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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 68valu on April 29, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
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Good riddance and I hope it was miserable for him...
68valu
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So sad for you. :(
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So sad for you. :(
You need not feel bad for me. Don't bother with your dribble.
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Good riddance and I hope it was miserable for him...
+1 almost like being buried alive, thing called KARMA bit him in the arse
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Good riddance and I hope it was miserable for him...68valu
+1
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I don't care how it was for him either way.
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I don't care how it was for him either way.
Nope. Not one iota :old:
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If he was scum than good riddence to bad rubbish :old:
And this self righteous moral gibberish that can go in the dog turd bin as well :old:
If your a wrong un your going to the hot place :old:
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Kill people who kill people to show people why its wrong to kill people? :headscratch:
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Kill people who kill people to show people why its wrong to kill people? :headscratch:
It doesn't teach anyone anything, it's not a deterrent, it is however the best way to remove some oxygen thief and save taxpayers the cost of keeping him :old:
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It doesn't teach anyone anything, it's not a deterrent, it is however the best way to remove some oxygen thief and save everyone the cost of keeping him :old:
when we have our first oxygen shortage your argument will be valid. :aok
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Something does not have to be in short supply to be stolen :old:
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Something does not have to be in short supply to be stolen :old:
like a life?
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like a life?
Touche'
Are we talking about his worthless butt or the innocent lives he took?
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Touche'
Are we talking about his worthless butt or the innocent lives he took?
Is a murder more valuable dead, or as a living example to learn what drives people to commit these terrible crimes? It almost seems a disservice to the victims if we can't learn how to stop this happening in the future.
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Is a murder more valuable dead, or as a living example to learn what drives people to commit these terrible crimes? It almost seems a disservice to the victims if we can't learn how to stop this happening in the future.
Hmmm, thought about it, I still say top him. Do we really need to know that the guy committed these crimes because he was a nutball? You could still end him and know this is the case.
Honestly for all the cuddly, social experimentation, psychobabbling that goes on in todays justice systems, we still haven't managed to stop evil little buggers from murdering people simply because they enjoy the way it makes them feel.
You will never stop crime, whether it be petty theft, or rape and murder. The population of the world are breeding at an exponential rate, the majority of these kids will grow up and live their lives with no issues, some will be great, some will be scum, studying why someone has a poorly wired melon is not going to remove the scum factor any more than you are going to remove the percentile that becomes something amazing.
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Hmmm, thought about it, I still say top him. Do we really need to know that the guy committed these crimes because he was a nutball? You could still end him and know this is the case.
Honestly for all the cuddly, social experimentation, psychobabbling that goes on in todays justice systems, we still haven't managed to stop evil little buggers from murdering people simply because they enjoy the way it makes them feel.
You will never stop crime, whether it be petty theft, or rape and murder. The population of the world are breeding at an exponential rate, the majority of these kids will grow up and live their lives with no issues, some will be great, some will be scum, studying why someone has a poorly wired melon is not going to remove the scum factor any more than you are going to remove the percentile that becomes something amazing.
why stop at murders? Rapist destroy lives in the worst imaginable way. Why do they get a pass using that logic?
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Is a murder more valuable dead, or as a living example to learn what drives people to commit these terrible crimes? It almost seems a disservice to the victims if we can't learn how to stop this happening in the future.
So you are okay with doing medical experiments on them without their consent as part of their sentencing I take it? I am curious where the moral line is. He was punished for his crime, not every sentence is a deterrent nor should all be expected to be. I very much doubt that at any time in the future will your "cure" for fixing this behavior be found. I do like how you presume to know what every victims needs though, or even what they might want. I wish I were so wise. I do regret if this person suffered during their execution simply because it is not the purpose to make them suffer in the name of justice, it lowers the deed to their level. There should be a clear cut difference between a criminal act and a legal one.
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why stop at murders? Rapist destroy lives in the worst imaginable way. Why do they get a pass using that logic?
I never said that I thought they should get a pass. I would be happy for them to go the same way.
Rapists commit one of the most abhorrent acts, in some ways worse than murder, I would have not the first issue with them suffering the same punishment, whilst you are at it, throw in child molesters as well :old:
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I never said that I thought they should get a pass. I would be happy for them to go the same way.
Rapists commit one of the most abhorrent acts, in some ways worse than murder, I would have not the first issue with them suffering the same punishment, whilst you are at it, throw in child molesters as well :old:
Would you volunteer to swing the axe?
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So you are okay with doing medical experiments on them without their consent as part of their sentencing I take it? I am curious where the moral line is. He was punished for his crime, not every sentence is a deterrent nor should all be expected to be. I very much doubt that at any time in the future will your "cure" for fixing this behavior be found. I do like how you presume to know what every victims needs though, or even what they might want. I wish I were so wise. I do regret if this person suffered during their execution simply because it is not the purpose to make them suffer in the name of justice, it lowers the deed to their level. There should be a clear cut difference between a criminal act and a legal one.
Yes. Knowledge is power.
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So you are okay with doing medical experiments on them without their consent as part of their sentencing I take it?
Mengele also had great success in doing human tests with prisoners. :noid
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So you are okay with doing medical experiments on them without their consent as part of their sentencing I take it? I am curious where the moral line is. He was punished for his crime, not every sentence is a deterrent nor should all be expected to be. I very much doubt that at any time in the future will your "cure" for fixing this behavior be found. I do like how you presume to know what every victims needs though, or even what they might want. I wish I were so wise. I do regret if this person suffered during their execution simply because it is not the purpose to make them suffer in the name of justice, it lowers the deed to their level. There should be a clear cut difference between a criminal act and a legal one.
You're reading a lot into what he's saying that isn't there.
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A lot of people only see the punishment and deterrent part of the sentencing. "How to stop this from happening in the future..." Some people forget that a murder sentence also need to satisfy the vengeance for the family of the victim(s).
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On a personal note I must say I don't like this needle and gas business. I think the firing squad and the gallows were better.
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Mengele also had great success in doing human tests with prisoners. :noid
A four-time felon, Lockett was convicted of shooting 19-year-old Stephanie Neiman with a sawed-off shotgun and watching as two accomplices buried her alive in rural Kay County in 1999 after Neiman and a friend arrived at a home the men were robbing.
Can you figure out the difference or do I have to explain it to you?
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Would you volunteer to swing the axe?
Quite honestly, without a hint of compunction
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Can you figure out the difference or do I have to explain it to you?
Also Mengeles prisoners were found guilty at their law system. That is not the point. Either you justify human trials that bring suffering or you don't. Keep in mind that it's estimated that dozens of people not guilty to the crimes they were charged with have also been executed. Do they earn to suffer also, on top of being executed innocent?
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Also Mengeles prisoners were found guilty at their law system. That is not the point. Either you justify human trials that bring suffering or you don't. Keep in mind that it's estimated that dozens of people not guilty to the crimes they were charged with have also been executed. Do they earn to suffer also, on top of being executed innocent?
:huh
JERUSALEM — One witness described how Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele ripped an infant from its mother`s womb, then hurled it into an oven because it wasn`t a twin as he had hoped. Another told of killing her newborn infant rather than let it starve in a Mengele experiment. A third witness recounted how Mengele kept hundreds of human eyes pinned to his lab wall ``like a collection of butterflies.``
One by one about 30 survivors of the Auschwitz concentration camp related their accounts of Nazi horror to a packed auditorium at Jerusalem`s Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial. Mengele is accused of sending 400,000 Jews to their death at Auschwitz from 1943 to 1945. But these survivors were kept alive because they were twins, and he wanted them for medical experiments aimed at creation of an Aryan superrace.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-02-07/news/8501080137_1_josef-mengele-israel-and-west-germany-auschwitz
If you'd like I could fill pages about Mengele's victims and let YOU tell me what they were guilty of. Also there is a difference between an accident delivering justice to a vicious condemned murderer and the intentional torture and murder of completely innocent human beings. Boy Ripley you have said some dumb things in the past but this does take the cake.
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Quite honestly, without a hint of compunction
Me too.
As a victim of murder, my brother was stolen from us by meth-heads, I can quite honestly say this guy in OK, he got off easy, 10mins of suffering (maybe, clenching teeth is no cognitive indication) compared to the lifetime of suffering he inflicted on others and coupled with terror and horror on his victims.
Yah lets give em tv and magazines and nice walks in the court yard on sunny days when their victims see the inside of a pine box.
Get a rope, no hood necessary - I'd like to look em in the eyes.
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:huh
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-02-07/news/8501080137_1_josef-mengele-israel-and-west-germany-auschwitz
If you'd like I could fill pages about Mengele's victims and let YOU tell me what they were guilty of. Also there is a difference between an accident delivering justice to a vicious condemned murderer and the intentional torture and murder of completely innocent human beings. Boy Ripley you have said some dumb things in the past but this does take the cake.
Boy you fail to see the point. Either you justify the torture and human trials on convicted prisoners or you don't. Mengeles prisoners were lawfully convicted in nazi Germany, it has nothing to do with the fact that they didn't earn it. Just the same as many prisoners on death row are lawfully convicted but sometimes wrongfully accused and therefore didn't earn it.
If you do human trials that cause inhumane ways of death to convicts that are not necessarily even guilty, you're no better than Mengele.
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why stop at murders? Rapist destroy lives in the worst imaginable way. Why do they get a pass using that logic?
nope shouldnt get a free pass, rapists and child molestors should get the absolut worst, I cant post what I believe should happen but it isnt good :salute
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Aside from my personal feelings that they ought to receive heinous deaths, the law exists and is executed for sake of righteousness, it is (unfortunately imo) not an eye for an eye. Modern US execution is not intended to resemble anything barbaric. It is rather easy, it is intended to be punitive, murderers take life(s) and the state takes theirs in the manner that society collectively sees fit and acceptable.
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http://newsok.com/three-face-charges-in-perry-crime-spree/article/2656291
'he young women were bound with duct tape. Neiman's friend was raped by all three men, authorities said.'
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/death-looms-for-clayton-lockett-years-after-killing-oklahoma-teen/article_e459564b-5c60-5145-a1ce-bbd17a14417b.html
'Neiman was forced to watch as Lockett's accomplice, Shawn Mathis, spent 20 minutes digging a shallow grave in a ditch beside the road. Her friends saw Neiman standing in the ditch and heard a single shot.
Lockett returned to the truck because the gun had jammed. He later said he could hear Neiman pleading, "Oh God, please, please" as he fixed the shotgun.
The men could be heard "laughing about how tough Stephanie was" before Lockett shot Neiman a second time.
"He ordered Mathis to bury her, despite the fact that Mathis informed him Stephanie was still alive."'
If these guys don't deserve execution than possibly no one ever has.
However, the prevailing socio-wind in Tucson is no different than LA, San Francisco & Chicago.
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What time does Skuzzy arrive at the office?
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What time does Skuzzy arrive at the office?
About 10mins before this thread is locked......got to give the man time to have a coffee before facing the BBS, and a few asprin and a handful of Rolaids, with a Pepto chaser, garnished with a Prilosec. (all served on a cold compress of course)
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The punishment for taking a life should last a life time.
I suggest a convicted killer should be in total isolation with no anything or interaction with anyone. Over in the corner of the tiny room, a small red box. In the box, an instant death pill. It then becomes the killer's choice to take his or her life.
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The punishment for taking a life should last a life time.
I suggest a convicted killer should be in total isolation with no anything or interaction with anyone. Over in the corner of the tiny room, a small red box. In the box, an instant death pill. It then becomes the killer's choice to take his or her life.
This would be ok maybe if it can be proved without any shadow of a doubt that the convict is guilty. However the system has convicted dozens of non guilty persons.
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This is not a productive discussion. It is quite apparent everyone has their own ideals and they are convicted to those ideals.
There are far too many bulletin board posting violations in this thread.