Aces High Bulletin Board
Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Latrobe on February 28, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
-
Video of my reviewing one of Glzzsqd's fights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mfch_MLgJE&feature=youtu.be
-
:aok
I have a lot of time for gizz squad he is such a decent chap and does his best.
-
Glzzsqd and I have been lucky enough to have some fabulous 1v1 fights in the MA recently. Tough adversary and a great fight <S>
Thanks for taking the time to do these Latrobe. I enjoy watching them.
-
:aok
I have a lot of time for gizz squad he is such a decent chap and does his best.
Everytime I shoot him down he PMs me telling me I am lucky then furnishes me with an excuse why he lost :rolleyes:
The last time he told me that it was actually 'lil glzz' flying the plane, not the real one, I suppose implying that I was lucky that time because it was not the real glzz flying :rofl
Nice vids and concept Latrobe :rock
-
Great film analysis Latrobe.
I thought any Jug could out dive any opponent plane, and the 152 was highly susceptible to wing snap at high vertical maneuvers. Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
-
Great film analysis Latrobe.
I thought any Jug could out dive any opponent plane, and the 152 was highly susceptible to wing snap at high vertical maneuvers. Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
Eventually, the jug will pull away from just about everything in a dive. But if the jug is slow when starting the dive, it's poor acceleration makes it vulnerable to 109's, 190s, spits, Laggs, yaks, B-17s (J/K)...
-
Great film analysis Latrobe.
I thought any Jug could out dive any opponent plane, and the 152 was highly susceptible to wing snap at high vertical maneuvers. Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
Jugs CAN out dive MOST opponents, but the 152 is one of the few exceptions. It depends on the model Jug of course. An M or N would most likely be able to dive with a 152, while the D11 is just barley able to keep up. What makes the Jug so amazingly good at diving and high speeds is all that weight it carries with it. It really helps the Jug just drop like a rock and builds up E quickly. Then it has very big wings and control surfaces to maneuvers quite comfortably at high speeds. The Ta-152 is just like the Jug, only BIGGER in all catagories! It is heavier than the Jug meaning it will build up speed more quickly (again, depending on the model of Jug). Plus it has it's excellent WEP to pull it through a dive even quicker. It also has VERY big wings and good control surfaces to maneuver at high speeds. The 152 is also a bit more streamline than the Jug which reduces drag and helps gaining and holding E easier. Take a look at Glzzsqd's airspeed indicator at the start of the video, or even better, grab a 152 and try this out yourself. His airspeed was at around 260mph, but as soon as he nosed down he very quickly got over 300mph and close to 350mph in almost no time at all and that wasn't even a very steep dive. Imagine how much speed he would have built up in a steeper dive and if he kicked in WEP as well! That's one of the biggest advantages of the 152 is the fact that you can build up E without even trying really.
There's been a number of times when I'm in my 152 where someone came in higher than me which negates my speed advantage and I'm forced to TnB fight them. Once I got them to my altitude then I simply used WEP, a few very small diving maneuvers, and then I just rocketed straight up and they simply couldn't catch me. Then I just killed them with the alt advantage.
I'm not sure what you mean about wing snapping at high vertical maneuvers. Do you mean snapping the wings off when pulling a maneuver at high speeds? All planes have that problem. They just all do it at different G loads and speeds. The 152 I find to be one of the better planes to deal with this. It can quite easily reach close to 600mph without any sign of compression or wing stress. of course ANY plane at that speed will lose its wings if you pull any hard maneuver. The 152 is tough though so as long as you're just gentle on the controls then you should never be snapping any wings off in a 152.
I apologize if I made any mistakes in this explanation. I just got out of bed. :D
-
Very good descriptions, actually... I enjoyed that!
I'd like to get a fight reviewed if I can find a good one and film it...
-
You can send in a film of any fight you want. Doesn't matter how bad it looks. In fact, I'd actually prefer films of people who lost their fight as you can learn a lot more from those fights than ones you win.
All of us sucked when we first started. All those expert pilots you meet, I bet every single one of them died quickly in their fights when they first started... yes pilots like Bruv, Grizz, batfink, Joach1m, and Nath. No one can step into aerial combat and instantly be an expert at it. Some people in this game might have an edge on others if they fly for a living but even then, I bet when they first started flying IRL they were new and sucked at it. Stick to it! Learn from your mistakes, and anyone can get really good at anything, including aerial combat. :aok
-
Eventually, the jug will pull away from just about everything in a dive. But if the jug is slow when starting the dive, it's poor acceleration makes it vulnerable to 109's, 190s, spits, Laggs, yaks, B-17s (J/K)...
the 152 has poor acceleration as well… Jug is a much better diver in all regards.
great video trobe, enjoy watching these, I might even submit one to you :cheers:
-
You can send in a film of any fight you want. Doesn't matter how bad it looks. In fact, I'd actually prefer films of people who lost their fight as you can learn a lot more from those fights than ones you win.
I think I can scrounge up a couple of stinkers for ya... :D
-
Thanks again for doing this, These reviews and breakdowns really have helped me a lot since I've started playing. Ammo is a great stick in those P47s and has blown me away in single turn more than once, they are always fun fights when they last. I do believe the 152 is what bailed me out of that fight and not my own ability.
I do share my account with my little brother, and he does tend to send quite a few PMs. We can both get a little frustrated and use the .P command as an "outlet", but I do apologize to those who have been on the receiving end of our :cry .
Can't wait to see more <S>
-
It was a very traumatic experience for me I canceled my account after it and have not opened the blinds or left the house since it happened :old:
-
I was eager to see how this turned out and it looks great. Showing the lift-vector views during the rolling scissors was really well done.
Nice work once again, Latrobe!
<S>
Ryno
-
Outstanding! :old:
-
Email sent, sir. <S>
-
Good one Latrobe. I find myself watching these more than once.
-
You can send in a film of any fight you want. Doesn't matter how bad it looks. In fact, I'd actually prefer films of people who lost their fight as you can learn a lot more from those fights than ones you win.
All of us sucked when we first started. All those expert pilots you meet, I bet every single one of them died quickly in their fights when they first started... yes pilots like Bruv, Grizz, batfink, Joach1m, and Nath. No one can step into aerial combat and instantly be an expert at it. Some people in this game might have an edge on others if they fly for a living but even then, I bet when they first started flying IRL they were new and sucked at it. Stick to it! Learn from your mistakes, and anyone can get really good at anything, including aerial combat. :aok
Umm.. so how does this work.. I send ya the whole thang, or just the "me being stewped" parts.. ?? :P
Great Vids BTW..
W-W
-
currently there's a bug in the film viewer where you lose all engine sounds if you cut the film to a specific section. So, the whole film will be needed. :aok
-
currently there's a bug in the film viewer where you lose all engine sounds if you cut the film to a specific section. So, the whole film will be needed. :aok
ok but only if you don't laugh... :joystick:
-
I promise I won't :D
We all had to go through those early stages of sucking. People like me, Joach1m, Lazer, NathBDP, Bruv... we ALL sucked at one point. I sometimes remember back to when I first started flying AH2 and a great guy named Calisto started teaching me the basics in the TA (wonder what he's doing now). I sucked so bad and made every single mistake in the book. :lol But persistence and practice pays off! Dogfighting isn't something you will learn in a matter of days. Everyone learns at different speeds. As an example, RedBull came into this game and became super good in a matter of months. I however have been playing for about 8 years now and I'm still learning something new every day. :o ;)