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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris79 on April 18, 2014, 09:03:51 AM
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Last night after the rooks reset the map quite a few people jumped into the WW1 arena, and to be completely honest it was the most fun I've had in a while. No 25k jugs, wirbs, ect ect. I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a once a week ww1 areana furball.
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add the claw :banana:
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WW1 Wirb:
(http://i033.radikal.ru/1003/94/258a8f75133b.jpg)
:D
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WW1 was a test bed for the new damage model. I believe that arena has been forgotten in terms of development. Maybe even some Blimps or AI bombers to attract some players so they don't get bored and log.
Manned guns in the blimps would be awesome. :rock
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WWI arena is pure dogfighting more than any other arena including the DA. Consequently it is always empty. It is undeniable evidence that dogfighting is the last thing that AH players are seeking.
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WWI arena is pure dogfighting more than any other arena including the DA. Consequently it is always empty. It is undeniable evidence that dogfighting is the last thing that AH players are seeking.
It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
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It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
Or there are no cannon-birds that fly 500mph
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It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
What doesn't help is it's not a fully functional arena. Had it been finished with goals just as the MA.... I bet there would be a full ww2 crowd in there.
More planes, bombers, derigibles, gv,s, a few more bases and some sort of small functioning strat.
<shrug>
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What doesn't help is it's not a fully functional arena. Had it been finished with goals just as the MA.... I bet there would be a full ww2 crowd in there.
More planes, bombers, derigibles, gv,s, a few more bases and some sort of small functioning strat.
<shrug>
You mean things to do other than dogfight?
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Agreed Saxman. The DrI is just ridiculous.
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It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
The f2 is faster and turns tighter, and every country has access to the plane that pwns the arena.
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WWI arena is pure dogfighting more than any other arena including the DA.
There are arenas which are worse off :noid
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There are arenas which are worse off :noid
EW? MW?
I do love WW1 there is more potential to the ACM in WW1 with the gyro planes than the WW2 planeset. Guys do no see beyond doing a circle sadly.
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The f2 is faster and turns tighter, and every country has access to the plane that pwns the arena.
Yes, but the Dr I is, for some reason, the domaint plane. The D7 in particular is just not a viable choice if you want to be competitive.
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Yes, but the Dr I is, for some reason, the domaint plane. The D7 in particular is just not a viable choice if you want to be competitive.
The DR1 used to over modelled and then they fixed it, in WW1 transitions equate to angles, one thing the d7 does well is go nose up to nose down like pendulum very quickly, and outrolls the gyro planes, a decent stick can use this to get a DR1 to stall out and punish him on the way down. D7 is an energy fighter.
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Yes, but the Dr I is, for some reason, the domaint plane. The D7 in particular is just not a viable choice if you want to be competitive.
And Jager being competitive is only putting in more deaths than the other guy, when I started in the F1 camel the DR1 was over modelled, I kept at it kept dying and learnt, in the end there were maybe only 1 or 2 the best DR1 guys who could beat me. You can do this in any plane so long as you don't mind dying a lot to learn the plane.
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Yes, but the Dr I is, for some reason, the domaint plane. The D7 in particular is just not a viable choice if you want to be competitive.
Because everybody sees that the f2 has a rear gunner and assumes that it must be a cow.
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There was close to 30 in there last night, I was just curious as to whether or not anyone else would like to set up a ww1 fight one night a week similar to how they do tank wars
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And Jager being competitive is only putting in more deaths than the other guy, when I started in the F1 camel the DR1 was over modelled, I kept at it kept dying and learnt, in the end there were maybe only 1 or 2 the best DR1 guys who could beat me. You can do this in any plane so long as you don't mind dying a lot to learn the plane.
If you look, I'm not doing too badly in the WWI arena, flying exclusively the DVII. Is it harder? Yes its harder, I actually have to do something other than turn circles. But I also see that the performance and structural tolerance differences are small enough that E-fighting is only marginally effective unless done PERFECTLY.
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If you look, I'm not doing too badly in the WWI arena, flying exclusively the DVII. Is it harder? Yes its harder, I actually have to do something other than turn circles. But I also see that the performance and structural tolerance differences are small enough that E-fighting is only marginally effective unless done PERFECTLY.
REALLY need to get the SPAD XIII in there, that could make a big difference.
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I held off two Dr1 in the D7 by doing the vertical up and down while they did circles. I remember before if I tried that in a D7, the wings ripped off. Something has changed. You can barrel roll the D7 now along with cutting across the Dr1's turn using the vertical with out breaking off parts of the plane. I stayed alive last night using the vertical like you do in the MA with 109, and I didn't hand kills away because the kite couldn't handle the maneuvering.
Something has changed since last year.
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If you look, I'm not doing too badly in the WWI arena, flying exclusively the DVII. Is it harder? Yes its harder, I actually have to do something other than turn circles. But I also see that the performance and structural tolerance differences are small enough that E-fighting is only marginally effective unless done PERFECTLY.
The parametres are different in WW1 think inches instead of feet, think thrust instead of zooming, the hardest plane in WW1 to fight and fly in is the F1 Camel I would rate it the hardest in the whole game.
If you need to go vert and stay out of guns use a climbing spiral to the right against gyro planes. Another thing against the gyro planes DR1 and F1 if you have to flat turn, turn to the left, a lot of the better DR1 sticks still turn poorly to the left as they fail to keep the gyro effect in check.
Something has changed since last year.
The only FM they changed since the arena started was that of the DR1 your probably just getting better :D
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If you look, I'm not doing too badly in the WWI arena, flying exclusively the DVII. Is it harder? Yes its harder, I actually have to do something other than turn circles. But I also see that the performance and structural tolerance differences are small enough that E-fighting is only marginally effective unless done PERFECTLY.
I read your nonsense to help me sleep :aok
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I read your nonsense to help me sleep :aok
Aww.... Danny still pissed off about me telling him to quit whining in the MA :ahand?
Want your bottle and blanket too?
(http://3.everyday-families.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/bye-bye-bottle-binky-blanket.jpg)
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Aww.... Danny still pissed off about me telling him to quit whining in the MA :ahand?
Want your bottle and blanket too?
(http://3.everyday-families.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/bye-bye-bottle-binky-blanket.jpg)
Don't even remember what you said to be truthful, probably your usual brand of mundane rhetoric.
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Don't even remember what you said to be truthful, probably your usual brand of mundane rhetoric.
Really? Sure got you riled up enough to PM me about it, Danny.
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From the beginning I said that arena was a mistake. I knew you were never going to get these guys out of their 190s and 51s, Las, Spiteens...ect into WW1 planes. That said every time I went into WW1 I had fun. I think its a nice setup but never had a chance against the "other" WW1 game no matter what happened.
I'll say this I bet most players would become much better in LWA if they spent time in WW1 as well as DA. WW1 is pure flight skill and positional flying. Get a little crowd in there and you can have a lot of fun.
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That said every time I went into WW1 I had fun.
Me too, thats the only success that matters :D glad they added it.
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The main problem with WWI is the small plane set and limited play options.
Add the SPAD XIII, a Nieuport (Nieuport 28 would best fit the current environment), and one of the Albatros line. Maybe the SE5a, as well. Add bombers and ground targets to attack. And Zeppelins. Maybe even observation balloons that need popping.
There's a lot that more that could be done for the WWI arena.
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I did not know they fixed the Dr1 :rock ... :rock
Shooting blimps would not be much fun. Having a game people work together for a goal would make it more attractive. Although, sitting next to ww2 its hard to choose ww1.
Im still waiting for a WW1 KOTH :pray
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It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
I hate that POS. I can't fly it for crum and always manage to die to it. :headscratch:
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Really? Sure got you riled up enough to PM me about it, Danny.
I did? Must have been then
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It doesn't help at all that the Dr.I so completely owns the arena.
The DR.1 is way to fast in Aces High. (power plant one 110hp Oberursel UR.11 rotary engine max speed 102mph and that is being generous with the speed. I saw it listed else where at as slow as 90mph. While the Fokker D.VII has a 160hp or185hp Mercedes BML-III engine at 120mph to 125 (depending on where you read) with an excellent clime rate.
However to me in our WWI arena all these plane seem to fly the same speed with the edge to the DR.1. How about a Spad XIII with a 235hp Hispano-Suiza at 135mph tossed in the arena. I personally do not think HTC will spend any more resources in the WWI arena the interest is just not there. :cheers:
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^^^
Let's ask him...HiTech, is there likely to be any further development of the WWI arena? Thank you.
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The DR.1 is way to fast in Aces High. (power plant one 110hp Oberursel UR.11 rotary engine max speed 102mph and that is being generous with the speed. I saw it listed else where at as slow as 90mph. While the Fokker D.VII has a 160hp or185hp Mercedes BML-III engine at 120mph to 125 (depending on where you read) with an excellent clime rate.
However to me in our WWI arena all these plane seem to fly the same speed with the edge to the DR.1. How about a Spad XIII with a 235hp Hispano-Suiza at 135mph tossed in the arena. I personally do not think HTC will spend any more resources in the WWI arena the interest is just not there. :cheers:
If you looked at the speed charts you'd see that the Dr1 and Camel tie for last place. The DVII is faster and the F2b is fastest.
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If you looked at the speed charts you'd see that the Dr1 and Camel tie for last place. The DVII is faster and the F2b is fastest.
By a few mph, yeah. But 90 is pretty slow compared to the 117 of the DVII.
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The Dr1 and Camel top speeds were within 2 mph of each other. Close enough for individual planes to vary as much.
According to this study our Dr1 should have a lower climb rate than the Camel but it's based on theory not measured performance.
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=tQnkRjmeR8srJC9YTAaybs