Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 02, 2014, 07:26:12 AM
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I know, i know, it's an "old" subject, but come on : we are in 2014, 90% of players -at least- now have a machine capable
of handling some nice clouds in Aces High II !(i'm not talking about GB in december, but a june light cloudy day!).
Clouds MUST come back : they are part of a dogfight, part of aerial action : its pure necessity to have em back !
Plz ! :aok
As we can see in this video, posted in another thread, they change the whole picture, add damn realism, are fun and...are really a must have ! :pray
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI
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I like my 60 frame rate instead of 30 thank you. :D
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I'd guess clouds could be making a comeback with the next version of AH. The use of Shader 3.0 in that version should allow a lot of the graphics processing to be shifted from the CPU to currently unused features of the graphics card, so boosting framerates.
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I'd guess clouds could be making a comeback with the next version of AH. The use of Shader 3.0 in that version should allow a lot of the graphics processing to be shifted from the CPU to currently unused features of the graphics card, so boosting framerates.
And the crowd says yay. :D
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I'm excited to (hopefully) see the clouds returning with the new terrain engine. :aok
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While clouds look cool, I can't help but think.... Great ANOTHER way for people to avoid fighting!
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While clouds look cool, I can't help but think.... Great ANOTHER way for people to avoid fighting!
I remember flying out of the low hanging clouds on one of the TT maps in my K4 and finding that I had slipped into formation with between six and eight red P-51's. That "Oh F*$#" moment is one of my favorite Aces High memories, especially because right after they all dove out for their ack. I agree that the clouds may be used by some to avoid combat but I think the positives outweigh the negatives on this one.
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Just like the real world.
If you can't see you can't shoot me. :)
But it also means that if you can't see me, you don't know I am about to shoot you. :devil
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Give me clouds so that I have something to keep me from just dropping my bombs in the pickle barrel every time....
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Just like the real world.
If you can't see you can't shoot me. :)
But it also means that if you can't see me, you don't know I am about to shoot you. :devil
why would you be able to see him?
:rolleyes:
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Right, clouds are part of air combat : can be usefull... or lethal. ;)
Just like the real world.
If you can't see you can't shoot me. :)
But it also means that if you can't see me, you don't know I am about to shoot you. :devil
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oh. one way clouds. got it.
:huh
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Even AH1 had clouds that worked good enough. I'd be satisfied if they brought those back. I love the new clouds they tried out and hope they bring them back.
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The loss of the cloud layer was very :huh even that created a better "feel"
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Right, it really adds realism in an air combat.
The loss of the cloud layer was very :huh even that created a better "feel"
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HTC could bring back clouds, but only the high ones :
if we find out that today low-end stuff players can handle it, then HTC could progressively bring more clouds ingame... :old:
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Clouds can be used both ways : defensively OR to attack :)
While clouds look cool, I can't help but think.... Great ANOTHER way for people to avoid fighting!
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Clouds can be used both ways : defensively OR to attack :)
:aok
you know what else can be used? nighttime. the lack of light will make you see better, but the other guy can't see you.
don't think about it too much.
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Night is for both... isnt it ? Anyway its a thread about clouds, not night... :aok
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you know what else can be used? nighttime. the lack of light will make you see better, but the other guy can't see you.
don't think about it too much.
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While clouds look cool, I can't help but think.... Great ANOTHER way for people to avoid fighting!
True...but I prefer to think of it as yet another thing to consider and work on from a personal SA perspective i.e. not getting bounced from a cloud. That's a good thing IMO.
Slightly off topic - I think the pile of crap this idea will attact from the usual "PooPoo-ers" will be entertaining e.g. "It's a GAME, not WAR! Bouncing me while I'm not looking and my SA has failed me is for the weak!!"
:lol
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I agree, though in an "air game", having clouds should be a priority : clouds were -big- part of air combat in wwii ! :)
True...but I prefer to think of it as yet another thing to consider and work on from a personal SA perspective i.e. not getting bounced from a cloud. That's a good thing IMO.
Slightly off topic - I think the pile of crap this idea will attact from the usual "PooPoo-ers" will be entertaining e.g. "It's a GAME, not WAR! Bouncing me while I'm not looking and my SA has failed me is for the weak!!"
:lol
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I agree, though in an "air game", having clouds should be a priority : clouds were -big- part of air combat in wwii ! :)
Oh I agree.
That "other" game (i.e. The-one-which-shalt-not-be-named-and-doth-indeed-sucketh) has clouds and they can be used to influence a combat situation. That's sad given how pale the game as a whole is in comparison to AH. But I can wait...lots of things for HTC to work on but the game is still great as it is! :aok
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having clouds should be a priority : clouds were -big- part of air combat in wwii ! :)
I most certainly disagree. Clouds, as a part of air combat for a fighter pilot, is next to useless, at most times. The clouds that would be incorporated into the game (if it's done) will definitely not be the huge cumulonimbus type that could hide dozens of aircraft, but rather the ones you'd see on a partly cloudy, warm summer day. According to my knowledge, the weather most combat took place in would include, the small, cumulus type. Now listen, those little clouds aren't an effective tool for jumping somebody not are they for trying to shake an enemy off your six, since they're no places you have to hide in a cloud .5K across going up to 400mph. And trying to jump someone would require precise timing since the clouds would be so small, not only that but it won't hide big red icons from 6K out.
And as of WW2 combat nowhere have I heard of veteran accounts of clouds being used effectively and extensively in combat throughout the war or an engagement. Nor is use of clouds ever brought to attention in fighter doctrines, including Boelcke's. Rather would the sun be used for jumping an enemy than a little cloud.
So as far as adding in clouds for eye candy and to change fighter combat by a certain degree,
I vote no to clouds -1
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+1 because flying in a cloudless sky day after day after day is not only totally unrealistic but is also annoying to the eyes.
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+1 because flying in a cloudless sky day after day after day is not only totally unrealistic but is also annoying to the eyes.
How is it "annoying" to the eyes?
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I like my 60 frame rate instead of 30 thank you. :D
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I like my 60 frame rate instead of 30 thank you. :D
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Ignore these post! :old:
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The lack of a light overcast layer is an annoyance to me. A clear blue sky makes it harder to judge angles when shooting up at someone trying to rope me. I used to make a lot more of those shots before the clouds went.
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Right, it really adds realism in an air combat.
:airplane: For all the guys saying "nay" for what ever reason, the first thing that would improve in your game performance would be your situational awareness, because you not only would have to pay attention to your "six" more often, your mind would also be forecasting your move, should you be jumped suddenly.
What I think would be one of the great advantages would be jumping bomber formations! You would have to do so planning instead of just diving in and shot gunning the formations. That, again would improve your skill as a pilot in this great game of ours!
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:airplane: For all the guys saying "nay" for what ever reason, the first thing that would improve in your game performance would be your situational awareness, because you not only would have to pay attention to your "six" more often, your mind would also be forecasting your move, should you be jumped suddenly.
What I think would be one of the great advantages would be jumping bomber formations! You would have to do so planning instead of just diving in and shot gunning the formations. That, again would improve your skill as a pilot in this great game of ours!
Only as long as the icons didn't glow through the clouds like they used to do :old:
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still don't know in which universe one way clouds exist, where the other guy cant see you, but you can see him..
having people not be able to see each other will not promote combat.
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still don't know in which universe one way clouds exist, where the other guy cant see you, but you can see him..
having people not be able to see each other will not promote combat.
:headscratch: I agree that this game was built for air to air combat between aircraft! I have felt since day one in this game, to improve and promote air to air combat is to present situations which attract lots of fighters and or fighter/bombers. I almost always title my posted missions with some actual mission which was flown in WW2. Example, Ba, Ba Black Sheep strike! In almost 100% of those missions, we get jumped by large numbers of fighters and now you have a actual air combat taking place instead of a "furball". When I say actual air combat, you have pilots trying to disrupt the bombing mission and you have other aircraft trying to destroy the attackers. In this situation, you have to do a little more than "spray and pray" to get a kill. Seldom do I see, sitting in the lead bomber, defenders applying enough converge angle to get a kill and stop the attackers.
While I don't fly fighters much because of bad eyes, I would offer this advice: When a attacker enters the bomber stream, forget chasing the guy and fly a heading to set yourself up for his second pass.
As far as attacking bombers, I believe the 11 O'clock to 5 O'clock pass through the bomber stream is the hardest for bombers and fighters to defend. Of course I am not a good fighter pilot because of my eyes, but maybe the attackers and defenders can comment on this method.
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I like clouds a lot. For me, they add a lot to the feel of things.
The special events I run have clouds in them. Light clouds don't seem to affect 95% or more of the players' frame rates, and the vast majority of comments are that people like clouds. Even medium clouds don't seem to cause that much trouble.
Light clouds example:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201303_mediterraneanMaelstrom/pics/frame4/001-1stEngage-SNAG-0013.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201309_BattleOfBritain2013/pics/frame1/001-takeoff-SNAG-0001.jpg)
Medium clouds example:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201309_BattleOfBritain2013/pics/frame2/020-bombsAway-SNAG-0034.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201309_BattleOfBritain2013/pics/frame3/017-sgDown-SNAG-0027.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201309_BattleOfBritain2013/pics/frame4/011-moreAttacks-SNAG-0018.jpg)
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I agree. I love clouds.
And to those whinging that it discourages fights......simple answer: Stay below the clouds then you alt monkey.