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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: FL3 on February 14, 2014, 09:39:57 AM
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Ok HTC I'm getting very frustrated with ack. I watch players run through ack 5 to 10 times never being hit. I make 1 gd pass and boom, im on fire and down. NOW WTF AM I DOING WRONG???????????????? I don't pay to play this game to waste it being killed by ramdon fire. I have asked to have my settings turned down because I just can't be that unlucky that many times. SOOOOOOOOOOOO WHATS THE DEAL?????????????????????????????????????.
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If you want to survive going through a field, always be descending slightly. As soon as you stop descending and go level, or worse pull up, ack starts to hit you. It's not a guarantee, but I've made it through fields multiple times following that simple rule.
Wiley.
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I almost always get hit going up hill.
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Ok HTC I'm getting very frustrated with ack. I watch players run through ack 5 to 10 times never being hit. I make 1 gd pass and boom, im on fire and down. NOW WTF AM I DOING WRONG???????????????? I don't pay to play this game to waste it being killed by ramdon fire. I have asked to have my settings turned down because I just can't be that unlucky that many times. SOOOOOOOOOOOO WHATS THE DEAL?????????????????????????????????????.
If I go into a field and the guns are still up, I just make sure I have a lot of speed and I change direction every few seconds, even if it is very rapid jerky movements.
To me it seems like if my heading is changing constantly the guns don't touch me nearly as much, if at all.
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If I go into a field and the guns are still up, I just make sure I have a lot of speed and I change direction every few seconds, even if it is very rapid jerky movements.
To me it seems like if my heading is changing constantly the guns don't touch me nearly as much, if at all.
Same here....and i think i read somewhere that the ack doesnt like neg. Gs But then again im getting old, and whats left of my brain is mush.
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Thanks for the response's, but really doesn't seem to matter how I approach or egress, ack just to lethal. Try bob and weave, stick jerk everything, boom I'm dead. It's extremely rare for me to even get a second pass. Problem is, it wasn't that way up until this year or end of last year. Oh well guess I'm just unlucky.
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Thanks for the response's, but really doesn't seem to matter how I approach or egress, ack just to lethal. Try bob and weave, stick jerk everything, boom I'm dead. It's extremely rare for me to even get a second pass. Problem is, it wasn't that way up until this year or end of last year. Oh well guess I'm just unlucky.
The field ack is there to kill you…
No one is supposed to be able to figure out a way to fly through field ack untouched every time or else it would cease to have a purpose.
You either need to train yourself to disengage from an enemy who is going toward his ack, or kill the guns.
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Thanks for the response's, but really doesn't seem to matter how I approach or egress, ack just to lethal. Try bob and weave, stick jerk everything, boom I'm dead. It's extremely rare for me to even get a second pass. Problem is, it wasn't that way up until this year or end of last year. Oh well guess I'm just unlucky.
I'm telling you, keep fast, keep your VSI in the negative until you're past the field. At no point get level or go up over the field. If you're forced to level out or go up slightly due to the presence of earth and trees, change direction about once every second or two. Don't just alternate right, then left though. I generally do two slight pulls to one side, then reverse, every pull changing my nose up or down slightly. I generally find if I'm going to get hit it's when I reverse. By adding a vertical element either up or down (preferably down though) I get hit less.
Yesterday or the day before, I took out 3 of the ammos at a medium field in an A8 and I think I may have been pinged once. No more than twice, no lost parts. The tricky part is after a strafing run it generally means wiggling at treetop level on the far side of the field. Get about 400 yards off the field before you think about grabbing again. Don't grab hard either, just 500-1000fpm, wiggling slightly until you're out of range. Then zoom and reset.
Wiley.
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The ack AI seems to be capable of tracking you (presumably up to the maximum rotation rate of the gun) however fast you go if you travel in a straight line or in a constant radius turn. The trick is to constantly alter your heading preferably in both roll and pitch all the time you are in range or at least alter the amount of pitch, i.e go up and down. You don't need these changes of direction to be so violent you blow all your energy, just be unpredictable. Only straighten out briefly to aim and drop ordnance and then start gently rolling and turning until out of range.
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Jinking works.
ack-ack
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AI Ack tracks one player at a time. Don't be that guy.
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speed, keeping really low on egress and teammates flying cross paths are all good tactics.
However some days it does seem like your going to get instant PW from your first pass. The randomness is frustrating but if one guy could de-ack every base what would be the point of it.
Next subject auto Puffy ack :D
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I have noted the number of passes with little damage has something to do with the plane. A P38 is one to two passes. A P47 is two to three passes.
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I have noted the number of passes with little damage has something to do with the plane. A P38 is one to two passes. A P47 is two to three passes.
It has nothing to do with the plane type.
ack-ack
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It has nothing to do with the plane type.
ack-ack
We will have to disagree on that.
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Ok HTC I'm getting very frustrated with ack. I watch players run through ack 5 to 10 times never being hit. I make 1 gd pass and boom, im on fire and down. NOW WTF AM I DOING WRONG???????????????? I don't pay to play this game to waste it being killed by ramdon fire. I have asked to have my settings turned down because I just can't be that unlucky that many times. SOOOOOOOOOOOO WHATS THE DEAL?????????????????????????????????????.
I've seen players get nailed by ack diving in. I've seen them get totally missed. I've gone through missing everything (one time both ailerons), and other times have gone through unscathed. Sometimes just the pilot gets hit.
The system ack is programmed to shoot at the most threatening enemy in the area, which I believe, is the closest enemy, which was you in this case.
The system used a program to lock on to you, it is commonly referred to as an Aimbot, because it's a string of code telling the computer where to aim, each gun has varying degrees of accuracy so as now to be the "Death Star Superman Laser... with Shark Attachments".
Puffy ack is the same way at CVs, except their requirements is "who hits 3k 1st"? And that's why all the puffy will go to the 1st guy to 3k, because he met the 'requirements' for those coded 'aimbots' to work.
Personally, if I die from auto ack I just think to myself.. well you flew pretty predictably to be hit by auto-ack. Sure, it's annoying because a player isn't getting the kill, so it seems like you a fighting the game you are 'paying for'.
I said this in another thread and I will say it here.
"In my opinion, it's on how the player interacts with what they are engaging that determines their 'fate'. If you don't want to die, then stop flying foolishly, and if you want to drive safely, then learn how to aim!"
:cheers:
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We will have to disagree on that.
No need to disagree.....it doesnt have anything to do with what your flying. Ive flown a P38 once or twice, and can usually deack a small field in it without any issues.
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Not to hard to deack a small field or vbase or port in a A6M5
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I have noted the number of passes with little damage has something to do with the plane. A P38 is one to two passes. A P47 is two to three passes.
(http://i.imgur.com/bDP3Z4U.jpg?1)
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I have noted the number of passes with little damage has something to do with the plane. A P38 is one to two passes. A P47 is two to three passes.
The P-38 is a larger plane than the P-47 and therefore more likely to get hit by ack. IIRC statistically the USAAF also found the P-38 was the more likely to get shot down doing ground attack work and probably for the same reason.
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(http://i.imgur.com/bDP3Z4U.jpg?1)
:rofl
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Well, not sure if it's my repetitive badluck or combination of me and the P38J I fly, but I cannot survive a pass in ack without missing something. Only "trick" I found if I really have to do it is to start with the exterior guns and work my way in. I dive in the 300mph range, chop throttle if I don't want to be part of the landscape :) "compressing" and after i shot the gun or guns I was lined up for i fly at the lowest altitude I can slightly weaving left and right. When far enough, pull straight up out of range wash and repeat. For some reason, I can survive a port, town, v-base a lot more with a mossy than I do with a P38. Ack magnet it is.
Black70
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The P-38 is a larger plane than the P-47 and therefore more likely to get hit by ack. IIRC statistically the USAAF also found the P-38 was the more likely to get shot down doing ground attack work and probably for the same reason.
That and the fact that the P-47 was just a really tough airplane. That radial engine was known for being able to take a beating and keep on ticking.
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I have the most luck dropping as low as I can. Maybe someone can verify this, but I believe that if you hug the deck not all the guns can track you as some will be obstructed by buildings. I drop low, stay low, and jink on the way out.
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I have the most luck dropping as low as I can. Maybe someone can verify this, but I believe that if you hug the deck not all the guns can track you as some will be obstructed by buildings. I drop low, stay low, and jink on the way out.
Buildings yes, but trees and bushes, no; they shoot straight through, even hills as you'll notice in gv entering town. :noid