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Title: I am tired of this
Post by: Tracerfi on December 01, 2013, 01:35:48 PM
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really annoying that The bishops are doing this 30-40 planes doing this is just moronic
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: mechanic on December 01, 2013, 01:40:04 PM
I think it's cool, I prefer too many targets than too few
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Tracerfi on December 01, 2013, 01:41:15 PM
I think it's cool, I prefer too many targets than too few
not really taking 2 bases inless than 5 mins with that tactic
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: BaldEagl on December 01, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
No, coming and whining about it on the BBs is moronic.  At least you know where to find a fight.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Tracerfi on December 01, 2013, 01:58:10 PM
No, coming and whining about it on the BBs is moronic.  At least you know where to find a fight.
thats exactly why i posted this its not a fight there is no way to defend against that
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: GhostCDB on December 01, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
thats exactly why i posted this its not a fight there is no way to defend against that


Kill the leader, they will fly around waiting for assignments.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: guncrasher on December 01, 2013, 02:00:49 PM
thats exactly why i posted this its not a fight there is no way to defend against that


nobody say to kill them all, just kill 2 or 3.  consider it a good job, anything over that and it's a great job.

for an excellent job go behind the pack and kill the goons.


semp
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: JOACH1M on December 01, 2013, 02:01:43 PM
That is my favorite thing to see in the game!
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Triton28 on December 01, 2013, 02:01:58 PM
This could be you:

(http://www.militaryaviation.eu/images/Messerschmitt/Me262_501244.jpg)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Zacherof on December 01, 2013, 02:07:05 PM
Kill the leader, they will fly around waiting for assignments.  :rolleyes:
Not everyone is gifted in the ways of the force! :old:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Latrobe on December 01, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
I love those big red blobs! Especially bish blobs since they literally kill themselves!  :lol :devil

Instead of flying away from these "hordes" why don't you all up and intercept it together? A lot of people see large red dar bars like this and think "I don't want to fight that." and they go where there are no red cons. Then they complain about their base being horded. I don't get it. You chose to let it get horded! I'm not complaining because it means more red planes for me to fight.  :D :joystick:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Zacherof on December 01, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
I love those big red blobs! Especially bish blobs since they literally kill themselves!  :lol :devil

Instead of flying away from these "hordes" why don't you all up and intercept it together? A lot of people see large red dar bars like this and think "I don't want to fight that." and they go where there are no red cons. Then they complain about their base being horded. I don't get it. You chose to let it get horded! I'm not complaining because it means more red planes for me to fight.  :D :joystick:
Well latrobe you like doing crazy stuff like flying 29's into red blobs..........but make an awesome decoy and bait :)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: BushLT1 on December 01, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
As a bish. I love when I see big mass of bad guys. I get few kills but I will never die over and over for a base.  Who cares number switch in 4 hours and then other sides just hordes it back. It's a game have fun.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 01, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
thats exactly why i posted this its not a fight there is no way to defend against that


Yes there is but you and others like you think it's far easier to come to the forums and whine about it then actually upping a plane and defending your base.

ack-ack
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: HighTone on December 01, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
I love see that big red blob. They make for some easy kills. They all horde together, and will fly in a straight line.....don't run....just dive in and get you some. Besides you can just look to the back of the blob....find their two or so goons and really fubar their mission timing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: earl1937 on December 01, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
Not everyone is gifted in the ways of the force! :old:
:airplane: For those of you who wish to join a "memorial" flight on Monday night, 8PM, EST, Rook VOX will be on 171 and we welcome all who wish to join in. Any Bish or Knights who wish to join in, PM me, ET37, and I will announce your joining in. I would just ask that you stay in formation, at least 5 K away and after you see the bombers, B-29's, turn 30 degrees one way or the other, then the fight will on! :salute
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: USCH on December 01, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
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really annoying that The bishops are doing this 30-40 planes doing this is just moronic

many many many moons ago I stopped caring about land, ya sure ill help attack or defend a base. But who cares if they "win" the field.

Am I the only one who can see that the maps change and rotate, and then rotate back again? Do you totally lose your mind when the map changes? Cuz if you think about it, map rotation means you have lost ALL your fields in a millisecond! Hohhot the humanity!
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Zacherof on December 01, 2013, 03:03:25 PM
:airplane: For those of you who wish to join a "memorial" flight on Monday night, 8PM, EST, Rook VOX will be on 171 and we welcome all who wish to join in. Any Bish or Knights who wish to join in, PM me, ET37, and I will announce your joining in. I would just ask that you stay in formation, at least 5 K away and after you see the bombers, B-29's, turn 30 degrees one way or the other, then the fight will on! :salute
Wish i could but im 1,700 miles away from my gear :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Debrody on December 01, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
262, and get 15 kills on the vulchers in 20 mins.
190D and get 7 kills but earn 20 perks in 20 minutes.
K4, get 5 kills but earn 25-30 perks in 20 minues.
 :aok
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Zacherof on December 01, 2013, 03:28:03 PM
262, and get 15 kills on the vulchers in 20 mins.
190D and get 7 kills but earn 20 perks in 20 minutes.
K4, get 5 kills but earn 25-30 perks in 20 minues.
 :aok
Orr get drunk and up 262, lose 600 perks in 5 minutes ;)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: jeep00 on December 01, 2013, 03:48:04 PM
This really truly honestly is not specific to bish and is useless to complain about in a country specific format. This happens all the time on all sides. In a lot of cases tuere is a huge green dar on my map and another huge red dar at some other part of the map and not a defensive one. I know because I am headed to that huge red dar. Deal with it, it happens, just work out how to find the good part using the methods others have posted.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Debrody on December 01, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
Orr get drunk and up 262, lose 600 perks in 5 minutes ;)
YEAH bro  :aok :aok :aok 
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Max on December 01, 2013, 04:27:44 PM
really annoying that The bishops are doing this 30-40 planes doing this is just moronic


(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1499/1e7c.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/1e7c.jpg/)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 01, 2013, 04:31:55 PM
Yes there is but you and others like you think it's far easier to come to the forums and whine about it then actually upping a plane and defending your base.

ack-ack

You and others like you drive players away from the game and kill it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: drmoo on December 01, 2013, 06:03:32 PM
This post a JOKE rooks tried double horde 77 76 spanked by alchs/jokers nits huge horde 113 spanked by alchs/ jokers anf ghi  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: i got many hordelits!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 :aok
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: HighTone on December 01, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
This post a JOKE rooks tried double horde 77 76 spanked by alchs/jokers nits huge horde 113 spanked by alchs/ jokers anf ghi  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: i got many hordelits!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 :aok

huh  :headscratch:

It looks like English, but it reads like Greek.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: FLOOB on December 01, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
It's the MA, planes are supposed to fly around in squadron strength.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: PFactorDave on December 01, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Well I'm tired of my 18year old daughter streaming music while I am playing AH...  Things get wonky...
Title: Re: I am tired of making whine threads
Post by: 68ZooM on December 01, 2013, 09:40:05 PM
I'm tired of fuzzy peaches  :old:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 01, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
You and others like you drive players away from the game and kill it. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Telling someone to up and defend their base is driving players away from the game?  :rofl

ack-ack
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Latrobe on December 01, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
Plenty of large hordes out this night. Both Red and Green. Plenty of things to shoot at for once! I was happy!  :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MK-84 on December 01, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2h85krt.jpg)
really annoying that The bishops are doing this 30-40 planes doing this is just moronic


I see a distinct lack of your aircraft icon in that picture.  If you are not opposing them, you are part of the problem :D

Now man up, put on your big boy flight suit and get down to business :aok

That picture is screaming to me to up a 262  :x
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MK-84 on December 01, 2013, 11:17:56 PM
Orr get drunk and up 262, lose 600 perks in 5 minutes ;)

 :uhoh
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Slate on December 02, 2013, 07:43:31 AM
  I was a lone 190 at an enemy base when such a horde was just upping. I flew at high speed through the stream from the back to the front. You should have seen the panic as they scrambled to avoid.  :lol 
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 02, 2013, 08:19:42 AM
Telling someone to up and defend their base is driving players away from the game?  :rofl

ack-ack

No, defending hording and telling players to just suck it up and get slaughtered 10 vs 1 is. Nobody I know of considers that as fun - not on the hording side and especially the defending side. You may try to "fight" against the horde, zoom down and kill one or two of them but then inevitably some hordeling in an LA7 is going to pick you in the process. Yay fun, right?  :x
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Scca on December 02, 2013, 08:41:43 AM
Nothing more than this needs to be said  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: RotBaron on December 02, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
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La7 has its uses...
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Golden Dragon on December 02, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
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La7 has its uses...

Yeah, it's the preferred ride of the biggest blowhards on 200 and helps with improving my kills per death and sortie ratings when it actually leans over and banks into a fight.  Admittedly rare as they're usually buggering off like brave Sir Robin after the one pass pick or ho failed.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: RotBaron on December 02, 2013, 10:59:49 PM
Yeah, it's the preferred ride of the biggest blowhards on 200 and helps with improving my kills per death and sortie ratings when it actually leans over and banks into a fight.  Admittedly rare as they're usually buggering off like brave Sir Robin after the one pass pick or ho failed.

Our experiences seem to differ quite a bit. I usually get quite a fight out of La's, although where I encounter them most is when they are defending a WF town. Are your encounters furballing?

When 200 gets blowhardish, I detune, so I guess I can't speak about that.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Golden Dragon on December 02, 2013, 11:16:43 PM
I finally switched from 200 during my last stint on Aces.  Should have done that a long time ago.  And our experiences do differ.  I fly a pony so they're fairly closely matched although I have greater success against them than vice versa when they actually choose to fight and it slows into a turn fight.  Most of the time it's not even booming and zooming which I could care less about.  That's a great tactic for any plane with alt and E and more power to them if they get me that way.  In my experience, far and away, if I'm jumped by a La it is almost always one pass then skiddaddle.  Unless of course he has friends.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: bozon on December 03, 2013, 01:18:27 AM
thats exactly why i posted this its not a fight there is no way to defend against that

You got the wrong approach. You don't defend against a horde - you attack the horde.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: puller on December 03, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
No, defending hording and telling players to just suck it up and get slaughtered 10 vs 1 is. Nobody I know of considers that as fun - not on the hording side and especially the defending side. You may try to "fight" against the horde, zoom down and kill one or two of them but then inevitably some hordeling in an LA7 is going to pick you in the process. Yay fun, right?  :x

So...I guess I should stay outta yalls little argument here but AKAK IMO is right....Anytime I see the horde coming I'm uppin' and ready for the fight...If they are vulching I try to up at least a few times before I'm upping at the nearest base heading to my cartoon death...I consider playing the game fun, it really doesn't matter to me if its 10 vs 1 or not...its not like you win money for having a good score and its really not like anyone gives a crap if your score is high either....the horde is, has, and will always be part of the game....I understand that some players try their hardest to only pick and run if the fights too hot...and come to the boards about the horde....but getting your cartoon airplane blown up and possibly blown up multiple times in a row isn't a reason to smash your joystick through your monitor
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: RotBaron on December 03, 2013, 09:57:02 AM
....but getting your cartoon airplane blown up and possibly blown up multiple times in a row isn't a reason to smash your joystick through your monitor


Peace found on the prairie? Maybe this city living is driving me nuts, the other day I almost had a PCL loadletter moment.

Seriously though, why does anybody up from a capped and feed the vulchers? I will if they are somewhat busy and there's a chance, but when it's swarming, uhhh no thanks, that's not a game it's clubbing.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Aspen on December 03, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
I up from capped fields all the time.  Avoiding the vulch and getting up enough to kill a couple is hard.  Hard = fun.   Upping 3-4 times in a vulch, killing a couple guys and getting whacked everytime is way more satisfying than buzzing around with E picking 6-8 guys and landing safely (in my opinion).  If its completely impossible to get up, then come in with alt and scatter them.  I'm just happy to find folks to point my plane at and go pewpewpew.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: waystin2 on December 03, 2013, 10:51:51 AM
I up from capped fields all the time.  Avoiding the vulch and getting up enough to kill a couple is hard.  Hard = fun.   Upping 3-4 times in a vulch, killing a couple guys and getting whacked everytime is way more satisfying than buzzing around with E picking 6-8 guys and landing safely (in my opinion).  If its completely impossible to get up, then come in with alt and scatter them.  I'm just happy to find folks to point my plane at and go pewpewpew.

Yeah, but you are Pig-headed... :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: jd on December 03, 2013, 10:51:58 AM
You know what im tired of? people posting screen shots with their frame rate info showing. you know you can turn that sh*&^ off, right? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: puller on December 03, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
I up from capped fields all the time.  Avoiding the vulch and getting up enough to kill a couple is hard.  Hard = fun.   Upping 3-4 times in a vulch, killing a couple guys and getting whacked everytime is way more satisfying than buzzing around with E picking 6-8 guys and landing safely (in my opinion).  If its completely impossible to get up, then come in with alt and scatter them.  I'm just happy to find folks to point my plane at and go pewpewpew.

 :aok

That's what I'm talking about...very seldom do you find me in the stratosphere (unless hunting pickers  :noid ) I have lots of fun upping at capped fields swatting down hoarders...getting vulched or swarmed is just a hazard...If you don't think its fair just HO more  :rofl
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Wiley on December 03, 2013, 12:30:47 PM
I can't help but think if about 10% of the people who whine about hording were to up at the same time the giant red darbar first appears taking off to oppose it, it wouldn't be an unopposed horde, it would be a fight.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Randy1 on December 03, 2013, 01:21:16 PM
Last night we were horded. Fighters were down so I upped an A20 on 25% fuel.  Well, several of them.  Had a great time.  That A20 catches a lot of people sleeping.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 03, 2013, 01:50:09 PM
I can't help but think if about 10% of the people who whine about hording were to up at the same time the giant red darbar first appears taking off to oppose it, it wouldn't be an unopposed horde, it would be a fight.

Wiley.

You would have had turkeys to shoot that's the only difference. It makes little difference if it's 1 vs 10 or 3 vs 10.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 03, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
I can't help but think if about 10% of the people who whine about hording were to up at the same time the giant red darbar first appears taking off to oppose it, it wouldn't be an unopposed horde, it would be a fight.

Wiley.

And those same 10% also whine about not being able to find a fight.

ack-ack
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Wiley on December 03, 2013, 02:11:57 PM
You would have had turkeys to shoot that's the only difference. It makes little difference if it's 1 vs 10 or 3 vs 10.

1:3 odds when you've got alt on the heavy bandits?  That's a buffet.

I'm not talking about once they're over the field or even in the friendly dar.  I mean the first few minutes when the giant red bardar first shows when they take off.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrGeezer on December 03, 2013, 02:33:29 PM
If you think when the bishops do it is gawd aweful horrible just hide behind a bush and see when the rooks and knights do it.

NO SIDE does to another that the others don't do to them.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 03, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
1:3 odds when you've got alt on the heavy bandits?  That's a buffet.

I'm not talking about once they're over the field or even in the friendly dar.  I mean the first few minutes when the giant red bardar first shows when they take off.

Wiley.

I'd like to see you eat on that buffet Wiley. 3 vs 10 can and often means that 5 of them are chasing you while the rest 5 are tangling with your 2 remaining friends. Basically in this kind of situation you need to have a very high performing plane, keep your alt advantage and b&z the enemy untill a higher enemy comes over and forces you to either commit and get raped or escape.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: wpeters on December 03, 2013, 03:29:54 PM
I love those big red blobs! Especially bish blobs since they literally kill themselves!  :lol :devil

Instead of flying away from these "hordes" why don't you all up and intercept it together? A lot of people see large red dar bars like this and think "I don't want to fight that." and they go where there are no red cons. Then they complain about their base being horded. I don't get it. You chose to let it get horded! I'm not complaining because it means more red planes for me to fight.  :D :joystick:

Another way is just to hover 2000ft over the top of the herd.  If 38's wait and see how many proxies you get from them compressing in a dive.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: PFactorDave on December 03, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
Another way is just to hover 2000ft over the top of the herd.  If 38's wait and see how many proxies you get from them compressing in a dive.

I was once in a Wirbel on a field attacked by that V Squad...  It was raining P51s that day. 
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Wiley on December 03, 2013, 03:39:42 PM
I'd like to see you eat on that buffet Wiley. 3 vs 10 can and often means that 5 of them are chasing you while the rest 5 are tangling with your 2 remaining friends. Basically in this kind of situation you need to have a very high performing plane, keep your alt advantage and b&z the enemy untill a higher enemy comes over and forces you to either commit and get raped or escape.

Is a P47D-11 a very high performing plane?  How about an F4U-1?

Of course the three of you have to keep it fast, you have to BnZ, and a higher plane is a threat.  If the 3 of you don't at least somewhat work together, it's not going to go well either.  If you've kept your E though, you can work that higher plane if and when he shows up.

Committing in ANY crowd is going to get you killed more often than not.  For those planes to engage you effectively though, they're going to have to drop their ords.  That slows the horde somewhat, giving your side more time for the latecomers to grab.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Lazerr on December 03, 2013, 03:50:00 PM
perk the training wheel planes!  I would much rather fight 5 p47's than 5 spit16's, especially in a mass of red like that!
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: SPKmes on December 03, 2013, 04:10:10 PM
If you think when the bishops do it is gawd aweful horrible just hide behind a bush and see when the rooks and knights do it.

NO SIDE does to another that the others don't do to them.

I have to disagree with this...yes all sides horde...however....how they conduct themselves within a hording base take and is very different matter......

Bish is just plain madness...absolutely no style at all....hmmm well they do have a style..theirs, they kick bite scratch pull hair and flatten everything with no regard..why care...we can just up again..eventually they won't be able to defend and we will get it boys...just keep going and even before the base is taken the next mass of planes is ready to lift...when rolling like this there is absolutely no care for defense, bang crash bang...let's flatten the world boys  whoop whoop........

Knits... what can you say?!?!...when they finally turn up in the same area at the same time they will offer a little bit of variety...this shows in how they lose total advantage many many times...if they are lucky either somebody actually gets a little order within the ranks and they get a base( I think that this is due more to the confusion of the opposing side,  the wonderment of oh look they have some order messes with the mindset they have got set into, and by the time they snap out of it knits have snuck in a troop carrier ...
or they will accidentally get troops to the map room and call around to find out who got them in...as it is as much of a surprise to them as it is to the opposition...

 Rooks are by far the most systematic and professional.....they take and resupply before rolling another base, they have and maintain an actual fighter cap...not some sporadic group session of lead and explosions... they also generally keep things up so that they can actually give a small sense of hope to the opposition....and let's be honest, get some cheap kills too ;))

Now there are exceptions for sure...however in general terms, this is my unofficial laymans observations....I have defended against all sides in all types of frenzied states and this is how I see it more often than not....and I hate all sides equally  :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: SPKmes on December 03, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
perk the training wheel planes!  I would much rather fight 5 p47's than 5 spit16's, especially in a mass of red like that!

hear hear!
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: The Fugitive on December 03, 2013, 04:31:59 PM
Another way is just to hover 2000ft over the top of the herd.  If 38's wait and see how many proxies you get from them compressing in a dive.

Yup those are the kind of fights I like....hoping for proxies  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: whiteman on December 03, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
Things i do in these situations.

1. climb to about 20k to be sure I'm above the blob, most of them are in a hurry to kill one building so they are usually 7-10k
2. start off outside their radar ring and look for Jabos to pick.
3. kill Jabos that just made their run on town/base while they are climbing back up.
4. kill goons if I'm low enough to see them.
5. Ho every spit16 in sight

You are not going to stop it but you can ruin some of their days, they want to live otherwise they wouldn't fly in packs of 30
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: icepac on December 03, 2013, 06:18:09 PM
Read the dar bars and you will rarely be caught off guard.

Most guys break dar when they take off or as they try to level NOE so you can easily see most NOE attacks when they up because a sizable dar bar shows and disappears just as quickly.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Changeup on December 03, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
A.  AKAK is always right

B.  I wish I was at A78 when this screen shot was taken

C.  There is estrogen in this thread

D.  All of the Above

Correct answer: D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: RotBaron on December 03, 2013, 09:51:33 PM
You know what im tired of? people posting screen shots with their frame rate info showing. you know you can turn that sh*&^ off, right? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

my fr wasn't in the screenshot, but I'll take one with it just for you if you like    :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: save on December 04, 2013, 03:38:54 AM
Finding 10+ lower heavy p38's flying to target is as close as a Christmas gift you can get 
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrGeezer on December 04, 2013, 07:40:20 AM
I have to disagree with this...yes all sides horde...however....how they conduct themselves within a hording base take and is very different matter......

Bish is just plain madness...absolutely no style at all....hmmm well they do have a style..theirs, they kick bite scratch pull hair and flatten everything with no regard..why care...we can just up again..eventually they won't be able to defend and we will get it boys...just keep going and even before the base is taken the next mass of planes is ready to lift...when rolling like this there is absolutely no care for defense, bang crash bang...let's flatten the world boys  whoop whoop........

Knits... what can you say?!?!...when they finally turn up in the same area at the same time they will offer a little bit of variety...this shows in how they lose total advantage many many times...if they are lucky either somebody actually gets a little order within the ranks and they get a base( I think that this is due more to the confusion of the opposing side,  the wonderment of oh look they have some order messes with the mindset they have got set into, and by the time they snap out of it knits have snuck in a troop carrier ...
or they will accidentally get troops to the map room and call around to find out who got them in...as it is as much of a surprise to them as it is to the opposition...

 Rooks are by far the most systematic and professional.....they take and resupply before rolling another base, they have and maintain an actual fighter cap...not some sporadic group session of lead and explosions... they also generally keep things up so that they can actually give a small sense of hope to the opposition....and let's be honest, get some cheap kills too ;))

Now there are exceptions for sure...however in general terms, this is my unofficial laymans observations....I have defended against all sides in all types of frenzied states and this is how I see it more often than not....and I hate all sides equally  :D

All sides hoard.  All sides hord dweebishly.

Not seeing that is only misleading yourself.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Scca on December 04, 2013, 07:54:15 AM
All sides hoard.  All sides hord dweebishly.

As a member of a squad that rotates, I 100% agree. 
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: GhostCDB on December 04, 2013, 08:00:15 AM
A.  AKAK is always right

B.  I wish I was at A78 when this screen shot was taken

C.  There is estrogen in this thread

D.  All of the Above

Correct answer: D

I don't even argue with him, its pointless.  :old:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Golden Dragon on December 04, 2013, 09:44:45 AM
Finding 10+ lower heavy p38's flying to target is as close as a Christmas gift you can get 

Agreed, I have in a single booming and zooming p51 broken up many Bish P38 raids and 1 47 raid.  So much fun swooping in and targeting a guy until he jettisons ords and then switching to his buddy who doesn't and shooting him down.  Next pass they learn and they all jettison as I switch from one to another.  I'm looking forward to being home in a couple of days and busting up more hordes.   :cheers:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Aspen on December 04, 2013, 10:29:28 AM
Those 40 red dots aren't AI planes generated by HTC.  They are players that enjoy flying in the horde. Few will post here saying how they love flying in the horde, smashing a base and vulching but the fact is many, many players enjoy it.  My take is that most folks think hordes are fine if its their horde.

I've been in a friendly horde with some of the most ardent anti-horders and they oddly seemed pretty happy.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: MrGeezer on December 04, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
As absolute phenomenally crazy as this is going to sound....people actual pay their sub to fly how THEY want.

You cannot and will not change that by whining, complaining, cowtowing, browbeating, or posting about it ad infinitum on the formum.

Welcome to reality.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Iraqvet on December 04, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
All sides hoard.  All sides hord dweebishly.

Not seeing that is only misleading yourself.

Spot on ... :aok
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Sg11 on December 11, 2013, 05:16:52 AM
This could be you:

(http://www.militaryaviation.eu/images/Messerschmitt/Me262_501244.jpg)
:)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: LCADolby on December 11, 2013, 06:06:02 AM
I have to disagree with this...yes all sides horde...however....how they conduct themselves within a hording base take and is very different matter......

Bish is just plain madness...absolutely no style at all....hmmm well they do have a style..theirs, they kick bite scratch pull hair and flatten everything with no regard..why care...we can just up again..eventually they won't be able to defend and we will get it boys...just keep going and even before the base is taken the next mass of planes is ready to lift...when rolling like this there is absolutely no care for defense, bang crash bang...let's flatten the world boys  whoop whoop........

Knits... what can you say?!?!...when they finally turn up in the same area at the same time they will offer a little bit of variety...this shows in how they lose total advantage many many times...if they are lucky either somebody actually gets a little order within the ranks and they get a base( I think that this is due more to the confusion of the opposing side,  the wonderment of oh look they have some order messes with the mindset they have got set into, and by the time they snap out of it knits have snuck in a troop carrier ...
or they will accidentally get troops to the map room and call around to find out who got them in...as it is as much of a surprise to them as it is to the opposition...

 Rooks are by far the most systematic and professional.....they take and resupply before rolling another base, they have and maintain an actual fighter cap...not some sporadic group session of lead and explosions... they also generally keep things up so that they can actually give a small sense of hope to the opposition....and let's be honest, get some cheap kills too ;))

Now there are exceptions for sure...however in general terms, this is my unofficial laymans observations....I have defended against all sides in all types of frenzied states and this is how I see it more often than not....and I hate all sides equally  :D
5 years and it has not changed. :aok


(I'm going to murder statistics here, but it's the sentiment that is the important thing.)

That OPscreenie is where the 90% hang out, and where the 10% get their kills.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: FLOOB on December 12, 2013, 12:06:52 AM
Knits... what can you say?!?!...when they finally turn up in the same area at the same time they will offer a little bit of variety...this shows in how they lose total advantage many many times...if they are lucky either somebody actually gets a little order within the ranks and they get a base( I think that this is due more to the confusion of the opposing side,  the wonderment of oh look they have some order messes with the mindset they have got set into, and by the time they snap out of it knits have snuck in a troop carrier ...
or they will accidentally get troops to the map room and call around to find out who got them in...
That we may publicly shame the perpetrator for being a real estate nerd.

A great warrior once said. "Bish are Romans. Rooks are Mongols. Knights are Vikings, they don't come for your land. If you keep running to ack though we will de ack the field. And then if you roll flack panzers we'll burn the VH. If the mood strikes us well burn the whole field, if it gets captured that's just incidental. Bombing knight land is probably relatively safe. Who cares about bombers, bombers can't fight. To a knight fighting isn't an endeavor to be rewarded victory because to a knight fighting is the reward."

Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Volron on December 12, 2013, 11:47:50 AM

I am tired of this popping up on the forums over and over from the same guys. :bhead


Orr get drunk and up 262, lose 600 perks in 5 minutes ;)

That is not Vodka!  That is water!  Only way to explain why it takes you so long to loss 600 perks!

 :D
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: HL117 on December 13, 2013, 09:26:37 PM
- AKAK is right

- Changup's post is correct Estrogen proliferates this post

- Estrogen will grow you Man Boobs

- Man Boobs make you look silly

Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: captain1ma on December 14, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
OR you could call everyone over when you spot a horde coming to defend against it. way back when, jg54 would hit undefended bases just to start a fight. these guys do the same thing. you see em coming. call it out on channel and surprise them. its loads of fun for both sides!! there is nothing like trying to defend a base against innumerable odds!!

and if its a points thing with you, then you probably shouldnt be playing anyway..
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: The Fugitive on December 14, 2013, 03:23:26 PM
OR you could call everyone over when you spot a horde coming to defend against it. way back when, jg54 would hit undefended bases just to start a fight. these guys do the same thing. you see em coming. call it out on channel and surprise them. its loads of fun for both sides!! there is nothing like trying to defend a base against innumerable odds!!

and if its a points thing with you, then you probably shouldnt be playing anyway..


Yes, "way back when..." I remember those days. Too bad they are not like today.  :( Now you call out an attack coming in and you get the same few players to help out. For most it isn't a "score thing" it's a "I'm tired of fighting 5 against 1 all the time" thing. If your not in the top 5% of the cartoon fighter pilots than you have very little chance of standing up against the horde. How much fun can you have dieing all the time with out having much of a chance at winning?

I don't think the hordes would such a problem if you could get the numbers down to maybe 2 vs 1. Attackers would still have numbers, but defenders would have the base to reup and get back into the fight. Of course that would bring in more strategy and they would have to cover the goon, and plan for stuff like that.  :huh
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: bustr on December 14, 2013, 04:09:38 PM
Don't forget the bish and rook furball backup hoards at 25k and 30k waiting to come in and save the first wave furball hoard at 20k if they can't kill the 1 guy against 20 in 30 seconds. That usually means he's a 5%er and has to be crushed, or one of the 20 guys in the first furball hoard won't make it home alive.

Knights are lazy, they have no interest in climbing to 20k for a furball. Asking them to form up for a 20k fighter sweep gets you called worse things than they call the "alt sissy" bish and rook furball hoards. Ever notice you save your nastiest observations for those closest to you...... 

Lately the bish and rooks have been trying to use that against the knights as ACM BS'd with the title strategy. They still have to come down and fight some day before their fuel runs out. And then as usual, the "Vikings" quickly send them home to bring more planes to be shot down. It's just getting boring these days with the small window called prime time waiting for the bish and rooks to waste 2\3 of it climbing to 20k, and then milling around up there before they come down and fight. And it turns out the new ACM altitude strategy is really HO everyone you can as you are diving at 500 for the deck. Pull up, rinse and repeat. Then run away and get separation while looking to join up with the next 20k hoard of cavalry coming in to save everyone from the evil lazy knights milling around on the deck.

There are 5%er exceptions in both the bish and rook countries. The problem is, that's such a statisticaly small number of players in any engagement. So the vast majority are doing the 500mph spit in your face dive for life from 20k now days.

I feel for the guys in Yaks who climb to 20k and limit their play time to a few minutes before they run out of fuel. If 20k is the new norm. It would be nice if Hitech changed the fuel burn back to 1.5. It would give me more time  dodging the 25k and 30k furball backup rescue hoards when I'm up there by myself at 20k in a spit14 hunting for them. My theory is they will think I'm a 5%er and avoid me for fear of being shot down, and I won't have to show them how really lame I am. Since only 5%er's challenge hoards alone in this game and come away in one piece.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: GhostCDB on December 14, 2013, 04:22:52 PM
Just fly.  :banana:
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Fulcrum on December 15, 2013, 03:59:12 PM

 Fulcrum:

  - Peeks IN.
  - Sees nothing interesting but finds himself agreeing with the previous post.
  - Decides to postpone logging back in for a few more days.

 :aok
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: guncrasher on December 15, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
Fulcrum:

  - Peeks IN.
  - Sees nothing interesting but finds himself agreeing with the previous post.
  - Decides to postpone logging back in for a few more days.

 :aok

if you arent gonna use your stick can I borrow it?



semp
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Fulcrum on December 15, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
if you arent gonna use your stick can I borrow it?



semp

Nope.   :P

 :D

I am using it...in another game.  And no, not War Blunder or World of WarpedPlanes.   :rock
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Widewing on December 15, 2013, 10:05:25 PM
- AKAK is right

- Changup's post is correct Estrogen proliferates this post

- Estrogen will grow you Man Boobs

- Man Boobs make you look silly


(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/6609_1202672672340_2568763_n.jpg)
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Fulcrum on December 15, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/6609_1202672672340_2568763_n.jpg)

Are you stalking me and taking photos, Ww?   :D

 :lol
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Scca on December 16, 2013, 04:50:25 AM
Widewing. Some things can't be unseen.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: dirtdart on December 16, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
Bustr could not agree more. Great furball on Saturday with one squad on the rook side zipping through the furball in lw high e rides hoing everything they could. It really got under my skin. I am getting pretty fed up with the its my 15 bucks attitude guys have. I pay 15 bucks to fight. Some guys pay 15 bucks to ruin another guys day. I wish there were a way to hinder those guys that go out of their way to be tools.
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Mister Fork on December 16, 2013, 09:50:16 AM
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/6609_1202672672340_2568763_n.jpg)
(shudders) Now I'm going to have nightmares about that image...
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: doc1kelley on December 16, 2013, 10:49:27 AM
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/6609_1202672672340_2568763_n.jpg)

Now that is just plain wrong of the first order. ROFLOL

All the Best...

   Jay
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: 1ijac on December 16, 2013, 02:55:34 PM
Don't forget the bish and rook furball backup hoards at 25k and 30k waiting to come in and save the first wave furball hoard at 20k if they can't kill the 1 guy against 20 in 30 seconds. That usually means he's a 5%er and has to be crushed, or one of the 20 guys in the first furball hoard won't make it home alive.

Knights are lazy, they have no interest in climbing to 20k for a furball. Asking them to form up for a 20k fighter sweep gets you called worse things than they call the "alt sissy" bish and rook furball hoards. Ever notice you save your nastiest observations for those closest to you...... 

Lately the bish and rooks have been trying to use that against the knights as ACM BS'd with the title strategy. They still have to come down and fight some day before their fuel runs out. And then as usual, the "Vikings" quickly send them home to bring more planes to be shot down. It's just getting boring these days with the small window called prime time waiting for the bish and rooks to waste 2\3 of it climbing to 20k, and then milling around up there before they come down and fight. And it turns out the new ACM altitude strategy is really HO everyone you can as you are diving at 500 for the deck. Pull up, rinse and repeat. Then run away and get separation while looking to join up with the next 20k hoard of cavalry coming in to save everyone from the evil lazy knights milling around on the deck.

There are 5%er exceptions in both the bish and rook countries. The problem is, that's such a statisticaly small number of players in any engagement. So the vast majority are doing the 500mph spit in your face dive for life from 20k now days.

I feel for the guys in Yaks who climb to 20k and limit their play time to a few minutes before they run out of fuel. If 20k is the new norm. It would be nice if Hitech changed the fuel burn back to 1.5. It would give me more time  dodging the 25k and 30k furball backup rescue hoards when I'm up there by myself at 20k in a spit14 hunting for them. My theory is they will think I'm a 5%er and avoid me for fear of being shot down, and I won't have to show them how really lame I am. Since only 5%er's challenge hoards alone in this game and come away in one piece.

There might be a few that never boom and zoom, but all 3 countries have their fair share of high alt pickers.  It's a method of killing enemy.  Most pilots have used this strategy at one time or another.  Heck Bustr, your squad has several pilots that use that strategy almost 100% of the time.  The knights do exactly what the bishops and rooks do.  I was a knight for 12 or so years.  Since I started flying on the rook side about a year ago, I see the same thing you accuse the bishops and rooks of doing done by the knights.  In reality, it's just a game.  Laugh and have fun and don't take things so seriously.  I know I have to remind myself of this at times.

one-eye
Title: Re: I am tired of this
Post by: Fulcrum on December 16, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/6609_1202672672340_2568763_n.jpg)

Hey!  No fair....I've lost weight since that picture was taken!  :D