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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: SirNuke on October 25, 2013, 01:42:57 AM
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Damn that looks like a nice card...better than I expected....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review
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You should have read a little further. Those cards have some rather serious issues, even if it is only for the moment.
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You should have read a little further. Those cards have some rather serious issues, even if it is only for the moment.
Issues like? From a quick glance it seems they're a bit power hungry and moderately noisy due to cooling requirements. That's going to change quickly with OEMs developing their own cooling solutions as usual.
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You should have read a little further. Those cards have some rather serious issues, even if it is only for the moment.
Links? On another forum I've been arguing that they were over-hyped, and I would love some more ammunition.
In all honesty it looks like an excellent video card, even better when price is considered. The forum I was posting on is filled with insufferable AMD fanboys claiming Nvidia is going to go bankrupt and similar nonsense, so I couldn't leave them with the impression that everyone on the forum shared their opinion.
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Links? On another forum I've been arguing that they were over-hyped, and I would love some more ammunition.
In all honesty it looks like an excellent video card, even better when price is considered. The forum I was posting on is filled with insufferable AMD fanboys claiming Nvidia is going to go bankrupt and similar nonsense, so I couldn't leave them with the impression that everyone on the forum shared their opinion.
i'm an amd fanboy (for now) but i'm not stupid enough to say something as ridiculous as that. you should be flaming the idiots hard.
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i'm an amd fanboy (for now) but i'm not stupid enough to say something as ridiculous as that. you should be flaming the idiots hard.
Yep Nvidia has been milking huge margins of its products for a decade when AMD hasn't been able to compete properly.
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AMD for 10 years now and don't plan to change unless AMDs no longer available. So must be AMD fanboy here :rock
I've been very pleased with AMD video cards. Currently running AH with 7750 1360x768 single monitor at 50-60 fps, full AA, full up in-game settings less "in-flight clutter" and the advanced update slider is set to "none". No overclocking.
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AMD for 10 years now and don't plan to change unless AMDs no longer available. So must be AMD fanboy here :rock
I've been very pleased with AMD video cards. Currently running AH with 7750 1360x768 single monitor at 50-60 fps, full AA, full up in-game settings less "in-flight clutter" and the advanced update slider is set to "none". No overclocking.
you are missing a lot. but it's cool if you are happy.
semp
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you are missing a lot. but it's cool if you are happy.
semp
:rofl semp, sometimes you crack me up.
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Links? On another forum I've been arguing that they were over-hyped, and I would love some more ammunition.
In all honesty it looks like an excellent video card, even better when price is considered. The forum I was posting on is filled with insufferable AMD fanboys claiming Nvidia is going to go bankrupt and similar nonsense, so I couldn't leave them with the impression that everyone on the forum shared their opinion.
The same issues that plagued the Fermi chipset are now mounted upon the 290X. Somehow the dire warnings we received about the GTX 480 are now 'moderate' (Ripley's choice of words) with the 290X. That doesn't bother me as much as the word on Crossfire issues, like the primary video buffer refresh fails, and the forced adaptive Vsync rate (probably to avoid an issue with the premature drivers).
They will get that all sorted out just as Nvidia releases their next card, probably.
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The same issues that plagued the Fermi chipset are now mounted upon the 290X. Somehow the dire warnings we received about the GTX 480 are now 'moderate' (Ripley's choice of words) with the 290X. That doesn't bother me as much as the word on Crossfire issues, like the primary video buffer refresh fails, and the forced adaptive Vsync rate (probably to avoid an issue with the premature drivers).
They will get that all sorted out just as Nvidia releases their next card, probably.
Again, links? If I resort to linking them to your post as evidence of "the truth", then I'll be no better than they are in their responses to me. I need evidence.
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My Geforce GTX 680 broke after 6 months of AH and ROF :old:
2K gaming rig, the shop changed it sharpish :old:
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I think challenge is uncomfortable with the 95°C temperature under load.
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My 6870 hit 90C+ regularly during the summer months, I've had it for 2 years now. No problems whatsoever with 3+ hours of constant usage almost every other day. Now that it's getting colder, highest temp last I checked was about 85C. 95C is only worrisome if your card is older than 5 years. These newer cards are built solid as hell.
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Im afraid, someone is getting paid by the nvidia ;)
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LOL! http://news.techeye.net/chips/amd-declares-all-out-war-on-nvidia
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LOL! http://news.techeye.net/chips/amd-declares-all-out-war-on-nvidia
:rofl :lol :rofl :lol that is hilarious!!!
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The same issues that plagued the Fermi chipset are now mounted upon the 290X. Somehow the dire warnings we received about the GTX 480 are now 'moderate' (Ripley's choice of words) with the 290X. That doesn't bother me as much as the word on Crossfire issues, like the primary video buffer refresh fails, and the forced adaptive Vsync rate (probably to avoid an issue with the premature drivers).
They will get that all sorted out just as Nvidia releases their next card, probably.
Who cares about premature drivers of crossfire when 1) AMD is back into the competition 2) 290X gives far better bang for buck than its competition at the moment. For most users a single card is more than enough.
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Nvidia price drops announced to counter the 290X:
http://hardocp.com/news/2013/10/28/big_price_cuts_for_geforce_gtx_780_770_tomorrow_ti_coming_117
GTX 780: $499
GTX 770: $329
That is pretty huge. I think Mantle will likely be one of those things that never comes to fruition for more than a few PC games, but G-Sync will be hugely important. I'm going to stick to Nvidia. I don't need to upgrade until at least the next generation (I have a GTX680 w/ 4GB), so this doesn't affect me, but some AMD fanbois on the other forum were saying it was impossible for Nvidia to lower their prices on the Titan-based parts. Which is, of course, ridiculous. Another point I was proven to be right about.
Chalenge, still waiting on those links.
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but which gtx 770. look at newegg there have several with prices ranging from 329 to 629.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%2050001402%20600451269%20600451260&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20770
semp
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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My apologies for not answering sooner. I have made no secret of the fact that I am seeking a technology degree and raising a family, both of which are limiting my time greatly.
To see my reasoning for downplaying the 290x performance you really need to read the Anandtech review a little more closely than you have. Then add a heap of insight that most of you almost never seem to use (even though I know you can get there) in order to reach what I am posting now. The Nvidia cards are still winning out on the games intended for mainstream users, because those users are not trying to push 4k resolutions out of their systems. Most of the AH user base would be ill-advised to jump to this card for the very reason that HTC still supports older systems (i.e. your system will not handle it gracefully). Without more cooling and new PSUs the majority of users will likely damage their PCs without even knowing it. If you have ever listened to anything I have said about PSUs then you already know why.
Regardless, after reading this morning that Nvidia had cut prices (a move you should have known they would make) the choice is even more clear. AMD fans will stick to their cards (and will probably not buy a 290x anyway) and Nvidia fans will probably pick up a second card for SLI (why wouldn't they?). AMD provides a fair market option to people that do not want to spend the money it takes to own Intel, or Nvidia. Even for those people that own Intel and usually run AMD video will not own a 290x, because the advantage their card has is in 4k resolutions which is something almost no one is doing yet.
If you run 4k then post up some video, or benchmarks. I've been asking for a little while now.
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I have a 680 and got a decent psu so when prices come down i would get a second card :old:
To be honest I dont think i need a second card :)
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Chalenge, that still doesn't provide any examples of "serious problems" with the 290X. Its just your opinion (man). Nothing I can use. I've read Anandtech's article, and a number of others, and I'm not seeing it.
I agree with the 4k thing, and I've said as much, if not here then elsewhere (http://forums.starcitizenbase.com/topic/3971-origin-pc-drops-amd-graphics-option). People don't game (serious games, not Farmville or Minecraft) at that resolution, so performance at that resolution doesn't matter. Been said already, everyone agrees, moving on. The 290X still beats the GTX 780 in performance (but no longer price) at 1080p. Where's the serious issues?
Edit: I wasn't going to even acknowledge this, but I feel I should. Your power supply reason is a bunch of FUD at best. Video cards have been drawing roughly the same amount of power for a long time now, the 290X isn't appreciably worse than anything else. The idea that it will make a bunch of people's computers break any more than any similarly priced video card is a bunch of crap that is barely even worth refuting. Yes, if you get a video card that draws more power, you might need a new power supply. Boring, old argument not specific to the 290X.
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not anymore than you got milked getting your laptop after a few months it goes on clearance.
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Not really. Unlike with GPUs laptops actually have competition. Milking = being able to price the products with premium due to no competition.
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Lets test those cards in 640x480 so the 780's win would be even cleaner :rock
Honestly, for full-HD, a gtx 760 or a 270x is more than enough. Theese monsters (Titan, 780, 290x) are that powerful for the nowadays games, that they can run them on 3 monitors withouth serious issues. Its damn pointless to argue about it is the 780 or the 290 being better for mainstream users - they are not mainstream products. Otherwise isnt it equal if the said game is running at 150 or 160 fps in full-HD?
The titan and the 290 are pretty much the same performance-wise, but the 290 is cheaper. Its not a choice. The 780 is a bit slower than the 290, for about the same price, but the differences are minimal. The only drastical advantage the 290 has over the 780, the computational performance. Ergo, if youre using serious rendering softwares, the 290 is your choice, if not, you basically cannot go wrong...
...except spending 500$ on a damned video card :lol
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Multi-monitor computer owners have been playing at near, or higher, than 4K resolutions for more than a couple of years now. 4K is 3840x2160 (8,294,400) pixels. A decent 3 IPS monitor setup is 7680x1600 (12,288,000) pixels. A decent HD 3 monitor setup is slightly less at 5760x1200 (6,912,000) pixels.
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Not really. Unlike with GPUs laptops actually have competition. Milking = being able to price the products with premium due to no competition.
wow did amd just started selling video cards today? did the many companies that sell nvidia products all had the same price?
semp
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wow did amd just started selling video cards today? did the many companies that sell nvidia products all had the same price?
semp
Yep AMD just started selling its first competitive products for higher end class for the first time in many years. :bhead
Or did you miss the instant price drops that resulted from it? :huh
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Yep AMD just started selling its first competitive products for higher end class for the first time in many years. :bhead
Or did you miss the instant price drops that resulted from it? :huh
nvidia drops prices this time of year anyway.
semp
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I doubt more than a dozen people in AH run three monitors. Probably the number is closer to three, or four.
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I doubt more than a dozen people in AH run three monitors. Probably the number is closer to three, or four.
i wouldn't do too much doubting on that. triple monitors with trackir works well.
Yep AMD just started selling its first competitive products for higher end class for the first time in many years. :bhead
didn't that actually happen 4 years ago? ati/amd has had triple monitor single card support longer than nvidia. for $100 less a person can get same power as a geforce gtx770.
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I doubt more than a dozen people in AH run three monitors. Probably the number is closer to three, or four.
fulcrum, lawndart and me. no way we are the only ones.
semp
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What kind of video card setups do you use? SLI or Crossfire, or single card? And which ones?
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I used 3 screens for over a year until very recently.
Asus 144 hz 24" VG248QE, which were pretty much the best TN panel you could get for gaming under 27", especially for FPS games. I just didn't have the space or the proper stand/mount for 27" at the time. I ran 680 4gb FTW+ in SLI on a 3930k CPU system. I usually kept my FPS at 143/max unless I turned the environmental reflection setting higher than 2/3 - the top two notches really smoke the FPS performance.
Now I'm using a 27" Asus IPS 1440P panel. I'm driving it with a 4930k and an eVGA 780 Superclock card which is overclocked a bit, and it's performs nearly the same as my Titan video card I tried earlier, for about 300$ less as well. The 4930k isn't much, if at all faster than the 3930k chip IMO for games, but it was only 10$ more than a 3930k CPU now, so wth. I get max FPS with the same max settings with reflections on 2/3 or so, always at 60 in AH. I'm just trying to find a desk and mount to add the other 2 IPS panels, as my older 24" set up just barely fit, so it's either a new room for the setup (wife ack extreme, like 100 88 guns and 1000 37mm at once), or moving some other stuff out of current room, and buying a new larger desk (wife ack again as current 2000$ desk was xmas present from her). I'll figure something out before xmas, and have 3 IPS 27" running, and will probably need to add another 780 card possibly, we'll see how the single one performs first.
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Turns out the R9 290x Slayed the almighty Titan!
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169402-to-slay-a-titan-amds-radeon-r9-290x-piledrives-nvidias-high-end-product-line
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I have sli evga 465 on 3 23 in monitors at 1920x1080 each. get everything on except em at 60 fps with shadows at 4096 but I only use 2048 as I cant really tell the difference. thinking of getting rid of the 2 465's and getting a single card perhaps at 770 when they lower prices even more next month.
semp
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I doubt more than a dozen people in AH run three monitors. Probably the number is closer to three, or four.
And you would miss the mark by a huge percentage. At last count it was around 19%.
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At last count it was around 19%.
wow.
By the way, how do you know it?
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wow.
By the way, how do you know it?
they divided the total number of player by those players with 3 monitors. the answer was .19.
semp
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they divided the total number of player by those players with 3 monitors. the answer was .19.
semp
Awesome explanation. Please save me from theese in the future.
Im waiting on Skuzzy's answer, how could someone know, who is playing on a 3-way system and who isnt.
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Awesome explanation. Please save me from theese in the future.
Im waiting on Skuzzy's answer, how could someone know, who is playing on a 3-way system and who isnt.
because they asked politely some time ago if they could have that info. then it was just a simple division.
semp
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maybe they compile the dxdiag's we send them ? :angel:
that could tell them if we have multiple monitors, but not if we use them all for AH
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k1KLrMslO6g/UCo5z9J6fDI/AAAAAAAAFWI/1HVb3jbJmQM/w1212-h909-no/IMG_20120814_000442.jpg)
I'm considering picking a R290 on credit :noid
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And you would miss the mark by a huge percentage. At last count it was around 19%.
So in other words. . . sixty players? hehe
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Turns out the R9 290x Slayed the almighty Titan!
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169402-to-slay-a-titan-amds-radeon-r9-290x-piledrives-nvidias-high-end-product-line
Now I suspect extremetech is fudging the numbers. Almost no one agrees with their results at 1080p res. And of course, you have to take note of their dropping the Geforce results from the Unigine test. I smell an embargo of reviews that might have anything negative to report.
Nvidia still holds the crown for most powerful. Maximus will never be defeated by AMD.
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So in other words. . . sixty players? hehe
Nice low blow.
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Nice to see AMD coming out with some new nice cards. Keeps the competition going the prices down for consumers. Now if AMD could make a super CPU to push Intel, go AMD go.
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nvidia drops prices this time of year anyway.
semp
LOL keep hiding your head in the bush.
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Ripley, every time either manufacturer introduces a new card it takes the lead (or should). I don't think the meager advances this R9 card made quite makes the level of "Slays" or "Trounces" or any other adjective you choose. AMD caught up, which they should have done much sooner. If you choose to characterize this as a "lead" then they have it for now. Let's see them hold on to it. That will be good for AMD users, but I don't think anyone is going to drop their plans for a big Christmas and run out to buy a 290X.
Especially folks that can't afford a UPS.
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LOL keep hiding your head in the bush.
well considering that you dont live here and I always look for vc deals around this time of year... remember earlier this year when you said win7 was getting harder to find too?
semp
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Nice low blow.
I don't like it anymore than anyone else playing this game, but that's what I see. Of course, only HTC knows what their subscriptions are like.
I see reports out of the ESA indicating the trend of gamers is going more casual, and I want to see changes made to reflect that and improve the numbers. But, what can users do?
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Ripley, every time either manufacturer introduces a new card it takes the lead (or should). I don't think the meager advances this R9 card made quite makes the level of "Slays" or "Trounces" or any other adjective you choose. AMD caught up, which they should have done much sooner. If you choose to characterize this as a "lead" then they have it for now. Let's see them hold on to it. That will be good for AMD users, but I don't think anyone is going to drop their plans for a big Christmas and run out to buy a 290X.
Especially folks that can't afford a UPS.
You're wrong. AMD can provide far more bang for buck in the high-end category now so it will take a sizeable cut from Nvidias sales for sure.
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well considering that you dont live here and I always look for vc deals around this time of year... remember earlier this year when you said win7 was getting harder to find too?
semp
Yeah I remember saying brick&mortar stores and you pointed out the best known brick&mortar store, Amazon :x
You can twist it any way you like in your nvidia colored world, doesn't really change anything.
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So which is better AMD or NVIDIA :old:
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So which is better AMD or NVIDIA :old:
Which ever gives you better value for your money. Nvidia has been able to price their higher end products with a hefty premium because AMD hasn't been able to provide a competing product. Things have now changed in AMDs favor especially considering the pricing value.
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Yeah I remember saying brick&mortar stores and you pointed out the best known brick&mortar store, Amazon :x
You can twist it any way you like in your nvidia colored world, doesn't really change anything.
wrong I said newegg. and the brick and mortar store is about 30 miles from where I live. I order then go pick it up there. btw bestbuy and fry's the two major stores closer to me also sell win7 at about 100 bucks. same as newegg and amazon. and if I order from newegg by 12 pm, i can pick it up that afternoon if they have it in stock.
see the problem is you dont live the usa and try to make comments based on what you see around you on the other side of the world (almost).
it's been a known fact that nvidia lowers their prices just around this time due to the holidays being just around the corner and not just because amd released a top vc.
semp
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You're wrong. AMD can provide far more bang for buck in the high-end category now so it will take a sizeable cut from Nvidias sales for sure.
Not as sure. Where i live, the 780 is a bit cheaper than the 290 (after the price drop), yet its also a bit slower. The Titan is not a match, thats an overprized monster from the past. Also, atm, i would choose the 780 because of the very poor stock cooling on the 290.
Will be interesting, how much quicker the 290 will get with some custom radiators or water cooling fitted on it (i suppose you know how the boost system works on it), also how the 780Ti will perform and will be priced.
Anyways, its pointless trying to talk normally to blind fanboys - just like fighting a drugged berserker. See, semp have choosed the 465 too, what was the worst buy at its time, even more, he SLI-ed them...
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See, semp have choosed the 465 too, what was the worst buy at its time, even more, he SLI-ed them...
and yet i can have 3 monitors with full fps at 1920x1080 each. with shadows at 4096. no em. the second 465 cost me 120 bucks shipped. the first one was about 260.
semp
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and yet i can have 3 monitors with full fps at 1920x1080 each. with shadows at 4096. no em. the second 465 cost me 120 bucks shipped. the first one was about 260.
semp
And how much was a 5850 at the time you got the first 465? ;)
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wrong I said newegg. and the brick and mortar store is about 30 miles from where I live. I order then go pick it up there.
So as you admitted it's off the shelves. End of story.
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Awesome explanation. Please save me from theese in the future.
Im waiting on Skuzzy's answer, how could someone know, who is playing on a 3-way system and who isnt.
The game asks players if it is ok to send in the hardware info about the computer. Nothing nefarious about it. It is the player choice.
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The game asks players if it is ok to send in the hardware info about the computer. Nothing nefarious about it. It is the player choice.
Wasnt suspicious at all, just forgot about that in-game question. Im sorry if i sounded otherwise - blame my poor english.
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And how much was a 5850 at the time you got the first 465? ;)
dont know, I dont really care much for amd. at the time when I got the 465, there was still that discussion about amd not playing nice with aces high and amd worked better with amd cpu and mobo.
So as you admitted it's off the shelves. End of story.
it is still in the shelves and selling. I can drive about 6 miles from my house and buy a copy if I needed one. well not right now since it's 8:20 and the store doesnt open until 10 am or I can order from newegg this morning and pick it up after 3 pm if I wasnt working since the will-call store is near where my kids live.
semp
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I would wait for other vendors to exploit AMD reference designed board with better cooled board, its just a matter of time.
Swedish testers @ sweclockers thought it was a nice board with good value, with the exception of 2 things: cooling and the quiet option that reduced the frame-rates by 10%.
They recommend buyers to wait for better cooling and stay away from the quiet option.
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Now that Nvidia has been forced to lower prices, both AMD and Nvidia are equal (IMO) on a price performance basis pretty much from top to bottom in their respective lineups (Titan doesn't count, its for researchers, not for gamers, not any more anyways).
So looking at beyond price and performance, Nvidia now has the better bundles if that matters to you (it doesn't matter to me, I don't care about those games). And then there's the future promised features, the only important ones being Mantle and G-Sync. I am a complete skeptic on Mantle, I think it'll be the next Glide, and unlikely that it will result in any meaningful difference in any game I'm going to play. But G-Sync will be awesome for every single game no matter who makes it. I'm betting on G-Sync, and if I were to upgrade my video card today, I would choose Nvidia, no question about it. Its a trump card for Nvidia and you can't even argue that their cards are overpriced any more, the decision is easy.
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I think researchers are using Quadro cards and Kepler based secondary accelerators, like the Tesla K20 (in other words, Maximus). Next gen game developers and movie makers do also. I don't think AMD even has a pony in that race.
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I think researchers are using Quadro cards and Kepler based secondary accelerators, like the Tesla K20 (in other words, Maximus). Next gen game developers and movie makers do also. I don't think AMD even has a pony in that race.
Yep, that's why Nvidia can continue to overprice those products freely.
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dont know, I dont really care much for amd. at the time when I got the 465, there was still that discussion about amd not playing nice with aces high and amd worked better with amd cpu and mobo.
True, since the C2D era, the AMD CPUs are clearly inferior. But but but.... its about GPUs... Intel =/= NVidia... The statement that an AMD GPU will work better with an AMD CPU is utter BS.
Youre the victim of the manipulation.
This is coming from an AMD fanboi who is just building an i5 2500K - 560Ti system for his brother (el cheapo yet fast products) :lol
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True, since the C2D era, the AMD CPUs are clearly inferior. But but but.... its about GPUs... Intel =/= NVidia... The statement that an AMD GPU will work better with an AMD CPU is utter BS.
Youre the victim of the manipulation.
This is coming from an AMD fanboi who is just building an i5 2500K - 560Ti system for his brother (el cheapo yet fast products) :lol
this is coming from el cheapoeast who's built a 2500k 2 years ago and bought a 3rd monitor buy refilling water bottles at home. no amd, as based on the info I had available at the time, nvidia was better. not saying I am right or wrong, but just saying based on the info I had at the time, i felt nvidia was better.
would I buy amd today? nope, nvidia has served me well and hasnt failed me yet. now if you are talking about me buying evga? depends on the price now as evga changed their warranty and that's the reason I paid extra for it.
semp
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This just in: AMD's Radeon R9 290 (no X) is out now, at $399 with Titan-like performance just below that of the 290X.
This is where the best bang per buck is at the moment, no doubt about it. I like Nvidia, but AMD just knocked one out of the park based on the price/performance:
http://hardocp.com/article/2013/11/04/amd_radeon_r9_290_video_card_review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/the-amd-radeon-r9-290-review
Titan performance at 40% of the price. That's a hell of a thing. The GTX780 all of the sudden looks very overpriced and if you get anything but AMD from $299 to $599, you're doing it wrong, or you really really want G-Sync. I'm not looking to upgrade now, but if I was, the 290 would be very tempting.
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I read reports saying that the retail 290's perform less than the review cards :noid:
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I read reports saying that the retail 290's perform less than the review cards :noid:
I dont think that there is any difference between the chips. Most of the tests are made on a test pad, not in an actual case. In a product what is running really hot and has a BIOS that reduces the frequency when its overheating, putting it into a closed case really can hurt the performance.
The factory cooling on theese chips is just rubbish, really holding this, otherwise great product back. Im expecting an 5-10% performance gain on the 290x with some decent radiator applicated on it.
A non-reference cooled 290x vs the 780ti, now thats the match :aok Wondering how it is going to drop the prices, too. 290x for like 500, 780ti with about the same performance for 500, 780 for 450, and so...
yeah, i know, i just keep dreaming :rofl
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so what is the nerd bottom line then?
worth it or not? Zack can you buy one and send me your old card? :D
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I'd wait for the non reference cards, like an ASUS direct CU 290. I think we'll see great cards with that chip.
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Stock 290s perform exactly as the one's sent for testing by test-sites, in the silent mode they have slight lower performance.
Swedish site sweclockers.com (unfortunately only in Swedish) had an article about it.
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is amd like before where if you want to switch back to nvidia you need to reinstall windows?
semp
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is amd like before where if you want to switch back to nvidia you need to reinstall windows?
semp
ATI cards were never like that, before their acquisition by AMD nor afterwards. Just like with installing any video card, in order to make sure there were no issues it was recommended to remove all drivers from Windows before installing a new video card. The same went for Nvidia cards.
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ATI cards were never like that, before their acquisition by AMD nor afterwards. Just like with installing any video card, in order to make sure there were no issues it was recommended to remove all drivers from Windows before installing a new video card. The same went for Nvidia cards.
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Correct!
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Yeah the 780GTX is inching towards $500 mark. The 290X is having a huge impact on the market.
I stay NVidea cause Ive had such good luck with them. But years ago I had a few AMDs and they were nice cards. I wouldnt hesitate to buy a 290X if it was in the right configuration/system.
One thing I love about the 780GTX is how cool the thing stays. Even in graphics heavy apps it stay amazingly cool.
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Yeah the 780GTX is inching towards $500 mark. The 290X is having a huge impact on the market.
I stay NVidea cause Ive had such good luck with them. But years ago I had a few AMDs and they were nice cards. I wouldnt hesitate to buy a 290X if it was in the right configuration/system.
One thing I love about the 780GTX is how cool the thing stays. Even in graphics heavy apps it stay amazingly cool.
I think the 290 will have even more impact with its $399 price tag and very close to 290x performance.