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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: gblade30 on June 13, 2014, 07:53:37 AM
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http://collider.com/fury-trailer-brad-pitt/#MJgAuGW3lxR4WKGQ.01
whats every1 think is this gonna be worth watching ????
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Shia LaBeouf, Michael Pena
There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
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There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
Yep, similar thoughts to mine, as long as Affleck shows up in a Pony shouting "hammer down" it should be a good flick :banana:
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There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
thats what i thought too :cheers:
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Hopefully the attention to detail with regards to equipment is high for this one. Historical accuracy is paramount for the scrutinizing military history buff which most of us are. This makes me think back to Enemy at the Gates, which in itself, was a very good movie right up until the point where I spotted the dead T-34/85 in town. :bhead
Hopefully Fury has a lock on the accuracy.
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One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well. Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)
Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.
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Those of us who have studied the war, spoken with the veterans who were there, and have researched the hard data will have to keep in mind that this movie is for entertainment purposes. On the same token, much of what is seen on the History Channel and Military Chanel is rather watered down so everyone watching it can grasp the "facts" and drama. So be careful of what you see on TV or in the movies, period. Original sources, veteran testimony, and hard data from military testing/trials/engagements will take you, as an amateur historian, a lot further. In the meantime just enjoy the movie and a bowl of popcorn, ok? :D
Can a Sherman tank destroy a Tiger I? Sure, under the right circumstances. :aok
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One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way.
I guess they figure it's a logistics of filming thing is why they do this. But then you have a movie like Das Boot which literally oozed the claustrophobia of the tiny space of the u-boat BECAUSE of the way it was filmed. That's the effect I'd rather see projected.
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One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots.
Yeah, I can recall several B-movies from the 40's and 50's with tank interiors that looked more like handball courts. And anyone who's ever crawled up thru the forward crew hatch on a B-17 knows how spacious that airplane is. :huh
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One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well. Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)
Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.
Coupled with the fact that it took a British Military victory and portrayed it as a US one, along with the bumbling English duffers in the background :confused:
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Just did some research on "Fury". Apparently they used a REAL Tiger (1st time in a film) for some of the filming. Still I suspect the movie to be "Hollywoodfied" to the point of being laughable. We'll see.
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Stalingrad had a good infantry vs tank battle until you spied the post WW2 tanks in the background behind the T34s. It was still a good scene, and you did capture the terror of such a fight, as long as you took it with a grain of salt.
Im sure they had no problem finding Shermans but are there even any rolling Tigers left? Or are they all going to have to be CG?
The myth still seems to persist the Sherman was a useless tank. The Shermans with their 17lb'ers were a great enough threat to tie down most of the best German armor around Caen allowing an allied break out. Even the 75mm could kill a Tiger but the Sherman really became a dangerous tank with the 76mm HV gun. One has to realize if there was ever terrain favorable to defense, and troops able to use such terrain, it was the German army in Normandy in the summer of '44.
There were some great panzer units in France at the time and they fought their tanks very well using all the advantages available.
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too Hollywood prolly
Wasn't even familiar with a new Stalingrad release until now.
This Stalingrad was a good movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalingrad_%281993_film%29
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One of the worst parts about these kind of movies for me are the interior shots. Some of the plane interior scenes in Red Tails made the insides of the plane look too big (the B17's crew/gunner areas especially), U571 was the same way. From the clip shown for Fury in your link it appears that the inside of the Sherman is quite spacious as well. Maybe I'm full of it, but its those kinds of things that kill the immersion for me. (and scenes like the end of Red Tails when the main character takes several 30mm explosive shells to the chest, yet he somehow isn't turned into a red meaty goo spread over the cockpit :rolleyes:)
Still...I'm sure I'll end up watching Fury as it still looks much better than Monuments Men; might wait for it to hit the red-box kiosk though.
Red Tails and U-571 are two of the worst films in the history of films!
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Red Tails and U-571 are two of the worst films in the history of films!
Indeed!
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Red Tails and U-571 are two of the worst films in the history of films!
+1
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There's 2 reasons it could really suck. I also have a suspicion they will show a single Sherman ripping through Tigers according to the story.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
I read Michael Pena as Michael Cera and realized that there should be a movie adaptation of Slaughterhouse-Five starring Michael Cera as Billy Pilgrim in Germany
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As long as this isn't Pearl Harbor all over again!
Having spent many a long stretch of time in a tank turret, they are cramped. Unable to fully stand up, lay down, etc. Lots of moving parts and plenty of ways to hurt yourself. Im guessing for a movie it would take a whole other type of camera work to show how cramped they are. It is that tightish nature that adds to the fatigue. Staying buttoned up for ever, long road marches, etc...I've only done it for weeks on end, not months.
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Coupled with the fact that it took a British Military victory and portrayed it as a US one, along with the bumbling English duffers in the background :confused:
The colonials never rewrite history :old:
Apologise Danny :old:
Bumbling is the national past time of the British, that is why old Narzzies are in a bad mood,they complain "we could not beat the Britsh twice?". :cry
We invented the Jet engine,P51 engine and the English language, its amazing really considering the UK isfull of retards
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Oh please... You Brits owe your existence to the US. After all, Ben Affleck won the Battle of Britain almost single-handedly! And later Brad Pitt and a handful of Jews won the war by machine-gunning Hitler in a Paris cinema! :old:
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The colonials never rewrite history :old:
Apologise Danny :old:
Bumbling is the national past time of the British, that is why old Narzzies are in a bad mood,they complain "we could not beat the Britsh twice?". :cry
We invented the Jet engine,P51 engine and the English language, its amazing really considering the UK isfull of retards
As well as them we also invented almost everything else.
We stopped inventing stuff when the country filled with chaos and liberals
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'Can a Sherman tank destroy a Tiger I? Sure, under the right circumstances'
Just ask Oddball.. re: Kelly's Hero's
As for the actual tactics of Sherman vs Tiger
My Dad said he watched 3 Shermans engage a Tiger in France one fine day long ago.
He said it always took 3 and they'd lose one or two every time, depending on how well the 3 worked together.
One would tease the Tiger from the front while the other two would flank both sides,
with a bit of luck one would get a rear angle shot on the Tiger from fairly close range.
And balls. Big Ones.
Dad had two close encounters with Tigers during the mad dash across France.
First one he went over a hill, Tiger was mid-road at the bottom, looking their way.
They all bailed ..jeep blew up.. and they ran like hell.
Second encounter, friend of his and him rounded a corner in a French town and
ran right into the back of a Tiger.
Tiger backed up.
As their Jeep was being mulched, Dad jumped out with the bazooka, on one side.
His friend jumped out with the backpack fulla bazooka rockets on the other side.
No way were they crossin the street to hook up.
3 months later my Dad made it back to American lines..never saw his friend again.
Dad was forward radio observer for one of the Arty battalions part of Patton's 3rd.
His name is on that statue thingy on the Normandy beach.
He was 17 when he waded ashore.. crazy bastage, loved his Springfield.
-Frank aka GE
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"That's Paint!"
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"That's Paint!"
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"That's Paint!"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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At this point Im grateful for any WW2 movie that makes it to production. Red Tails might have sucked but the P40s looked pretty good in it. There are still some undiscovered foreign ones out there. I keep recommending the Japanese made movie "Yamato". While you have to read subtitles its really a good overall movie and worth the price of the DVD. The final scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1-zsd7Sn0
It chronicles the lives of some very young sailors assigned to her and really finalizes the death of the Battleship era. The actual movie shows even more dramatically the horribly effective tactic of the USN to strafe one side of a BB in order to reduce the AA for the torpedo planes.
I'll go see this new one. There are very few even making it to theaters nowadays.
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There are still some undiscovered foreign ones out there. I keep recommending the Japanese made movie "Yamato".
Yeah, that flying battleship is cool!
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I'm with Rich -- they might suck, but I'm glad they make them even so.
Also, there are occasionally very, very good ones, even in modern times (Band of Brothers, Das Boot, Downfall, Saving Private Ryan, Dark Blue World). And, of course, many excellent WWII movies that aren't new but awesome (Theirs is the Glory, 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, Twelve O'clock High, Midway, Piece of Cake, A Bridge Too Far, Battle of Britain, The Best Years of our Lives).
I hear that an HBO series based on Masters of the Air is in development. That could be amazing.
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We invented the Jet engine,P51 engine and the English language
And computers, the WWW, the magnetron, the smallpox vaccine, the tank, penicillin, the industrial revolution, the pencil, and a thousand other great things.
And they had Isaac Newton, James Clerk Maxwell, Charles Darwin, Michael Faraday, Robert Hooke, John Dalton, Francis Crick, Humphry Davy, and hundreds of other great scientists.
Unfortunately, though, Marx and Engels took up residence in London.
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And computers, the WWW, the magnetron, the smallpox vaccine, the tank, penicillin, the industrial revolution, the pencil, and a thousand other great things.
And they had Isaac Newton, James Clerk Maxwell, Charles Darwin, Michael Faraday, Robert Hooke, John Dalton, Francis Crick, Humphry Davy, and hundreds of other great scientists.
Unfortunately, though, Marx and Engels took up residence in London.
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'Can a Sherman tank destroy a Tiger I? Sure, under the right circumstances'
Just ask Oddball.. re: Kelly's Hero's
As for the actual tactics of Sherman vs Tiger
My Dad said he watched 3 Shermans engage a Tiger in France one fine day long ago.
He said it always took 3 and they'd lose one or two every time, depending on how well the 3 worked together.
One would tease the Tiger from the front while the other two would flank both sides,
with a bit of luck one would get a rear angle shot on the Tiger from fairly close range.
And balls. Big Ones.
Dad had two close encounters with Tigers during the mad dash across France.
First one he went over a hill, Tiger was mid-road at the bottom, looking their way.
They all bailed ..jeep blew up.. and they ran like hell.
Second encounter, friend of his and him rounded a corner in a French town and
ran right into the back of a Tiger.
Tiger backed up.
As their Jeep was being mulched, Dad jumped out with the bazooka, on one side.
His friend jumped out with the backpack fulla bazooka rockets on the other side.
No way were they crossin the street to hook up.
3 months later my Dad made it back to American lines..never saw his friend again.
Dad was forward radio observer for one of the Arty battalions part of Patton's 3rd.
His name is on that statue thingy on the Normandy beach.
He was 17 when he waded ashore.. crazy bastage, loved his Springfield.
-Frank aka GE
Some amazing stories, thanks for sharing. :salute