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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: JimmyD3 on November 26, 2013, 10:42:01 AM
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Its too easy to pork the Strats, we need more defensive puffy ack, or manned guns or something to enhance the Strat defenses. :frown:
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Its too easy to pork the Strats, we need more defensive puffy ack, or manned guns or something to enhance the Strat defenses. :frown:
In my first three B-29 sorties this tour I lost 3 bombers to puffy... :noid
But seriously, how about actively defending the strats by flying a fighter? I know, that's a weird proposal these days, but it actually works.
That is, it could work if players a) would notice anything beyond the red dots in the sector they are in and b) wouldnt think they are "wasting their time" flying a 20minute 20k sortie but at the same time would happily 60 spend minutes in a goon trying to resupp the strats
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While I fly mostly MW, we have a similar problem with porking Strats. If we have strat runners, I do up a fighter to intercept. But they are still too easy to pork.
I have noticed in LW every time I log in it seems the Strats are already down, with more bombers on the way. You are correct in that no one seems to want to do any defense on the strats, except for a small minority. :frown:
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While I fly mostly MW, we have a similar problem with porking Strats. If we have strat runners, I do up a fighter to intercept. But they are still too easy to pork.
I have noticed in LW every time I log in it seems the Strats are already down, with more bombers on the way. You are correct in that no one seems to want to do any defense on the strats, except for a small minority. :frown:
I agree with this, while Late War if you approach the Strats you might get some interest far quicker then other arenas - I do know quite a few times when I needed perks I just run over to the strats at 25k and rarely got interest.
I say if there are no fighters within 30 miles of the strats, double the Ack, if so then reduce the ack.
Thus would keep things on a fair level for people just porking, vs strategy.
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I think attacking the strats alone should almost be suicide. Same with attacking a carrier group.
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I think attacking the strats alone should almost be suicide.
It is when I'm defending them!! :old: :banana:
Oh no, I'm going full Manawar ... HELP! :uhoh :bhead
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It is when I'm defending them!! :old: :banana:
Oh no, I'm going full Manawar ... HELP! :uhoh :bhead
:rofl
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I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.
As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.
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I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.
As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.
Didn't they "fix" that??? :headscratch:
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Didn't they "fix" that??? :headscratch:
Not for me :mad:.
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I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.
As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.
Wrong, but I am tired of explaining it to people who just post a whine and run, never seeing the answer.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356002.75.html
seems alot like this thread with the M3 resupply complaints.
Mostly it's much ado about nothing :aok
Complaints of M3's resupplying yet the complainers clearly do not want to or have tried to destroy them, and complaints about bombers when (probably the same complainers) do not bother to attack them.
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Oh, and BTW speaking of Strats...
(http://wunder2.greyfalcon.us/pictures/me163.jpg)
Strat raiders sure have it easy... :rofl
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356002.75.html
seems alot like this thread with the M3 resupply complaints.
Mostly it's much ado about nothing :aok
Complaints of M3's resupplying yet the complainers clearly do not want to or have tried to destroy them, and complaints about bombers when (probably the same complainers) do not bother to attack them.
Because I would rather spend my time dodging wirbles and killing M3's then actually dogfighting...
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In my first three B-29 sorties this tour I lost 3 bombers to puffy... :noid
But seriously, how about actively defending the strats by flying a fighter? I know, that's a weird proposal these days, but it actually works.
That is, it could work if players a) would notice anything beyond the red dots in the sector they are in and b) wouldnt think they are "wasting their time" flying a 20minute 20k sortie but at the same time would happily 60 spend minutes in a goon trying to resupp the strats
I agree. I did some bomber missions during this tour and the puffy ack damaged my planes more often than I liked. I saw many interceptors on my sorties and I can understand why intercepting buffs can be a frustrating experience for some. Many upped a Bf-110, or some low altitude fighter to chase a 25000ft B-17 formation 1,5 sectors away from target. La7, Ki61, etc is not a good choice to pick because their performance is poor high up. When buffs drop their bombs they become a lot lighter and the climbing performance becomes equal to some fighters. I would also leave the 110 in the hangar unless you have a lot of time and patience. The right choice of an aircraft and flight path makes intercepting bombers faster and more fun.
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It took me two years to get my first 100 kills of B-29s. Just eight months later (and only seven of them playing) I am at 200 now. And that's only because of the 'indefensible' strats.
They are a great bomber magnet, and on many maps strat runners are quite easy to spot from long distances giving you ample time to get in position even in the case of 30+k B-29s. On top of that, on 10 out of 13 maps in the rotation a bomber guy is flying into Me 163 territory when attacking the factories, which in many cases simply amounts to suicide (and is very frustrating). It's a gamble for the average bomber pilot - is someone reading the map and willing to engage you?
And speaking of puffy ack: In the current year, I lost 33 bombers over enemy strats to puffy ack so far, including 20(!) B-29s. On the other hand, I lost only 10 B-29s to players. It's not that puffy ain't hurting you already.. ;)
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Because I would rather spend my time dodging wirbles and killing M3's then actually dogfighting...
God, you really are bitter than anyone would dare presume to do something other than dogfight, aren't you :lol.
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OP: NO
For reasons Lusche stated.
Watch the map and up a ftr.
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I dunno. Every time I got for a strat run there is always half the enemy air force up waiting for me. Regardless if I fly at 30K or 30 feet. :salute
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I dunno. Every time I got for a strat run there is always half the enemy air force up waiting for me. Regardless if I fly at 30K or 30 feet. :salute
:ahand every time I log on, the strats are down. :furious
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Hmmmmmm.... No.
Puffy ack can be a hassle, and it's pretty annoying combined with 163's buzzing around you at 400-600Mp/H. There are so many ways to improve the bombers rather than ways to work against them. Add more targets I say, It's kind of boring having to sit on an hour long flight to strats, a 5 minute suspense run, and the another hour home! And before I get slapped in the face by "They [bomber crews] went for lengths 4 times that run, stop whining", isn't this a game, supposed to be fun, right? I just hate having nothing to do. At least the pilots in WWII had people on the intercom they could talk to, while I'm stuck slamming my head into a brick wall for entertainment, trying to see how much facial reconstruction I'm going to need when I get home. And pretty much, your options are: Hit a field swarming with fighters, hitting any other field will be useless as a contribution to your team, or you can, oh well, go to the strats! :bhead
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Has me now thinking about rail depots and what they supplied in WW2.
Rail from numerous regions in many different countries supplied both the Axis and Allied forces.
Fuel transported by rail and fuel depots were major targets. Toward the end of the war targeting the Wehrmacht/LW fuel supplies had enormous effect, probably to the tune of saving tens of thousands of Allied lives. In game hitting fuel strat or even the fuel supplies on the field has zero effect. ATM I don't know where the balance lies, imo the majority that don't horde would not want to enable the horde anymore than they already are by making fuel so important that it becomes a primary target. On the other hand it should have some relevant aspect in game.
hmmm
:salute
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Hmmmmmm.... No.
Puffy ack can be a hassle, and it's pretty annoying combined with 163's buzzing around you at 400-600Mp/H. There are so many ways to improve the bombers rather than ways to work against them. Add more targets I say, It's kind of boring having to sit on an hour long flight to strats, a 5 minute suspense run, and the another hour home! And before I get slapped in the face by "They [bomber crews] went for lengths 4 times that run, stop whining", isn't this a game, supposed to be fun, right? I just hate having nothing to do. At least the pilots in WWII had people on the intercom they could talk to, while I'm stuck slamming my head into a brick wall for entertainment, trying to see how much facial reconstruction I'm going to need when I get home. And pretty much, your options are: Hit a field swarming with fighters, hitting any other field will be useless as a contribution to your team, or you can, oh well, go to the strats! :bhead
My usual strat mission in a B17 lasts for 60min from takeoff to landing. On a large map, relocated strats or because of lost territory, it can take longer. If you are bored you can always fly a bit lower on your way to target and shoot at some interceptors. Large maps could benefit from more targets.
Boredom is one reason why I started to fly over enemy bases on the way to strats from time to time. Doing so gives the 88mm guys a chance to throw some shells and sometimes it gets pretty intense when the shells explode near or the tracers almost hit the aircraft. So far it is a very rare occasion when someone fires the 88mm. Flying over bases gives enough warning for the enemy to up a prop plane and intercept. If multiple cons or heavy cannon planes appear then it is time to go high and/or stealthy again.
I don`t agree that hitting any other field is useless. Destroying ords, troops, dar and vh at some other field can hinder the enemy`s supply, attack and defensive capabilities.
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I saw B26s fly through and bomb a specific strat making two passes at 6000 feet and they flew off not even smoking.
Other than the B26, everything else seems pretty OK except for getting killed by puffy ack at 33,000 feet in a fighter wildly turning at 400mph almost a half sector away.