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Title: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
http://www.thetvaddict.com/2011/04/01/breaking-netflix-to%C2%A0relaunch-firefly/
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Swoop on April 01, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Oh dear Arlo. 
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
Shhhh  ;)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: lunatic1 on April 01, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
i already have it on either netflix or hulu or both.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 01, 2014, 04:30:50 PM
Not going to hold breath, considering I saw Netflix somewhere in it. :noid  One can only hope they don't ballz it up.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 01, 2014, 04:41:31 PM
Arlo, if this is an April Fools prank I'm never going to speak to you again.   :noid
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 01, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
Arlo, if this is an April Fools prank I'm never going to speak to you again.   :noid

It's true, here is the press release that was sent out to all the major media/news outlets.

Press Release: Netflix to Relaunch FIREFLY in 2015 (http://www.thetvaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/netflix_pr.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: lunatic1 on April 01, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
are you talking new series,new actors  or reruns?????????????
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Wildcatdad on April 01, 2014, 06:50:14 PM
Arlo, if this is an April Fools prank I'm never going to speak to you again.   :noid
Ditto. I love Firefly, and I am happy to see its return!
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Karnak on April 01, 2014, 07:46:03 PM
April 1st.


Believe nothing on the Internet today.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 07:59:49 PM
April 1st.


Believe nothing on the Internet today.

You're no fun, sir.  ;)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: hitech on April 01, 2014, 08:06:58 PM
Dam got me for about 30 sec

Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 01, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
It's true, here is the press release that was sent out to all the major media/news outlets.

Press Release: Netflix to Relaunch FIREFLY in 2015 (http://www.thetvaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/netflix_pr.jpg)

ack-ack

You sir, can suck a fat Richard... Meanie head.  You too Arlo.   :old:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Dam got me for about 30 sec

It was up last night and as I was reading this to Kelly I clicked the link for more. Excitement turned to ....

"Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: pipz on April 01, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
Arlo I don't like you anymore and you are not welcome in the wilderness near Ontario.  :mad:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 01, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Quote
"Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"

"And we shall call it...this..this land".  "I call it your grave!!".



That was truly cruel Arlo.  There have been recent articles interviewing Nathan Fillion about this very subject, as well as two of the producers of the original Firefly series who have eluded to the possibilities of it someday returning in some form other than comic books - which is why SO many around the net today were duped with this one, and even considering it was 01/04, it still had me interested for an instant, interested enough to check around and to see if it wasn't a fools day prank.

Boo to you Arlo.  Boo to you.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
I can't help it. It's mom's birthday. It's how she celebrated it.  ;)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 01, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Truly cruel.  Clearly you're a purplebelly! :old:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 10:02:34 PM
Truly cruel.  Clearly you're a purplebelly! :old:

Bite your tongue. I was a Browncoat before we called ourselves that.  :D
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 01, 2014, 10:12:15 PM
But do you drink in alliance bars on unification day...  :D
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
But do you drink in alliance bars on unification day...  :D

Wearing said brownish coat.  :D
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 01, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
I still kinda hate you for the op...  :devil
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: texasmom on April 02, 2014, 07:41:38 AM
Jerks.


Dang it.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 02, 2014, 08:00:55 AM
Dam got me for about 30 sec



 :rofl
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Mar on April 03, 2014, 12:40:41 AM
Hey man, I like April Fools as much as the next guy but %@*##$^%@$%@^$&^$%*%@%^$#@^%$#$!&^%$&$$@^%*$%%@^$%$@@$%*&@$&@$^%&$@%$&%#*&^%*&$%@#$%^@$^@$%!*^@%$#$^&%@$&^%$#%$@&^%$^%%@$^%&^@%#&^&^$%@^%$#^%$&^$R@#%^%$^&oscar^#@&$#^^^@%$^$%@^%$&^#%@*&@*(@)!(&#(*&^&^%*&%$@$&^$#@$@%!*&#^%*$&%!%^$#%@%$#^%@&(*&^(*^#(**&$&^%@*%$%@$%^$#^%@^%@%^@#%$#&^^$*&%@&$*&%@&^%$@#^^@$&^#$%*&@%*#%&^$^@&@!*$@*$^*@^#*&^%**$%*%#$#%@$#%*&^$#@^#%@^%$%#$%%*&@^%%$%#%@*&^%$#%@^%*# you Arlo.

I'm going into the next room to cry now.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 03, 2014, 06:42:59 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 03, 2014, 08:43:28 AM
Hey man, I like April Fools as much as the next guy but %@*##$^%@$%@^$&^$%*%@%^$#@^%$#$!&^%$&$$@^%*$%%@^$%$@@$%*&@$&@$^%&$@%$&%#*&^%*&$%@#$%^@$^@$%!*^@%$#$^&%@$&^%$#%$@&^%$^%%@$^%&^@%#&^&^$%@^%$#^%$&^$R@#%^%$^&oscar^#@&$#^^^@%$^$%@^%$&^#%@*&@*(@)!(&#(*&^&^%*&%$@$&^$#@$@%!*&#^%*$&%!%^$#%@%$#^%@&(*&^(*^#(**&$&^%@*%$%@$%^$#^%@^%@%^@#%$#&^^$*&%@&$*&%@&^%$@#^^@$&^#$%*&@%*#%&^$^@&@!*$@*$^*@^#*&^%**$%*%#$#%@$#%*&^$#@^#%@^%$%#$%%*&@^%%$%#%@*&^%$#%@^%*# you Arlo.

I'm going into the next room to cry now.


That was pretty much my reaction...  My wife had to get out the beer bong to comfort me...
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Wiley on April 03, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Knew it for what it was immediately.  Still not nice to toy with peoples' emotions like that. ;)

Wiley.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 10:22:31 AM

That was pretty much my reaction...  My wife had to get out the beer bong to comfort me...

Good wife!  :aok
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 10:23:04 AM
Knew it for what it was immediately.  Still not nice to toy with peoples' emotions like that. ;)

Wiley.

Seems we got a decent amount of FF fans here.  :)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Randy1 on April 03, 2014, 11:18:21 AM
This April fool joke broke my heart.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7mIy97_rlo
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 03, 2014, 11:31:47 AM
We could start a Browncoats group...  Maybe meet up in the DA or something once a month?
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Randy1 on April 03, 2014, 11:44:32 AM
I keep hoping it will have a revival someday like the original Star Trek.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: smoe on April 03, 2014, 11:46:49 AM
That was a good series.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Wiley on April 03, 2014, 11:55:26 AM
I keep hoping it will have a revival someday like the original Star Trek.

Firefly: TNG Starring:

Shia Laboeuf as Captain John Reynolds
Justin Bieber as Idris Senna
Channing Tatum as Marion Cobb
A CGI monkeylike creature as The Mechanic
Alan Tudyk as Ghost Wash
Hayden Christensen as Khan Washburne

...Yeah.

If it were an actual reunion with the original cast, it would be better than the above, but I don't think it would work well, too much buildup of expectations.

Wiley.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
KHAAAAAAAAN!
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on April 03, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
That show being canceled hurt so much i cant even laugh at this joke. I bought the entire season on DVD, along with the movie, and dont even watch them cause it reminds what it "could have been".

Why is it every Sci-Fi show has to sweat out the axe after every first season like that? Even Terra Nova got axed tho it did well. Babylon 5 had to sweat every season. Even BSG, the best of all time, had to worry.

But FireFly had legs. The story lines that could have developed would have been terrific.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 03:48:09 PM
(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/DH13908lg.jpg)

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DH13908#.Uz3I8Fd3LdI
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 03, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
Zack Whedon, Joss's brother, as well as Joss and several others are still writing stories about the FireFly universe, and they are considered canon.  Dark Horse comics has produced 8 stories in graphic novel/comic format, and they are fantastic for any fan of the original TV series/Film.  The stories are based on the past of some characters, like Book, as well as the future after the end of the Serenity film.  Again, great stuff, even if you don't particularly like comics or graphic novels, a category I fall into.

I have a good dozen or so interviews saved, all of Joss talking about Firefly.  He's said in every case that he tries to focus on creating new worlds with his writing and work, but has never been able to let Firefly go, and is constantly working and waiting for the right moment to "strike" so to speak.  It will be back one day, so many of the actors want to do it still, as does many other people in the trade. 

The Dark Horse productions of Firefly were their best selling works - the fan base is growing if anything, all these years later.  It was such a perfectly executed story and world, one that had our world and the future woven together in such a way it was hard to look away. 

There are a couple of novels in the works right now as well.

This interview gives some good info that is pretty current in the FF world.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49557
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 04:00:07 PM
Zack Whedon, Joss's brother, as well as Joss and several others are still writing stories about the FireFly universe, and they are considered canon.  Dark Horse comics has produced 8 stories in graphic novel/comic format, and they are fantastic for any fan of the original TV series/Film.  The stories are based on the past of some characters, like Book, as well as the future after the end of the Serenity film.  Again, great stuff, even if you don't particularly like comics or graphic novels, a category I fall into.

I have a good dozen or so interviews saved, all of Joss talking about Firefly.  He's said in every case that he tries to focus on creating new worlds with his writing and work, but has never been able to let Firefly go, and is constantly working and waiting for the right moment to "strike" so to speak.  It will be back one day, so many of the actors want to do it still, as does many other people in the trade. 

The Dark Horse productions of Firefly were their best selling works - the fan base is growing if anything, all these years later.  It was such a perfectly executed story and world, one that had our world and the future woven together in such a way it was hard to look away. 

There are a couple of novels in the works right now as well.

This interview gives some good info that is pretty current in the FF world.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49557

Were you ever a member of the FFOB (Firefly Original Board?) You sure sound like one of us.  :)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 03, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
I was around the US Browncoats group, but mainly on the Canadian Browncoats group.  Nathan Fillion was born and raised near me in Alberta, and because of this, Firefly has an even stronger fan base here than the already strong one it would have had based on its on merit.  

It's interesting hearing him talk about what sealed the deal for him when he was cast for the role of Malcom Reynolds - Joss Whedon had read a book called "The Killer Angels" about the civil war, and wanted to write a space odyssey about a civil war in the future between mankind following that theme.  When he told Fillion this during a casting interview, he was shocked to find out that Nathan Fillion is a direct decedent of a famous civil war general from the South, Gen Jubal Early, who is mentioned numerous times in the very book that launched his idea for Firefly.  It's a small world.

So many details such as this are part of what made the series, film, and current medium so special IMO.  That, and having a cancelled TV show come back in less than a couple of years and start filming a major motion picture, something almost unheard of.  I've yet to run into a person, male or female, who says "Firefly, oh, I hated that".  It's got something for everyone, and even people I know who HATE sci fi, give Firefly and Serenity a pass and love it.

Rich's point about the legs is very accurate - and if/when the show comes back as either a mini series or a regular series, there is SUCH potential for great stories, "legs" is something that the dozen-ish episodes of the abbreviated first season had built into the storyline so well, in addition to all the other great things that were done.  Like I said, some of this has already been done with the Dark Horse stuff, and I would bet some of those stories would be turned into tele-play scripts.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 03, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
I didn't watch Firefly when it was on (it aired in the same time slot as FarScape, and FarScape > Firefly) but did enjoy it when I finally got around to watching it on DVD. Still prefer FarScape, though. @#$%ing SciFi channel...
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 06:33:55 PM
I didn't watch Firefly when it was on (it aired in the same time slot as FarScape, and FarScape > Firefly) but did enjoy it when I finally got around to watching it on DVD. Still prefer FarScape, though. @#$%ing SciFi channel...

Heretic.

( :D)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 03, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
There are a lot of great Sci Fi programs from those years Sax, and that's a common sentiment - Firefly and Farscape in close contention.  For me, as much as I loved Farscape, I think that if Firefly ran 4 years like Farscape did, it would be a little easier to compare them, and IMO Firefly would be more of a fav, at least for me.

Babylon 5, Deep Space 9, both great character driven stories that was a departure from the episode driven stories of previous TV sci fi were great as well IMO.

But Firefly, IMO, and probably Farscape as well, are in a category all their own.  Knowing that an autographed copy of Firefly is up there on the ISS orbiting around puts a smile on my face whenever I think of it.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: BluBerry on April 03, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
Babylon 5

is the chit.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 03, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
is the chit.

 :headscratch:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 06:47:25 PM
:headscratch:

He's a fan of that show.  ;)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: BluBerry on April 03, 2014, 06:48:57 PM
Jesus Volron, Arlo is one dusty fart away from the grave and your like 15 years old, how did he get that before you. Get with it.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: pipz on April 03, 2014, 06:53:55 PM
is the chit.

Word is born.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2014, 06:57:18 PM
Jesus Volron, Arlo is one dusty fart away from the grave and your like 15 years old, how did he get that before you. Get with it.

Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you
If you're young at heart.
For it's hard, you will find, to be narrow of mind
If you're young at heart.

You can go to extremes with impossible schemes.
You can laugh when your dreams fall apart at the seams.
And life gets more exciting with each passing day.
And love is either in your heart, or on it's way.

Don't you know that it's worth every treasure on earth
To be young at heart.
For as rich as you are, it's much better by far
To be young at heart.

And if you should survive to 105,
Look at all you'll derive out of being alive!
And here is the best part, you have a head start
If you are among the very young at heart.

(http://classiccinemaimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jimmy-Durante..jpg)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Zoney on April 03, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
I didn't watch Firefly when it was on (it aired in the same time slot as FarScape, and FarScape > Firefly) but did enjoy it when I finally got around to watching it on DVD. Still prefer FarScape, though. @#$%ing SciFi channel...

Heresy, burn the witch.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 03, 2014, 07:53:12 PM
Heresy, burn the witch.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!!!
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on April 03, 2014, 08:00:52 PM
B-5 season one "Mind War" is maybe the greatest sci-fi single episode ever. I have the movie "In the Beginning" and its great too but the thing about B-5 is it could have 3 or 4 great stories woven into one episode. I remember that great quote at the end of Mind War, or at least found it. I think I'll rent it tonight on Amazon.Anyway after G'Kar sent a heavy raider to save this womans life.....

Quote
Catherine Sakai: Ambassador! While I was out there, I saw something. What was it?

G'Kar: [points to a flower with a bug crawling on it] What is this?

Catherine Sakai: An ant.

G'Kar: Ant.

Catherine Sakai: So much gets shipped up from Earth on commercial transports it's hard to keep them out.

G'Kar: Yeah, I have just picked it up on the tip of my glove. If I put it down again, and it asks another ant, "what was that?",

[laughs]

G'Kar: how would it explain? There are things in the universe billions of years older than either of our races. They're vast, timeless, and if they're aware of us at all, it is as little more than ants, and we have as much chance of communicating with them as an ant has with us. We know, we've tried, and we've learned that we can either stay out from underfoot or be stepped on.

Catherine Sakai: That's it? That's all you know?

G'Kar: Yes, they are a mystery. And I am both terrified and reassured to know that there are still wonders in the universe, that we have not yet explained everything. Whatever they are, Miss Sakai, they walk near Sigma 957, and they must walk there alone.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/957_zps4df0b668.png)
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 03, 2014, 10:45:05 PM
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!!!

(http://www.jonathanbird.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Farscape.jpg)

Bring it!
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 03, 2014, 11:41:43 PM
Jesus Volron, Arlo is one dusty fart away from the grave and your like 15 years old, how did he get that before you. Get with it.

 :rofl

So you didn't find Sheridan's little dive a tad on the humorous side?
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Tilt on April 04, 2014, 10:05:14 AM
B5 and Farscape ended poorly as series IMO.........

Firefly never made the UK Terrestrial channels.......... Serenity I enjoyed.......

but then I go back as far as Blakes 7 which at the time was great stuff but positively  dated dog poo now............
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Wiley on April 04, 2014, 11:59:16 AM
Always liked B5 but never got 'into' it at the time.  Farscape and Firefly were both good in their own right, but I don't consider them really comparable.  Farscape just had a completely different tone, it felt more like space fantasy as opposed to space western like Firefly.  Both good, but different types of shows altogether.

Wiley.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 04, 2014, 12:56:26 PM
B5 and Farscape ended poorly as series IMO.........

The problem with FarScape's ending is that the series had been renewed for a 5th and 6th season before season 4 completed production. However midway through the 4th season (and after production wrapped), SciFi inexplicably cancelled seasons 5 and 6 without warning (in fact they did it during the mid-season hiatus, which SciFi LOVED putting the series on without warning or even indication of when it would return). They cited ratings, however it was performing VERY strongly for a cable TV series at 7pm on a Friday night c. early-2000s (hell, even TODAY its ratings would have been solid) so they weren't fooling anybody. About a week or two after the season 4 finale (which was NOT altered by the showrunners as a protest against SciFi, thus maintaining the original cliffhanger ending) SciFi announced the BSG remake to fill the need for "an edgy and sexy space-based scifi drama." Y'know, EXACTLY THE SAME THING THEY HAD JUST FRELLING CANCELLED. The PK Wars essentially compressed the plans for the 5th and 6th seasons into a TV movie (sorry, but two 1.5-hour episodes does NOT a miniseries make), and I agree it was a poor sendoff for the series, particularly as there were a LOT of plot threads from previous seasons left dangling. The REAL disappointment is that feeling of "What Might Have Been," knowing that they compressed some 44-48 episodes into 3 hours.

What REALLY happened is FarScape most likely fell victim to network politics. The timing of the BSG announcement and the similarities between the two shows (particularly the "edgy and sexy" bit, both used abundantly to describe FarScape in comparison to other SciFi dramas of the period) strongly suggests someone high up at the network demanded room on the schedule be cleared for their personal pet project, and FarScape fell on the chopping block because it would have been too similar and potential competition.

Incidentally, FarScape got a comic continuation much like Firefly. However now THAT has wrapped, too. And coincidentally, it's been about two years since the TPB collection of the first half of the War for the Uncharted Territories arc was released, and NO WORD WHATSOEVER about the TPBs for the remaining issues. Even in comic form FarScape is getting screwed over by the networks/publishers. :P
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: lunatic1 on April 04, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
Anybody ever watch SPACE-ABOVE AND BEYOND????????????????????? :rock
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 04, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/user/il70250/videos
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Wiley on April 04, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
Anybody ever watch SPACE-ABOVE AND BEYOND????????????????????? :rock

One of the best things on TV at the time...  Simply awesome.  I'm afraid to rewatch it as I fear it might not hold up all that well...

Wiley.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: lunatic1 on April 04, 2014, 03:13:20 PM
yep great show-i bought the boxed set---last episode is sad..
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 04, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
I felt the last episode of Space: Above and Beyond felt a little tossed together.  While left a bit open, it could have gone about a bit better. :(
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 04, 2014, 05:51:07 PM
I just did a re watch of Space A@B, it held up fairly well from the last time I had watched it.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on April 06, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
BSG was dark and character driven. Far from what the suits wanted, but they stuck to their guns.

It was amazing Sci-Fi. Correct me if Im wrong but the suits made them cut back on the B-5 series right? It was supposed to have another year?

I know they did with Fire Fly. They wouldnt even allow the pilot to be shown first cause they thought it was dark and depressing when in fact the pilot was probably the best episode of them all. The last one, with the Bounty hunter, rocked too.

Such a promising story axed by the GD suits. :cry
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 07, 2014, 10:25:41 PM
Just read on the Verge that apparently yet ANOTHER reboot of BattleStar Galactica is in the works, this time as a feature film (not a sequel to the series, but a full reboot/remake).

STILL wish they'd do the Original Series continuation that ignores Galactica 80, which Richard Hatch has been trying to get off the ground since.. Galactica 80.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 07, 2014, 11:35:42 PM
Saxman, that BSG movie has been on the burner since before the recent series ended.  It's been bounced around from director to director, JJ Abrams was singed on to direct at one point, there have been TONS of script re writes as well.  We'll see if it ever gets truly green lit, I think they waited too long to cash in on the momentum from the TV series, but who knows, it's a great basic story with a huge bible of information, and a lot of potential stories.  From what I've read it may not be "canon" as compared to the recent TV series, and likely won't have any of the same actors, and may even depart in terms of the regular characters.  We'll see I guess as it the development gets more publicized.  After the disaster that was "Caprica", a lot of studios are gun shy about it though, as that proved the other side of the coin, that even super successful stories with huge success can be turned into crap by poor writing/producing/acting/etc.  

I was hoping that the Blood and Chrome thing would have been picked up, but again, they messed with it so much, and took so long, and released it in such a strange way, they really shot themselves in the foot ratings wise, which unfortunately is what getting picked up is based on for the most part.

Fantasy and Sci Fi are on the upswing though overall, last night Game of Thrones had 8.2 million viewers on opening night, a 20 percent increase from last year, which is insane numbers - hopefully this bodes well for other subject matter, I would LOVE another Star Trek, Firefly, BSG, anything similar, type of series to come this year or next.

B5 is another thing that is always out there, just waiting.  JMS has said he would love to do a motion picture, or even some more TV movies, or more straight to DVD releases of "The Lost Tales".  They did the last one on only a 2.5 million dollar budget in 2007, and it was excellent really, the few battle scenes and all the CGI was leaps and bounds improved.   The whole B5 world has a lot of legs left in it IMO, and I would love to see someone finance it, or Firefly, for a comeback.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 08, 2014, 01:12:22 AM
Fantasy and Sci Fi are on the upswing though overall, last night Game of Thrones had 8.2 million viewers on opening night, a 20 percent increase from last year, which is insane numbers - hopefully this bodes well for other subject matter, I would LOVE another Star Trek, Firefly, BSG, anything similar, type of series to come this year or next.

I've been rewatching TNG on Netflix. DAMN I miss that show. More to the point: I miss its OPTIMISM. So much in SciFi/Fantasy has gotten so cynical and trying so hard to distance itself from the idealism of TOS and TNG, I think it's about time for the pendulum to swing back the other way for a change.

I'd read that Walter Koenig had been pitching a "main timeline" series set in the TNG-era centered around Chekov as head of Star Fleet Intelligence, but that was a couple months to a year ago and I haven't heard anything since.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 08, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
Michael Dorn made a lot of headway recently as well with some ideas for a new TV series based around the time of the end of the Dominion War of DS9.  DS9 was such a well executed character driven series, that turned into a great "war" series with heart.  Michael Moore from BSG cut his teeth with this show, and is apparently helping Michale Dorn (Worf) with his push for this.  I agree, it's been too long since a TNG/DS9/even Voyager type of show was on.

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Swoop on April 08, 2014, 05:49:13 PM
Didn't know about that Gman.  Nice!

DS9 was the best ever, I mean it had scheming Ferrengi that were hillarious, the obligatory Irish/Scottish mechanic (next one's gotta be Welsh, surely), vile characters you love to hate (Ducat, Weyoun.....Kira), all the awesomeness that is Klingon and, even better, lesbian Trills.

You can't beat DS9 and a Klingon drama without Michael Dorn isn't a proper Klingon drama. 
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 08, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
Lesbian Trills...haha.  I forgot about that - at the time it was SUCH a huge deal, the first woman on woman kiss on screen in prime time, and on a Star Trek series no less. 
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 08, 2014, 11:16:05 PM
Lesbian Trills...haha.  I forgot about that - at the time it was SUCH a huge deal, the first woman on woman kiss on screen in prime time, and on a Star Trek series no less. 

They DID have a precedent, after all.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/04/article-2355854-1AA2D42C000005DC-404_634x678.jpg)

Incidentally, Jonathan Frakes argued that a male actor should be used in the episode where Riker falls for an androgyn, but was shot down.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Swoop on April 09, 2014, 04:55:21 AM
Yeah I'd guess that about Jonathan Frakes.

Never liked the character though.  No-one seems to notice but every time he was left in charge something dire happened to the Enterprise.  Got boarded by Ferrengi for example......once he even managed to crash the saucer section into a planet.....I mean, how does this man still have a command?  

He must be a mason...
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 09, 2014, 10:01:23 AM
Wasn't the first inter-racial kiss on TV also done on Star Trek, when Kirk kissed Uhura? :headscratch:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 09, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
Wasn't the first inter-racial kiss on TV also done on Star Trek, when Kirk kissed Uhura? :headscratch:

(http://metaversemodsquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/picard-facepalm2.jpg)

You DID read my post from yesterday, right?
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Volron on April 09, 2014, 02:44:21 PM
I actually had to look closely to realize that IS Uhura. :lol  I didn't recognize her at first. :o  Yeah, been a while. :bhead  This calls for a re-watch of the entire thing! :x
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on April 09, 2014, 07:17:27 PM
So many great firsts.  That's why I hope there is a new series soon, to break into new Frontiers, just like the characters on the show do. 

I'm re watching Firefly thanks to this thread, probably for the dozenth time, and I always get something new from it, every time.  Fantastic series.  I think I'll start on Farscape next week again.  Begin on disability, this is the only advantage, having unlimited time to revisit old things. 
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Saxman on April 09, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Part of the beauty of Star Trek is that many of the issues they confront and address are STILL relevant today (IE, the TNG episode "The Drumhead").
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on April 09, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
Geez ... this thread is the killing of FF all over again.  :old:
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Arlo on May 08, 2014, 07:23:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCf9M5GsDSs
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: rpm on May 08, 2014, 06:15:53 PM
So if I was a noob and wanted to watch Firefly for the first time, would I watch it in production order or in order of airing? Discuss.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on May 08, 2014, 06:25:54 PM
RPM if you watch it from Netflix or from the DVD's, they have it in the order it "should" have been, not the original airing, at least that's how I understand it.  There is debate about this online, and below I'll list the two.  The first is the "dvd" list, the second the production code list.  Both are far better than the original "aired" version, and it's the last few episodes that is the difference between them.

The original "aired" list was very screwed up, also there was a huge time gap between the final few episodes, which never even aired in the USA until 2005 or so.

DVD as is -


    Serenity
    The Train Job
    Bushwhacked
    Shindig
    Safe
    Our Mrs. Reynolds
    Jaynestown
    Out of Gas
    Ariel
    War Stories
    Trash
    The Message
    Heart of Gold
    Objects in Space


The "die hard" fan list:

Episodes 1-10 as per previous list/dvds.  Then 11: Heart of Gold, 12: Objects in Space, 13: Trash, 14: The Message.  This is technically according to Joss Whedon and others the order for the correct chronology within the show.


IMO you can watch it either way and still get pretty much the same thing out of it.  If you haven't watched it yet, do yourself a big favor, and do so ASAP, followed by the film if you haven't seen it, or even if you have.  It'll put a smile on your face.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Butcher on May 08, 2014, 09:06:59 PM
Damn I actually liked Firefly.... I wish netflix or AMC would pick it up and continue the show.

Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: rpm on May 08, 2014, 09:42:34 PM
I wish netflix or AMC would pick it up and continue the show.
Yeah, because FOX would be all cool with that.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Gman on May 08, 2014, 10:30:58 PM
That brings up an interesting point RPM.  The trades today had a story about Fox cancelling over a dozen programs.  I think we can all agree that bringing some type of Firefly show back, set in that universe, would certainly be more successful than the crap they just canned.  Why they haven't done so is beyond me.  Nathan Fillion and several other key actors have categorically stated they would drop everything to come back.  Even with contractual obligations, it could be worked out I'm sure.

There have been very few programs of only 13 episodes that have resonated so strongly with SO many fans such a long time after it initially aired.  The film is widely considered one of the better sci-fi films done as well.  I know if I was an exec at Fox I would vigorously pursue getting something Firefly related back on the air.
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: Rogue9Volt on May 08, 2014, 11:47:23 PM
Too bad the execs don't actually watch fox, or care about content...

 :(
Title: Re: The return of .... Firefly
Post by: GScholz on May 09, 2014, 07:34:43 AM
They actually do care about content. That's why they cancelled Firefly... It wasn't compatible with Fox's corporate image.