Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Franz Von Werra on September 26, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
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Please add this:
Much fun to be added to the game...
Allow players to stand on the roof of the tower, as a pilot, and remote control their planes... as in multiplayer, R/C planes with amo!
Would be a first of its kind? This would be fun!
Top pilot for R/C mode?
At the park with real life R/C planes:
"Dude!, where did you learn to fly a remote control plane like that?" :O
"Aces High, see it at flyaceshigh.com!" :aok
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+1 for a different KIND of wish in the wishlist..
Kind of unusual.. :aok
Isn't AH2 kinda like remote control already??
So the plane would be remotely remote controlled??
Interesting subject tho..
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+1 for a different KIND of wish in the wishlist..
Kind of unusual.. :aok
Isn't AH2 kinda like remote control already??
So the plane would be remotely remote controlled??
Interesting subject tho..
Ditto.
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Like F3 mode except that it will be harder to see the plane the further it is away from the tower?
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Meh. Doesn't appeal here. If I wanted RC models as a hobby I wouldn't be a cartoon fighter/bomber/goon/PT boat pilot. ;)
No offense meant, though. :cheers:
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someone really needs to...
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this is one of the worst wishes i have seen
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:rofl
this community if funny as heck :aok
different wish for sure would be cool for offline....
just not in the MA
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For a special event like the races I think it would be cool. Would get weird flying an rc plane with a warthog or a ch fighterstick though no?
:cheers:
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Here ya go www.phoenix-sim.com (http://www.phoenix-sim.com) Now go away
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Here ya go www.phoenix-sim.com (http://www.phoenix-sim.com) Now go away
Beat me to it.
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This would be good for practice to learn R/C flying before crashing your favorite R/C fighter first time you try to up at the park... perks lost? $200 and some hours of assembly.
AND IF YOU BROUGHT YOUR GF, SHE WILL THINK (KNOW) YOU ARE A LOOOOSER!
Btw, most females simply are not willing to watch you "play a video game" even one as awesome Aces High...
Invite her to a park with your R/C plane, with a picnic basket, she'll have fun!
So yeah, do a basic airshow and land... just don't crash and then have to bring it home in the picnic basket...
So yes, player near center of runway (a chute) with R/C MODE controls with of course, a MULTIPLAYER ARENA PLEASE!
QUIZ: If the plane is facing you, which way to roll to get the plane to turn to its right? :huh :headscratch: :rolleyes: :rock
And add an in game picture of a bunch of players (chutes) doing R/C mode on the main page?
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here you go...knock yourself out
http://rcflightsim.com/index.html
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This would be good for practice to learn R/C flying before crashing your favorite R/C fighter first time you try to up at the park... perks lost? $200 and some hours of assembly.
Most R/C kit bundles come with a R/C sim to learn/practice on your PC. No need to waste resources in making one in AH.
ack-ack
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Yeah but AH version would have... guns!
Achievement: shoot someone else's r/c plane down! Get yee arse kicked if try that at the park! :rofl
Resources? The 99% of it is done already, just let us fly from our chute? Same controls...
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No
:cheers: Oz
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-1 for the main arena. Dedicated RC sims are better for learning because model aircraft behave differently when compared to real ones. For some it would be an interesting experiment because I have heard of enthusiasts experimenting with lazer, IR, sonic devices and/or FPV to mock combat. Maybe for them it would give a feeling of how easy/difficult it would actually be. Wouldn`t use it but not against it in offline, custom or some other arena. Maybe it would make RC enthusiast to try the game.
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This would be good for practice to learn R/C flying before crashing your favorite R/C fighter
It won't. Learning to fly RC aircraft has nothing to do with practicing maneuvers on a video screen. It's about coordination. You can learn to coordinate a video airplane with PC hardware and controls. You can't practice using a joystick or mouse to fly a plane on a screen to learn coordination with a completely different kind of remote with wind and real depth perception to contend with. But most importantly, coordinating your thumbs to the real life flight characteristics of an RC plane.
This would do one thing, although I don't think it would be that popular, it would take players out of the MA and hurt the core of this game. If they want to fly RC they have that option, but good business models don't make it easy for customers to give up their "premium" products for their less attractive novelties.
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Yeah but AH version would have... guns!
You'd put your eye out!
JUGgler
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Ohh ohhkay Muzik...
Going by what you say, then THIS GAME WOULD NOT HELP ANYONE LEARN REAL DOGFIGHTING AT ALL either then?
Its just a game, has nothing in common with Real Life?!?! ;)
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Ohh ohhkay Muzik...
THIS GAME WOULD NOT HELP ANYONE LEARN REAL DOGFIGHTING AT ALL either then?
Its just a game, has nothing in common with Real Life?!?! ;)
No truer statement has ever been spoken!
JUGgler
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It won't. Learning to fly RC aircraft has nothing to do with practicing maneuvers on a video screen. It's about coordination. You can learn to coordinate a video airplane with PC hardware and controls. You can't practice using a joystick or mouse to fly a plane on a screen to learn coordination with a completely different kind of remote with wind and real depth perception to contend with. But most importantly, coordinating your thumbs to the real life flight characteristics of an RC plane.
Actually, practicing on a PC does help improve one's RC flying using an RC flight sim program. The one I have lets me connect my RC remote to my PC via a USB cable and and I can either practice my RC plane or helicopter flying, Heck, I learned to fly RC helicopters using this RC flight sim. Learned the basics on the sim and practiced until I had it down before trying it in real time with my helo, saved me a lot of frustration.
ack-ack
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Actually, practicing on a PC does help improve one's RC flying using an RC flight sim program. The one I have lets me connect my RC remote to my PC via a USB cable and and I can either practice my RC plane or helicopter flying, Heck, I learned to fly RC helicopters using this RC flight sim. Learned the basics on the sim and practiced until I had it down before trying it in real time with my helo, saved me a lot of frustration.
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So you're saying you never had a hard landing or crashed your RC aircraft? I doubt it. The real life coordination does not translate to a pc game. It may be similar, but it will not be the same.
Same goes for flying. You will never get into a p-38 and fly it like a pro. If you get that oportunity, you will go through as many if not more practice landings as you would if you were trained by an instructor with no flight-sim time.
Ohh ohhkay Muzik...
Going by what you say, then THIS GAME WOULD NOT HELP ANYONE LEARN REAL DOGFIGHTING AT ALL either then?
Its just a game, has nothing in common with Real Life?!?! ;)
No Goofy, I didn't say anything about air combat, but since you asked, no. If you are suggesting that you can learn what ACM is and get a general idea of how they work, then you would be correct. If you think you could jump into a ww2 aircraft, even a simplified one, and dogfight against a pilot who flys them, you would not.
Flight simulators are great for many things. Many people have and still do learn the basics of flying, does that mean that they all are capable of flying real aircraft? No! I'll use the same example I used with akak, landings take motor skills and coordination that you will not get from a PC. They take practice.
There are some people that are naturally coordinated and it does not take them much to pick these skills up. Flight instructors see them occasionally and call them naturals.
A kid from my area stole several airplanes and when he was caught he told police he learned to fly on pc flight simulators. He crashed five airplanes. Obviously, not a natural.
So back to your contention, yes, if someone had zero knowledge of flying or RC airplanes they can learn the basics. And when they take their RC plane up for the first time, it's going to have the same fiery death it would if they had read a how to book first. It's just going to fumble around longer in the air if they use a PC sim first.
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No truer statement has ever been spoken!
JUGgler
It was a question, don't confuse the boy. I think I hurt my neck in that double take.
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So you're saying you never had a hard landing or crashed your RC aircraft? I doubt it. The real life coordination does not translate to a pc game. It may be similar, but it will not be the same.
Where did I say that? Surely not in any of my posts, I just said that using an RC flight sim can improve your RC flying skills and that's the simple truth.
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Where did I say that? Surely not in any of my posts, I just said that using an RC flight sim can improve your RC flying skills and that's the simple truth.
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Seems we're having a disagreement on a definition here. You say that you can improve your RC skills with a sim. I hear "you can improve your RC coordination with a sim." Seems to be one and same to me.
If it was true, you wouldn't have to have real life flight time to get a pilots license.
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Seems we're having a disagreement on a definition here. You say that you can improve your RC skills with a sim. I hear "you can improve your RC coordination with a sim." Seems to be one and same to me.
If it was true, you wouldn't have to have real life flight time to get a pilots license.
Mmmmmbecause RC flying and physically flying an airplane is no different (nor should the FAA see it so). Maybe 100 hrs RC flying can get us a pilot's license with that kind of 'logic.'
(If this is where the discussion is being sarcastically dragged then we may as well talk about 24 plane bomber formations in AHII.)
:lol
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Mmmmmbecause RC flying and physically flying an airplane is no different (nor should the FAA see it so). Maybe 100 hrs RC flying can get us a pilot's license with that kind of 'logic.'
(If this is where the discussion is being sarcastically dragged then we may as well talk about 24 plane bomber formations in AHII.)
:lol
I vote for in-cockpit beer dispensers, as well. :aok
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I vote for in-cockpit beer dispensers, as well. :aok
:D
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Seems we're having a disagreement on a definition here. You say that you can improve your RC skills with a sim. I hear "you can improve your RC coordination with a sim." Seems to be one and same to me.
If it was true, you wouldn't have to have real life flight time to get a pilots license.
I think you are misunderstanding the definitions of "improving one`s skill" and "RC coordination". Real aircraft simulators used in training are usually procedure trainers and they are not used to learn landing or taking off (except procedures of course). The main stress is different procedures themselves (abnormal, emergency, IFR approaches etc). A simulator often handles differently compared to a real aircraft, but the procedures are the same. For example one can even use the MS Flight simulator to practice general NDB approach procedures if there is a way to detect mistakes made.
Real RC models handle different than simulated ones, but simulators are used to practice eye-hand coordination. Improving one`s skill does not mean you become a pro eventually, but it helps to achieve and keep a certain level of proficiency. I know many RC flyers who used the sim to skip trainers and flew low wing aileron models successfully as their first RC model. Coordination and motor skills are a part of flying skill and in some situations your motor skills might actually be dangerous unless overcome by experience.
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I think you are misunderstanding the definitions of "improving one`s skill" and "RC coordination".
I don't believe I am and you did a pretty good job of proving my point.
Real aircraft simulators used in training are usually procedure trainers and they are not used to learn landing or taking off (except procedures of course).
That's what I just said.
I am well aware of what PC flight training is used for and it's strength is exactly what you said, procedural work. Those things that are almost exactly the same in the airplane as they are in a sim. IFR flight for example.
A simulator often handles differently compared to a real aircraft
And again you supported my statement
but the procedures are the same.
Procedures are not at issue here because as far as I am aware, there aren't really any procedures in flying RC.
Real RC models handle different than simulated ones
Hence, whatever motor-skill/coordination improvement you gain from flying a sim will not make you a better RC pilot, UNLESS you are referring to someone who had no experience with them what so ever. In that case, they will learn basic motor skills and could likely, NOT guaranteed, do better than if they started out flying the real thing.
Improving one`s skill does not mean you become a pro eventually,
Now we're getting somewhere. It wont make you a pro!? Why not? If it improves your skill, then why would it stop improving your skill at some arbitrary skill level?
but it helps to achieve and keep a certain level of proficiency.
In other words, it keeps you from forgetting the basics. But then again, all of this assumes you are using a remote control that resembles the same types you use to fly RC.
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Oh look, it's my pet third-ankle.
Mmmmmbecause RC flying and physically flying an airplane is no different
Smart as ever I see.
may as well talk about 24 plane bomber formations in AHII.
LOL still jealous about that?
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Oh look, it's my pet third-ankle.
Smart as ever I see.
LOL still jealous about that?
Myeah. Because stupid is something to be jealous of. :huh
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Myeah. Because stupid is something to be jealous of. :huh
lol, should I count how many times you've brought it up in a completely unrelated thread?
sit boy, sit.
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lol, should I count how many times you've brought it up in a completely unrelated thread?
sit boy, sit.
Held off quite awhile, actually. Logic isn't your forte. But yeah, you really are a waste of my (and most everyone else's) time. This really isn't for you. :)
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I am well aware of what PC flight training is used for and it's strength is exactly what you said, procedural work. Those things that are almost exactly the same in the airplane as they are in a sim. IFR flight for example.
Procedures are not at issue here because as far as I am aware, there aren't really any procedures in flying RC.
I agree but why did you say the following?
Seems we're having a disagreement on a definition here. You say that you can improve your RC skills with a sim. I hear "you can improve your RC coordination with a sim." Seems to be one and same to me.
If it was true, you wouldn't have to have real life flight time to get a pilots license.
I did not understand why you brought in the real life example above if you understand why they are used. That is why I wrote about the procedures and stuff. Real aircraft simulators are usually operated after the basic skills have been mastered. RC sim is used to learn the basic skills for people who have no previous experience as you stated too.
Now we're getting somewhere. It wont make you a pro!? Why not? If it improves your skill, then why would it stop improving your skill at some arbitrary skill level?
In other words, it keeps you from forgetting the basics. But then again, all of this assumes you are using a remote control that resembles the same types you use to fly RC.
The simulator improves one`s skill to a basic level. You already stated yourself why it does not make anyone a master at RC flying. Basic skill level is the arbitrary level and it is better than just reading a manual. Touching the remote and operating the controls make your reaction faster. Reading the manual gives understanding but you still have to think what stick to move for a necessary result. Simulator practice makes eye-hand coordination a lot faster. Besides complete beginners the simulators are useful for others too. One of the best F3A pilots in my country uses the sim from time to time to keep him forgetting the competition flight routine.
The simulator transmitter unit only has to be the same mode as the one used for real model flying. Other buttons are pretty irrelevant.
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I did not understand why you brought in the real life example above if you understand why they are used.
It's hard to tell for sure at this point, but either you haven't read the thread and are confused or you are just confused as to who said what.
One of us said that flying RC sims improves your skill. I am the other guy.
Sims give you a basic understanding, they do not make you even remotely proficient. That goes for real aircraft or RC. If they did, you could fly either one without incident the very first time with enough practice.
Basic skill level is the arbitrary level and it is better than just reading a manual.
You started to sound like you agreed with everything I already stated... that you stated... I already stated.... until you said that. :rolleyes:
"the manual comment..." If you took two people with roughly the same coordination and put one on an RC sim and gave the other a manual and a real RC aircraft... The guy with the manual will almost guaranteed crash the first day. Give the other guy a month to play that RC sim as much as he wanted, and he will STILL crash his first real RC a/c the first day.
The comment was slight hyperbole, but I'd put money on it...
Touching the remote and operating the controls make your reaction faster.
..."faster" at what? Flying a RC simulator, not a real RC because as you stated... that I stated...
...simulators used in training are usually procedure trainers and they are not used to learn landing or taking off
...Real RC models handle different than simulated ones
One of the best F3A pilots in my country uses the sim from time to time to keep him forgetting the competition flight routine.
This is a GREAT example... of procedural use. He's not using it to practice the hand eye coordination of his routine. He is using it to remember what turns to make and when.
The simulator transmitter unit only has to be the same mode as the one used for real model flying. Other buttons are pretty irrelevant.
:headscratch: This whole conversation is specifically about hand to eye coordination flying an RC and I never said anything about any buttons. Anyway, the point was, using the typical joystick for an RC sim, then going to a remote control and flying a real RC, would do zilch for your "RC skills." Which, by the way is what would happen if the OP got his wish.
Now, I'm going to bow out. I got nothing against RC guys, just wanted to say that I don't believe this is the place for such a feature unless AH had MA populations of 1k or more. Until that time, focus should be on adding features that support the core game.
Now I state what I already stated, that I will bow out, so you can restate what I already stated if you wish. :D
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How would you aim?
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Held off quite awhile, actually. Logic isn't your forte.
My logic got a lot closer to a workable idea than your AI army guys. lol
you really are a waste of my (and most everyone else's) time.
And yet every time I look down at my ankle, you're still there. And to show my appreciation for your ankle worship, one of these days I will do a BBS montage of all your ankle humping. It will be a hoot.
So until next time, keep it coming pic boy.
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And to show my appreciation for your ankle worship, one of these days I will do a BBS montage of all your ankle humping. It will be a hoot.
Now's a good time, if you really are up to it. :aok
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+1 :joystick: I have a R/C simulator transmitter from Hangar 9 that would work great for this wish.