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Title: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Wolfala on October 19, 2013, 08:55:49 AM
http://www.maxim.com/funny/three-bros-raise-money-breast-cancer-with-this-controversial-motorboating-video


Credit to those guys for a worthy cause. And the irony it's still less expensive then a weekend in NY
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: 68ZooM on October 19, 2013, 10:47:46 AM
Lol i didnt see one chick that didnt have a smile on or didnt enjoy it lol  brilliant.....
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: xbrit on October 19, 2013, 11:33:47 AM
Would like to see the lady from the "Turnaround" thread in this !!
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: pipz on October 19, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
Outstanding!
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: guncrasher on October 19, 2013, 01:12:50 PM
I told the police that I was just donating money for breast cancer research, apparently you cant do that at a massage parlor.



semp
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: saggs on October 19, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
So... what act will these ingenious philanthropists come up with to raise awareness and funding for colon cancer research?




Seriously this whole breast cancer awareness- make everything pink, 'I heart Boobies' sweaters, t-shirts, bracelets, energy drinks, etc.. is starting to get on my nerves.  Only because when it comes to cancer there are more dangerous and deadly cancers that don't get nearly as much attention simply because they aren't a sexy part of the female anatomy.

Maybe we need a colon cancer awareness campaign... with brown ribbons... and 'I heart Pooping' pants...
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2013, 07:44:25 AM
So... what act will these ingenious philanthropists come up with to raise awareness and funding for colon cancer research?




Seriously this whole breast cancer awareness- make everything pink, 'I heart Boobies' sweaters, t-shirts, bracelets, energy drinks, etc.. is starting to get on my nerves.  Only because when it comes to cancer there are more dangerous and deadly cancers that don't get nearly as much attention simply because they aren't a sexy part of the female anatomy.

Maybe we need a colon cancer awareness campaign... with brown ribbons... and 'I heart Pooping' pants...

I am a cancer survivor. So I am not at all insensitive when it comes to cancer causes. BUT

Until they show that the value of a mans life is equal to that of a woman and  donate as much attention to mens cancers who kill at least as as many men a year as women cancers kill women. You will never see me wear pink nor donate in any way shape or form to breast cancer awareness.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Curval on October 21, 2013, 07:49:54 AM
It is a great idea.  For it to be the best idea evar they needed to find a way for someone else to actually pay.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Curval on October 21, 2013, 07:51:44 AM
I am a cancer survivor. So I am not at all insensitive when it comes to cancer causes. BUT

Until they show that the value of a mans life is equal to that of a woman and  donate as much attention to mens cancers who kill at least as as many men a year as women cancers kill women. You will never see me wear pink nor donate in any way shape or form to breast cancer awareness.

I understand what you are saying, but DUDE, these are BOOBIES.  A man's life isn't worth squat without boobies to start out with. 
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2013, 07:54:57 AM
I understand what you are saying, but DUDE, these are BOOBIES.  A man's life isn't worth squat without boobies to start out with. 

And all the boobies in the world wont matter if your puking, to sick to do anything but lay there because you feel like a peice of stale wet cardboard from Chemotherapy, or dead
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: MiloMorai on October 21, 2013, 08:29:46 AM
I am a cancer survivor. So I am not at all insensitive when it comes to cancer causes. BUT

Until they show that the value of a mans life is equal to that of a woman and  donate as much attention to mens cancers who kill at least as as many men a year as women cancers kill women. You will never see me wear pink nor donate in any way shape or form to breast cancer awareness.

Here women get there boobies x-rayed for free but us guys have to pay for a colon test.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Curval on October 21, 2013, 08:32:41 AM
Ok, life is so very unfair to men and therefore we shouldn't donate to save boobies.  Gotcha.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: xbrit on October 21, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
My wife's got breast cancer so I guess I'm the odd one out.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2013, 09:37:11 AM
we should donate to cancer research after all it also helps men.  however I never participate in those "pink walk for the cure" scams.  as that's what they are, I also never buy products that make a lot of money and send a few pennies to cancer research.  and then again after all the billions of dollars we have donated if some company finds "a cure" guess what they own the patent and will make billions of dollars in profits.

so sometimes I wonder why we should donate money?.  the companies that sponsor the "walk for the cure" type and those that will send a few pennies if you buy their products make money, the company that finds a cure will make money even if they used money we donated.

but to be fair dredlock, I paid 30 bucks so have a colonoscopy done, they removed 2 nods that were pre-cancerous.  second time it happens in 15 years.  my gf also pays 30 bucks to have mammograms done.  I guess it all depends on your insurance.


semp
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Megalodon on October 21, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
 :lol "that dont look like no motaboat... tha look like a fn yacht" hahaha


Great Idea,
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
Ok, life is so very unfair to men and therefore we shouldn't donate to save boobies.  Gotcha.

I have no problems donating for cancer research in general. What I have a problem with is all the hoopla made for one specific type of cancer because it primarily effects one specific gender. In this case its sexist to the point where you might as well say a womans life is more valuable then a mans. And if you want to make a big deal over womans cancers. Fine. But if your going to do that. Then the same huge deal should be made over mens cancers as well. Particularly when they occur at roughly the same rate and have roughly the same mortality rate.

xbrit. Having been there I can certainly relate to your wife and the fear she feels.
By the same token. If it were you instead of her. Would she want any less attention paid to your cancer? Are you any less deserving to live?
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 21, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
we should donate to cancer research after all it also helps men.  however I never participate in those "pink walk for the cure" scams.  as that's what they are, I also never buy products that make a lot of money and send a few pennies to cancer research.  and then again after all the billions of dollars we have donated if some company finds "a cure" guess what they own the patent and will make billions of dollars in profits.

so sometimes I wonder why we should donate money?.  the companies that sponsor the "walk for the cure" type and those that will send a few pennies if you buy their products make money, the company that finds a cure will make money even if they used money we donated.

but to be fair dredlock, I paid 30 bucks so have a colonoscopy done, they removed 2 nods that were pre-cancerous.  second time it happens in 15 years.  my gf also pays 30 bucks to have mammograms done.  I guess it all depends on your insurance.


semp

Its not the matter of insurance. It the matter of the hoopla thats made for fund raising and awareness. sure you see some overtures mad to mens cancers. But in comparison to the whole pink thing. tharts all they are is overtures, And done nowhere near to the same scope or scale
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: JOACH1M on October 21, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
The money they raised wasn't accepted by the organization. Sadly but they are trying to find a foundation that will.


Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: mthrockmor on October 21, 2013, 10:41:21 AM
My wife did not think that was funny. And sadly, I cannot help raise money next year either. I do want to nominate these guys for the Nobel Prize in Peace. Brilliance cannot go without acknowledgement.

Boo
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2013, 11:08:56 AM
Its not the matter of insurance. It the matter of the hoopla thats made for fund raising and awareness. sure you see some overtures mad to mens cancers. But in comparison to the whole pink thing. tharts all they are is overtures, And done nowhere near to the same scope or scale

the whole pink thing is a scam.  companies sponsoring this events do it because it brings them a lot of money.  for example look at this sponsor

https://savelidstosavelives.com/desktop/

you save the lid of each yoplait yougur and they send 10 cents to "susan g komen" foundation.  so let's say you buy 10 and spend 9 dollars and the foundation gets 1 dollar.  wouldnt it be better if you wrote a check and got rid of the scam as gen mills is making millions just by being "sponsors"


semp
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Curval on October 21, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Dred, nobody has many any sudden rules that says donate to this cancer research or that cancer research.

In this case a bunch of women got togther and started a movement about an issue that directly affects them.  They were very sucessful and now large corporations are involved and they have raised a large amount of awareness about the disease.

You are perfectly able to do the same, it is a free country.  No one is forcing you to donate anything but equally noone is saying men's issues are less than women's...the women just got off their backsides and did something.

Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Nwbie on October 21, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121186911550?lpid=82 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121186911550?lpid=82)

Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2013, 06:33:23 PM
how companies make money out of people's misery and how it got started.   it's good for marketing and the bottom line for some companies as it adds hundreds of millions of dollars, some brilliant marketting strategy if you ask me and the costs are minimal.  you could have saved yourself a lot of money and perhaps donate more if you just wrote a check to a charity instead of buying some stuff just because "a portion" goes to charity.  the "walk for the cure" is a prime example of how corporate sponsors make a ton of money off of people's good will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_marketing


semp
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: morfiend on October 23, 2013, 04:09:08 PM
 I heard today that the donation money wasn't excepted and the check was returned.

   Supposedly, the cancer society didn't approve of the method and got several complaints..... :rolleyes:

  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it!  My wife is a survivor and I told her of the story,showed her the vid and she laughed and said good for them!

  Today we both heard that the donation was returned and she was thoroughly disgusted that the cancer society would do such a thing. Granted it was an unusual approach to raising funds but I didn't see any objections,of course I know they wouldn't show the women who said NO but the ones who agreed did so only because of the cause.....The women who allowed it must be upset and rightfully so!


   I just don't get it these days......          Hey get off my lawn!!! :furious





    :salute
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: JOACH1M on October 23, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
The money they raised wasn't accepted by the organization. Sadly but they are trying to find a foundation that will.



I heard today that the donation money wasn't excepted and the check was returned.

   Supposedly, the cancer society didn't approve of the method and got several complaints..... :rolleyes:

  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it!  My wife is a survivor and I told her of the story,showed her the vid and she laughed and said good for them!

  Today we both heard that the donation was returned and she was thoroughly disgusted that the cancer society would do such a thing. Granted it was an unusual approach to raising funds but I didn't see any objections,of course I know they wouldn't show the women who said NO but the ones who agreed did so only because of the cause.....The women who allowed it must be upset and rightfully so!


   I just don't get it these days......          Hey get off my lawn!!! :furious





    :salute
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: AAJagerX on October 24, 2013, 12:15:03 AM
My grandmother (Byte's mother) died on the 10th of this month from a rare form of cancer.  It doesn't have to be breast cancer, and I could care less how the money gets there to find new ways to stop the disease.  The most caring person I've ever known was ravaged by something that she didn't deserve.  Do what you can, and if you can't do anything monetarily, just be there for the people that are dealing with this.  It's heartbreaking, awful, unfair, but it's reality.  Even just volunteering at a hospice and giving someone a hug makes a difference.  Our hospice nurse was an angel, and made this situation much more manageable for the entire family. 
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: greens on October 24, 2013, 12:42:11 AM
Breast cancer is something a woman should never have to go through  no woman
As for men it can happen to them as well, any type of cancer is not anything to make fun about. Comparing cancers and comparing moneywise is total waste of time. And i pray noone gets it enemy or not.
My wife is a breast cancer survivor.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: B3YT on October 24, 2013, 07:58:04 AM
The problem is the disproportionate money sent to breast cancer charities. My grand mother died of breast cancer and it sucks . But Prostate cancer in the US alone effects as many men as breast cancer but receives only 10% of the funding . This means that there is almost no national screening programs for a cancer that can quickly spread to the colon , stomach , testicles and rectum .  It can quickly change from a type 1 cancer (easier to treat and have a 70% chance of living longer  than 5 years ) to a type 4 (less than 30% chance of living 18 months) . Yet it's poo pooed by feminists , general public as a minor thing . 

The same can be said of cervical cancer . While only one type of cancer gets the lime light overs others that  have a very fast effect on peoples well being many sufferers will be denied treatment that they deserve as human beings .  It's the same reason I've always hated Livestrong foundation. 
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Slate on October 24, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
   Charities are Big Business and take in loads of cash. Less so in economic downturns but still on average only 10% goes to the actual cause. The rest to administrative fees.  :rolleyes:

   I don't trust the Red Cross after they sought ( and advertised) donations for 911 victims only to announce they will do what they want with the billions they gathered.

   There are very few that give all the money away having staff that donates their time.  :aok
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Lusche on October 24, 2013, 09:04:36 AM
  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it! 


Still could have been a lot of women refusing that lil stunt and/or complaining, they just didn't show them. ;)
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: Triton28 on October 24, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
The fact is, the breast is more marketable and easier to talk about then the testicles, ovaries, or the colon.  I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.  Women have breasts, and talk about theirs with other women.  Men like breasts, and talk about how much they like them with other men. 

I cannot imagine beating __________ cancer and then thrashing my mom because she's a breast cancer survivor and her form of cancer is more popular than mine.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: flight17 on October 25, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
I lost my ipad, so I have not been on for like a week and this is my first time back since that post...

I love how my post with the video was deleted from the thread... It is amazing that People both complained here and at the Breast Cancer Awareness Organization. They just turned away a check, but yet they want money, WTF? What about all millions of kissing and hug booths that have been set up and raised money for various causes? Why has no one made a big deal out of that?!?! Especially since most of the time, its woman that are selling the kisses!

Its not like they went up to random people and just motorboated them without asking. Im sure every single on of those woman agreed to it, otherwise, they would have been in jail by now.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: morfiend on October 25, 2013, 05:25:11 PM

Still could have been a lot of women refusing that lil stunt and/or complaining, they just didn't show them. ;)


  I agree Lusche,I think I stated that also! Joach1m I know they are looking for another charity,it wasn't my point. I think the guys came up with an unusual approach to raise funds,was it PC or not,who the F cares! These guys did something for the overall good and it got poopoo'd on because it was seen as demeaning to women.


   Like I said.......   Get off my lawn!!   maybe I'm just an old crusty guy but I think their reasoning is a bit ridicules.


   :salute
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: 68ZooM on October 25, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
I heard next month there going to be a motor boating for testicular cancer :uhoh
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: flight17 on October 25, 2013, 07:35:46 PM
I heard next month there going to be a motor boating for testicular cancer :uhoh
People asking if they would do it for men's testicular cancer are forgetting one key difference. It is men helping a Woman's cause, not three Woman helping a Woman's cause.

Therefore, If Woman want to help a male cause by motor boating males' testicles, then only that would be an equal comparison for a male cause...  :bolt:


Still could have been a lot of women refusing that lil stunt and/or complaining, they just didn't show them. ;)
And that is perfectly fine. Its not like they forced these woman into letting them do it.

The videos can no longer even be seen now on youtube...
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: colmbo on October 25, 2013, 07:42:07 PM
My wife's got breast cancer so I guess I'm the odd one out.

Men get breast cancer as well.  At work we just had "Breastaville", yeah a lot of hoopla pointed at one specific cancer but I figure research into any cancer can provide good information about cancer to all cancer victims.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 25, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
I am a cancer survivor. So I am not at all insensitive when it comes to cancer causes. BUT

Until they show that the value of a mans life is equal to that of a woman and  donate as much attention to mens cancers who kill at least as as many men a year as women cancers kill women. You will never see me wear pink nor donate in any way shape or form to breast cancer awareness.

Sorry bro, I'm not motor boatin' your apple.  I bet Midway would though.
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 26, 2013, 09:33:14 AM
The problem is the disproportionate money sent to breast cancer charities. My grand mother died of breast cancer and it sucks . But Prostate cancer in the US alone effects as many men as breast cancer but receives only 10% of the funding . This means that there is almost no national screening programs for a cancer that can quickly spread to the colon , stomach , testicles and rectum .  It can quickly change from a type 1 cancer (easier to treat and have a 70% chance of living longer  than 5 years ) to a type 4 (less than 30% chance of living 18 months) . Yet it's poo pooed by feminists , general public as a minor thing . 

The same can be said of cervical cancer . While only one type of cancer gets the lime light overs others that  have a very fast effect on peoples well being many sufferers will be denied treatment that they deserve as human beings .  It's the same reason I've always hated Livestrong foundation. 

Bingo!

This is the point. and like I said I'm not at all insensitive to people wish breast or any other kind of cancer. I myself am a survivor Next month it will be 20 years from my diagnosis and in June it will be 20 years from my last treatment. And to this day there are certain smells particularly certain perfumes that have the ability to make me sick to my stomach.. So its not like the passage of time has lessened my memory of the experience which can best be described as pure terror.

My grandmother had breast cancer and currently a friend of the family has been diagnosed with breast cancer.

My mother in law died from bladder cancer, My father in law was diegnosed and successfully treated for colon cancer


I have no problem donating for cancer and do so myself. What I have the problem with is the hoopla thats made for certain cancers but not for others that have basically the same mortality rate for no other real reason then because one is sexy and the other one isnt.

Triton. You are absolutely correct when you say "The fact is, the breast is more marketable and easier to talk about then the testicles, ovaries, or the colon."  Does that mean it shouldn't be?  Is that the excuse a wife or a child or a father and mother should be given when they look into their husbands or fathers or sons casket? "It wasnt marketable enough. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is."?


Im not thrashing anyone with cancer. In fact I look upon anyone who has or had had cancer almost like part of the family because we all share something in common that those who havent experienced it could never hope ot understand. Kinda like combat. Unless you've personally experienced it. You dont get it.

Let me ask you(anyone). Who's life is more important to you? Your mothers or your fathers? Your sons or your daughters?
Do they not share equal value?

Would you be more readily willing to sacrifice one over the other to diseases that have the same rate of diagnosis and mortality  because one is more marketable then the other? Because one is a male and the other female? Because her breasts are prettier to look at then his testicles. Because men should simply accept death or we should accept the death of men more so then women because its the manly thing to do?

Because that is essentially what you're doing and tolerating

(yes I know men get breast cancer too. But it its still essentially a woman's disease)
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: DubiousKB on October 30, 2013, 05:00:25 PM
I laughed so hard every time a lady/girl tried to hold in her gitty laughter...  You know it's goofy, go ahead, laugh!
Title: Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
Post by: SilverZ06 on October 31, 2013, 08:04:38 AM
In case you aren't aware, you can use www.guidestar.org to look at different charity's tax forms. The small percentage of funds that actually go towards the particular causes is appalling.