Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: BnZs on February 18, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
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Enough for maybe one 262 run, every tour. Something of a bone thrown to the masses. It won't make much difference for the top players/serious perk formers, but the ability of the average player to earn fighter perks is apparently low enough that this might be something of a nice gesture towards them.
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It could be every map reset as far as I'm concerned. New players getting to up a couple perk rides isn't a big threat and might add some fun factor.
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No, perks should be earned and not given away freely. For a new player, it's the incentive to get better and it actually feels like a reward if you finally earn enough perks to get a perk plane/vehicle. It will not be the deciding factor whether or not a new player continues their subscription or not, nor will it attract new players.
ack-ack
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Then there would be times like this weekend when a person was trying to dive bomb a base with a B29 in the middle of a base attack. Looked like an A20.
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Perks used to be awarded to the winning side, everyone on the winning side got perks, I don't think that's changed.
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No free perks. You earn perks by using "lowish" ENY planes.
And no, it does not favor vetrans over noobs as much as you think. The kind of kills that noobs get they will get even if the flt the Spit9 instead of Spit16, or the La5 instead of the La7, the 109G2/F4 instead of the K4 and the PonyB instead of the D. Not to mention some delux perk farmers like the 205, P47D11/25, Mossie VI, and KI61, all of which are a LOT more capable fighters than given credit for.
I do not want to see more 262s flying around, nor squadrons of Tempests and F4U4, nor streams of B29s or Arados.
Instead, we need more ways to burn the perks we already have and keep getting. Give me the ability to create missions and pay the perks for the people who join. I'd be happy to pay for 262s or whatever for any noobs that wants it. Then perk some ords.
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The new America , where every one is a winner. Perks for free because you are entitled to them. :banana:
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I earn more perks than I will ever use. I just thought getting to crash a 262 in the MA once a month or so might help with noob retention. :salute
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I earn more perks than I will ever use. I just thought getting to crash a 262 in the MA once a month or so might help with noob retention. :salute
When I first started it took me over 6 months before I got enough perks to fly a 262.
I think it's a decent wish, I think it should apply to accounts under 6 months old (so 6 'allowances').
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If we had them... what are you going to do with your free fighter perks....
I know I'll be deacking fields with 262s! :D
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I earn more perks than I will ever use. I just thought getting to crash a 262 in the MA once a month or so might help with noob retention. :salute
And BnZs makes a plucky attempt to defend himself from the inevitable and inappropriate extrapolation with which he's just been tarred...
Ask a noob. I'm not exactly one any more but my interest in my perks is pretty low, other than as trophy points.after all, what do I need them for? Mostly, I want to fly my g14 or the f4 or g6. When I'm feeling crazy, I'll grab a 410 or a '38, '39, or '40. Wooden ships, Iron men... Perk drivers? Meh.
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No free perks. You earn perks by using "lowish" ENY planes.
And no, it does not favor vetrans over noobs as much as you think. The kind of kills that noobs get they will get even if the flt the Spit9 instead of Spit16, or the La5 instead of the La7, the 109G2/F4 instead of the K4 and the PonyB instead of the D. Not to mention some delux perk farmers like the 205, P47D11/25, Mossie VI, and KI61, all of which are a LOT more capable fighters than given credit for.
I do not want to see more 262s flying around, nor squadrons of Tempests and F4U4, nor streams of B29s or Arados.
Instead, we need more ways to burn the perks we already have and keep getting. Give me the ability to create missions and pay the perks for the people who join. I'd be happy to pay for 262s or whatever for any noobs that wants it. Then perk some ords.
Or model more perk ac... Like the do335 or the Meteor, or maybe even the a26. Perhaps the Henschel guided bombs would be good perk ordnance for the ju88.
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I think the game could handle you doing that once a month.
If we had them... what are you going to do with your free fighter perks....
I know I'll be deacking fields with 262s! :D
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When I first started it took me over 6 months before I got enough perks to fly a 262.
I've earned over 500 fighter perks in the one and a half tours since I returned to the game, and if they had *all* been Fm2 sorties instead of a bunch in the P-51D, it would probably be over 1000 :D But there isn't much I like to spend them on. A C-Hog run occasionally.
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If anything, maybe for the two week trials the perk planes can be flown without perk point cost for the perspective subscriber.
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If anything, maybe for the two week trials the perk planes can be flown without perk point cost for the perspective subscriber.
Only if they have a limit on how many they can fly a day. I can see manawar making a new account and trolling people in 262s.
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Only if they have a limit on how many they can fly a day. I can see manawar making a new account and trolling people in 262s.
Yes, this would be the problem. I envisioned something rather modest, the price of one 262 run. That is what everyone is going to be curious about anyway
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Only if they have a limit on how many they can fly a day. I can see manawar making a new account and trolling people in 262s.
Manawar... what a fabulous mem that brings back. He used to ack with big guns amd then do the :banana: here. I'm happy to say that he never killed me but I killed him once. Mostly I'd avoid him.
<inappropriate extrapolation follows>
Clearly, BnZs wants to enable low-skill players like ManaWar to dominate the game by allowing them the regular use of f-15s and radar guided missiles via an unearned perk system.
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Manawar... what a fabulous mem that brings back. He used to ack with big guns amd then do the :banana: here. I'm happy to say that he never killed me but I killed him once. Mostly I'd avoid him.
<inappropriate extrapolation follows>
Clearly, BnZs wants to enable low-skill players like ManaWar to dominate the game by allowing them the regular use of f-15s and radar guided missiles via an unearned perk system.
I only see someone who is trying to make it so new players can test out the higher-quality or more unique planes, even if they don't have the 'skillz' to fly them.
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I only see someone who is trying to make it so new players can test out the higher-quality or more unique planes, even if they don't have the 'skillz' to fly them.
I didn't call it an inappropritate extrapolation for nothing.
OTOH, I don't like the idea of free perkies. I also don't think our clientele, or at least the clientele that will stay, needs a lot of whiz-bang. THey buy realism. If they want whiz bang, they can go to War Thunder <cue Scot accent> which ARE KER-RAP, BY THE WAY.
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I didn't call it an inappropritate extrapolation for nothing.
OTOH, I don't like the idea of free perkies. I also don't think our clientele, or at least the clientele that will stay, needs a lot of whiz-bang. THey buy realism. If they want whiz bang, they can go to War Thunder <cue Scot accent> which ARE KER-RAP, BY THE WAY.
We need all the clientele we can get compromising the game to an unacceptable degree.
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We need all the clientele we can get compromising the game to an unacceptable degree.
This is actually a well-turned phrase that perfectly illustrates the dilemma at hand; how to broaden the appeal without racing to a lowest common denomination.
It's worth considering. At the same time, I think the whole perk system might be too fine a point to actually make much of a dent, awareness or appeal-wise. I wonder how many mmog players actually are aware of AH.
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Eh,honestly mostly what we need are Sierra Hotel graphics on max settings. That'll draw them more than anything else.
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We need all the clientele we can get compromising the game to an unacceptable degree.
if you want to appeal to the total noons, award 500 or something perks upon converting the account from trial to paying.
then advertise it to the trial players as if it is a big deal.
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just increase the reward perks from 20 to lets say something like 250 per class when you win the map.
it will also boost the old players to play for map win instead of spending all their time in ttank town.
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if you want to appeal to the total noons, award 500 or something perks upon converting the account from trial to paying.
then advertise it to the trial players as if it is a big deal.
Which makes me wonder: how big is the bank of "trialers" ..? Those people, imj, are self-selected as aware and interested. If there's a sufficient number of them, your idea makes great sense.
The other upside: fresh meat to be ground. I'm not so far along that killing noobs has any less appeal for me than a good 1:1. Indeed, I've actually seen very good players (one from this w/e comes to mind, in fact - a top 100 guy) fly along in a nice straight line, unaware that a lone g14 was approaching on their low 6.
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if you want to appeal to the total noons, award 500 or something perks upon converting the account from trial to paying.
then advertise it to the trial players as if it is a big deal.
As long as it can't be gamed by signing up repeatedly.
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just increase the reward perks from 20 to lets say something like 250 per class when you win the map.
it will also boost the old players to play for map win instead of spending all their time in ttank town.
Hah! Tank town isn't flying but it is combat, which is a more rationale thing to spend one's play time doing than 99% of the stupid "mishunz" and landgrabbing ops with no opposition.
There is no amount of perks that would get me to play for the map. If chess-piece patriots and armchair generals want me to say "Yes sir!" and hop to, then ya gotta pay me. Cold hard cash. I'm sure some sort of Paypal could be set up. Say $10 an hour as starting wages. Then I *might* actually be willing to divebomb, pork, toolshed, run supplies/troops and other mind-numbing activities. For a couple hours each week anyway, just to cover beer costs.
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just increase the reward perks from 20 to lets say something like 250 per class when you win the map.
it will also boost the old players to play for map win instead of spending all their time in ttank town.
As an old player I say BS.
I have thousands of perks that I don't use now. Why would easy perks lead me toward a win the war style game play?
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As an old player I say BS.
I have thousands of perks that I don't use now. Why would easy perks lead me toward a win the war style game play?
I'm with the Fuge... Win the War is "speshul edukashun", and I say that with a caveat: I don't mean to offend those in special education. I mean, it's fun to learn it and try it once or twice but, BnZs couched it pretty well: it's kind of mind-numbing in that it's not so much a skill-building or learning exprience as it is game-y. Ultimately, who cares that much about the map so long as there's good combat to be had?
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what does MONTLY mean? is it bad or good?
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what does MONTLY mean? is it bad or good?
It means the OP has stubby little clumsy fingers and types looking at the keyboard.
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There is no amount of perks that would get me to play for the map. If chess-piece patriots and armchair generals want me to say "Yes sir!" and hop to, then ya gotta pay me. Cold hard cash. I'm sure some sort of Paypal could be set up. Say $10 an hour as starting wages. Then I *might* actually be willing to divebomb, pork, toolshed, run supplies/troops and other mind-numbing activities. For a couple hours each week anyway, just to cover beer costs.
:aok :aok :aok
:cheers:
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It means the OP has stubby little clumsy fingers and types looking at the keyboard.
Or he was typing it with his damn thumbs on a phone :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzO-_Yl4d0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzO-_Yl4d0)
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So, "that time of the month" might take on a new and more pleasant meaning?
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So, "that time of the month" might take on a new and more pleasant meaning?
I don't know... I suspect you might hear more ragging than usual - about all the noobs pick-augering from their Temps and 262's. Speed might not help anyone's gunnery or flying, but it sure can put 'em in your face quickly. The first of each month would be sort of like jailbreak day.
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I don't know... I suspect you might hear more ragging than usual - about all the noobs pick-augering from their Temps and 262's. Speed might not help anyone's gunnery or flying, but it sure can put 'em in your face quickly. The first of each month would be sort of like jailbreak day.
For once, I would love to encounter a noob in a Tempest. haven't killed one in almost 2 years now and want that "kill every plane" achievement.
Can't say that I'm in favor of a monthly handout. An alternative would be a one-time handout to new customers after 30 days of playing. HTC could deter shades capitalizing by keeping track of ISPs, which they probably do anyway. A recurring handout is not a good idea, IMO. Just like the skill to fight has to be gained through fighting, so too should the perks.
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