Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: hotcoffe on May 27, 2014, 12:58:25 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psUvAUw37D8
I hope they add it to game as soon as they have some spear time...
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I hope it is on HTC's short list.
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In due time.... in due time. Oh yes, in due time.
Any bets? ;)
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Yeah, the Beau is one of those machines that just makes me scratch my head over why it hasn't been added yet.
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In due time.... in due time. Oh yes, in due time.
Any bets? ;)
2 weeks :aok
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I have consulted the spirits and they told me for sure that the Beau will follow immediately after the terrain update.
Though the vision was kind of blurry with purple smoke and unicorns and all.
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Forgotten warhorse? pfft. No one has forgotten the Beau.
The Whirlwind? Now THAT was a warhorse that served a tremendous role, did tons of damage and serious fighting over the Channel and into France, and has been all but forgotten, except by a very few and of course by those who flew it and loved it.
But I digress....
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Forgotten warhorse? pfft. No one has forgotten the Beau.
The Whirlwind? Now THAT was a warhorse that served a tremendous role, did tons of damage and serious fighting over the Channel and into France, and has been all but forgotten, except by a very few and of course by those who flew it and loved it.
But I digress....
Yes :old: Add them both :old:
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Forgotten warhorse? pfft. No one has forgotten the Beau.
The Whirlwind? Now THAT was a warhorse that served a tremendous role, did tons of damage and serious fighting over the Channel and into France, and has been all but forgotten, except by a very few and of course by those who flew it and loved it.
But I digress....
It actually didnt have much of a role at all. Only two squadrons were equipped with it and only a little over 100 were built. Definitely one of those "what if" birds.
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Some chap that designed and perfected the bouncing bomb, Barnes-Wallis has a forgotten warhorse, it was called the Wellington.
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New mate of mine (kid's high school) is son of a Beau pilot on 31 Sqn RAAF, have even managed to find a pic of his old man and a couple of his combat reports on the Australian War Memorial website - hope to pass them across to him tomorrow at a school event.
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I hope it is on HTC's short list.
Haven't we been waiting since 2001?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psUvAUw37D8
Thanks for this. Nice films, excellent music, just wish the narrator was speaking a language I could understand.
- oldman
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It actually didnt have much of a role at all. Only two squadrons were equipped with it and only a little over 100 were built. Definitely one of those "what if" birds.
Yes, because there aren't any what-if birds already <cough> 47-M <cough>
Bring the Whirlwind and the Beau! :aok
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It actually didnt have much of a role at all. Only two squadrons were equipped with it and only a little over 100 were built. Definitely one of those "what if" birds.
3 squadrons were, 167, 263 and 25
122 were built which admittedly is low, but we do have the ar234 (200 odd) and the Ta152 (less than 50) and the Me163 (400)
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I'd like to see it added though I'm guessing the visibility is just slightly better than GIs cramming around that little round window in the back of a Sikorsky...no rear view, side view low obscured by those big engines hanging forward. Is the forward view about the same as a 109?
Bring on the Beau!
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One note, with the Beau comes the absolute need of proper targets.
AH needs to finally launch a convoy system with a dozen or so Liberty ships and half a dozen destroyer escorts. Give the Beau a target!
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3 squadrons were, 167, 263 and 25
122 were built which admittedly is low, but we do have the ar234 (200 odd) and the Ta152 (less than 50) and the Me163 (400)
And look at the number of missions flown by those 3 squadrons, the amount of shipping and ground targets destroyed, and their casualty rate..... They MORE than did their share.
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No to the beau, more german stuff!
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Says the guy with the Ruskie avatar.....
:headscratch:
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I can only find info on two squadrons who used it operationally. 263 and 137. 25 squadron was switched over to Beaus for night fighting. I call the air frame "what if" not as a disrespect but more like "what if" they had ironed out the engine issues and stuck with the air plane? I think it would have been a fine raider with the added advantage of, correct me if Im wrong, being very maneuverable for a twin. I like the plane despite its troubled history.
You cant compare the P47M to the WW cause the 47M was a airframe made in the thousands with just some engine differences.
In the end hard choices had to be made and the RAF already had battle proven twins in the Beaufighter and the Mossie. A lot of resources were needed for the Huge strategic Bomber force they were building. In the end the WW lost out.
While I'd love to see the WW In order of "1st wishes" I'd like to see the Beau 1st and the KI-45 2nd. I Love the twins, most of all the TU but I do love them all, "Mossie is special to me as well". ;)
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In the end hard choices had to be made and the RAF already had battle proven twins in the Beaufighter and the Mossie. A lot of resources were needed for the Huge strategic Bomber force they were building. In the end the WW lost out.
The RAF was not interested in twin-engine fighters. They were quite happy with their single engine fighters and did not need another expensive fighter. They were completely uninterested in a day-fighter version of the mossie, even after the initial study by DH indicated it would be a beast - until the post war Hornet.
Inspite of being a good fighter and fighter-bomber, the WW did not offer anything really unique. Single crew ruled out many missions done by Beaus and Mossies, in particular night fighter and long range strike/intruder/photo-rec missions. Its range did not support such missions either. The Beau on the other hand did a long long list of missions - the ones that are NOT done by Spits. It had many unique niches until it was replaced by the mossie, but even then it kept a few roles to itself, especially in environments of extreme conditions (i.e. the far east). Serving from beginning to the end of WWII is an incredible feat. This is not like the Spits and 109, whose 1945 version has only exterior resemblance to their 1939 version. The Beau underwent improvements, but nothing that extreme, and still saw heavy use in 1945. ~6000 produced (vs. ~200 Whirlwinds) make it a very significant allied plane.
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One note, with the Beau comes the absolute need of proper targets.
AH needs to finally launch a convoy system with a dozen or so Liberty ships and half a dozen destroyer escorts. Give the Beau a target!
Since when did the Beaufighter attack liberty ships and allied shipping? :noid
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Since when did P-47's bomb M-4 Shermans, and JU-87G2's pop Panzers? :noid
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Since when did P-47's bomb M-4 Shermans, and JU-87G2's pop Panzers? :noid
He said proper targets, not MA mixup.
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And look at the number of missions flown by those 3 squadrons, the amount of shipping and ground targets destroyed, and their casualty rate..... They MORE than did their share.
I was arguing in favour of the Whirlwind. Maybe I should have tried harder. I merely was attempting to demonstrate that we have myriad aircraft in the game that are less deserving of their place :old:
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Since when did the Beaufighter attack liberty ships and allied shipping? :noid
Since F6Fs and Corsairs bomb American CV's. :)
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Proper target, as in a merchant ship, the Liberty Ship being by far the most common merchant ship on the face of the earth. If we add the Beau what are they going to currently do, shoot AI acks on a field?
Yes, bring on the convoy system!
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on thing at a time...
lets first get the new graphic engine
than the new plane
and than the convoys
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I was arguing in favour of the Whirlwind. Maybe I should have tried harder. I merely was attempting to demonstrate that we have myriad aircraft in the game that are less deserving of their place :old:
I was just agree with you, and adding to your statement in counter to Rich46yo..... ;)
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I'm of the opinion that once this new version of AH gets cracking, and goes from Beta to full retail version, I think HTC's production will be a lot faster in terms of new aircraft. IMO they'll be in nose to the grindstone mode, and once the numbers surge as I hope they will in terms of subscribers, that will be a motivating factor with regards to adding new and interesting rides, ships, etc and etc.