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Title: Rescued Pilots
Post by: earl1937 on November 19, 2013, 05:48:05 AM
 :airplane: Again, after a mission last night, 11-18, the issue of downed pilots once again should be addressed! We had a dual mission last night to Bish strats, 8 sectors deep into "Indian country" and because of the bravery and skill of our escort fighters, most of the bomber elements RTB'd OK.
One of our escort pilots Redtail7 ran out of fuel and had to bail, 5 sectors deep into the enemy land. I sent C-47's to rescue him by landing, picking him up and returning him to home plate. Many other pilots were involved in helping "BigFred" in landing on a mountain side, taking off, flying skillfully on the deck and returning Redtail7 to base. Problem was this: in order for Redtail7 to "join" BigFred's C-47, he had to end his sortie, then click on join in the roster, which then put him in the C-47 for the return trip home.
Now here is a pilot, Redtail7, who had to suffer a capture on his record in AH, when in fact, he took off from his base and returned to his base.
I would like to see AH add the ability to join another aircraft, when the pilot is on the ground, with out having to end his sortie. The player would have to be on the ground, not have the ability to jump from one aircraft to another, but if on the ground, be able to join the rescue aircraft, even if it is a fighter aircraft.
There have been rescued pilots retrieved that way in real life, so why not in Aces High?
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: olds442 on November 19, 2013, 06:28:00 AM
The main issue with something like this is that its for "fun". Yes fun, a word that is lost a lot in this game. People just want kills and not worry about doing these other things. I for one agree with this it would be "fun"
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Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2013, 07:07:32 AM
     Suffer a capture on his record???   :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
There have been rescued pilots retrieved that way in real life, so why not in Aces High?
because nobody actually dies nor spends the rest of the war as a p.o.w?

in special events with single life, it could be something workable but for the main arenas where there are zero restrictions on how many times you get shot down, rescue has zero use.

see if this sounds familiar to you Earl...
{chat window}
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner!!!!
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner????!!!!!!!
<joenumpty> i need a gunner!!!!!!!!!!!!
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner???????!!!!!!
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<joenumpty> i need a rescue!!!!!
<joenumpty> can somebody come rescue me????
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{chat window}
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Puma44 on November 19, 2013, 10:02:34 AM
because nobody actually dies nor spends the rest of the war as a p.o.w?

in special events with single life, it could be something workable but for the main arenas where there are zero restrictions on how many times you get shot down, rescue has zero use.

see if this sounds familiar to you Earl...
{chat window}
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner?
<joenumpty> i need a gunner!!!!
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner????!!!!!!!
<joenumpty> i need a gunner!!!!!!!!!!!!
<joe numpty> can someone be my gunner???????!!!!!!
{chat window}

now let's substitute some words...

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<joenumpty> i need a rescue!!!!!
<joenumpty> can somebody come rescue me????
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The first three lines were more than sufficient to make your point.  The rest; overkill and insulting.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: SlidingHorn on November 19, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
The first three lines were more than sufficient to make your point.  The rest, overkill and insulting.

I was more wondering how he managed to actually copy and paste the chat buffer....  :devil
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
The first three lines were more than sufficient to make your point.  The rest; overkill and insulting.
i doubt it, because this very subject with the same faulty logic keeps getting replicated even after the exact same points are made...if you find it insulting, tough.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Puma44 on November 19, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
i doubt it, because this very subject with the same faulty logic keeps getting replicated even after the exact same points are made...if you find it insulting, tough.
Pretty much the expected response.  You're right, everyone else is wrong.  You made your point.  But not being one to make your point and move along, you had to pile it on with the fake garbage.  

Tough?  You're still insulting, regardless.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Zoney on November 19, 2013, 11:24:52 AM
The main issue with something like this is that its for "fun". Yes fun, a word that is lost a lot in this game. People just want kills and not worry about doing these other things. I for one agree with this it would be "fun"
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-1  If it is for fun then why does it matter if "he had to suffer a capture on his record" ?  If they want to do this and have fun doing it then they succeeded.  Why does it always have to be about the score if it's just for fun?  I do not want the code changed.  The next thing that will happen is as an enemy is engaged, some will bail to deny you a kill then wait to be rescued to keep that "score" untarnished.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 12:00:41 PM
Pretty much the expected response.  You're right, everyone else is wrong.  You made your point.  But not being one to make your point and move along, you had to pile it on with the fake garbage.  

Tough?  You're still insulting, regardless.
is your feelings hurt?  :cry  i'm not here to make you happy darling...what i said was 100% accurate...if my attitude bothers you, find a bridge and take a jump.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Puma44 on November 19, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
is your feelings hurt?  :cry  i'm not here to make you happy darling...what i said was 100% accurate...if my attitude bothers you, find a bridge and take a jump.
Nope, not hurt at all.  I'm certainly not looking for your approval.  Your attitude is your problem. Just an observation of your usuall caustic response, this time to a honored and respected friend.  You have apparently lost your sense of honor and respect.

 
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 12:25:02 PM
Nope, not hurt at all.  I'm certainly not looking for your approval.  Your attitude is your problem. Just an observation of your usuall caustic response, this time to a honored and respected friend.  You have apparently lost your sense of honor and respect.
i know it's not in compliance with your normal bow down and inhale rituals based solely on some mindless preconceived notions. you're the one taking exception to my response and i take exception to your desire to try and make me bow down as you do. it just isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Puma44 on November 19, 2013, 12:33:36 PM
No one is trying to make you bow down to anything.  If you are terminally POed at the world, that's your problem. 
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Tinkles on November 19, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
PURSE FIGHT!!!!!!! PURSE FIGHT!!!!




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Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 01:27:25 PM
No one is trying to make you bow down to anything.  If you are terminally POed at the world, that's your problem. 
there goes another erroneous preconceived notion...i'm not pissed off. just because i'm not bowing down and giving someone a free pass on something doesn't mean i'm mad in any manner.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Karnak on November 19, 2013, 02:09:41 PM
It is a bad gameplay mechanism to encourage players to sit idle on a polygonal hillside for 30ish minutes rather than getting them back participating in the fight.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: earl1937 on November 19, 2013, 02:12:33 PM
there goes another erroneous preconceived notion...i'm not pissed off. just because i'm not bowing down and giving someone a free pass on something doesn't mean i'm mad in any manner.
:airplane: No one is asking you to bow down for anything! I could care less if a capture hurts one's score or not, but in the interest of appeasing you score hounds in here, I thought that might be some incentive to think it was a good idea.
The main thing is the ability to join a aircraft, which has landed and pick up a pilot and RTB him to a friendly base. I can also see where using a LVT, launched from a port or a ship, picking up a downed pilot or someone with a GV, which is disabled and needs to be RTB'd, grab a jeep, go him. I am not one who supports the idea of dropping a box of vehicle supplies within 800 feet and all of a sudden, you have a brand new GV. That is one thing that makes this sim like a arcade game.
I am just trying to make a suggestion which would enhance the game and give us something else to do besides furball and base captures. I think that and the LST suggestion would go a long way to making the game more attractive to prospective customers on a two free trail, because not everyone wants to fly a aircraft.
We had about 30 guys, off and on during our rescue mission of Redtail7 last night and everyone thought it was a "blast" and it was something new and interesting to do.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: earl1937 on November 19, 2013, 02:18:34 PM
It is a bad gameplay mechanism to encourage players to sit idle on a polygonal hillside for 30ish minutes rather than getting them back participating in the fight.
:airplane: Oh, so I guess in your mind, its ok for someone to sit on a spawn point and land 44 kills? What kind of B.S. is that? If a player wants to be rescued for what ever reason, as long as you are NOT being required to do so, what difference does it make to you?
Quit trying to shoot down any constructive  suggestion to improve the game!
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Wiley on November 19, 2013, 02:43:42 PM
:airplane: Oh, so I guess in your mind, its ok for someone to sit on a spawn point and land 44 kills?

While lame, it's a significant improvement.  They're attacking other players, they're available to be shot back at, or bombed, and interacting with the enemy.  A guy on a hillside is a guy on a hillside.

Couple that with the 'never let anything bad happen to me' attitude of most gamers, and the arena will be chock full of people sitting around waiting for their C47.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: olds442 on November 19, 2013, 02:50:37 PM
-1  If it is for fun then why does it matter if "he had to suffer a capture on his record" ?  If they want to do this and have fun doing it then they succeeded.  Why does it always have to be about the score if it's just for fun?  I do not want the code changed.  The next thing that will happen is as an enemy is engaged, some will bail to deny you a kill then wait to be rescued to keep that "score" untarnished.
Good point about the score, I really wish score could be used to judge pilot SKILL and not timidness.
However i still like the idea, for special events its really handy. Also bailing would still give the kill to the attacker.

EDIT: What I will say is this, Earl runs some fantastic missions and are some of the best in the MA. He is one of the few people who capture bases with huge bombing raids which PROMOTE fighting with fighter escorts and the bombers. And after a almost 2 1/2 hour B29 run if Earl is shot down I think anyone of his squad mates or friends would help him. Its a GAME and if people are having FUN in said game then what is the issue? Also this would PROMOTE more fighting if say a C47 climbs out to 25k and is protected by 2 fighters. It would be one hell of a landing!
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 02:54:50 PM
sorry Earl but, the people worried about the value of their virtual lives where there is no value are the score hounds. the lack of the rescue element doesn't affect people who don't care a single iota about score, we go up, we get shot down, we go to tower, we take a brand new cartoon plane into the air and do it all over again. a kill/death ratio of -50/1 is nothing to someone who doesn't care about score. the name in lights for landing <score potato> points doesn't mean squat to someone who truly doesn't care about score.

what does matter is what happens when our cartoon planes are in the cartoon skies...who can we shoot cartoon bullets at.

again, as a feature for special events where a cartoon pileits life has some intrinsic value to the scenario...good idea. for main arena use, not a good idea.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Wiley on November 19, 2013, 03:26:59 PM
this would PROMOTE more fighting if say a C47 climbs out to 25k and is protected by 2 fighters. It would be one hell of a landing!

And what do you think would be the ratio of people sitting in field waiting for C47s to people piloting C47s out to those people?  I have a feeling your answer will be significantly different from mine.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: earl1937 on November 19, 2013, 03:33:52 PM
sorry Earl but, the people worried about the value of their virtual lives where there is no value are the score hounds. the lack of the rescue element doesn't affect people who don't care a single iota about score, we go up, we get shot down, we go to tower, we take a brand new cartoon plane into the air and do it all over again. a kill/death ratio of -50/1 is nothing to someone who doesn't care about score. the name in lights for landing <score potato> points doesn't mean squat to someone who truly doesn't care about score.

what does matter is what happens when our cartoon planes are in the cartoon skies...who can we shoot cartoon bullets at.

again, as a feature for special events where a cartoon pileits life has some intrinsic value to the scenario...good idea. for main arena use, not a good idea.
:airplane: I don't have any problem with people who disagrees with this suggestion, as I have been running these things for about two years now. I will continue to run them when situations are right and what I mean is, if everyone is getting "stale" from furballing and base captures, its my responsibility as a squadron leader to keep the guys interested in the game and that is just one more way to do it.
BTW, does anyone know if a GV can be joined as we can in aircraft?
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: olds442 on November 19, 2013, 03:53:37 PM
And what do you think would be the ratio of people sitting in field waiting for C47s to people piloting C47s out to those people?  I have a feeling your answer will be significantly different from mine.

Wiley.
Not very much at all, but following that logic why do we have the fi-156?
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Wiley on November 19, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Not very much at all, but following that logic why do we have the fi-156?

It's pretty useless as well in my opinion, but at least it can add something to a ground engagement when it's used.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Wildcatdad on November 19, 2013, 04:55:54 PM
Okay, so earl, an EXTREMELY respected and well known player is in here trying to make a wish he feels will better the game, and you two come in and start a sissy fight. it is his opinion and his WISH! He can wish for whatever he wants, and everyone needs to respect that. I am not trying to stir anything up or be disrespectful, but come on!
 :salute Earl, and as to the OP, I agree.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Oldman731 on November 19, 2013, 04:59:57 PM
And what do you think would be the ratio of people sitting in field waiting for C47s to people piloting C47s out to those people?  I have a feeling your answer will be significantly different from mine.


I doubt that rescue would become an overriding feature of the game.  Not many people want to sit in place with nothing to do for ten minutes.  Even tank people.  Not many people want to fly a goon ten minutes out, ten minutes back, just to pick someone up.  Or else it gives people - probably squadrons, who have lost a member and want to bring him back, just because they're tired of swarming bases - something to focus on which might actually promote combat in the rescue area.

I don't see a down side to this.

- oldman
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: muzik on November 19, 2013, 09:25:16 PM
for the main arenas where there are zero restrictions on how many times you get shot down, rescue has zero use.


Sure it does. ----> fun.  How smart do you have to be before you can understand that? It's a game.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2013, 09:46:22 PM
Sure it does. ----> fun.  How smart do you have to be before you can understand that? It's a game.
yup, standing around waiting is really fun  :rolleyes: ...you can do that without needing a rescue, just spawn inside a hangar and eject.

i guess i'm not smart enough to think standing around in cartoon land is fun...
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2013, 10:31:23 PM
     Now that I think about it, go ahead and let people be rescued.  If you want to waste that much time
reupping, fine by me.  As long as it's understood that your score will still be judged as if you lost your
bird <which of course, you did>.  I think I'll stick with the tried and true .ef.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: jeffdn on November 20, 2013, 08:16:02 AM
Look at the positives guys! There will be way more goons to kill...  :huh :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: Karnak on November 20, 2013, 09:21:45 AM
I have no problem with it being added to the game so long as there isn't any mechanism that significantly encourages it.  No keeping your 200 perks for the Me262 you bailed out of, no turning a capture into a landing or anything like that.  It can change a capture to a bailed and that is all.
Title: Re: Rescued Pilots
Post by: guncrasher on November 20, 2013, 09:29:04 AM
captured and bailed are the same.



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