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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Flench on November 06, 2013, 10:46:43 AM
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Gyrene took a selfie. Sweet.
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A hillbilly can't afford these , lol .
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A hillbilly can't afford these , lol .
lol, that's why they got pawn shops...
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lol, that's why they got pawn shops...
HAHAHAHA
EDIT: Let me add those BAR 270 are hard to come by now day's even if you can find one it run you 1500 .
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i thought that was a bar...very nice.
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Thanks gyrene81 . The only thing I don't like about it is the BOSS system . Hell on the ear's . It work's tho . You can fine tune your ammo with it .
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Thanks gyrene81 . The only thing I don't like about it is the BOSS system . Hell on the ear's . It work's tho . You can fine tune your ammo with it .
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i've heard that before, never fired one. if it's as ear piercing as 300 weatherby or 8mm rem mag...i'll take the ear plugs thank you very much.
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The BOSS system is hell on ears. But, while practicing at the range you should be wearing haring protection anyways. While hunting a single shot or two will hardly be noticed since your system will be able to shut it out, per say.
The nice thing about the BOSS system is you can "fine tune" the barrel to the ammo load you're shooting. In theory, the barrel can be tuned to the ammo being used. Those of us who reload our own ammo go about it from the other angle: we tune the ammo to the barrel. But the biggest benefit of reloading our own ammo is the price. Currently, .223 Rem/5.56 NATO is still over 50 cents a shot, I can reload it for less than 18 cents a shot and more typically less than 15 cents a shot when I play watch for clearance prices on bullets.
oh, and LONG LIVE THE USA! :aok
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I got to get back into reloading . I use to reload all my shotgun shell's when I shot trap all the time but have never reloaded brass .
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lol, that's why they got pawn shops...
When's the last time you saw a deal on a gun at a pawn shop?
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Nice Flench.
I relocated to Germany in 2006 and left several pounds of powder, primers, brass, RCBS equipment, and a great reloading bench with my father, who at the time lived in Corinth Ms. After a few years, circumstances changed and my dad and he asked if I would consider selling my reloading stuff to a cousin - I agreed. The real reason was my dad no longer had the space to store it - I didn't have the means nor ways to send it to Germnay so I sold it all. 10 lbs IMR 4831, 4 lbs Hogden 1110, RCBS scales, dies, tumbler, trimming tool, all the works...
I wish I had have thought this one through....
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Nice Flench.
I relocated to Germany in 2006 and left several pounds of powder, primers, brass, RCBS equipment, and a great reloading bench with my father, who at the time lived in Corinth Ms. After a few years, circumstances changed and my dad and he asked if I would consider selling my reloading stuff to a cousin - I agreed. The real reason was my dad no longer had the space to store it - I didn't have the means nor ways to send it to Germnay so I sold it all. 10 lbs IMR 4831, 4 lbs Hogden 1110, RCBS scales, dies, tumbler, trimming tool, all the works...
I wish I had have thought this one through....
Thanks ammo , I mite have to give you a PM when I start getting my reloading stuff .
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When's the last time you saw a deal on a gun at a pawn shop?
last month, saw some good deals through gunbroker.com. there are a lot of pawn shops with good prices on used guns.
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Aint no BAR but dis one! :salute
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Aint no BAR but dis one! :salute
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Yeah we no , lol . You think it was as fast as I pull the trigger , lol .
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Whereas I am in total agreement with bill of rights when it comes to guns, I have to point out something a friend of my said.
The purpose for the second amendment is to make sure that the government cannot be the only one with weapons. So that what the torries did can never happen again.
I must point out that our government has stealth aircraft, heavy armor and long range weapons. Guns will not stop any of these weapons systems if they chose to use them against our citizens. The landscape can no longer support surviving off the land for the masses.
I have never owned a gun, cannot see a reason to buy one. Guns do only one thing, kill. I have no desire to kill anyone or anything. So I wonder what the fascination with guns are.
In my world, I would legalize all drugs and make it illegal to purchase mass produced bullets.
Legalization of all drugs would prevent criminals from profits to buy guns.
Anyone who wishes to have firearms should be required to take classes in the pressing of their own bullets. Should be allowed to only purchase the raw components for bullets, and make their own.
When the constitution was written, the patriots made their own musket balls, did not have machine guns.
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Long live Dixieland! :rock
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:rolleyes:
Because stealth bombers, Abrams tanks, and cruise missiles made Afghanistan and Iraq a walk in the park.
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I have gun's to hunt . I have to have food . I don't like buying meat that no telling what has been fed to it and making some CEO rich while he is setting on a cruse ship that he owns . That's why I have gun's . Oh and if someone want's to take my stuff is another reason .
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I wonder how long it'll take before some numbnutz get this thread locked?
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Whereas I am in total agreement with bill of rights when it comes to guns, I have to point out something a friend of my said.
The purpose for the second amendment is to make sure that the government cannot be the only one with weapons. So that what the torries did can never happen again.
I must point out that our government has stealth aircraft, heavy armor and long range weapons. Guns will not stop any of these weapons systems if they chose to use them against our citizens. The landscape can no longer support surviving off the land for the masses.
I have never owned a gun, cannot see a reason to buy one. Guns do only one thing, kill. I have no desire to kill anyone or anything. So I wonder what the fascination with guns are.
In my world, I would legalize all drugs and make it illegal to purchase mass produced bullets.
Legalization of all drugs would prevent criminals from profits to buy guns.
Anyone who wishes to have firearms should be required to take classes in the pressing of their own bullets. Should be allowed to only purchase the raw components for bullets, and make their own.
When the constitution was written, the patriots made their own musket balls, did not have machine guns.
Take a hike hippy. We'll fight for your right to smoke dope and hug a tree. We got dis!
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I wonder how long it'll take before some numbnutz get this thread locked?
Oh you know there always one in every basket .
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I have gun's to hunt . I have to have food . I don't like buying meat that no telling what has been fed to it and making some CEO rich while he is setting on a cruse ship that he owns . That's why I have gun's . Oh and if someone want's to take my stuff is another reason .
You wont pay for meat from a butcher because it will make a big CO rich? or the farmers who work hard to feed and muster the cattle? or the transport driver who gets the cattle to the abattoir?
But your happy to buy guns and bullets from the struggling gun companies CO's...ok.
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You wont pay for meat from a butcher because it will make a big CO rich? or the farmers who work hard to feed and muster the cattle? or the transport driver who gets the cattle to the abattoir?
But your happy to buy guns and bullets from the struggling gun companies CO's...ok.
Nice try .
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But your happy to buy guns and bullets from the struggling gun companies CO's...ok.
Very, Very, Very happy actually....... :aok
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Have you had any problems with Chronic Wasting Disease in the Whitetail population down your way Flench?
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Have you had any problems with Chronic Wasting Disease in the Whitetail population down your way Flench?
We did back oh 10 year's ago but have not since then .
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Guns do only one thing, kill.
Obviously, this is incredibly far from being a true statement. If you're basing ANY argument on this flawed statement, well...
I wonder what percentage of fired ammo is even fired with the intent to kill? And of the ammo fired with deadly intent, what percentage "succeeds"?
I have roughly 80,000 (yes, 80,000; it's not a typo) rounds fired through rifles directly behind my house every summer (for 30+ years so far, probably closer to 50 years, maybe as many as 60 years). Not a single round was fired with the intent to kill or harm, and not a round caused unintentional harm or death.
That was just the rifles... If I added the BB guns, pistols, and shotguns (shotguns are running around 20,000 rounds/year), well, that's a WHOLE LOT of "not killing" going on...
Killing is something that firearms can obviously do, and that they're designed to do, but it's not what they "normally" do.
A statement like "Guns occasionally, or rarely kill things" is probably closer to the truth.
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I have gun's to hunt . I have to have food . I don't like buying meat that no telling what has been fed to it and making some CEO rich while he is setting on a cruse ship that he owns . That's why I have gun's . Oh and if someone want's to take my stuff is another reason .
on the other hand you eat meat that you have no idea it has fed upon. you cant tell if it's been sick or carrying some disease.
your reasoning sounds funny to me. then again, I do wish I could hunt my own meat but I have no delusions that what I kill is better than what I buy at the supermarket.
semp
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on the other hand you eat meat that you have no idea it has fed upon. you cant tell if it's been sick or carrying some disease.
your reasoning sounds funny to me. then again, I do wish I could hunt my own meat but I have no delusions that what I kill is better than what I buy at the supermarket.
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Hehe, one of my best friends spent an eternity working slaughter houses. He was deeply into the "meat industry".
He has no delusions that what he gets at the supermarket is as good as what he gets out of the woods.
And yes, you do have an idea if it's sick or diseased. A much better idea than you could ever hope to have with supermarket meat.
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One that has hunted deer for 50 year's like me can tell if a deer is sick or not plus you can look at there teeth and tong and tell .
On the ( Guns do only one thing, kill. thing ) I shot trap for 6 year's in a row every weekend around 500 round's eack weekend that I had to reload . Could not buy what I was shooting in a store . That's a lot of killing clay .
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Take a hike hippy. We'll fight for your right to smoke dope and hug a tree. We got dis!
I am from a military family. My father is a Naval Academy graduate, a Vietnam war veteran, an American hero. I just stated my pov, I insulted no one as you have chosen to do.
I'm not a hippy. I'm just not an animal. I do not need to increase my ball size with the illusion of weapons. I was here at ground zero, 911, working. I went to work every day after, I did not run from my home as some. I work, pay taxes and will defend my shores if required.
"If" you have served, I ty for your service. But I will never roll over for your attitude or blind behavior. The military works for its citizens, not the other way around. Service in the military gives no one any more rights than any one else. I am afraid of no one on this planet, you appear to be scared of something.
We are a farming culture, meat as well as fish and plants. Any man has the right to feed himself and his family. However, the landscape can no longer support all of us hunting game. Why do you think farming is done, its support more people per acre.
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Well I live in Mississippi and The Mississippi Department of Wildlife and Fishers estimates that 1.5 million deer live inside our state boundaries. Only Texas and Michigan support more deer than Mississippi. I think that last me a few year's .
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One that has hunted deer for 50 year's like me can tell if a deer is sick or not plus you can look at there teeth and tong and tell .
On the ( Guns do only one thing, kill. thing ) I shot trap for 6 year's in a row every weekend around 500 round's eack weekend that I had to reload . Could not buy what I was shooting in a store . That's a lot of killing clay .
I can smell the beef and see if it's spoiled or not.
semp
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I can smell the beef and see if it's spoiled or not.
semp
LOL Semp Hahhahaha
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I can smell the beef and see if it's spoiled or not.
semp
You sure can, just like you can with wild game.
Of course, that still won't tell you what that cow was eating or how healthy it was. Spoilage has much more to do with how the meat was treated / cared for post mortum than with the health of the animal.
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You sure can, just like you can with wild game.
Of course, that still won't tell you what that cow was eating or how healthy it was. Spoilage has much more to do with how the meat was treated / cared for post mortum than with the health of the animal.
you still cant tell what you killed ate. perhaps he just ate some grass where the last batch of ddt was thrown out and you killed it right before it was supposed to die.
I am not saying you are wrong and I am right. just saying we cant really tell for sure what whichever you killed or got butchered really ate. or which bug was feeding on it or if it carries some disease that just doesnt show yet.
semp
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you still cant tell what you killed ate. perhaps he just ate some grass where the last batch of ddt was thrown out and you killed it right before it was supposed to die.
I am not saying you are wrong and I am right. just saying we cant really tell for sure what whichever you killed or got butchered really ate. or which bug was feeding on it or if it carries some disease that just doesnt show yet.
semp
Well truthfully, an animal in the wild doesn't generally live long at all if it's carrying disease. You'd probably have a real rough time going out and finding a sick animal, let alone accidentally shooting one.
It's quite different in captivity. We pump our animals full of all sorts of stuff to keep them on their feet. We have to, because we crowd them into unhealthily-crowded groups, let them (er, force them to) wade through ankle-deep filth, and often feed them less-than-great feed.
They don't necessarily need to be "healthy" to make it onto your dinner table; just "healthy enough". How much meat does your average USDA inspector reject?
One of my first post-college jobs was working a feed mill in the middle of farmland Wisconsin. I drove a shovel-veyor out to the farms, picked up dried corn (about 6 tons per truckload), and drove it back to the mill where I ground it and mixed it into feed. I often drove the finished feed back to the farms as well. Talk about disgusting... Moldy corn, moldy oats, rats in the corn (which also went into the grinder occasionally), you name it.
While I KNOW what the farm animals were eating, I can't say I'm really comforted by that. I saw dead calves tossed over to the door of the barn, where they lay for weeks in the sweltering summer heat, just feet from where the "healthy" cows were fed. I saw fully-grown dead cows pushed just outside the barn door, and I had to literally step around them as I carried bags of feed and mineral mix into the barns. I got to witness the relatively fresh dead animal first bloat, then pop/deflate, and liquify over the several weeks it took them to decay in the sun, and again, this was just a few feet from the healthy animals. Of course, there are services to pick those animals up, (or the farmer can handle it himself) but trust me, they're not always taken care of right away... The flies are crawling over the carcass, and then flying over to walk on the animal feed or the other animals themselves, or on me...
I've also spent some time in the feed lots...
The meat industry is just that, an industry. They're producing meat like a factory.
Of course, there are many farmers/ranchers who do very well at running healthy operations... But there are others who just barely get by (legally as well as financially).
I'll take my chances with the wild game over the supermarket offerings any day, although I do a fair amount of grocery store foraging as well...
The wild animal might have just eaten something a little nasty, but it wasn't forced to do it repeatedly over a period of months!
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on the other hand you eat meat that you have no idea it has fed upon. you cant tell if it's been sick or carrying some disease.
your reasoning sounds funny to me. then again, I do wish I could hunt my own meat but I have no delusions that what I kill is better than what I buy at the supermarket.
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Hunting advice from the ignorant :rofl Be sure to get your Monsanto GMO corn next time you're at the grocery store. :aok
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Hunting advice from the ignorant :rofl Be sure to get your Monsanto GMO corn next time you're at the grocery store. :aok
in other words you cant come up with a good response like mtman so you decide to make it a personal attack instead. :salute
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in other words you cant come up with a good response like mtman so you decide to make it a personal attack instead. :salute
semp
What ever Capt High Road. You going to get drunk and talk about peoples wives on 200 tonight?
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What ever Capt High Road. You going to get drunk and talk about peoples wives on 200 tonight?
dude if I have offended you or your wife in the past then I apologize. I have no idea what you are talking about but I do joke around on 200 as that is the best part of ah for many of us. if I have ever said anything about your wife that offended you then I am sorry.
semp
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Guns do only one thing, kill.
Funny... I have a whole safe full of handguns, rifles and shotguns (and a recurve bow). Combined they have shot tens of thousands (maybe more, who's counting) of rounds, and never has any of them been used to kill any living thing.
Firearms were invented as weapons meant to kill of course, but that does not mean they cannot also be sport. Are you aware that there are several Olympic events using firearms? Ever heard of 3 Gun Nation, IPSC or USPSA? In fact many sporting events owe their genesis to weapons and/or combat. How about some other Olympic events like archery, javelin or fencing. Ever wonder what the original purpose of a bow and arrow, fencing rapier, or javelin was before it became sport? Or how about sports like baseball and cricket, the bats that they use are just refined versions of primitive clubs... clubs which where used as weapons millenia ago. What about boxing, wrestling or MMA, aren't they just a refined 'sporting' version of hand to hand combat?
I own guns for 2 reason, 1st: they are the best option I have for defense against criminals, thugs and tyrants, 2nd: they are a LOT of fun. Hunting is another very good reason, I just don't do it personally... yet.
Go to a range sometime, and you might find that you too enjoy the sport of shooting. :aok I once managed to talk a girl I dated into going shooting once, she was much like you, she had been raised to loathe guns and gun owners, taught that they where nothing but evil killing machines, believed in massive gun control to the point of repealing the 2nd amendment. We did a little skeet shooting, then some pistols, then some long range rifle, and while afterwards she tried valiantly to downplay it, while we were actually shooting, I caught her many times with a huge grin on her face, and she did admit it was 'fun'.
Of course sporting has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment, and I would love to dissect the rest of your argument, but any discussion of that here will get this locked.
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on the other hand you eat meat that you have no idea it has fed upon. you cant tell if it's been sick or carrying some disease.
semp
Umm... what on earth are you on about? Naturalists and hunters have known for a long time (pretty much as long as there has been hunting) what their prey fed upon... it's kind of a big part of how they trap or stalk or bait them. It's usually either searching for food, or searching for some mating action that is the undoing of most prey animals. Also much of the beef you buy in the grocery store is pretty much in the same boat as wildlife when it comes to diet control, nobody knows 'exactly' every plant some steer fed on, because in the summer months they are out grazing wild lands... ... just like wildlife.
As for disease, I have a foot in both worlds, I grew up on and around farms, my Grandfather was a cattle rancher his whole life, but my friends and family also hunt, and I'm a wildlife photographer so I've seen plenty of livestock, and plenty of wildlife. I can tell you that you are many, many times more likely to find sick livestock then sick wildlife.
Sorry man, but you seem to be displaying your ignorance of both hunting and farming.
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Guns should be banned unless your working for the government :old:
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HAHAHAHA
EDIT: Let me add those BAR 270 are hard to come by now day's even if you can find one it run you 1500 .
Is that a .22 Colt woodsman? Also is the other a .380 Mustang?
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We are a farming culture, meat as well as fish and plants. Any man has the right to feed himself and his family. However, the landscape can no longer support all of us hunting game. Why do you think farming is done, its support more people per acre.
You show a total ignorance of modern sport hunting. We dont hunt nowdays for our primary reason to fill the larder, tho thats always a nice benifit. We hunt in order to sustain the species.
Its wasnt the Disney crowd who brought back the deer, the turkey, the elk, the waterfowl, or is funding almost all wildlife programs in the world. Its the modern sport hunter who is. We are the ones spending the $$$ needed for habitat and protection and if it wasnt for us there would be nothing left.
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Its wasnt the Disney crowd who brought back the deer, the turkey, the elk, the waterfowl, or is funding almost all wildlife programs in the world. Its the modern sport hunter who is. We are the ones spending the $$$ needed for habitat and protection and if it wasnt for us there would be nothing left.
I've seen this first hand. At a Ducks Unlimited clay shoot last month in upstate NY the place was full of hunters who had paid a pretty penny to attend, and they continued to donate and buy chances to win prizes etc. Didn't see one Mickey Mouse.
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Is that a .22 Colt woodsman? Also is the other a .380 Mustang?
No , I wish Rich . It's a Stevens and a S&W . That S&w 9mm is the same gun or one like it that Well Smith used in I am Legend .
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Its wasnt the Disney crowd who brought back the deer, the turkey, the elk, the waterfowl, or is funding almost all wildlife programs in the world. Its the modern sport hunter who is. We are the ones spending the $$$ needed for habitat and protection and if it wasnt for us there would be nothing left.
Exactly.....Sportsmen and Sportswomen are the largest contributer of moneys and labor used by the Fed Govt via the Pittman-Robertson Act of 1937
"Through a federal excise tax paid by manufacturers on firearms, ammunition and archery equipment, it provides grant funds for wildlife and habitat conservation projects, projects to provide public use and access to wildlife resources, hunter education, and development and management of shooting ranges."
And its not just hunters.....fisherman also are one of the largest contributers
The Sport Fish Restoration Program was created through the Dingell-Johnson Act of 1950 (Federal Aid in Sport Fish Restoration Act) and the Wallop-Breaux amendments of 1984."
Through a federal excise tax paid by manufacturers on fishing gear and motorboat fuels, it provides grant funds for fishery conservation, boating access, and aquatic education.
So every time Flench and I buy a gun, ammunition, fishing lure, or fuel for my boat.....IM (Gladly) giving money to help save wildlife not only for the good of the planet......but for future generations to enjoy....hunters / fisherman or not
This doesnt even account for the millions raised by orgs like DU, RMEF, SCI, NWTF......i could go on and on.
I've seen this first hand. At a Ducks Unlimited clay shoot last month in upstate NY the place was full of hunters who had paid a pretty penny to attend, and they continued to donate and buy chances to win prizes etc. Didn't see one Mickey Mouse.
Excellent organization.......and proud member :aok
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Guns do only one thing, kill.
I have a closet full of firearms. No t a single one has ever jumped out and killed anything on it's own. Do such guns exist? It would save me the trouble of trekking through the woods to go hunting.
Are you trying to tell me that I bought/inherited the wrong type of guns?
Damnit! :furious
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Couple from my collection. Maybe it will inspire HiTech to model a Luger for my German pilot to fire angrily at an escaping plane after he's forced to bail out of his 109. :D
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Very nice ReVo .
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We are a farming culture, meat as well as fish and plants. Any man has the right to feed himself and his family. However, the landscape can no longer support all of us hunting game. Why do you think farming is done, its support more people per acre.
well then lets stop farming, and clear out the free loaders!!! then only people with guns will survive and we can have a idiot free society!!
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Here is my Kimber Stainless II I picked up for less than $500. The pistol had less than 100 rounds fired through it and is "like new". Considering what they go for - I got a steal! I just hope I still own it. Last time I saw it was 5 years ago in my father's house which has been sold. Dad tells me my cousin has it...
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Here is my Kimber Stainless II I picked up for less than $500. The pistol had less than 100 rounds fired through it and is "like new". Considering what they go for - I got a steal! I just hope I still own it. Last time I saw it was 5 years ago in my father's house which has been sold. Dad tells me my cousin has it...
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NICE . I think I be checking and see . No telling what it sell for now .
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Guns and no bullets?
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FRESH OUT OF THE OVEN
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MADE TODAY...SHOOTEM I'LL MAKE MORE!!!!!!!!!
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.357 phillips heads for those stripped out screw heads!
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One day I will retire and move to a state that embraces the hunting, fishing, shooting, outdoors culture that sustains me.
It will be a place where almost everybody hunts or shoots and I bet i wont need to lock my doors at night.
I do love being in the outdoors. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/elk-1.png)
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Guns and no bullets?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img30/491/4w7g.JPG)
FRESH OUT OF THE OVEN
(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/166/r5dy.jpg)
MADE TODAY...SHOOTEM I'LL MAKE MORE!!!!!!!!!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/6523/y3ys.jpg)
.357 phillips heads for those stripped out screw heads!
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Do you make a "Robertson" driver? I've heard the term tack driver when it comes to certain gun but those Phillips drivers puts a whole new spin on things.. :devil
BTW,is there a purpose to them or just a flight of fancy?
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One day I will retire and move to a state that embraces the hunting, fishing, shooting, outdoors culture that sustains me.
It will be a place where almost everybody hunts or shoots and I bet i wont need to lock my doors at night.
I do love being in the outdoors. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/elk-1.png)
I would think about Mississippi . I fall asleep all the time with the doors open all night . Every one around here carry's a gun . Unless they been to jail and can't .
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I don't make them but could if I had a mold cut or cast. The guy who does make them is a very talented caster and makes all kinds of weird bullets. I just make and sell the regular kind with a polymer coating.
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I don't make them but could if I had a mold cut or cast. The guy who does make them is a very talented caster and makes all kinds of weird bullets. I just make and sell the regular kind with a polymer coating.
I well have to remember that when I start reloading . Do you have any 9mm ? or 270
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I have about 50k 9mm ready to go and also 40 and 45! I have cleaned brass as well and a lot of it. I also sell ammo in 9mm right now.
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I have about 50k 9mm ready to go and also 40 and 45! I have cleaned brass as well and a lot of it. I also sell ammo in 9mm right now.
Great . I shoot you a PM in a few day's .
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I don't make them but could if I had a mold cut or cast. The guy who does make them is a very talented caster and makes all kinds of weird bullets. I just make and sell the regular kind with a polymer coating.
What mold material do you need?
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One day I will retire and move to a state that embraces the hunting, fishing, shooting, outdoors culture that sustains me.
It will be a place where almost everybody hunts or shoots and I bet i wont need to lock my doors at night.
I do love being in the outdoors. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/elk-1.png)
Rich , is that a Boss system on that rifle in that pic ?
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I don't make them but could if I had a mold cut or cast. The guy who does make them is a very talented caster and makes all kinds of weird bullets. I just make and sell the regular kind with a polymer coating.
Pretty cool looking anyways!
:salute
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What mold material do you need?
Depends...Long term steel is best.
Aluminium is a good second...
I am going to be upgrading to an auto caster soon so....
It just gets weird after that!
For one off stuff I could use green sand or ceramics and the list goes on.
Are you in the machining business?
You could make some dough cutting molds and put up a sign saying "due to the overwhelming volume of requests we are not taking on new business"
TES
Oh...and heres more from the same guy...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2396/itcp.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/8610/vzdj.jpg)
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Rich , is that a Boss system on that rifle in that pic ?
Nice notice. It is indeed a Browning .338 Win Mag with BOSS.
And I found it fun, as would any hand loading specialist, honing loads and dialing in settings to get ultimate accuracy. Its not needed for "MOA" of Elk but I have fun with it. The bullet I mostly use is a Swift A-frame in 225 grn, or a special 217 grn batch they ran once and I grabbed a bunch from Swift. I forget the exact load.
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One day I will retire and move to a state that embraces the hunting, fishing, shooting, outdoors culture that sustains me.
It will be a place where almost everybody hunts or shoots and I bet i wont need to lock my doors at night.
I do love being in the outdoors. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/elk-1.png)
Come on over to PA....plenty of room and vast tracts of State Game Lands :aok
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/photo_zpse66267fd.jpg)
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Very nice Rich . I don't care what people say but one can not beet a Browning . Best gun's ever made . The Boss system just make's them even better .
That your deer mbailey , nice . EDIT: I see you fixed it .
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Very nice Rich . I don't care what people say but one can not beet a Browning . Best gun's ever made . The Boss system just make's them even better .
That your deer mbailey , nice . ( Oh No , I see blood . Tegier or what ever his tree loving name is , is going to see that and have a stroke hahahhahahahhahahhahhahahhhah aha .) HE cost me two weeks off the forun and he better be glad he don't live close .
Yea, that was the one we got last year.. (I say we as my boy and I hunted way to hard to say that I got it, and couldnt have got it out of the woods without him...my little hunting buddie :aok ) 2 more weeks and the season opens again :aok :aok His turn this year ;)
Changed the pic, dont want to get anyones panties in a bunch :rolleyes:........Here it is mounted.
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Cool mbailey but I would not have change it screw him . MAde a nice mount .
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lol yea......but I dont want to miss anything in the Fishing thread :D Havent been out for 2 months and im living vicariously thru u guys :lol
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I'm going squirrel hunting this afternoon . I make up for it with them all across my truck hood , lol .
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Depends...Long term steel is best.
Aluminium is a good second...
I am going to be upgrading to an auto caster soon so....
It just gets weird after that!
For one off stuff I could use green sand or ceramics and the list goes on.
Are you in the machining business?
You could make some dough cutting molds and put up a sign saying "due to the overwhelming volume of requests we are not taking on new business"
TES
Oh...and heres more from the same guy...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2396/itcp.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/8610/vzdj.jpg)
Although I don't do it for a living anymore, I have the ability to machine. :aok
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What all do I need to start reloading a 9mm and a 270 . I have scales . Do they use a 409 primer like on a shotgun hull ? Can someone give me a link to a good site that well help me out with a little info .
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What all do I need to start reloading a 9mm and a 270 . I have scales . Do they use a 409 primer like on a shotgun hull ? Can someone give me a link to a good site that well help me out with a little info .
If I were you, I'd start with an RCBS Rockchucker Master Kit:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/646599/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-single-stage-press-master-kit (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/646599/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-single-stage-press-master-kit)
In addition, you'd need .270 and 9mm dies and shell holders for the press.
As for primers, no, the 9mm takes small pistol primers and the .270 takes large rifle primers.
If you ever get into a higher volume of reloading, you could then go for a progressive press. But IMO, that's only when you start wanting to pump out hundreds of rounds in a short period of time. For loading hunting rounds and low volume plinking rounds, the single stage is more than adequate.
Edit - search youtube. There are tons of good videos on the basics. :aok
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Thanks Triton28 , Yeah I see every thing is different than what I'm use too loading shotgun shell's .
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I don't suppose you do 7.62x25, ToeTag? :D
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The purpose for the second amendment is to make sure that the government cannot be the only one with weapons. So that what the torries did can never happen again.
Afraid that is only partially correct, the 2nd amendment is based from English common law that supports "the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state"
Guns do only one thing, kill. I have no desire to kill anyone or anything. So I wonder what the fascination with guns are.
You might change your tune if you have to defend your home and family. There is a genuine disincentive for criminals to target random homes, because they never know if the owner has a gun and is going to shoot their bellybutton off.
I'll leave you with words from the late Andy Rooney "If staplers are made illegal, then only criminals would use them"
Think about that for a moment. :old:
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Very nice Rich . I don't care what people say but one can not beet a Browning . Best gun's ever made . The Boss system just make's them even better .
That your deer mbailey , nice . EDIT: I see you fixed it .
Yeah I love my Browning. Yet my Rem-700 is scarey accurate too. My old style Win M-70 in .375 H&H is a honey, Marlin levers, Browning levers...ect. You can go on forever. But my stainless Browning .338 did exactly what i wanted it to. It traveled thru the Rockies, Africa, Newfoundland, numerous times and took my game sufficiently while beating the elements.
It did nothing my '06 or 7mm couldnt do but it does do it with more authority.
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I don't suppose you do 7.62x25, ToeTag? :D
Nope. Rifle is just soooooo hit or miss. ( I know) If you don't have the right weight and ballistic tip color you get shunned. So you have to sell way to many varieties of the same sandwich......Just pistol for me....for now :devil
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Nope. Rifle is just soooooo hit or miss. ( I know) If you don't have the right weight and ballistic tip color you get shunned. So you have to sell way to many varieties of the same sandwich......Just pistol for me....for now :devil
Thats good 'cause I was asking about the 7.62x25 Tokarev, the pistol round. :devil
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I reload only rifle and specialty pistol rounds. Well, I used to. Back then it was easy to buy stuff like 9mm, .38, 5.56, 7.62x39, in bulk and you never had to worry about reloading them. So I only used my RCBS single for pistol stuff like .45 Colt "THERE IS NO LONG COLT", and .454 Casull. .45 everything included a .450 Marlin.
Single loading with extreme precision will give very large accuracy improvements with rifles. Measuring the chamber throat, trimming cases to best length, "exactly" measuring powder, checking and measuring "each" bullet seat, weighing individual cases and using only one from the same lot, weighing individual bullets...and on and on it goes. I could take an entire day reloading just one batch of loads.
This of course after finding out what kind of bullet your rifle likes, what kind of seat, what kind of primer and powder charge. Each rifle is its own law and its why you could buy 10 of the same rifles and each will probably like a different load then the others. Extreme accuracy is just a hobby, its not necessary for successful hunting or enjoying your sport shooting. Its just a hobby, and a fun one.
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Thats good 'cause I was asking about the 7.62x25 Tokarev, the pistol round. :devil
Sorry.....I see 7.62 and an automatic response comes out of my mouth. :rolleyes:
I could if there was demand to counter the cost of molds dies etc...
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Single loading with extreme precision will give very large accuracy improvements with rifles. Measuring the chamber throat, trimming cases to best length, "exactly" measuring powder, checking and measuring "each" bullet seat, weighing individual cases and using only one from the same lot, weighing individual bullets...and on and on it goes. I could take an entire day reloading just one batch of loads.
This of course after finding out what kind of bullet your rifle likes, what kind of seat, what kind of primer and powder charge. Each rifle is its own law and its why you could buy 10 of the same rifles and each will probably like a different load then the others. Extreme accuracy is just a hobby, its not necessary for successful hunting or enjoying your sport shooting. Its just a hobby, and a fun one.
Just want to piggy back on this. I had dyes for 4 rifle calibers and one handgun caliber; 30-06, 308 Winchester, 270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, and 44 Rem Mag. My uncle bought me a Basic RCBS reloading kit in 1993 and originally I only wanted to make premium hunting ammo for a fraction of what it cost in the stores. This was too easy to do back then when components were so cheap. I could build a quality round with a Speer or Nosler bullet for about 10 cents a piece. Wasn't long I started messing around around with working up loads for the sole purpose of getting "belted magnum" performance out of my 24" barreled Winchester Model 70 (30-06). I chrono'd 165 grain rounds over 3000 fps with no high pressure signs. While working up loads 1/2 grain at a time, I found my rifle would print MOA groups at certain pressure levels. My quest to find that consistent MOA load began. As time went by, I purchased a Remington Model 700 in 308 and a Ruger Redhawk in 44 Mag. I bought dyes and components for these calibers and had a hoot of time just poking holes in paper looking for that magic load.
I have a buddy who asked me to make work him up a 130 grain load for his 270 Winchester Bar. We had such great results that he became a regular "customer". Word got around around in our "hunters circles" and soon I was building ammo for other guys too. I had strict rules in this regard. I would not allow them to supply fired brass for one. I would always buy new brass. Also, I never loaded at or exceeded a published maximum load.
Reloading is an absolute blast. I used a weighted scale and a teaspoon to measure every charge - down to the grain. I trimmed and de-burred every case to perfection. I measured the throat of every firearm I reloaded for to gain the absolute best bullet seating depth for each. All of these steps gave me great results.
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your reasoning sounds funny to me. then again, I do wish I could hunt my own meat but I have no delusions that what I kill is better than what I buy at the supermarket.
semp
Sorry semp but that is delusional. Once you start getting your own game meats supermarket meats tastes like crap. I hunt/eat rabbit, hare (aka Jack Rabbit in the US), goat, fallow deer, and red deer. Eat fallow deer for a month and supermarket beef tastes/feels like eating an old leather shoe.
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I would just like to thank you guy's that see the real picture . <S>
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Yeah I love my Browning. Yet my Rem-700 is scarey accurate too. My old style Win M-70 in .375 H&H is a honey, Marlin levers, Browning levers...ect. You can go on forever. But my stainless Browning .338 did exactly what i wanted it to. It traveled thru the Rockies, Africa, Newfoundland, numerous times and took my game sufficiently while beating the elements.
It did nothing my '06 or 7mm couldnt do but it does do it with more authority.
I have a J Rigby & Co in 376H&H and in 416 Nitro Express. Both are tack drivers. :aok. Fun but expensive to shoot
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Sorry semp but that is delusional. Once you start getting your own game meats supermarket meats tastes like crap. I hunt/eat rabbit, hare (aka Jack Rabbit in the US), goat, fallow deer, and red deer. Eat fallow deer for a month and supermarket beef tastes/feels like eating an old leather shoe.
Try Elk...I was really impressed the first time..and second ....and third....and..... :O
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I have a J Rigby & Co in 376H&H and in 416 Nitro Express. Both are tack drivers. Fun but expensive to shoot
Good lord, where do you even get the ammo?
My shoulder hurts just thinking of sighting in a .416 Rigby.
- oldman
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I have a J Rigby & Co in 376H&H and in 416 Nitro Express. Both are tack drivers. :aok. Fun but expensive to shoot
Rigby has a rich history and its .416 holds a special place in Africa hunting. With calibers like that reloading is really the only way to go. I considered getting a .416, or maybe a .404 Jeffry, but I figured the amount of times I'll go to Africa and/or big bear hunting are few so i choose the .375 H&H, really the 3006 of Africa, and love it.
The problem was finding one. Tho Im right handed Im left eye dominant so I prefer to shoot lefty tho i can shoot either way. I found a LH M-70 down in Texas and had it shipped here. It was after Winchester decided they were going to make the old style M-70 again and boy its a beaut. I have a Leo Vari-X-lll 1.5x to 5 x on it with a quick take down mount and ghost ring iron sights. She shoots pretty well, target on left. (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/shoot-1.jpg) That was with the Swift A-frame 270 grn at about 2700 fps, I forget the exact load.
I took a huge African Eland with it after an entire day of stalking a large herd that also had many hundreds of zebras mixed in. Every time we stalked them we couldnt get within 500 yrds without them taking off. Man if you ever heard that many big animals like that stampeding, they make the earth shake. Anyway there was one huge Bull in the mix so we didnt want to quit. Eventualy I got an 80 yrd shot at him as he was running across a clearing and a 300 grn A-frame took him in the shoulder and knocked him down for a humane finisher. Ah the memories hunting gives you. I always thought the big caliber gave me an edge with 600 lb + critters tho we all know it comes down to where you put the bullet.
I envy you your Rigby's. Save it for future generations in your family. :salute
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Here is my collection so far.
Ruger SR 556
XDM .45 Compact
Teni M38 7.35mm Carcano (manufactured in 1939 and used by the Finnish Army)
Inland-GM M1 Carbine (manufactured in 1943)
Colt 1911 (manufactured in 1918)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo1_zps60a1e0f0.jpg)
close up of my 1911
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo2_zps9bb8cdf5.jpg)[/URL]
then i JUST got this in the mail today :)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo3-Copy_zps105d9301.jpg)[/URL]
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I have a modest collection of firearms. These include pistols, revolvers, rifles and shotguns. AKs, H&K, CETME, Mausers, Enfields, CZ, Colts, Remingtons, Marlins and others.
My favorites are not the military style semi-autos. Not even the WWI and WWII collectibles.
These are my favorites....
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/485028_4916198068154_1601529028_n.jpg)
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Here is my collection so far.
Ruger SR 556
XDM .45 Compact
Teni M38 7.35mm Carcano (manufactured in 1939 and used by the Finnish Army)
Inland-GM M1 Carbine (manufactured in 1943)
Colt 1911 (manufactured in 1918)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo1_zps60a1e0f0.jpg)
close up of my 1911
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo2_zps9bb8cdf5.jpg)[/URL]
then i JUST got this in the mail today :)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo3-Copy_zps105d9301.jpg)[/URL]
I don't suppose I could talk you out of that Carcano? :D
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I have a modest collection of firearms. These include pistols, revolvers, rifles and shotguns. AKs, H&K, CETME, Mausers, Enfields, CZ, Colts, Remingtons, Marlins and others.
My favorites are not the military style semi-autos. Not even the WWI and WWII collectibles.
These are my favorites....
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/485028_4916198068154_1601529028_n.jpg)
You would love my friends pair of John Wayne Commerative Winchesters in 32-40 The fact that they are what they are isnt the big deal......but he has consecutive serial numbers.....ready for this.......numbers 1 and 2
Ive gotten to hold them, wearing gloves of course LOL
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Try Elk...I was really impressed the first time..and second ....and third....and..... WHOA!
elk is YUMMY!!! :aok caribou is really good also :D
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Rigby has a rich history and its .416 holds a special place in Africa hunting. With calibers like that reloading is really the only way to go. I considered getting a .416, or maybe a .404 Jeffry, but I figured the amount of times I'll go to Africa and/or big bear hunting are few so i choose the .375 H&H, really the 3006 of Africa, and love it.
I envy you your Rigby's. Save it for future generations in your family. :salute
Absolutely...I was fortunate enough to work (P/T) in a gunshop that handled high end shotguns and rifles and in working there got my appreciation (fancy word for addiction) of high end rifles. Needless to say never collected a paycheck, they were always "reinvested" into the gunshop. There is something about holding them, their balance, fit and craftsmanship that just sunk into my soul.....sunk in deep ....Needless to say not a cheap hobby, but the ones i do own have only appreciated in value.......Next on my list is a James Purdey&Sons in 470NE square block bolt....I also have a line on a Walter Locke & Co in .404 Jeffery.... one of my favorites that i own is a Winchester Model 70 (PreWar) that was sent (mid 70s) to Paul Jaeger to have some custom work done to it.... http://www.germanhuntingguns.com/Sections/Page.asp?SSID=476&NRID=1
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Anyone have experience with the Kel-Tech Sub 2000? All of the reviews I've read on it are absolute love or complete hate. I've heard the same about most kel-tec products. I think it's a neat concept. Seems the only comparable rifle is the Baretta Cx4 storm; huge price difference.
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Here is the ULTIMATE USA gun....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaQPpgaY4Y
LawnDart
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Here is the ULTIMATE USA gun....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaQPpgaY4Y
LawnDart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJu2njFgSN8
:aok
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Here is my collection so far.
Ruger SR 556
XDM .45 Compact
Teni M38 7.35mm Carcano (manufactured in 1939 and used by the Finnish Army)
Inland-GM M1 Carbine (manufactured in 1943)
Colt 1911 (manufactured in 1918)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo1_zps60a1e0f0.jpg)
close up of my 1911
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo2_zps9bb8cdf5.jpg)[/URL]
then i JUST got this in the mail today :)
(http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s346/Selino30/photo3-Copy_zps105d9301.jpg)[/URL]
Your 1911 is nice. It is a true "1911" too, not a "1911A1". I hope you know how lucky you are to have one, I don't know what you paid for it but they only keep appreciating in value. Last I saw a true 1911 was going for over $2500 and that was without a matching magazine. Your Carcano is nice, too. I'd like to find a full sized 6.5mm Carcano sometime, word is they've become expensive too. I've got a number of others (Garand, Arisaka Type 98 6.5mm w/ mum, No 4 Enfield, Mosin Nagant, Nazi k98, Mas 36, and a few others as well).
**off topic**
Circa 1998 I was touring the airbase in Sioux City, IA (home of the 185th Fighter Wing of the IA Air NG), I was able to get in to the armory (was thinking of joining as an officer in the security forces), I bet there were 100+ of the SW Mod 10 "Victory" revolvers that looked as if they'd never been fired. There were also at least than many 1911A1's just hanging there as well. They has switched over to the Beretta but had not ever received orders to return or destroy the Mod 10's or 1911's so there they sat collecting dust. I have a feeling they've been destroyed by now. :mad: There were also shelves full of M16A1's as well, it make me feel all giddy inside. :D
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Your 1911 is nice. It is a true "1911" too, not a "1911A1". I hope you know how lucky you are to have one, I don't know what you paid for it but they only keep appreciating in value. Last I saw a true 1911 was going for over $2500 and that was without a matching magazine. Your Carcano is nice, too. I'd like to find a full sized 6.5mm Carcano sometime, word is they've become expensive too. I've got a number of others (Garand, Arisaka Type 98 6.5mm w/ mum, No 4 Enfield, Mosin Nagant, Nazi k98, Mas 36, and a few others as well).
**off topic**
Circa 1998 I was touring the airbase in Sioux City, IA (home of the 185th Fighter Wing of the IA Air NG), I was able to get in to the armory (was thinking of joining as an officer in the security forces), I bet there were 100+ of the SW Mod 10 "Victory" revolvers that looked as if they'd never been fired. There were also at least than many 1911A1's just hanging there as well. They has switched over to the Beretta but had not ever received orders to return or destroy the Mod 10's or 1911's so there they sat collecting dust. I have a feeling they've been destroyed by now. :mad: There were also shelves full of M16A1's as well, it make me feel all giddy inside. :D
I bought it up in Fairbanks, AK right after i got back from Afghanistan. Best $1,100 i've ever spent. I've only fired it a few times, but it shoots beautifully. Definitely something i'm keeping for long term, I don't think i'll ever sell it.
And about the old 1911's you found, I bet you they are still in that Armory! When i was based up in at Ft Wainwright, AK. We had a whole foot locker full of WW2 commo equipment just sitting in the comms room... lol, and its still on the books