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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: ML52 on February 04, 2014, 10:33:06 PM
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I normally fly the M and have been thinking of trying the D25, my question(s). Is there a great handling difference between the two? Does the lack of the vintrical bracing of the late models or the razorback make a difference and if so what is it?
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I normally fly the M and have been thinking of trying the D25, my question(s). Is there a great handling difference between the two? Does the lack of the vintrical bracing of the late models or the razorback make a difference and if so what is it?
Slightly less lateral stability near the stall. A very minor effect. On MIL power the M and D-25 will behave very similarly, but the WEP on the M adds several times the number of horses that the WEP on the D-25 adds.
The Major difference between the two is that the D-25 is a real historically significant Jug while the M is a small number production run to a specific fighter group that already had Jugs with similar level performance since early 1944. So in a way, you can pretend that our M is an over-boosted D-25 of the 56th FG.
In the game go ahead and fly the D-25. The M is for players who need the crutch - once you are done with that you move to the D-25 and after that you graduate to the D11.
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The M is for players who need the crutch.
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ML, the M is addictive for sure. I was wondering why you choose the D25 over the D40? Nothing wrong with the D25 choice at all. On my P47 tours I use the M for fighter work and the D40 for attack work.
The N to me it is the P47 that flies so differently from all the rest excluding HP.
You got me on the vintrical bracing. Bozon knows his P47s so you got a good answer there.
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The horsepower between the two is the biggest difference. The D models are less forgiving of mistakes than the later models. IMO the D-11 is a better fighter than the D25 or the D40, if you can deal with the cockpit bars.
Wiley.
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I make very little accommodations between flying the two different AC. As stated, the WEP of the M adds a dynamic to the handling. When I am at the top of a loop or at the top of my zoom I always chop the throttle momentarily to expedite my reversal or turn so I don't fight the torque. With the M, it is much more pronounced, especially when banking to port.
The M will give you a better chance of escape too.
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I think the biggest difference between the Jugs, as already stated, is the WEP. Other than that I fly all my Jugs exactly the same. Not having that excellent WEP that the M has may be a little difficult to deal with at first but you'll get used to it. It's still only 5 minutes of WEP like the M so use it sparingly. I like to save my WEP for nose up maneuvers and climbs since that is the single weakest point of a P-47.
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The "N" though is the oddity of the P47s. It holds such a true line albeit a bit difficult to change lines late in a hanger run. With 25% fuel and WEP left the extra weight of the N seems to carry it through ACM especially low and somewhat slow.
Those that I have ran into that pilot the N that are good are damn good.
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Those that I have ran into that pilot the N that are good are damn good.
BJ229r comes to mind.
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Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.
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Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.
Once you get past the views - especially the restricted rear view, you will have a ball in the D11. It is one surprising AC in AH. Best of luck to you. If you ever want to tag along with any of our group for some P-47 sorties, just holler.
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I don't fly the D-40 much, but not because any problems with the AC itself. It was a 9AF and Pacific ship - the 56th never had one in the inventory. Nor do I fly the N for the same reason. I use the D-25 for JABO work. Having said that, I'll fly an F4U or F6F from time to time and occasionally other non Republic built AC.
I'm funny that way :)
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Thanks for the information gentlemen! Randy I have been doing the same M for fighting, D40 for jabo. I just haven't flown it so I thought giving it a try would be fun with the D11 next.
That sounds like you have a good idea from all the post. Next tour I will follow your path on the D11 and give it a go. Time in the D11 would probably increase ones SA. Maybe a tour of D11s and F6Fs.
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Went to the D11 last night for a few sorties and did well against strat raiding buffs, next step to fight it low. I expect to die. lol
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IMO the D11 stallfights the best of the D's. Good luck and have fun!
Wiley.
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Slightly less lateral stability near the stall. A very minor effect. On MIL power the M and D-25 will behave very similarly, but the WEP on the M adds several times the number of horses that the WEP on the D-25 adds.
The Major difference between the two is that the D-25 is a real historically significant Jug while the M is a small number production run to a specific fighter group that already had Jugs with similar level performance since early 1944. So in a way, you can pretend that our M is an over-boosted D-25 of the 56th FG.
In the game go ahead and fly the D-25. The M is for players who need the crutch - once you are done with that you move to the D-25 and after that you graduate to the D11.
I fly the M for one reason, and one reason only. It makes Pee-51 drivers dive to the deck when I am co-alt or above. I scream like a school girl when they run (elbows in) all the way home... :rock :lol
I find the D-11 to be a good bird, just a little bit unstable where as the others are more solid... YMMV
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Dont get me wrong. I fly the M occasionally too. Someone needs to be the one running down the P-51s and Doras :)
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Dont get me wrong. I fly the M occasionally too. Someone needs to be the one running down the P-51s and Doras :)
BINGO!!!
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Dont get me wrong. I fly the M occasionally too. Someone needs to be the one running down the P-51s and Doras :)
:aok One fine ride.