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Title: Please....
Post by: ink on December 20, 2013, 05:25:20 PM
this is as close to me begging as you will ever see


Please Hitech...please

change the 12 hr rule...at the least during off peak hours ....when there is less the 50-60 guys on its extremely difficult to engage actual enemy.

to something like every half hour, the fight what there is.... changes and flows so quickly.....

even when it is high numbers the fight fluctuates so rapidly....it truly needs to be lowered to a more reasonable time....

2 hours at peak hours would be perfect.....

well personally I think you should be able to change at will, with maybe the loss of coms and/or inability to take ords...for a set period of time so you cant switch to find CVs the go sink them......


seriously please consider this wish as many folks really just enjoy combat and the 12 hr rule makes it difficult with the game dynamics as they are.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 20, 2013, 05:30:15 PM
this is as close to me begging as you will ever see


Please Hitech...please

change the 12 hr rule...at the least during off peak hours ....when there is less the 50-60 guys on its extremely difficult to engage actual enemy.

to something like every half hour, the fight what there is.... changes and flows so quickly.....

even when it is high numbers the fight fluctuates so rapidly....it truly needs to be lowered to a more reasonable time....

2 hours at peak hours would be perfect.....

well personally I think you should be able to change at will, with maybe the loss of coms and/or inability to take ords...for a set period of time so you cant switch to find CVs the go sink them......


seriously please consider this wish as many folks really just enjoy combat and the 12 hr rule makes it difficult with the game dynamics as they are.

I would say leave it as it is during prime time.  but when it gets to 50 or 60 drop it to 15 minutes or so.  an hour when there's 50 guys on is like forever.


semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: waystin2 on December 20, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
I can get behind a wish for the off-peak switch times being shortened.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 20, 2013, 05:36:01 PM
 that would be much better....for those times....

peak time needs a change also...the numbers and style has just changed so much, there are far more land grabbers now then ever, and to fight that hoard as it moves around the map, we need the ability to change sides, if I am truly trying to fight the gang I wont care about losing coms and ords...that way there can be no "spying" or sinking CVs.....(of course there is always ways around that)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: mthrockmor on December 20, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
+1

I have not had to fly much for the past month or so. It seems when I get in, there is a decent dar bar and by the time I get into the fight, it's gone. That is mostly the result of low numbers though if I could jump around during off-hours to get in a fight, stick time would go up for me.

Last time I faced this instead of logging and out of desperate boredom I strapped on (facepalm) a flight of B-24s....

boo
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Tinkles on December 20, 2013, 05:52:34 PM
+1

 :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Plazus on December 20, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I second this request. This is part of the reason I don't play much these days.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Fulcrum on December 20, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
+8000
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: HawkerMKII on December 20, 2013, 08:34:35 PM
I am saying this with SOME respect......GET GLASSES.....what is the deal with people saying they can't find a fight or I can't find a fight unless I can switch sides. Lame Lame Lame. Go bish and you'll find rookettes/nitswits vs bish almost every night.....fights, fights and more fights. Oh wait maybe it's " I can't pick unless I switch". What ever it is you don't seem to look very hard to find  a fight and don't blame the 12 hr rule, blame youself :bolt:
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: mthrockmor on December 20, 2013, 08:46:04 PM
Question: Would a variation of this request be to have only two countries? I have read the explanation on why it remains three countries. Would that change if it were only two countries?

boo
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on December 20, 2013, 08:46:20 PM
Notice how the players with the highest scores rotate teams and are always looking for the greater good of themselves.  :rolleyes:

But not like I haven't done it before too.  :D

So... +1
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Latrobe on December 20, 2013, 08:48:17 PM
+Everything and then more!!!

I find I've logged off a lot more since the 12 hour change because the action is on the opposite side of the map and I'm stuck in boringtown for 9 more hours.  :(
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on December 20, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
+Everything and then more!!!

I find I've logged off a lot more since the 12 hour change because the action is on the opposite side of the map and I'm stuck in boringtown for 9 more hours.  :(
Well, you could.... fly a..... bomber....  :uhoh     :airplane: Go to strats 9 times!
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 20, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
I am saying this with SOME respect......GET GLASSES.....what is the deal with people saying they can't find a fight or I can't find a fight unless I can switch sides. Lame Lame Lame. Go bish and you'll find rookettes/nitswits vs bish almost every night.....fights, fights and more fights. Oh wait maybe it's " I can't pick unless I switch". What ever it is you don't seem to look very hard to find  a fight and don't blame the 12 hr rule, blame youself :bolt:

my fight is probably different then yours... :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: MrKrabs on December 20, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Why join a fight when you can go start one yourself?
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BaldEagl on December 20, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
Since I've been here I've been a Bish and only changed two or three times and only until I could change back.  Once I was so PO'd at the Bish I swithced to attack them and another time was to fly with someone else specifically.  But that's just me.  I was also always a AZ in AW.  Then it seemed there was always a larger rivalry with the CZ and now it's the Knits.

In all that time the fights (define however you want) have ebbed and flowed.  Many times you fly to an area and the fight dries up, other times you head for a small darbar that quickly grows or you decide to follow the horde only to find they're all RTB leaving you alone flying into the hornets nest they've stirred up.  Sometimes both opposing countries are only fighting you and other times there's no opposition on either side of you.

And all that time the game is ebbing and flowing.  It doe's it in many wavelengths and does them all at once.  Occasionally you'll find yourself at the top or bottom of all the combined cycles as they converge, other times the cycles will feel quite fast but there's always a deeper, underlying current.  That's how the game feels to me after all these years.  I'm glad I've stuck to one country through good and bad otherwise I might not have experienced it.

People wanting to switch sides are no issue to me.  It may change some of the shorter cycles but the deeper game will continue to ebb and flow and, if you're patient, the fight will come to you.

My vote would be for making side switch time equal to the historical average, which IIRC is about 12 hours.  Anything else would be a disruption in the force.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Zacherof on December 20, 2013, 11:14:21 PM
that would be much better....for those times....

peak time needs a change also...the numbers and style has just changed so much, there are far more land grabbers now then ever, and to fight that hoard as it moves around the map, we need the ability to change sides, if I am truly trying to fight the gang I wont care about losing coms and ords...that way there can be no "spying" or sinking CVs.....(of course there is always ways around that)

Hmm I would look for ink, attempt to kill him, and then...well that next part never happens :mad:



But yes! I love switching sides at night when the fight is nil. One can milk run towns for only so long
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ReVo on December 21, 2013, 04:30:34 AM
Allow people to switch instantly to any side with fewer players then the side they're currently on, as many times and as frequently as they like.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Butcher on December 21, 2013, 04:54:20 AM
Hundreds of players simultaneously battle it out against each other in massive aerial dogfights and bomber raids. 

Problem is in off hours this isn't always the case - imagine you log in and see your country isn't doing anything, you switch countries and the fight brews for 30 minutes then dies down,  however your previous country starts fighting. Now you wait 30 minutes and nothing happens and log off.

I see no problem with people switching sides sooner (6 hours even 4 hours) - I will even go out and say if someone switches side (for example you can't win the war if you switched within 12 hours or so?) you cannot control CV's as well.

/Oh and +1 anything ink says
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 21, 2013, 08:31:11 AM
Allow people to switch instantly to any side with fewer players then the side they're currently on, as many times and as frequently as they like.

yep that's the version I like.. free switch to lowest populated country, anytime.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 21, 2013, 08:32:40 AM
Question: Would a variation of this request be to have only two countries? I have read the explanation on why it remains three countries. Would that change if it were only two countries?

boo

if there were only two countries, the war winner guys truly would all change to the "winning" side.

3 sides keeps it from getting more lopsided as it is.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 21, 2013, 02:33:36 PM
yep that's the version I like.. free switch to lowest populated country, anytime.


I agree that would be the best solution. :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BluBerry on December 21, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Allow people to switch instantly to any side with fewer players then the side they're currently on, as many times and as frequently as they like.

+1
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Reaper90 on December 21, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
I agree that would be the best solution. :aok

plus Juan

 :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: bustr on December 21, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
You guys know the unintended consequence is you will drive away the late night unskilled players because they will have no way to avoid you except logging off?

Their experience will become one of every time they up, a small hungry herd of lions will be waiting to turn their game experience into a bazar frustrating bad time. Most of them cannot, nor want to conceive of how you do what you do so very extremely well. They are paying for some fun and the fantasy of flying around doing what you do.

Guess you don't believe in conserving your source of "hunting game" to not kill the goose laying this egg.

I suspect short of posting nasty customer letters, there is no real way to tell how many in these economic times have chosen other venues than be eaten by the slightly more concentrated lions every time they up during the low numbers time in the MA these days. At least those remaining can avoid the nightly big furball because the 12 hour rule limits the participation to one side of the map.

You won't force them to become what they are not by killing their fun over and over and over. As a result, fewer subscriptions.

Ask for Hitech to add a function that can be set to player numbers, or a timer that reduces the play area down to a 10x10 or 8x8 center of the map saving all of the full map positions for the later re-expansion. Or your greed will drive out the last remaining players during late night who most are not ACM gauwds, nor care to be. Or the 5% of you can make use of that arena Hitech built just for your uber abilities called: The DA.

But, then if it was really about good quality fights, the DA would be packed with the 5% screaming to each other to get your kesters in there and away from the lameo MA fodder. This is really about feeding the fix once you are in feeding mode frenzy.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 21, 2013, 07:15:19 PM
You guys know the unintended consequence is you will drive away the late night unskilled players because they will have no way to avoid you except logging off?

Their experience will become one of every time they up, a small hungry herd of lions will be waiting to turn their game experience into a bazar frustrating bad time. Most of them cannot, nor want to conceive of how you do what you do so very extremely well.

at a certain point then, we're all not even playing the same game.. what's the point of even having everyone in the same arena?

the game is hard.. boohoo.

should there be PvP limits next, so an "ace" can't kill a noob?



Title: Re: Please....
Post by: LCADolby on December 21, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
You guys know the unintended consequence is you will drive away the late night unskilled players because they will have no way to avoid you except logging off?

 :lol
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BluBerry on December 21, 2013, 07:30:18 PM

Ask for Hitech to add a function that can be set to player numbers, or a timer that reduces the play area down to a 10x10 or 8x8 center of the map saving all of the full map positions for the later re-expansion. Or your greed will drive out the last remaining players during late night who most are not ACM gauwds, nor care to be. Or the 5% of you can make use of that arena Hitech built just for your uber abilities called: The DA.



(http://i.imgur.com/GmXbUWv.jpg)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: bustr on December 21, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
No, you are choosing to care only about "you" and not accepting the current circumstances for the near future that is keeping available targets after about 9:00 pm PST at an all time low. Until times change around the world and people have more disposable income along with the next eye candy updated version of the game. You need to consider the results of too few players, with too little skill, and what they will do with their disposable income if they are hounded everywhere on the map by no limits on side switching.

You self centered ACM, kill em all, and let god sort it out types are only 5% of the cash flow keeping the doors open. But, disproportionately effect the outcome of small and medium numbers engagements for everyone but other's like yourself. Yes the cowards leave the area because you suck the fun out of their play style. Give you unlimited jumping and they will leave the game all together. With 12 hours they have the odds on their side to play the game their way enough of the time to keep them paying a subscription.

In the past there was an excess of players to absorb the losses of the clueless weenies you guys ran out of here. 12 hours gives the survivor's the illusion that they can get some where while learning not to be cat food every time one of you self centered types eats them.

Switch at will or even every 60 minutes will concentrate you guys wherever the skill less are hiding with no respite to have fun playing the game their way. They will either quit out right, or everyone will be in tanks after a certain time every night. You may notice the being in tanks trend happening right now.

So which is it?

Shoot the goose today and feel really good in the short term?

Or,

See the reality of the times and husband your prey for awhile until times get better?

I don't see you guys in the DA much anymore. That's gotta be hard on the MA general low skilled population. It will only get worse if you can jump sides at will to hunt them down until they quit the game. 12 hours gives them a chance to learn the game while enjoying the process. 
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: LCADolby on December 21, 2013, 07:51:46 PM
I've spent more time this past year in the DA than I ever have done prior. I guess by the reasoning you have displayed, you must only care about you bustr otherwise you would have noticed.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BluBerry on December 21, 2013, 08:08:29 PM

Switch at will or even every 60 minutes will concentrate you guys wherever the skill less are hiding with no respite to have fun playing the game their way. They will either quit out right, or everyone will be in tanks after a certain time every night. You may notice the being in tanks trend happening right now.


Are you actually arguing that some uber 5% killing less skilled pilots is the engine behind an increasing popularity in tank warfare in Aces High?

You are out of your mind.

Tanks couldn't possibly be increasing in popularity due to anything else right?  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: caldera on December 21, 2013, 08:31:35 PM
No, you are choosing to care only about "you" and not accepting the current circumstances for the near future that is keeping available targets after about 9:00 pm PST at an all time low. Until times change around the world and people have more disposable income along with the next eye candy updated version of the game. You need to consider the results of too few players, with too little skill, and what they will do with their disposable income if they are hounded everywhere on the map by no limits on side switching.

You self centered ACM, kill em all, and let god sort it out types are only 5% of the cash flow keeping the doors open. But, disproportionately effect the outcome of small and medium numbers engagements for everyone but other's like yourself. Yes the cowards leave the area because you suck the fun out of their play style. Give you unlimited jumping and they will leave the game all together. With 12 hours they have the odds on their side to play the game their way enough of the time to keep them paying a subscription.

In the past there was an excess of players to absorb the losses of the clueless weenies you guys ran out of here. 12 hours gives the survivor's the illusion that they can get some where while learning not to be cat food every time one of you self centered types eats them.

Switch at will or even every 60 minutes will concentrate you guys wherever the skill less are hiding with no respite to have fun playing the game their way. They will either quit out right, or everyone will be in tanks after a certain time every night. You may notice the being in tanks trend happening right now.

So which is it?

Shoot the goose today and feel really good in the short term?

Or,

See the reality of the times and husband your prey for awhile until times get better?

I don't see you guys in the DA much anymore. That's gotta be hard on the MA general low skilled population. It will only get worse if you can jump sides at will to hunt them down until they quit the game. 12 hours gives them a chance to learn the game while enjoying the process. 

"Occupy Aces High":  the poor, poor 95%, they only wanted to be held!  (http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/smilies/violin.gif~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/smilies/violin.gif.html)

Of course your class system BS makes little sense, given that the 5% were also once part of the 95% and getting slaughtered too.  The difference is, some people get up, dust themselves off and get back into the fight.  They start to improve and the hunter becomes the hunted.  Or maybe we should just have a candle light vigil and wail over the injustice of having to work for success.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ReVo on December 21, 2013, 08:48:22 PM
I guess what I should take away from this is that all of us who want to dogfight should unsubscribe because we're evil bullies who won't let the base horders bomb hangars and vulch in peace?

Wonder what would have happened if Garry Kasparov was told he couldn't play Chess anymore because he was too good?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 21, 2013, 10:17:03 PM
IIRC, this thread was another wish to reduce side switch time.

I don't see how this hurts new or below average players. If anything, it would help them in the extreme situations when they are on the high # side and are under ENY limiting, if they really like their 51D or LA7, etc.

oh and also reducing prices for their perk planes/vehicles.


all for letting people leave the overpopulated side

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 22, 2013, 04:55:29 AM
IIRC, this thread was another wish to reduce side switch time.

I don't see how this hurts new or below average players. If anything, it would help them in the extreme situations when they are on the high # side and are under ENY limiting, if they really like their 51D or LA7, etc.

oh and also reducing prices for their perk planes/vehicles.


all for letting people leave the overpopulated side



nah.. I retract. everyone should be forced to stay on the overpopulated side for 12 hours.

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 22, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
nah.. I retract. everyone should be forced to stay on the overpopulated side for 12 hours.



don't switch to the over populated side to begin with.


semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 10:45:55 AM
don't switch to the over populated side to begin with.


semp

Backwards glasses.  ;)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: LCADolby on December 22, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
Of course your class system BS makes little sense, given that the 5% were also once part of the 95% and getting slaughtered too.  The difference is, some people get up, dust themselves off and get back into the fight.  They start to improve and the hunter becomes the hunted.  Or maybe we should just have a candle light vigil and wail over the injustice of having to work for success.

A truer post has never been found upon this forum.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 22, 2013, 12:40:54 PM
don't switch to the over populated side to begin with.


semp

never did. numbers swing throughout the day.


however since side switching is apparently evil, I suggest hitech randomly shuffles ALL players to new countries and increase side switch time to 12 months.


maybe not even 12 months. maybe make it forever. lock everyone into a country for life.

 :aok

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 22, 2013, 06:29:38 PM
Backwards glasses.  ;)

if you have 12 hours left before you can switch again, then you just moved to the overpopulated country.

semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BaldEagl on December 22, 2013, 06:33:40 PM
never did. numbers swing throughout the day.


however since side switching is apparently evil, I suggest hitech randomly shuffles ALL players to new countries and increase side switch time to 12 months.


maybe not even 12 months. maybe make it forever. lock everyone into a country for life.

 :aok



Hey, is this some of that reverse psycology stuff?
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 22, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
 :)


lol I just realized I think I misread semp's reply this morning..



see, this is what happens when you drink till 4 am on the first nite of a 4 day weekend.


 :cheers:




Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 06:38:46 PM
if you have 12 hours left before you can switch again, then you just moved to the overpopulated country.

semp

Hence you not getting why many are asking for the elimination of the 12 hour switch limit.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BluBerry on December 22, 2013, 10:06:44 PM
:)


lol I just realized I think I misread semp's reply this morning..



see, this is what happens when you drink till 4 am on the first nite of a 4 day weekend.


 :cheers:






 :cheers:
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 22, 2013, 10:41:16 PM
Hence you not getting why many are asking for the elimination of the 12 hour switch limit.

hence you dont get the, if you switch to the higher number country dont whine that you cant switch for another 12 hours.



semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 23, 2013, 03:18:23 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Megalodon on December 23, 2013, 10:11:41 AM
Hence you not getting why many are asking for the elimination of the 12 hour switch limit.

 Its not many its the same 12-15 people every time.

Hey Ar :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 23, 2013, 02:05:28 PM
hence you dont get the, if you switch to the higher number country dont whine that you cant switch for another 12 hours.

semp

Ok, who are you arguing that with? Get it now?  :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Zacherof on December 23, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
You guys know the unintended consequence is you will drive away the late night unskilled players because they will have no way to avoid you except logging off?

Their experience will become one of every time they up, a small hungry herd of lions will be waiting to turn their game experience into a bazar frustrating bad time. Most of them cannot, nor want to conceive of how you do what you do so very extremely well. They are paying for some fun and the fantasy of flying around doing what you do.

Guess you don't believe in conserving your source of "hunting game" to not kill the goose laying this egg.

I suspect short of posting nasty customer letters, there is no real way to tell how many in these economic times have chosen other venues than be eaten by the slightly more concentrated lions every time they up during the low numbers time in the MA these days. At least those remaining can avoid the nightly big furball because the 12 hour rule limits the participation to one side of the map.

You won't force them to become what they are not by killing their fun over and over and over. As a result, fewer subscriptions.

Ask for Hitech to add a function that can be set to player numbers, or a timer that reduces the play area down to a 10x10 or 8x8 center of the map saving all of the full map positions for the later re-expansion. Or your greed will drive out the last remaining players during late night who most are not ACM gauwds, nor care to be. Or the 5% of you can make use of that arena Hitech built just for your uber abilities called: The DA.

But, then if it was really about good quality fights, the DA would be packed with the 5% screaming to each other to get your kesters in there and away from the lameo MA fodder. This is really about feeding the fix once you are in feeding mode frenzy.
I have a solution. It's called throw yourself at the best players. Keep fighting and fighting till one day you start beating them. (Now if only I could beat my teachers)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: lunatic1 on December 27, 2013, 04:26:34 PM
Why join a fight when you can go start one yourself?
YYYEEESSSSSSSS mr krabs has it,see's it,knows it,as i suggested in in another post--about people wining about not finding a fight..go find a fight.go to ene base,u can fight the uppers that will come after you.and they WILL come after you.you can have your choice of planes to shoot down..if i want to find a gv fight,i spawn to a ene base. :airplane: :joystick:
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 27, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
YYYEEESSSSSSSS mr krabs has it,see's it,knows it,as i suggested in in another post--about people wining about not finding a fight..go find a fight.go to ene base,u can fight the uppers that will come after you.and they WILL come after you.you can have your choice of planes to shoot down..if i want to find a gv fight,i spawn to a ene base. :airplane: :joystick:

what I said in another thread...


sorry but it is fact.....many players will only engage when they have no chance of losing....

when 5 cons hit the deck and run to ack because a lone Ki84 appears.....something is wrong with the player base.

when 15 guys think that it is cool to attack 1 lone con...or would rather sit over a field and vulch...something is wrong with the player base......

when players would rather sit behind an enemy hanger and shoot the tanks as they spawn....something is wrong with the player base.....

when players would rather attack a field with 40-50 guys...NOE so they cant be seen......or call cheat when someone happens to find them....something is wrong with the players base.....


but in reality it is not the "player base" so much it is the way this country is and how people are in general now a days....

now a days you go to a "game" you get a trophy just for showing up....or you get rewards just for taking off...... rolleyes

the game play has been steadily going down hill.... I have been here since tour 52....if some say it hasn't..... then they need to get out of the green hord and see for themselves.(because yes there have always been hoards)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: lunatic1 on December 27, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
i perfer a 3hr side switch time,or even a 6hr..but since i only switched sides twice this year--and i don't switch sides to find a fight.just for a change of pace .it doesen't really matter to me
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: bustr on December 27, 2013, 04:57:53 PM
Why do you blame other people for not being interested in what interests you INK?

It's a bad world wide economy and the quality of people is exactly the same as 7 years ago. Not the numbers. You don't have the excess of those interested in what makes your goat get wood. You have smaller numbers so the proportions are more stark to the realities of what interests human beings. Seven years ago 5% of the daily arena population was quite large. Enough so you could spend inordinate amounts of time in the DA and still find 5%ers in the MA late at night.

Not now.

It's easy to tell them to suck it up and get another plane to feed themselves to you. It's harder to accept the reality of the times and suck it up with patience for the world to move along.

It's lame to blame them because you are unhappy.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 27, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
Why do you blame other people for not being interested in what interests you INK?

It's a bad world wide economy and the quality of people is exactly the same as 7 years ago. Not the numbers. You don't have the excess of those interested in what makes your goat get wood. You have smaller numbers so the proportions are more stark to the realities of what interests human beings. Seven years ago 5% of the daily arena population was quite large. Enough so you could spend inordinate amounts of time in the DA and still find 5%ers in the MA late at night.

Not now.

It's easy to tell them to suck it up and get another plane to feed themselves to you. It's harder to accept the reality of the times and suck it up with patience for the world to move along.

It's lame to blame them because you are unhappy.

gee I don't know....maybe when I clicked on the link of Aces high and downloaded the game...I expected to find other people who enjoyed Arial Combat.......for a long time thats exactly what I got.....very few people ran...yes there were hordes for sure....and pickers who ran........ but 99% any time you saw a lone con or 2 they fought.....not so much anymore.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ReVo on December 28, 2013, 06:47:10 AM
Why do you blame other people for not being interested in what interests you INK?

It's a bad world wide economy and the quality of people is exactly the same as 7 years ago. Not the numbers. You don't have the excess of those interested in what makes your goat get wood. You have smaller numbers so the proportions are more stark to the realities of what interests human beings. Seven years ago 5% of the daily arena population was quite large. Enough so you could spend inordinate amounts of time in the DA and still find 5%ers in the MA late at night.

Not now.

It's easy to tell them to suck it up and get another plane to feed themselves to you. It's harder to accept the reality of the times and suck it up with patience for the world to move along.

It's lame to blame them because you are unhappy.

When exactly are you planning to let go of this "It's your fault because you're good at something." thing?
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 28, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
When exactly are you planning to let go of this "It's your fault because you're good at something." thing?

Probably when the whining ceases.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ReVo on December 28, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
Probably when the whining ceases.

Nobody pulled your string.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: LCADolby on December 28, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
Nobody pulled your string.

It's faulty and goes off without warning, take it back to the toy store
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: bustr on December 28, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
When exactly are you planning to let go of this "It's your fault because you're good at something." thing?

When you guys stop whining that it's somebody else's fault you are unhappy.

That is a form of being a coward. Or in the real world a bully, or cyber bully in cyber space.

You won't take responsibility for your emotions and blame others instead. Then attack them as a scape goat for your unhappiness which is the act of a coward. Being good at something does not grant you the right to attack others because you wimp out on taking responsibility for your own unhappiness. Being good at something does not make you morally superior in the world, or with in the kiddy cartoon environment you happen to go piu, piu, piu really good. Just makes you lame when you attempt to leverage it into your only moral prop to hide behind.

Arlo you could have said all this. Getting slow in your old age are you.........
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: BaldEagl on December 28, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Arlo you could have said all this. Getting slow in your old age are you.........

Evidently someone pulled his G(uthrie)-string.
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 28, 2013, 07:55:54 PM
When you guys stop whining that it's somebody else's fault you are unhappy.

That is a form of being a coward. Or in the real world a bully, or cyber bully in cyber space.

You won't take responsibility for your emotions and blame others instead. Then attack them as a scape goat for your unhappiness which is the act of a coward. Being good at something does not grant you the right to attack others because you wimp out on taking responsibility for your own unhappiness. Being good at something does not make you morally superior in the world, or with in the kiddy cartoon environment you happen to go piu, piu, piu really good. Just makes you lame when you attempt to leverage it into your only moral prop to hide behind.

Arlo you could have said all this. Getting slow in your old age are you.........

you have serious issues bud. :aok
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Tinkles on December 28, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
So.....

 
*Braces as he goes back on topic*

What are y'alls opinions on the 12 hour rule?


I wouldn't mind seeing it go down to 3-6 hours for US Prime-Time (perhaps lower for Euro Prime-Time).  I agree, that you should be able to switch to the lowest side.  To counter this 'lower side switch timer' perhaps add a penalty like what was suggested before.  No control of CVs for x amount of time, no ords for x amount of time (or whatever).   But I think that we should at least be able to switch to the lowest populated side out of the 3 at any time.   I think that if someone wants to switch to a lower populated side, that they want a fight (more red guys).  If they have a 'hidden agenda', that is their business, and I haven't found any possible 'hidden agendas'.

So, what do you guys think of this?

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 28, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
So.....

 
*Braces as he goes back on topic*

What are y'alls opinions on the 12 hour rule?


I wouldn't mind seeing it go down to 3-6 hours for US Prime-Time (perhaps lower for Euro Prime-Time).  I agree, that you should be able to switch to the lowest side.  To counter this 'lower side switch timer' perhaps add a penalty like what was suggested before.  No control of CVs for x amount of time, no ords for x amount of time (or whatever).   But I think that we should at least be able to switch to the lowest populated side out of the 3 at any time.   I think that if someone wants to switch to a lower populated side, that they want a fight (more red guys).  If they have a 'hidden agenda', that is their business, and I haven't found any possible 'hidden agendas'.

So, what do you guys think of this?



 :aok

even a several hour mute would be fine, IMO..
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 28, 2013, 09:22:51 PM
:aok

even a several hour mute would be fine, IMO..

what is the punishment if the person is already muted?  mute and deaf?



semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 28, 2013, 10:24:36 PM
Nobody pulled your string.

Public forum. Others are allowed to make fun of your 'macho-whining.'  :D
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 28, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
Arlo you could have said all this. Getting slow in your old age are you.........

Pushing whiner buttons with less effort every day.  ;)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: kvuo75 on December 28, 2013, 11:21:31 PM
what is the punishment if the person is already muted?  mute and deaf?



semp

nah..  was just trying to think of ways to appease the paranoid.

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: HawkerMKII on December 29, 2013, 05:10:57 PM
So.....

 
*Braces as he goes back on topic*

What are y'alls opinions on the 12 hour rule?


I wouldn't mind seeing it go down to 3-6 hours for US Prime-Time (perhaps lower for Euro Prime-Time).  I agree, that you should be able to switch to the lowest side.  To counter this 'lower side switch timer' perhaps add a penalty like what was suggested before.  No control of CVs for x amount of time, no ords for x amount of time (or whatever).   But I think that we should at least be able to switch to the lowest populated side out of the 3 at any time.   I think that if someone wants to switch to a lower populated side, that they want a fight (more red guys).  If they have a 'hidden agenda', that is their business, and I haven't found any possible 'hidden agendas'.

So, what do you guys think of this?



AOK with me, 24hrs, 1 week, 1 month would be great also. Then you would hear them really cry :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Arlo on December 29, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
AOK with me, 24hrs, 1 week, 1 month would be great also. Then you would hear them really cry :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

To offer perspective, the 12 hr rule was a result of paranoia and endless whining.  ;)

So, wouldja be good with no time switch limit?

Just to see if any kinda whining will do ya.  :D
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 29, 2013, 09:19:47 PM
To offer perspective, the 12 hr rule was a result of paranoia and endless whining.  ;)

So, wouldja be good with no time switch limit?

Just to see if any kinda whining will do ya.  :D

sorry bud...but you are wrong.....

Hitech himself said....it was 12 hrs before they switched to 2 arenas with 1 hr switch times..........when they switched back to 1 arena......they neglected to change it back to 12 hrs.....eventually they did go back to 12 hrs.....thats why it is 12 hrs now.....


and now with game dynamics, with more people about the "war" and few people who actually enjoy combat....the game is chock full of runners... ACK fighters.....and gangers....(hey it is there 15$)....the ones who enjoy actually Arial Combat are getting the virtual shaft.

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: LCADolby on December 29, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
the ones who actually enjoy Arial Combat are getting the virtual shaft.

 :aok

 :salute
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 29, 2013, 11:44:53 PM
:aok

 :salute

 :neener:

 :salute
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: lunatic1 on December 30, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
what I said in another thread...


sorry but it is fact.....many players will only engage when they have no chance of losing....

when 5 cons hit the deck and run to ack because a lone Ki84 appears.....something is wrong with the player base.

when 15 guys think that it is cool to attack 1 lone con...or would rather sit over a field and vulch...something is wrong with the player base......

when players would rather sit behind an enemy hanger and shoot the tanks as they spawn....something is wrong with the player base.....

when players would rather attack a field with 40-50 guys...NOE so they cant be seen......or call cheat when someone happens to find them....something is wrong with the players base.....


but in reality it is not the "player base" so much it is the way this country is and how people are in general now a days....

now a days you go to a "game" you get a trophy just for showing up....or you get rewards just for taking off...... rolleyes

the game play has been steadily going down hill.... I have been here since tour 52....if some say it hasn't..... then they need to get out of the green hord and see for themselves.(because yes there have always been hoards)
i agree with you ink.and i have done the camping the hanger thing-while waiting on m3 wtroops to capture the base.and i have spawn camped..although i preferr open field fighting..i prefer to drive out to hunt for gv's--or ambushing.last night i did both.i gv and camp like alot of others do..i'm a bomb tard.i'm a ho'er win i fly...but the campee don't have to keep spawning--and the ho'ee can always turn away.--i think i may have gotten off topic...yes your right a lot of people need and advantage--but you look -alot of that is during an attempted base take..but like a certin bish player and a certin rook player-seems they need all the help they can get..
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 30, 2013, 02:07:47 PM
i agree with you ink.and i have done the camping the hanger thing-while waiting on m3 wtroops to capture the base.and i have spawn camped..although i preferr open field fighting..i prefer to drive out to hunt for gv's--or ambushing.last night i did both.i gv and camp like alot of others do..i'm a bomb tard.i'm a ho'er win i fly...but the campee don't have to keep spawning--and the ho'ee can always turn away.--i think i may have gotten off topic...yes your right a lot of people need and advantage--but you look -alot of that is during an attempted base take..but like a certin bish player and a certin rook player-seems they need all the help they can get..

I remember a long time ago I got into a GV and followed some guy.....I was very new at the game....I watched this guy park behind a hanger and kill like 40+ tanks.......

I towered out in disgust.  still feel the same way, except even more strongly about how that type of game play(not just GVs vulching is the same) is truly what is wrong with the player base and one of the main reasons the numbers have fallen....
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: bustr on December 30, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
you have serious issues bud. :aok

I'm not the one whining about how others play this game today behind the moral canard that their personal abilities in the game grant them a superior pulpit over those they define publicly less worthy than themselves.

Since you conceded in a later posting that the game has changed or evolved into far more play styles than just air combat. It's obvious they don't want to be followed around being poached by your fellow cadre at will. Since there are more of them keeping the light bill paid than your cadre. Allowing you and your cadre to hound them with side jumping in very short intervals, will cause them to vote with their pocket books. As is, they simply vote with their choice of locations in the arena and keep submitting $14.95 each month.

This is a game in which Hitech has maintained the ability for players to express "free association". Even down to the level of who they want shooting at them. Seems to work since the light bill keeps getting paid on time.

I thought the DA was so you blood and guts types didn't have to associate with all of the lesser mortals in the game.....

Title: Re: Please....
Post by: ink on December 30, 2013, 08:34:47 PM
what you call "whining" I call speaking my mind....

and as far as I can see people are speaking with their wallets.....


why am I bothering....you are the smartest guy on the forum and know everything. :rolleyes:


give me another 12 page write up on it. :rofl


EDIT

on second thought.....


as I always speak my mind...I know its a fault.....

you have to be the most long winded individual who never says anything worth a pinch of salt..... I have ever had the displeasure to know....

thank fully it is only though this AERIEL COMBAT game that the association exists.....


I Play ACES HIGH  to enjoy COMBAT against other Human beings....

I am here to kill you and every other red guy out there.....I don't want to be stuck on a country that out numbers the other guys 3 to 1.....

I don't enjoy being the 5th guy on a con....I don't call that COMBAT...I don't enjoy shooting at planes as they roll down the runway.....

you obviously have no problem with this...and thats fine enjoy your game the way you want....I expect the same courtesy.
 


Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Latrobe on December 30, 2013, 11:19:59 PM
Honestly reducing the 12 hour rule or letting you switch to the lowest side for free will have no negative affect on anyone in the game. It's nothing but positives! Base takers and War winners can still do their thing with no change, Chess Piece Loyal people will continue to not switch sides, and the people who want to ability to switch sides to even the numbers and have some fun with their friends on other countries will be able to do so.

Reducing the 12 hour rule or changing it to lowest side for free is nothing but a win-win situation!
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 31, 2013, 12:26:13 AM
Honestly reducing the 12 hour rule or letting you switch to the lowest side for free will have no negative affect on anyone in the game. It's nothing but positives! Base takers and War winners can still do their thing with no change, Chess Piece Loyal people will continue to not switch sides, and the people who want to ability to switch sides to even the numbers and have some fun with their friends on other countries will be able to do so.

Reducing the 12 hour rule or changing it to lowest side for free is nothing but a win-win situation!

please at least let latrobe change sides  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl.  he's been going on for 2 hours on 200 :furious :furious :furious.  but it's been fun  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :salute :salute :salute :salute.


semp
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Latrobe on December 31, 2013, 03:11:39 AM
please at least let latrobe change sides  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl.  he's been going on for 2 hours on 200 :furious :furious :furious.  but it's been fun  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :salute :salute :salute :salute.


semp

I can honestly say, it was the most fun 2 hours I've ever spent in the tower just watching country and channel 200, chatting with friends. Probably the only reason I haven't fully left the game is because the community is soo fun!! You should have joined us in the WW1 arena! Crabby losing it after I stole his kill was HILARIOUS!!!  :rofl
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: Megalodon on December 31, 2013, 10:19:35 AM
Honestly reducing the 12 hour rule or letting you switch to the lowest side for free will have no negative affect on anyone in the game. It's nothing but positives! Base takers and War winners can still do their thing with no change, Chess Piece Loyal people will continue to not switch sides, and the people who want to ability to switch sides to even the numbers and have some fun with their friends on other countries will be able to do so.

Reducing the 12 hour rule or changing it to lowest side for free is nothing but a win-win situation!

(http://www.peterloud.co.uk/tunebook/smiley_fiddle.gif)
Title: Re: Please....
Post by: guncrasher on December 31, 2013, 02:03:36 PM
I can honestly say, it was the most fun 2 hours I've ever spent in the tower just watching country and channel 200, chatting with friends. Probably the only reason I haven't fully left the game is because the community is soo fun!! You should have joined us in the WW1 arena! Crabby losing it after I stole his kill was HILARIOUS!!!  :rofl

so you found a way to have fun despite the 12 hour rule.  awesome.   was gonna join you guys but had the flu.   tough to see.



semp