anywhere. I did see both of them though.

If they can be accurate with the equipment it would be nice to see it done again.

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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #136 on: September 29, 2013, 02:57:43 PM »
:rofl

not even close to a copy :O


uhhh have you even read them both?  :huh


In 1978, the influential fantasy editor Lin Carter denounced The Sword of Shannara as "the single most cold-blooded, complete rip-off of another book that I have ever read".[30] Elaborating on his disapproval of the book, Carter wrote that "Terry Brooks wasn't trying to imitate Tolkien's prose, just steal his story line and complete cast of characters, and [Brooks] did it with such clumsiness and so heavy-handedly, that he virtually rubbed your nose in it."[30] Roger C. Schlobin was kinder in his assessment, though he still thought that The Sword of Shannara was a disappointment because of its similarities to The Lord of the Rings.[31] Brian Attebery accused The Sword of Shannara of being "undigested Tolkien" which was "especially blatant in its point-for-point correspondence" with The Lord of the Rings.[32] In an educational article on writing, the author Orson Scott Card cited The Sword of Shannara as a cautionary example of overly-derivative writing, finding the work "artistically displeasing" for this reason.[33]

Assessing The Sword of Shannara three decades after its publication, the Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey agreed with Attebery, as Shippey found that the novel was distinctive for "the dogged way in which it follow[ed] Tolkien point for point".[34] Within Brooks' novel, Shippey located "analogues" for Tolkien characters such as Sauron (Brona), Gandalf (Allanon), the Hobbits (Shea and Flick), Aragorn (Menion), Boromir (Balinor), Gimli (Hendel), Legolas (Durin and Dayel), Gollum (Orl Fane), the Barrow-wight (Mist Wraith) and the Nazgûl (Skull Bearers), among others.[34] He also found plot similarities to events in The Lord of the Rings such as the Fellowship of the Ring's formation and adventures, the journeys to Rivendell (Culhaven) and Lothlórien (Storlock), Gandalf's (Allanon) fall in Moria (Paranor) and subsequent reappearance, and the Rohirrim's arrival at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (Battle of Tirsys), among others.[34]
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #137 on: September 29, 2013, 03:01:21 PM »
Remakes suck.  How for example, could one remake Cross of Iron, without the director Sam Peckinpah's vision?
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #138 on: September 29, 2013, 03:22:27 PM »

uhhh have you even read them both?  :huh


In 1978, the influential fantasy editor Lin Carter denounced The Sword of Shannara as "the single most cold-blooded, complete rip-off of another book that I have ever read".[30] Elaborating on his disapproval of the book, Carter wrote that "Terry Brooks wasn't trying to imitate Tolkien's prose, just steal his story line and complete cast of characters, and [Brooks] did it with such clumsiness and so heavy-handedly, that he virtually rubbed your nose in it."[30] Roger C. Schlobin was kinder in his assessment, though he still thought that The Sword of Shannara was a disappointment because of its similarities to The Lord of the Rings.[31] Brian Attebery accused The Sword of Shannara of being "undigested Tolkien" which was "especially blatant in its point-for-point correspondence" with The Lord of the Rings.[32] In an educational article on writing, the author Orson Scott Card cited The Sword of Shannara as a cautionary example of overly-derivative writing, finding the work "artistically displeasing" for this reason.[33]

Assessing The Sword of Shannara three decades after its publication, the Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey agreed with Attebery, as Shippey found that the novel was distinctive for "the dogged way in which it follow[ed] Tolkien point for point".[34] Within Brooks' novel, Shippey located "analogues" for Tolkien characters such as Sauron (Brona), Gandalf (Allanon), the Hobbits (Shea and Flick), Aragorn (Menion), Boromir (Balinor), Gimli (Hendel), Legolas (Durin and Dayel), Gollum (Orl Fane), the Barrow-wight (Mist Wraith) and the Nazgûl (Skull Bearers), among others.[34] He also found plot similarities to events in The Lord of the Rings such as the Fellowship of the Ring's formation and adventures, the journeys to Rivendell (Culhaven) and Lothlórien (Storlock), Gandalf's (Allanon) fall in Moria (Paranor) and subsequent reappearance, and the Rohirrim's arrival at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (Battle of Tirsys), among others.[34]


 :rofl :rofl :rofl Lin Carter........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Ok now that I am done laughing.....

actually I meant when I posted that(which I post at some point later) I meant to say "The wishsong of Shannara" not the "Sword of Shannara"(obviously you missed that ;))

The sword is ok but my least favorite one of the 3 original Shannara series.

they are Fantasy adventure books, with Wizards and what not....of course there are gonna be similarities.  :rolleyes:

the Wishsong is the Book out of the Shannara Series that is awesome.


and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....

so....ya.



but I digress....I am done hijacking the thread.

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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #139 on: September 29, 2013, 03:25:39 PM »
and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....

so....ya.
*takes over as hijacker*  :D  that would kinda make him an "expert" in what ripping off and hacking other peoples work looks like wouldn't it?   :lol   :bolt:
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #140 on: September 29, 2013, 03:26:58 PM »
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #141 on: September 29, 2013, 03:31:29 PM »

 :rofl :rofl :rofl Lin Carter........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Ok now that I am done laughing.....

actually I meant when I posted that(which I post at some point later) I meant to say "The wishsong of Shannara" not the "Sword of Shannara"(obviously you missed that ;))

The sword is ok but my least favorite one of the 3 original Shannara series.

they are Fantasy adventure books, with Wizards and what not....of course there are gonna be similarities.  :rolleyes:

the Wishsong is the Book out of the Shannara Series that is awesome.


and I would take anything "lin Carter" says with a grain of salt, he is one of the guys that hacked REH's work....and ripped off REH on many occasions....

so....ya.



but I digress....I am done hijacking the thread.

hey don't get me wrong i enjoy the books :aok
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2013, 03:54:57 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl

Red Nails I read when I was 12 in YDC....my favorite Conan Book, except maybe The hour of the Dragon.
it didn't scare me though....

no google....


The Lion Banner sways and falls in the Horror Haunted gloom
A Scarlett dragon rustles by born on wings of doom
in heaps the shinning Horseman lie, their thrusting lances break....
Deep in the shadows the lost black Gods awake.
dead hands grope in the Shadows the stars turn pale with fright,
for this is the Dragons Hour the triumph of fear and night.

its probably wrong...but I haven't read that book in years.....

REH is to me, the greatest pulp fiction author....all his stuff is phenomenal :rock

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sorry for hijack :o


old war movie that should be redone that no one has mentioned.

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Actually they did if you consider the Magnificent 7

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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2013, 03:59:31 PM »
Actually they did if you consider the Magnificent 7


aside from the poor voice overs...i always wondered about that.
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2013, 04:21:39 PM »
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aside from the poor voice overs...i always wondered about that.

I was going to mention that as well. The original is still better.... But the Magnificent 7 is a classic in its own right.
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2013, 08:25:30 PM »
Any new flying movie will not use real airplanes like the old ones did.

I, for one, would rather have real airplanes and corny effects instead of everything being CGI.
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2013, 09:37:22 PM »
I, for one, would rather have real airplanes and corny effects instead of everything being CGI.

I enjoy the ones that did it but I see the potential of CGi ... if ... designed and directed by someone who had an inkling of both history and technology.

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« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2013, 09:39:06 PM »
I was going to mention that as well. The original is still better.... But the Magnificent 7 is a classic in its own right.

Oh yes. One of my top ten favorite westerns (rotating out of the #1 slot depending on how saturated I feel from watching it again).

I would have enjoyed the sixties so much more if I had been an adult then.  :(

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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2013, 11:01:14 PM »
I would have enjoyed the sixties so much more if I had been an adult then.  :(
you would have been one of those rope smoking hippies...  :neener:
 



blue max...would love to see a remake of that. i wonder what ron howard is doing, or maybe the wachowski broth...er siblings.
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Re: War Movies that should be remade
« Reply #149 on: October 01, 2013, 06:03:45 PM »
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