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Title: EVE online
Post by: chaser on January 30, 2014, 07:32:13 PM
Anyone here play it? I started my 2 week free trial yesterday and I've done a few of the career tuorial missions but I'm super lost for the most part. Anyone want to take me in and help me out?
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Fish42 on January 30, 2014, 08:04:51 PM
Anyone here play it? I started my 2 week free trial yesterday and I've done a few of the career tuorial missions but I'm super lost for the most part. Anyone want to take me in and help me out?

I have play a little bit (almost ready to pickup my Battlecrusier).

But this news might interest you:

The Most costly battle ever for EVE. http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/30/5360208/Eve-Onlines-Bloodbath

And a shot from the battle:

(http://jolstatic.fr/www/captures/108/5/89115.jpg)
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Gman on January 30, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Ruah, spelled just like that, on the bbs may be able to point you to somebody in game to help you out.  He ran what is still the 3rd oldest corporation, PIE, in Eve, and is an old hand and still has a lot of contacts and such in the game.  I'm sure if you PM'd him he could at least point you in the best direction for help.

That big battle all started because one guy forgot to pay one tiny bill for some station or something in one sector of space.  I bet his guys are happy with him after losing 50 or more Titans and who knows how many other capital ships.  I wish you could play the video in normal speed of that fight, they are all in 10 percent speed, as that's what they have to throttle the servers to I read in order to keep up with all that data.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: chaser on January 30, 2014, 08:21:15 PM
I have play a little bit (almost ready to pickup my Battlecrusier).

But this news might interest you:

The Most costly battle ever for EVE. http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/30/5360208/Eve-Onlines-Bloodbath

And a shot from the battle:

(http://jolstatic.fr/www/captures/108/5/89115.jpg)

That's the article that got me started on the game! lol As soon as I read it I went and signed up lol What's your name in game there?


Ruah, spelled just like that, on the bbs may be able to point you to somebody in game to help you out.  He ran what is still the 3rd oldest corporation, PIE, in Eve, and is an old hand and still has a lot of contacts and such in the game.  I'm sure if you PM'd him he could at least point you in the best direction for help.

That big battle all started because one guy forgot to pay one tiny bill for some station or something in one sector of space.  I bet his guys are happy with him after losing 50 or more Titans and who knows how many other capital ships.  I wish you could play the video in normal speed of that fight, they are all in 10 percent speed, as that's what they have to throttle the servers to I read in order to keep up with all that data.

Awesome I will give him a shout and see if he can hook me up with something. I don't even begin to understand the whole corporation thing yet. Or anything for that matter lol
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Fish42 on January 30, 2014, 08:28:25 PM
That's the article that got me started on the game! lol As soon as I read it I went and signed up lol What's your name in game there?

Morgan Ellecon is my toons name. I spend my time running around blasting pirates in 0.3-0.7 Sectors for NPC Corps.

Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: GScholz on January 30, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
It's a time-sink like no other game I've played. If you can't afford to invest a lot of time it really isn't worth it in the long run. The "single-player" mission running and mining gets old fast.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: BluBerry on January 30, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
It's a time-sink like no other game I've played. If you can't afford to invest a lot of time it really isn't worth it in the long run. The "single-player" mission running and mining gets old fast.

I agree, I played EVE when it first came out in 2003 and that was exactly how I felt about it, however it has grown and become a much cooler game since then.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: chaser on January 30, 2014, 08:43:03 PM
It's a time-sink like no other game I've played. If you can't afford to invest a lot of time it really isn't worth it in the long run. The "single-player" mission running and mining gets old fast.

Well I don't know how much time I'll get to play it, but I figure anything is worth a try.


BTW I've yet to figure out how much it costs to play.. Is it a monthly fee or what? The fact that I've yet to find it anywhere is frankly kinda scary.. Must be outrageous.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Fish42 on January 30, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
Well I don't know how much time I'll get to play it, but I figure anything is worth a try.


BTW I've yet to figure out how much it costs to play.. Is it a monthly fee or what? The fact that I've yet to find it anywhere is frankly kinda scary.. Must be outrageous.

Its 15 a month sub, but you can pay $20 for a Plex Card. This can be used for 30 days of play or can be sold in game for a very nice chunk of change. If you make enough money in game you can play for free by buying the Plex off the AH.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on January 30, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
I've played the game off and on for a few years. I've had some good fights fighting in null sec. I once participated in a fleet op that destroyed over 30 capital ships in a span of 30 minutes. It was quite intense. I had my Abaddon battleship in the fleet and had to call for logistical support more than a few times. :)

I love the game, but unfortunately I just don't have the time to invest in null sec gameplay (the gameplay I enjoy the most). That being said, I don't play much these days.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: uptown on January 31, 2014, 04:57:45 AM
I've been playing for a year now doing the mining, exploring, manufacturing, rat killing and Planetary Interaction over in Amarr and surrounding areas. I pretty much stay in low and high sec unless I have armed escort into null sec. I'm in Crimson Collective/ 0RIG corp and go by Dusty Rhoads. Home base is Hamse.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: bozon on January 31, 2014, 01:37:45 PM
It's a time-sink like no other game I've played. If you can't afford to invest a lot of time it really isn't worth it in the long run. The "single-player" mission running and mining gets old fast.
I agree. It looks beautiful and it is very deep, but I don't plan to live long enough to play it.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Sol75 on January 31, 2014, 01:55:57 PM
I play as well, but haven't been on much in the past couple of months.  In game my main character is Sol Corrado.. go ahead and add me to your list and when I do get a chance to get on ill send you a message.. that goes for all you other players out there as well...

I concentrate mainly on stealth cloaky type ships :)
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on January 31, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
As I'm reluctantly looking at the market for a possible AH replacement I have a question: How suitable is this game for the proverbial lone wolf player? I have never ever joined a AH squad, and I would avoid any game were had to join any squad/clan/alliance for 'success' and enjoyment.
And how important are reflexes/reaction time? I'm not getting any younger and am already kinda avoiding furballs in here because I find them exhausting me quickly...  :uhoh
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: BluBerry on January 31, 2014, 10:21:32 PM
As I'm reluctantly looking at the market for a possible AH replacement I have a question: How suitable is this game for the proverbial lone wolf player? I have never ever joined a AH squad, and I would avoid any game were had to join any squad/clan/alliance for 'success' and enjoyment.
And how important are reflexes/reaction time? I'm not getting any younger and am already kinda avoiding furballs in here because I find them exhausting me quickly...  :uhoh

Reflex and reaction time in EVE are not nearly as important as in AH2 ( if your comparing the two ) the game is very fun for a lone wolf, but to really get all the game has to give your eventually going to need others unless you want to repeat the same basic task like mining over and over.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Fish42 on January 31, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
As I'm reluctantly looking at the market for a possible AH replacement I have a question: How suitable is this game for the proverbial lone wolf player? I have never ever joined a AH squad, and I would avoid any game were had to join any squad/clan/alliance for 'success' and enjoyment.
And how important are reflexes/reaction time? I'm not getting any younger and am already kinda avoiding furballs in here because I find them exhausting me quickly...  :uhoh


Game play is pretty simple, its all Click to fire, Click to move. You don't fly the ship really, you just direct it where you want to go. Reaction times are not that important for alot of the game. Large battles do require some quick thinking and to know when to get the hell out of there. But you can be a miner in a .4-.6 sector and just let your drones deal with the defense (if you make sure you deploy them when you arrive there).

It is a different type of game for sure. Everything in game is player made (almost). You can set yourself up as a miner, an explorer, a bounty hunter, a trader... really alot of options. As to Corps never been in one except the starting one. I just stayed in the starter corp as they can provide help and answer questions as EVE has some deep mechanics.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on February 01, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
Lusche,

Expanding on BluBerry's and Fish42's comments, you can play lone wolf. I dabbled in a little bit of pirating for a brief time and it was extraordinarily fun while I did it. In my experience, I have had the most fun in the game when I played with people I know. A two or three man pirate roam can yield a ton of profit if you fly well together.

If you like tactics, teamwork, rock paper scissors style of fighting then you may enjoy the game.

On a plus side, there are lots of charts and graphs to look at too!
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: bozon on February 01, 2014, 02:17:18 PM
On a plus side, there are lots of charts and graphs to look at too!
Yes, it is almost "spread-sheets online".

As I'm reluctantly looking at the market for a possible AH replacement
I am checking out Star Trek Online. The ship combat there is not bad - a bit like naval combat with slow maneuvering to bring your front or broadside to bear, some special moves to click, and fiddling with energy management between the weapons, shields, engines and aux systems. Plus I get to do my William Shatner impression when I read the text as my character :) You dont have to do that though, you can also do it like Patrick Stewart...

Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: chaser on February 01, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
So I'm curious. I was playing around with my scanner probes and I found an "unstable wormhole". Is it worth entering it or should I stay away from it?
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on February 01, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
So I'm curious. I was playing around with my scanner probes and I found an "unstable wormhole". Is it worth entering it or should I stay away from it?

All wormholes are technically "unstable". If you enter the wormhole, make sure that you bookmark the wormhole from the other side as it will usually collapse within a day or two. If you happen to be stuck in wormhole space, you can just use your scanners to find another wormhole as an exit. Just beware, you won't always be the only capsuleer venturing in wormhole space. I've ventured there a few times and even lost a ship to other players.

If you want to have the most fun, don't be afraid to take a risk and lose a ship.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: chaser on February 01, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
When you say bookmark it, do you mean add it to my personal location?

and if I do that, and it collapses, your saying I can just go back to where the wormhole was?
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: ReVo on February 01, 2014, 05:53:38 PM
When you say bookmark it, do you mean add it to my personal location?

and if I do that, and it collapses, your saying I can just go back to where the wormhole was?

No, if it collapses while you're inside you'll have to scan down a new exit which will come out somewhere else. But as long as you have probes you can never be stuck in a wormhole.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on February 01, 2014, 05:55:06 PM
No, if it collapses while you're inside you'll have to scan down a new exit which will come out somewhere else. But as long as you have probes you can never be stuck in a wormhole.

And if you don't have probes and no one to save you, self destruct your pod.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on February 09, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
I have reactivated my account in Eve and flying again. Feel free to add me to your contacts: Baralosus is the name in game. :salute
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: ReVo on February 09, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
I have reactivated my account in Eve and flying again. Feel free to add me to your contacts: Baralosus is the name in game. :salute

They have rebalanced pretty much every hull in the game, might want to check before you undock anything. Welcome back.  :salute
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: MK-84 on February 09, 2014, 05:15:46 PM
As I'm reluctantly looking at the market for a possible AH replacement I have a question: How suitable is this game for the proverbial lone wolf player? I have never ever joined a AH squad, and I would avoid any game were had to join any squad/clan/alliance for 'success' and enjoyment.
And how important are reflexes/reaction time? I'm not getting any younger and am already kinda avoiding furballs in here because I find them exhausting me quickly...  :uhoh

I've been playing on and off for a couple years. I really want to get into it, but I cant. It is too confusing, and since I literally fly as a lone wolf I find that I'm very very easy meat for more expierenced players.  I can fly a battleship in EVE, but I can not figure out how to really afford one.  Even if I did have one I'm not certain I would be able to do much with it because I'm at a loss as to where to use it.  I'm eyeing Star Citizen as my space sim fix.  That so far appears to be much closer than EVE for what I envision.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 09, 2014, 09:33:58 PM
Thanks for your opinions guys.
I downloaded it and started trial a few days ago. So far it's been... interesting.

It's definitely HUGE and complex, with very much to learn and to discover. Can certainly can keep someone occupied for years with all the possibilities - which is a plus for me personally. I also see it's a huge time sinker as well - which is a negative for me. While the skill system as such doesn't require much online time (no skill grinding), all the toys and stuff you gotta need absolutely does. Especially when trying to go lone wolf... which the game, after my first impressions (maybe 40 hours so far) isn't really suited for. Everything outside HighSec is more like a 3rd world country civil war zone... without a lot of friends (and prime equipment) you better seem to keep a very low profile.  Equipment (mainly) and numbers trump personal skill way more than in AH.
One advantage for me personally is that I don't have to stay up to 2-5 am to see any decent activity, I can log in at any time of the day and see action, if I want to.

So I'm not sure yet if this is something for me... the 'time sink' aspect and the ultimate difficulty to really go lone wolf and yet still experience the whole universe are a turnoff. Maybe I can talk my wife into spending me an additional paid 'trial' month ;)

On a side note, even after such a short time I'm somewhat amazed how many people are treating that game like a second job: Spending a lot of $$ for secondary characters and PLEX, investing tremendous amounts of time per day in earning money in the most disciplined and efficient way possible and following detailed character skill plans for a year or more devised with tools like EveMon...
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Mar on February 09, 2014, 10:41:28 PM
On a side note, even after such a short time I'm somewhat amazed how many people are treating that game like a second job: Spending a lot of $$ for secondary characters and PLEX, investing tremendous amounts of time per day in earning money in the most disciplined and efficient way possible and following detailed character skill plans for a year or more devised with tools like EveMon...

That is why I stay away from EvE. The people there are crazy.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Sol75 on February 10, 2014, 07:59:07 AM
All wormholes are technically "unstable". If you enter the wormhole, make sure that you bookmark the wormhole from the other side as it will usually collapse within a day or two. If you happen to be stuck in wormhole space, you can just use your scanners to find another wormhole as an exit. Just beware, you won't always be the only capsuleer venturing in wormhole space. I've ventured there a few times and even lost a ship to other players.

If you want to have the most fun, don't be afraid to take a risk and lose a ship.

I actually "own" a wormhole.  Have a class 3 wormhole with a POS (Player Owned Station, basically I own a space station in there complete with heavy defenses) in it.. I love when people try to come in.. love to kill em!
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Viperius on February 11, 2014, 03:13:39 AM
Been playing nonstop since 2005.

Done pretty much everything there is todo and I still love the game like nothing else.

Best times is a group of 6-10 good friends roaming through null sec space and attack anyone you want or dare to. PVP at its most fun. If you are good you get fights like this https://zkillboard.com/related/30000785/201402011800/

Remember EVE is a game where you don't get spoonfed like WoW. You need to set your own goals and enjoyment. EVE can be mindnumbingly boring or crazy exciting fun but its largely up to you and the choices you make on how you want to play the game.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: chaser on February 22, 2014, 03:16:19 PM
So does anyone here know how to use the eve toolkit? I built an Excel sheet for ore so I know what ore is currently going for the most ISK per m3 in Jita.
It also calculates how much each stack of ore I own is worth, how much all owned ore is worth, and how many m3 of ore I own.

The only bad thing is I have to update the unit price of every ore on the chart myself. I want it to be able to pull that data off the internet so the only thing I have to do is type in how much ore I own and let it tell me the rest. I messed around a bit with the info and links here: http://dev.eve-central.com/evec-api/start (http://dev.eve-central.com/evec-api/start) but I never could get anything to work.

I also plugged some of those links into a website made a few years back for something else but it didn't show any data, only links. I'm no internet genius so I don't understand the postdata and all that stuff. But I'd really like to learn how to make it work with my chart or even on a website.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Vudu15 on February 22, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Chaser you know you could just ask us in Corp chat right? :D but if yall want you can look me up as well "Flyin Hornytoad"  :bolt:
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: HL117 on February 22, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
Morgan Ellecon is my toons name. I spend my time running around blasting pirates in 0.3-0.7 Sectors for NPC Corps.



http://evewho.com/pilot/organ+morgan+Ellecon (http://evewho.com/pilot/organ+morgan+Ellecon)
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: ReVo on February 22, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
You should all come to Tama. Bring your most expensive ships.  :noid
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Fish42 on February 23, 2014, 01:10:29 AM
http://evewho.com/pilot/organ+morgan+Ellecon (http://evewho.com/pilot/organ+morgan+Ellecon)

ah no

http://evewho.com/pilot/Morgan+Ellecon

Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2014, 07:17:35 AM
Well, after a month of playing and learning it seems that it's indeed not a game for a "lone wolf" unless you have been around for a very long time.

I was expecting to get smashed a lot by other players in pvp, but it seems unless I limit myself to mining in totally safe regions or mission running (as boring as fighting offline in AH) I can totally forget it. Not just because I lack experience and a lot of player skills, and not even because I don't have the money for better equipment. It's extremely lopsided because my pilot has not the skills yet to use the equipment necessary to survive more that just 4-10 seconds when being jumped by just a single enemy (most of the time it's many more).
All I could do so far was totally avoid combat with other players by not venturing into low sec... which doesn't make the game very exciting or fun for me.

Looking at the skills I figure it takes my like another 1-2 months of real time to be able to get be on par with the majority of "bad guys" which only would start to give me something like a small chance to survive at least every once in a while. I'm afraid I would have to wait even longer than that to be really able to play as a lone wolf...


Too bad, as I really like the complexity of that universe.  :(



(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/digerdi_zpsce1390ae.jpg)
(a dismayed Lusche)
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: ReVo on February 28, 2014, 07:21:27 AM
Well, after a month of playing and learning it seems that it's indeed not a game for a "lone wolf" unless you have been around for a very long time.

I was expecting to get smashed a lot by other players in pvp, but it seems unless I limit myself to mining in totally safe regions or mission running (as boring as fighting offline in AH) I can totally forget it. Not just because I lack experience and a lot of player skills, and not even because I don't have the money for better equipment. It's extremely lopsided because my pilot has not the skills yet to use the equipment necessary to survive more that just 4-10 seconds when being jumped by just a single enemy (most of the time it's many more).
All I could do so far was totally avoid combat with other players by not venturing into low sec... which doesn't make the game very exciting or fun for me.

Looking at the skills I figure it takes my like another 1-2 months of real time to be able to get be on par with the majority of "bad guys" which only would start to give me something like a small chance to survive at least every once in a while. I'm afraid I would have to wait even longer than that to be really able to play as a lone wolf...


Too bad, as I really like the complexity of that universe.  :(



(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/digerdi_zpsce1390ae.jpg)
(a dismayed Lusche)


Go join up with Eve University or Brave Newbies. They'll get you into the action, help you out with your isk problems, and there are people in both camps who can tell you just about anything you'd need to know about the game.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2014, 07:30:22 AM
Go join up with Eve University or Brave Newbies. They'll get you into the action, help you out with your isk problems, and there are people in both camps who can tell you just about anything you'd need to know about the game.

I don't have ISK problems and it's not exactly the lack of information I'm suffering from. My 'problem' is a different one, as explained in my wall of text ;)
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Swoop on February 28, 2014, 07:38:22 AM
Alternatively.....ditch EVE and wait for Elite: Dangerous.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 07:40:54 AM
(http://smmobl.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/learningcurve.jpg)

You have to gang up to do anything fun in EVE. Find a corp.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 07:42:01 AM
Alternatively.....ditch EVE and wait for Elite: Dangerous.

Personally I'm waiting for Star Citizen. Got my bronze citizenship card and everything...
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2014, 07:50:39 AM
You have to gang up to do anything fun in EVE. Find a corp.


And that's why EVE ain't the thing for me  :(
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
Alternatively.....ditch EVE and wait for Elite: Dangerous.

It's very much possible I have only a few months left before I'm not longer being able to fully 'learn' a new game anymore  :noid
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Plazus on February 28, 2014, 07:58:31 AM
Lusche... You should try your hand in pirating... It is a lot of fun. You can fly lone wolf but at least you have a few guys to back you up if you get yourself stuck in a jam.

PS: Level your character up to fly a battlecruiser (Drake, Hurricane, Harbinger are good options) and you can take on most anything in a 1-4 man roam in low sec.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
Lusche... You should try your hand in pirating... It is a lot of fun. You can fly lone wolf but at least you have a few guys to back you up if you get yourself stuck in a jam.

PS: Level your character up to fly a battlecruiser (Drake, Hurricane, Harbinger are good options) and you can take on most anything in a 1-4 man roam in low sec.


Well, pirating is a bit difficult, for I'm naturally being immediately attacked by the gangs of other pirates I encounter in lowsec.
As GScholz said: It's a game where you have to gang up.... or stay in highsec and mine or run level 1 missions ;)

And for the BC... yes, I looked at it, but also at the time I need to bring my pilot's skills to a level that makes flying a BC viable. Another 2 months of just mining while I slowly creep up the skill ladder...

I can only afford one single game, and I'm not looking forward to spend that money on a game where I can't find "my" fun. Which, to be clear, isn't the game's 'fault' at all. I think the game is great  :old:
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Arlo on February 28, 2014, 08:13:53 AM
Personally I'm waiting for Star Citizen. Got my bronze citizenship card and everything...

Bronze? Does that come with a space Yugo?
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 08:32:18 AM
Yeah...  :(





 :lol


I took the Colonel pack with the Hornet.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: ReVo on February 28, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
Lusche... You should try your hand in pirating... It is a lot of fun. You can fly lone wolf but at least you have a few guys to back you up if you get yourself stuck in a jam.

PS: Level your character up to fly a battlecruiser (Drake, Hurricane, Harbinger are good options) and you can take on most anything in a 1-4 man roam in low sec.

Piracy is good fun once you have the SP. A newer character like his will just be a juicy target for guys like me.
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Grayeagle on March 04, 2014, 09:13:31 PM
I played it for awhile .. got into a decent corporation that had a few null system ops goin, was involved in some fleet actions.
Thing is . . IMHO it is mostly based around harvesting other players.
You stay in safe zones and it just burned me out.
You go into null system ops, bring friends, pack a lunch, and dont fly what you cant afford to lose.
*Very* PvP ..and I got tired of it fast.
UO had the same problems .. go mining in null systems, get harvested by some jerk.. same as mining ore in UO.

Fleet ops are ok ...but unlike Aces High, the amount you spend on your ship counts ..
..and the big corps go hunting with fleets built to take advantage of that in spades.

Yer either a baby seal or a clubber.. it gets old fast.

-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: EVE online
Post by: Arlo on March 04, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
Hiyas GE.  :D