Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: skorpx1 on June 15, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
-
What's got everyone up in a bunch about 262's lately? Seems like everyone that even thinks about upping one gets roasted on 200 and in PM's (Which is funny for the most part). Nothing wrong with other guys bringing out the hair dryer if they're paying their $14.95 each month.
I say if you got the perks to up a 262, then go ahead and do as you please with it. :old:
Don't wanna fight a 262 for long? HO it! That usually ends up with a flaming 262 briquette and some rage PM's. :banana:
Hate 262's? Don't get shot down by one. Did you know that the leading cause of death in Aces High is by another player attacking you? :eek:
Lastly, hate the plane not the player. Aint our faults that the darn thing gots a ton of speed! :bolt:
-
Where is that 262 pilot flying his plane?
-around a bigarse horde of red? Hes doing it well! Fussing is just the primary reaction of the hordelings.
-in a situation where there arent many red guys? Let him waste his time and land 2-3 kills after flying for 30-35 minutes.
Any questions? ;)
-
Amen
-
262s were cheap. There were 2 of them interfering with base taking plans. I launched mine to try and kill them (I failed in that regard). Stumbled across this guy at 15k picking on bombers and unwary fighters. I killed him while I was in a full red out with negative Gs. This was the congratulations I got.
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/DragonTamer1X/Planes/ahss7-1.png)
:rofl
After responding, I got another, more nasty PM. :)
-
I'm going to have to test this later today. Wonder if I can convince some fellows to do a 262 raid with me :devil
-
What's got everyone up in a bunch about 262's lately? Seems like everyone that even thinks about upping one gets roasted on 200 and in PM's (Which is funny for the most part). Nothing wrong with other guys bringing out the hair dryer if they're paying their $14.95 each month.
I say if you got the perks to up a 262, then go ahead and do as you please with it. :old:
Don't wanna fight a 262 for long? HO it! That usually ends up with a flaming 262 briquette and some rage PM's. :banana:
Hate 262's? Don't get shot down by one. Did you know that the leading cause of death in Aces High is by another player attacking you? :eek:
Lastly, hate the plane not the player. Aint our faults that the darn thing gots a ton of speed! :bolt:
Saw some raging on 200 because of you flying a 262 and vulching them. Solution, up a wirb or OST and have a friend as bait :D
-
I almost got a good shot at a 262 yesterday in a P39D. I wonder how many perks that would have gotten me if I could have pulled around just a little quicker.
-
Saw some raging on 200 because of you flying a 262 and vulching them. Solution, up a wirb or OST and have a friend as bait :D
exactly lol..works every time for me
-
After upping a 262 the other day, it was only after I got 5 kills that two of the players I killed upped 262's to come get me. :uhoh
But they upped from the base that I was around, and that was rather silly, and they both ended up blowing up! :banana: :banana:
It was a rather fun sortie, I was going for 20 kills but I was HOed by Mossie and had to land 14 kills with some damage instead. :bhead
-
I enjoy the 262s so much, I made a video,,,,,,, years ago!
http://youtu.be/Oasv7dgQT9Y
-
I enjoy the 262s so much, I made a video,,,,,,, years ago!
http://youtu.be/Oasv7dgQT9Y
LOL great vid bud :salute
-
I dont fly them but they add excitement to the game and are a good thing.
If your in bombers and you go up against a skilled bomber killer in a 262 you have a serious problem. There seem to be much fewer of those in todays game. Nowdays I see players do all kind of dumb things in 262s.
-
LOL great vid bud :salute
Thank you kind sir!
-
I LOVE taking out the Deuce! It's such a different animal that one you master it--then it's addicting. I've had MORE FUN flying deuces in the last couple of tours than anytime in the last 30 tours. :aok
I even lost one last night. Most fun I have ever had losing 200 perkies -- and it never bothered me. :cool: They'll make more. :cool:
ROX
-
I almost got a good shot at a 262 yesterday in a P39D. I wonder how many perks that would have gotten me if I could have pulled around just a little quicker.
No more that if you'd shot down a Spit16. They're both 5 ENY if I recall correctly.
-
ive been known to De-ack a field in a 262, so mabe i should do that today..
-
Where is that 262 pilot flying his plane?
-around a bigarse horde of red? Hes doing it well! Fussing is just the primary reaction of the hordelings.
-in a situation where there arent many red guys? Let him waste his time and land 2-3 kills after flying for 30-35 minutes.
Any questions? ;)
Yeah. Why don't you see the guys that fly 51s in the same light? And I'll pose that question to the rest of you too. This community is weird. Everyone rags of the P51 guy that runs but never a harsh word for the Tempest or 262 guys that do the same exact thing. Why is that?
-
Yeah. Why don't you see the guys that fly 51s in the same light?
Because he's flying 262's himself, but not P-51s. ;)
-
perk risk
-
Yeah. Why don't you see the guys that fly 51s in the same light? And I'll pose that question to the rest of you too. This community is weird. Everyone rags of the P51 guy that runs but never a harsh word for the Tempest or 262 guys that do the same exact thing. Why is that?
51s are free..
-
Saw some raging on 200 because of you flying a 262 and vulching them. Solution, up a wirb or OST and have a friend as bait :D
I wasn't vulching in my 262. I was just horde killing. :)
Don't complain 'bout no darn 262's flying over if ya aint willing to die. :old:
-
I'm going to have to test this later today. Wonder if I can convince some fellows to do a 262 raid with me :devil
I will gladly do a 262 raid with you, but only if it's on a CV group!
-
:aok
(http://i57.tinypic.com/21kxelf.jpg)
-
:aok
(http://i57.tinypic.com/21kxelf.jpg)
Pure madness! :old:
-
It's hard to buy the "perk risk" and "51s are free" argument when some talk about or even post pictures of them attacking CVs with 262s. :lol
-
4 x 30mm makes a potent ship killer in this game, if a little expensive perk-wise. Too bad you can't fly 262s as attack sorties.
I have the same question about people who disparage LAs and ponies as runtards. Why does taking a perk plane make it acceptable to play in a way the same people claim is not legitimate for non-perk planes? If anything it's worse in the perk planes since they are that much more immune to everyone else if they keep their speed up.
The thing I really dislike about 262s, though, is the result of the perk system. Not losing the perks if you land the plane is a very, very, very bad thing because it encourages lame play. It's especially true if you've spent over 150 perks for that plane. The reward for not dying in a perk plane should be not dying, the same as it is for all the other planes.
-
Buying a 262 for a certain amount of perk points instead of renting it for the same amount? Brilliant idea Loki ! :x That should piss the jet dweebs off :rofl
-
I hate 262's.
-
I hate 262's.
Why? :huh
-
I hate 262's.
Why? They're harmless. Turn into them and they'll break away every time.
-
Why? :huh
I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes. They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's. You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand. If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.
-
I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes. They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's. You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand. If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.
Then you aren't fighting them correctly.
All you gotta do is HO them.
-
I don't think that they add any fun to a fight among prop planes. They zoom through fights, largely untouchable by anything other than fellow 262's. You need to keep an eye out for them when they are around, taking attention away from the fight at hand. If you are chasing someone, they are great at breaking you off, and if you are trying to make it away from a horde, they are great at pinning you down -- again, mostly without you being able to do anything in return.
The point is that it's fun for the guy in the 262. That's why he's risking all those perks. The peeps flying Hurris, Zekes and other slow turners are having the same difficulties dealing with Runstangs, Run90s and other fast late-war rides.
-
Then you aren't fighting them correctly.
All you gotta do is HO them.
1. That doesn't work well when you are in a many-on-many fight because, as you turn away from your fight to try to line up a HO on the 262, another guys shoots you down.
2. That doesn't work well when the 262 is competently flown.
-
The point is that it's fun for the guy in the 262. That's why he's risking all those perks.
Sure, it's fun for him. So would be a nuke available to 1000 perks, or a button someone can push for 100 perks a pop that cuts out everyone's engine for 10 seconds. It might be a giggle fest for that guy. But for that one guy's fun, there are a bunch of other people whose fun is diminished.
The peeps flying Hurris, Zekes and other slow turners are having the same difficulties dealing with Runstangs, Run90s and other fast late-war rides.
It's a matter of degree. How much salt do you like in your soup? Most people like some. Most do not like 5 lbs. of salt in their soup, though. P-51's, 190D's, etc. are like some salt. A 262 is like 5 lbs of salt.
-
Don't be a player hater. Be a player participator.
-
Sure, it's fun for him. So would be a nuke available to 1000 perks, or a button someone can push for 100 perks a pop that cuts out everyone's engine for 10 seconds. It might be a giggle fest for that guy. But for that one guy's fun, there are a bunch of other people whose fun is diminished.
It's a matter of degree. How much salt do you like in your soup? Most people like some. Most do not like 5 lbs. of salt in their soup, though. P-51's, 190D's, etc. are like some salt. A 262 is like 5 lbs of salt.
No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own. Unless you stumble upon one of those rare individuals who like losing, every time you pull the trigger on someone you're diminishing other people's fun. Why do you think ch200 is what it is?
A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.
Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.
-
No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own. Unless you stumble upon one of those rare individuals who like losing, every time you pull the trigger on someone you're diminishing other people's fun. Why do you think ch200 is what it is?
A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.
Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.
I wonder if I should post the screenshot of me nailing a 262 that went from my 6 to 12 o clock. Disappeared with a big 'poof', direct it with 88 :rock
Well, when I get my new computer, I may try out the 262, never flown it on my old rig because I would probably warp 3k at a time :lol
-
A new gaming rig might be needed then, yes! :cheers:
-
Saw some raging on 200 because of you flying a 262 and vulching them. Solution, up a wirb or OST and have a friend as bait :D
Like me, I had a 262 stalking me and a squadie dispatched him in a Wirble very nicely.
-
only thing to do is to add the Meteor MK III, then it will make the flying the 262 more enjoyable having something else to look out for.
Of course it can still run around like it does now but the virtual sky will be a little extra dangerous when quad hizookas start whizzing by.
Plus everything is cooler with roundels on it.
-
Yeah. Why don't you see the guys that fly 51s in the same light? And I'll pose that question to the rest of you too. This community is weird. Everyone rags of the P51 guy that runs but never a harsh word for the Tempest or 262 guys that do the same exact thing. Why is that?
Exuse me, just woke up.
How many P51s pilots are flying in and how many against the horde? ;)
Otherwise ask Latrobe how i was handling his lone 190D in my 262. Yes, i ended up biting the dust - ouch, the 190D turns better than the 262 :rofl
-
There's always someone who sees the 262 as a dirty airplane. But I suspect it's mostly a case of "the fox and the grapes" :bolt:.
I've been shot down by 262s but almost always in bombers since I'm a lousy gunner. If you're in a fighter it's quite easy to evade the passes or force a HO that he will most probably evade. Did that in a Mossie XVI a week ago.
-
Someone who brings a jet to a prop fight is a duche. They simply enjoy the feeling of invulnerability and frustrating the enemy. That is until they get over confident and decide to pass within 1000 yards in front of a mossie VI, or even more stupid - accept a HO. If they were there for the fight they would not turn tail and run when I show up in another 262 to hunt them down. Sure, some of them will beat me in a jet dogfight because frankly, I have no idea how to handle the jet, but still their first reaction is to run, run, run until they cant run anymore and only when out of options turn to fight.
In my moral ranking, flying a 262 is even lower than La7s and Yak3s, unless it is used to fight other jets. Chasing down F4U4s and tempests is also marginally acceptable when enemy jets are not available. Strafing GVs is cool. Since my $14.95 are greener, everyone should play by my rules.
The way to deal with an annoying 262 is to collect a few buddies and come with 4 262s to hunt him. I will pay the perks for the other 3 if HTC allowed it.
-
Bozon, i would be curious, how would you collect the "horde tax" without a jet?
Only talking about killing as many vulchers as possible. Bringing a jet to an even fight is something wrong in my book.
-
I wasn't vulching in my 262. I was just horde killing. :)
Don't complain 'bout no darn 262's flying over if ya aint willing to die. :old:
Someone was vulching in a 262 :devil
-
The 262, along with the pony and F6F, is one of the best base defense fighters in the game, able to repel a hoard if there are a few( repelled a bish 38 raid once with 4 262s). In that respect, it has no equal and if you don't fly with the hoard, you won't get shot down for the most part. My squad only uses the 262 for hoard defense and on rare occasions, buff hunting, so if you are not in a hoard, didn't just take one of our bases, or aren't in buffs, you are safe.
-
Bozon, i would be curious, how would you collect the "horde tax" without a jet?
Only talking about killing as many vulchers as possible. Bringing a jet to an even fight is something wrong in my book.
If you come in a 262 you may kill one, then do a long extend and come back again. Most passes they will just avoid you and keep on vulching.
Come in a mosquito. Everyone will stop the vulch and try to kill you. Even the paratroopers jump back into the C-47 and come after you. Vulch broken, let your friends shoot the fixated reds off of your tail.
-
I hate 'em because I can't hit doody in them...
-
There's one thing the 262 excels at:
No, not killing bombers. Not, not killing vulchers - Dragging vulchers away from a field. If there's really many of them, it's much more effective that trying to kill them all. Everybody wants to kill a 262, and if you fly low and so slow that they think they have a chance catching you... they will leave their perch and pile on you.
I have done that many a time, breaking a cap by playing Rat Catcher of Hamelin :D
-
262s are nothing more than an annoyance. Well... Except if SkyRock is in one. :uhoh
-
How many P51s pilots are flying in and how many against the horde? ;)
You'll often find me against the horde. I've single handedly wrecked many a Bish heavy fighter mission when I caught them from above. My favorite was breaking one up without firing a single shot, making most of them jettison and unsuccessfully chase me from alt down to the deck. The 200 taunts for the runstang were icing on the delicious cupcake. :aok
-
No one is responsible for other peoples fun, only their own.
Maybe and maybe not -- that's a personal choice. There are certainly people in the game (and in life) who feel that way, and there are people who feel the opposite (and so are helpful to newcomers, participate in group activities that maybe they don't like the best but feel like helping out such as by driving an M3, or resupplying some folks, or being a scout in a scenario, and so on).
However, that wasn't my point. I hate 262's. <--- that's a period at the end of that, right there.
A 262 is a hundred mph faster than a Pony. A Pony is a hundred mph faster than a Hurri. A Hurri is a hundred mph faster than a Stuka. A Stuka is a hundred mph faster than a Storch. A Storch is a hundred mph faster than a tank.
Everyone is faster than someone else unless you're in a chute.
Well, a 262 is 160 mph faster than a P-51; a Hurricane is 30 mph faster than a Stuka; and Storches, Tanks, and the airspeed of buildings and parachutes aren't relevant to the discussion (although if you disagree, I hope that we can still agree to forgo a debate over it). However, yes, a P-51 is 100 mph faster than a Hurricane.
But the game isn't everyone in a Hurricane and a few people in P-51's. The game is some people in Hurricanes, some in 109F's, some in Spit 16's, some in F6F's, etc. -- a distribution of planes that fully span that 100 mph gap. There isn't much in the 150 mph gap to the 262.
-
Also (a continuation of thoughts of my previous post), it is possible to have a historical scenario of all P-51's, P-47's, or P-38's on one side vs. all Zeroes on the other side. That is a approx. only a 60 mph gap -- and I can tell you from flying in one of those in Air Warrior the 1990's that it wasn't the most fun.
-
I have done that many a time, breaking a cap by playing Rat Catcher of Hamelin :D
Yup. It drags better than most.
I also understand Brooke's POV. I don't agree with it, but I understand why he doesn't like them in the game. Had a squaddie who was of the same opinion for similar reasons.
I think they add a bit of spice to a furball on occasion, and are useful for horde breaking. I generally don't like to see them flying in a large horde, although when you get one of those rare sustained many both sides furballs, it can be a ball with 262s on both sides trying to slow the other ones down enough so the prop planes can get at them.
Wiley.
-
You'll often find me against the horde.
Thats great! And how many ponies are you killing on each and every vulchbuster mission? ;)
If you come in a 262 you may kill one, then do a long extend and come back again. Most passes they will just avoid you and keep on vulching.
Come in a mosquito. Everyone will stop the vulch and try to kill you. Even the paratroopers jump back into the C-47 and come after you. Vulch broken, let your friends shoot the fixated reds off of your tail.
Indeed, the Mossie is awesome if you have friends :aok
Still, getting 10+ kills in the jet isnt that hard - but only on the vulchers.
-
In the reality of the MA, the 262 is predominantly being used as a bomber killer though.
-
In the reality of the MA, the 262 is predominantly being used as a bomber killer though.
That's interesting, based on my experience, I wonder if it might be more of a tendency to be predominantly more successful as a bomber killer, as opposed to that being the intended use of the sortie. Your stats are based on kills by, right? Most of the 262s I see flying are trying to kill unaware fighters with limited success.
Wiley.
-
I also see them flying around mostly to catch unaware fighters. I've certainly been bagged this way. They're pretty easy to shoot down from a bomber.
-
I only upped a 262 once in the MA...flew around looking for strat runners..went to land and blew up..didn't know about killing engine before landing.I only have 1000 fighter perks, thinking I'll try again :joystick:
-
I think the 262 hooks new players into the game. I remember when I first joined I'd spend hours in the TA just buzzing around in one just freaking on the awsomeness.
-
When I first started the game all I could dream of was having enough perks to fly a 262, after what seemed like forever I finally had enough. I took off away from the fight climbed to 15k to be safe, saw a low unaware set of lancs rtb and blew past them didn't hit at all, tried to pull up after the shot and realized I could not move the controls, I didn't know what compression is, so needless to say I sailed into the ground at 650+ mph, and that was my frist sortie in a 262 and what seemed like months of work earning perks. Lol
The 262 is to me a iconic airplane to fly, the first jet to enter combat, it to me is like the 51 to chose that idolize the pony. I fly a 262 maybe few times a tour lose them more often then not but nothing is more fun then ripping into a horde cap field and watching fighters scattor, I rarely hit sith it but the fun is more in watching red planes diving out of9f the way scared to get hit, unaware how shotty my shooting is :). That is all I got lol :cheers:
-
Your stats are based on kills by, right? Most of the 262s I see flying are trying to kill unaware fighters with limited success.
In 2013 the 262 killed
- 14,113 fighters. That means the 262 caused 0.95% of all fighter A2A deaths
- 16,685 bombers. That's 3.11% of all bomber A2A deaths
Me 262 k/d vs all fighters: 4.35
Me 262 k/d vs all bombers (excluding C-47!): 11.31
-
In 2013 the 262 killed
- 14,113 fighters. That means the 262 caused 0.95% of all fighter A2A deaths
- 16,685 bombers. That's 3.11% of all bomber A2A deaths
Me 262 k/d vs all fighters: 4.35
Me 262 k/d vs all bombers (excluding C-47!): 11.31
Idk, i have always had the feeling that attacking heavy bombers (B17/B24) was the biggest threat for my 262. Fighters only could hurt me with a HO what is easy to avoid while those buggers were spamming 50s in every direction like crazy.
-
Idk, i have always had the feeling that attacking heavy bombers (B17/B24) was the biggest threat for my 262. Fighters only could hurt me with a HO what is easy to avoid while those buggers were spamming 50s in every direction like crazy.
I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....
-
I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....
My SA is never an issue when I fly the 262. I'm downright paranoid in that thing. Flying it is like walking (albeit very quickly) while wearing a gold crown through the worst part of town. You WILL get noticed. The real issue for me is catching a stray .50 thru an engine, and then limping home for 10 minutes only to roll inverted at the end of the runway. :cry
-
I think the threat fighters are posing to you 262 is mainly depending on your SA and discipline. A player being able to keep a high SA all the time has little to fear. But not all (probably not even the majority of all) players fall under that category. Target fixation and SA fail causes jet deaths. So much focus on aquiring targets, hitting but not colliding with them at high speeds... and not enough focus left for the high 6 oclock, where a 47M is about to convert it's 10k alt advantage into speed....
True. I have died uncountable times to enemy fighters (the most common: very poor SA, misjudging energy states, jumped on takeoff, hitting the autopilot at 500ft 200mph, caught while TnBing, accepted a ho, mass head on by 20+ players :rofl , all kind of stupid and funny reasons), but theese were always my mistakes. Still, bombers were always just slowly eating my plane. One little ping here, another there, and after the 4th, 5th pass, my jet just fell apart - nothing i could do about it but reupping in a fresh machine.
-
4th or 5th pass? :huh Do you not shoot at them too?
-
Most ppl are not use to the 262 and it tater guns. Those who are can become godlike...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4
-
Most ppl are not use to the 262 and it tater guns. Those who are can become godlike...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2_JnwsyB4
I think of the Mk 108 as more of a grenade launcher than a cannon. Sort of like a derringer howitzer. :)
-
By the way, who's fussing about 262s? :headscratch:
-
I think of the Mk 108 as more of a grenade launcher than a cannon. Sort of like a derringer howitzer. :)
I know a lot of people do, but it really isn't a grenade launcher. With more than twice the muzzle velocity of a typical grenade launcher, its ballistics are closer to that of an M1 Carbine. :)
-
I remember several years ago I killed a flight of three 262's with an F6F-5. :rofl
I was bomb trucking when I ran across them and they decided to dogfight me. Oops.
-
4th or 5th pass? :huh Do you not shoot at them too?
Of course i do! :lol
-
By the way, who's fussing about 262s? :headscratch:
Anyone who manages to get shot down by one and cant handle it I suppose.
-
Anyone who manages to get shot down by one and cant handle it I suppose.
Right on! (Oh, and also those people above who didn't have that reason at all.)
-
I agree with Brooke, the 262 is nothing but a picker. It's main purpose....or should I say "use in the game" is to come zooming through a perfectly good fight/furball and pick a guy or two and then zoom away from danger only to rinse and repeat until low on fuel, or in my case run out of ammo. Yes I said "my case". That means for those slow on the uptake that I fly them now and then and that it what I do with it. Sometimes it's the only thing to fly when the "horde" is on a roll.
I do remember one fight I had with one, It was Banshee and someone else on the deck in TBMs or some other big slow turner and I was turning on the deck in a 262 with them. What a fun fight. I only lasted as long as I did because Banshee said they were laughing so hard they couldn't hit me! :neener:
-
I agree with Brooke, the 262 is nothing but a picker. It's main purpose....or should I say "use in the game" is to come zooming through a perfectly good fight/furball
You're wrong... it's main purpose is the best equalizer... nothing better than bringing one on the deck against a red cloud.. especially with a like minded wingy which I have had the best of..
originally it was Fester's idea... he was the first to promote it... i thought he was crazy till we did it and between the 2 of us could land 40 kills without a rearm.. back then it was much easier because no tooners had seen it before...
still works great... had some of the best fun flying with grizz doing it..
-
What kappa said.. bringing it to a fight already in your favor is stupid (and rare). Most 262 pilots only up them when they are greatly outnumbered.
-
You're wrong... it's main purpose is the best equalizer... nothing better than bringing one on the deck against a red cloud.. especially with a like minded wingy which I have had the best of..
originally it was Fester's idea... he was the first to promote fit... i thought he was crazy till we did it and between the 2 of us could land 40 kills without a rearm.. back then it was much easier because no tooners had seen it before...
still works great... had some of the best fun flying with grizz doing it..
+1 262's produce some of the best sorties I have had as well, though my wingies always end up umm...having a few problems, but other than that, it's fun! I can usually land 8-12 without a rearm if everything goes fine for me. :aok
-
+1 262's produce some of the best sorties I have had as well, though my wingies always end up umm...having a few problems, but other than that, it's fun! I can usually land 8-12 without a rearm if everything goes fine for me. :aok
Or you can ho-ram a noob :neener:
-
Lately the 262 shows up about the time the red guys fall back on plan B, return to the furball at 20k and don't turn with anyone. POTW jokes that the red guys have just admitted defeat to the knights and the 262 signals the approaching 20k red picking hoard. Usual scenario has been a furball below 12k in which the knights have been killing them for the last few waves of red face to face. Then they fall back on picking. And a lot of front quarter angle gunnery from higher perches while the 262 bottom feeds and does it's best to keep the knights from watching the pick.
If the knights begin turning the tide, like clockwork another 262 shows up. A 3 - 262 furball means the knights are doing a good job in a back handed sort of compliment. You wouldn't know it by the screeching about pickers and runners on range though.
-
Lately the 262 shows up about the time the red guys fall back on plan B, return to the furball at 20k and don't turn with anyone. POTW jokes that the red guys have just admitted defeat to the knights and the 262 signals the approaching 20k red picking hoard. Usual scenario has been a furball below 12k in which the knights have been killing them for the last few waves of red face to face. Then they fall back on picking. And a lot of front quarter angle gunnery from higher perches while the 262 bottom feeds and does it's best to keep the knights from watching the pick.
If the knights begin turning the tide, like clockwork another 262 shows up. A 3 - 262 furball means the knights are doing a good job in a back handed sort of compliment. You wouldn't know it by the screeching about pickers and runners on range though.
btw bustr...you owe me a new 190d from a62 last night :rofl :salute
-
Blame my gunsight, it can count both in mph and radii, and the bullets seem to enjoy the recital ................ :)
-
Blame my gunsight, it can count both in mph and radii, and the bullets seem to enjoy the recital ................ :)
I never even knew you were there..I took out your radar..extended from two lalas went back up..just clearing friends 6s..seen a spit low and slow..dove..made one turn and boom..I'm in tower..at least I didn't have to take that long flight back to base
-
You're wrong... it's main purpose is the best equalizer... nothing better than bringing one on the deck against a red cloud.. especially with a like minded wingy which I have had the best of..
originally it was Fester's idea... he was the first to promote it... i thought he was crazy till we did it and between the 2 of us could land 40 kills without a rearm.. back then it was much easier because no tooners had seen it before...
still works great... had some of the best fun flying with grizz doing it..
You used different words, but you said the same thing I said. You blow through a pile of "red" taking out as many as you can, rinse and repeat to the tune of 40 kills between you and your wingman. Mean while the rest of us who were happy to just fight/furball are either part of your "count" or have had the fun sucked out of the fight/furball dodging 262s.
-
If you keep your SA a 262 can never touch you.
-
jetweek in the AVA coming soon, then you ALL can fly 262's free of charge and find out what its like!!
-
You used different words, but you said the same thing I said. You blow through a pile of "red" taking out as many as you can, rinse and repeat to the tune of 40 kills between you and your wingman. Mean while the rest of us who were happy to just fight/furball are either part of your "count" or have had the fun sucked out of the fight/furball dodging 262s.
Furballs in the MA always involve having to dodge something, I don't understand why 262's make it any different. People pick others occupied in furballs all the time, the 262 doesn't do the same job any dirtier.
-
You used different words, but you said the same thing I said. You blow through a pile of "red" taking out as many as you can, rinse and repeat to the tune of 40 kills between you and your wingman. Mean while the rest of us who were happy to just fight/furball are either part of your "count" or have had the fun sucked out of the fight/furball dodging 262s.
I would bet youre not too happy with a 40 red vs 5 green "furball" (gangrape) either - thats the 262 time and thats what Kappa is talking about. Taking a jet to an even fight is lame.
-
Furballs in the MA always involve having to dodge something, I don't understand why 262's make it any different. People pick others occupied in furballs all the time, the 262 doesn't do the same job any dirtier.
It is different because you have to react to a 262 much sooner. Prop planes are not a threat when then are 3.0d out, but a jet will close that distance before you will look again. At these ranges the jet a just a pixel on the screen and you cannot tell who it is targeting. You have to track its trajectory to find it out because by the time it is resolved on the screen and you can SEE his orientation it is too late. You also have to track it even when it is far below you - unlike the prop planes the 262 has enough speed to zoom and kill you from way below. For this reason a 262 is a huge tax on your SA. Dodging it not always so easy, especially if you are flying one of the large fighters (p38, 110, mossie). In these planes you really have to move out of the way because even a tater thrower is not very likely to miss. The 262 carries a very large cone ahead of it in which anyone who tries any kind of stalling maneuvers (while fighting other planes) is setting himself up to get picked.
-
I love upping 262 in the horde and that would be the only time I up it to stop a base capture. I always get pms saying your cheating or some other hateful message which is cool because I know I'm doing something right. Most complain only for the simple fact they cant fly it and land kills period. :joystick:
-
Took a jet out yesterday, to the big knight bish fight. Got my first kill on an LA RTBing. Made multiple passes through the furball and had to keep my SA up even higher than normal due to multiple bish jets in the area. After flying for another half hour, with only that one kill, and running on fumes, I decided to HO a brew, and just avoided the collision. This is proof if players have their SA up, the 262 is very ineffective. P.S I was jumped by a 262 RTBing and had a few friends help me get him off due to me being bingo fuel.
-
I almost got a good shot at a 262 yesterday in a P39D. I wonder how many perks that would have gotten me if I could have pulled around just a little quicker.
Look it's time again for my story about killing Grizz in his 262 in my P-39Q.
So he was Zooming in on my 6, and I broke away, so he zoomed through and extended. I banked back an tried to line him up with the big gun, as I did I held the trigger down and fired about 10 or 15 rounds at him with no success. As his icon read about 800yrds I line one more shot and fired. It hit him 1000yrds and his 262 exploded and diassapeared.
He wrote back told me he was on an attempt to land 100 kills in a single sortie, and was up to 40 when I got him.
If I recall correctly, I got about 25 Perks for that. I think the formula is ENYme/ENY bandit. Perk planes are ENY 1 for that formula and a P-39Q is about ENY 35. then the modifiers for player numbers and base status kicked in to reduce it to ~25. :salute
-
Perk planes are ENY 1 for that formula
No.
-
I would bet youre not too happy with a 40 red vs 5 green "furball" (gangrape) either - thats the 262 time and thats what Kappa is talking about. Taking a jet to an even fight is lame.
exactly...
although if i get ganged 3x in a row and the reds take down our fhs, I will up a jet almost every time. .
-
That's the only time I take a jet out, 8 vs 1, but I see them more often when the sides are even or or a bit lop sided. 2 or 3 vs 1 can be a lot or fun and can push your SA. If jets show up at that point, which I see often, it just pushes it over the edge.
-
Throwing hair driers away :neener:
-
I think it'd be really great if HT would introduce a leash or tether that would be applied to "da emmaknee". That way, the jet would have to orbit within a fairly small hemisphere and I could zoom in and demonstrate my skill on him. Then I could realize "the dream" and do the banana dance on 200.
I'd also like it if they'd shut off the field ack and have a bunch of "da emmaknee" line up on the runway. They think they're so bad-ace - until, haaaw, haaaw, my jet comes down and blows them all to smithereens. Duuuuh. That would be kewl.
Why isn't the game more like that, maybe with each plane having a special hockey move or something?
(http://rocketsportdryer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/HansonBrothers.jpg)
-
Furballers naturally hate everyone and everything not furballing. However, furballers are just one segment of the player base in this game.
-
That's the only time I take a jet out, 8 vs 1, but I see them more often when the sides are even or or a bit lop sided. 2 or 3 vs 1 can be a lot or fun and can push your SA. If jets show up at that point, which I see often, it just pushes it over the edge.
Thats disappointing, but i guess we are talking about the same story: "taking a jet to an even fight is lame".
Furballers naturally hate everyone and everything not furballing. However, furballers are just one segment of the player base in this game.
+1
-
I think this is similar to the complaint about the planes hovering over tank town and the ease in killing tanks. But having said that, what I wonder is what has changed so that there are so many more 262s flying? Seems to me that there are more out and about now than there used to be.
But anyway IMHO; every plane that has less than 1000 production prior to may 1945 should be perked heavily. Start at 100 perks and go up break 1000 perks to fly a 262 if you have to. Get back to the real issue. air combat. No one likes it when you get in a good scrap and here comes a jet to cherry pick. There are a lot of issues with this game and 262s are really minor in comparison. Game play needs to be better all around or this could end up being like War Birds or many of the other aircombat sims that bit the dust.
-
I think this is similar to the complaint about the planes hovering over tank town and the ease in killing tanks. But having said that, what I wonder is what has changed so that there are so many more 262s flying? Seems to me that there are more out and about now than there used to be.
But anyway IMHO; every plane that has less than 1000 production prior to may 1945 should be perked heavily. Start at 100 perks and go up break 1000 perks to fly a 262 if you have to. Get back to the real issue. air combat. No one likes it when you get in a good scrap and here comes a jet to cherry pick. There are a lot of issues with this game and 262s are really minor in comparison. Game play needs to be better all around or this could end up being like War Birds or many of the other aircombat sims that bit the dust.
I'd like stats for the first anecdotal assertion... Lusche - is jet use UP?
As for the rest, I agree completely. I'dl ike to see a player rating system that makes the perk cost go up with rating. I'd also like to see more birds perked. Perk ALL the late war monsters. It'll make for lots more fun in the MA. Besides, the genuinely good sticks will still up perk planes and return 'em to the hangar at sortie's end. The other big plus: more risk for the pilot. This will encourage pilots to use the Hartmann rule of engagin at an advantage more - and engage is stupid/brainless ho tactics less.
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i4KM1PuZZc
Last nights outing vs 262s
-
I'd like stats for the first anecdotal assertion... Lusche - is jet use UP?
As a quick indicator:
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/me262share_zps2e663dc7.jpg)
I haven't checked if the higher kill share after 2009 is a result of a possble higher relative usage of bombers in the MA. Or very high usage by a very few "power users".
-
Its a outrage.
-
Okay, nice plot and thanks... While i'm "getting on" a little, being 50 now, I don't think anyone can call the 2009 increase "recent". Indeed, the more recent event noted by your metric is a ctually a slight decrease.
Anecdotal assertion DISPROVED.
Unfortunately, this means we have the opposite of my preferred order. I generally like sentence to be pronounced BEFORE any verdict is handed in. It's just the autocrat in me.
-
As for the rest, I agree completely. I'dl ike to see a player rating system that makes the perk cost go up with rating. I'd also like to see more birds perked. Perk ALL the late war monsters.
If HTC perks the P-51D, they WILL lose new subscribers when 90% of them click on it for their first sortie and see "you don't have enough perk points for that model". Thus the P-51D and the other planes roughly in its effectiveness class have to remain unperked.
-
All you gotta do is HO them.
The last Me262 I HO'd in my P38 brought a fury of complaints about my flying style.
-
[I did anything at all in Aces High] and it brought a fury of complaints about my flying style.
Fixed! :aok
-
The last Me262 I HO'd in my P38 brought a fury of complaints about my flying style.
Awesome! I love these 200/pm complaints.
-
262's deserve all the hate they receive imo, as do players that drive them (or any perk plane for that matter). Players getting spamed with flames while driving a 262 is understandableas flying one is a chicken-#$%^ move. The plane really should be removed completey from MA, dusted off only for historic scenario's.
Although the presence of the plane in the MA is absurd at best, the terribly flawed perk system that controls the usage of the plane makes things worse. Perks are a seal clubbing tool that allow veteran players to maintain an edge. Possibly an ok tool for retaining veteran players as it allows them to "buy" an advantage that is not available to all, at no real cost. Has little/no value for overall gameplay, or to encourage new blood to stay in the game, which really should be the primary goals of the system imo.
But yeah, nuking the 262 from the MA would be a wise move.
-
Bah, to get enough perk points for one 262 run, a player has to to have about 10 runs where they average 20 perk points per. Not an easy thing to do. Earn the perks and fly the 262 anyway you like, don't listen to the whiners and nitpickers.
-
No.
thanks for letting us know what the point value is then.
Oh wait...you didn't.
-
thanks for letting us know what the point value is then.
Oh wait...you didn't.
You stated the correct formula yourself. I just pointed out that perk planes don't have their ENY modiefied at all. They are not 1. ENY is ENY.
-
262's deserve all the hate they receive imo, as do players that drive them (or any perk plane for that matter). Players getting spamed with flames while driving a 262 is understandableas flying one is a chicken-#$%^ move. The plane really should be removed completey from MA, dusted off only for historic scenario's.
Although the presence of the plane in the MA is absurd at best, the terribly flawed perk system that controls the usage of the plane makes things worse. Perks are a seal clubbing tool that allow veteran players to maintain an edge. Possibly an ok tool for retaining veteran players as it allows them to "buy" an advantage that is not available to all, at no real cost. Has little/no value for overall gameplay, or to encourage new blood to stay in the game, which really should be the primary goals of the system imo.
But yeah, nuking the 262 from the MA would be a wise move.
I respectfully disagree.
I see perk planes as simply planes that have an above-average edge that have a price on them. Some have argued in the past that the ki-43 should be perked. While you do have arguably the best manuverability in that plane, you have only 2 guns that you must be precise with, and even a minor hit to most planes is fatal to the ki-43. Whereas the 262 has the best firepower of any fighter in the game, matched with extreme high speed, however doesn't take damage well. However, it is balanced because of the huge edge in aforementioned speed/firepower.
Right now, perks are used as a currency to reward players who contribute to the game. I.E. bomb a hangar, GV or shoot down another plane. You don't get perks by simply flying around looking at the ground. I can't see anything that would be 'better'. If you get rid of perk planes entirely, then the perks have to be used somewhere else, assuming they would be kept. Spend 50 perks and everyone gets a boost? But that has the same 'veterans seal clubbing advantage', but now on a whole different scale.
While I agree, veterans are clubbing seals quite well, and even more-so with perk planes (namely the 262 and 163). I don't see where that is a reason to remove it from the game. All planes have a certain level of 'skill' or challenge to fly them, no matter what plane. Some say certain planes don't, that just tells me the person who comments like that has surpassed the requirements to fly that plane, making it less of a challenge. There are some planes I won't fly, for I don't see the need to. Like the tempest, although the flight model is different, I could just take a Niki.
Perks can be used for 'war purposes' like b29s to the strats. But I would say a fair portion of the perks are just used for goofing around, like 262s de-acking fields or strafing cvs or B29 'stukas'. I would however, like to see other ways that perks could be spent or used, that would either benefit other players in someway (not a boost of damage or unrealistic stuff). Instead of it just being flying planes or driving tanks, perhaps we could have some goofy things that could be used in-game, that don't necessarily give an edge, but more of a laugh.
:salute
-
If we compare Me 262 kills to it's deaths multiplied with the perk price, each kill does cost the Me 262 pilot's 30 perks (gross cost). Practically it's probably significantly higher due to the unknown amount of augered or discoed 262s which do not show up in the stats.
-
I respectfully disagree.
I see perk planes as simply planes that have an above-average edge that have a price on them. Some have argued in the past that the ki-43 should be perked. While you do have arguably the best manuverability in that plane, you have only 2 guns that you must be precise with, and even a minor hit to most planes is fatal to the ki-43. Whereas the 262 has the best firepower of any fighter in the game, matched with extreme high speed, however doesn't take damage well. However, it is balanced because of the huge edge in aforementioned speed/firepower.
Right now, perks are used as a currency to reward players who contribute to the game. I.E. bomb a hangar, GV or shoot down another plane. You don't get perks by simply flying around looking at the ground. I can't see anything that would be 'better'. If you get rid of perk planes entirely, then the perks have to be used somewhere else, assuming they would be kept. Spend 50 perks and everyone gets a boost? But that has the same 'veterans seal clubbing advantage', but now on a whole different scale.
While I agree, veterans are clubbing seals quite well, and even more-so with perk planes (namely the 262 and 163). I don't see where that is a reason to remove it from the game. All planes have a certain level of 'skill' or challenge to fly them, no matter what plane. Some say certain planes don't, that just tells me the person who comments like that has surpassed the requirements to fly that plane, making it less of a challenge. There are some planes I won't fly, for I don't see the need to. Like the tempest, although the flight model is different, I could just take a Niki.
Perks can be used for 'war purposes' like b29s to the strats. But I would say a fair portion of the perks are just used for goofing around, like 262s de-acking fields or strafing cvs or B29 'stukas'. I would however, like to see other ways that perks could be spent or used, that would either benefit other players in someway (not a boost of damage or unrealistic stuff). Instead of it just being flying planes or driving tanks, perhaps we could have some goofy things that could be used in-game, that don't necessarily give an edge, but more of a laugh.
:salute
If a town is white flag and ur in the tower corresponding with the town you could I invest in the town to help it back up. Say 30 perks per 5 mins up to say 5 mins remaining. Meaning you could not pay to up a town completely but for 18p perks ( fresh down tow ) you can invest to green flag it.
You could apply the same principal to the strats but obviously at 30 perks for 5 mins it could get expensive especially if say the town city or strat is down hard ex 90 mins plus. It can ve extended into field I frastructury as well have an option on any field ur at to invest in renewing it persay.
My 2 cents
-
If a town is white flag and ur in the tower corresponding with the town you could I invest in the town to help it back up. Say 30 perks per 5 mins up to say 5 mins remaining. Meaning you could not pay to up a town completely but for 18p perks ( fresh down tow ) you can invest to green flag it.
You could apply the same principal to the strats but obviously at 30 perks for 5 mins it could get expensive especially if say the town city or strat is down hard ex 90 mins plus. It can ve extended into field I frastructury as well have an option on any field ur at to invest in renewing it persay.
My 2 cents
Hmm, interesting idea, but I can see how it would be abused. Even with a notorious bishop mission of 40+, I can see the town popping back up just as troops fall, just for the veterans of the other side to be jerks.
Not attacking you, just seeing a possible loophole.
-
262's deserve all the hate they receive imo, as do players that drive them (or any perk plane for that matter). Players getting spamed with flames while driving a 262 is understandableas flying one is a chicken-#$%^ move. The plane really should be removed completey from MA, dusted off only for historic scenario's.
Although the presence of the plane in the MA is absurd at best, the terribly flawed perk system that controls the usage of the plane makes things worse. Perks are a seal clubbing tool that allow veteran players to maintain an edge. Possibly an ok tool for retaining veteran players as it allows them to "buy" an advantage that is not available to all, at no real cost. Has little/no value for overall gameplay, or to encourage new blood to stay in the game, which really should be the primary goals of the system imo.
But yeah, nuking the 262 from the MA would be a wise move.
pfft!
The 262 is sometimes my only option when faced with Bish mini hordes off hours. If they have a GV spawn then the base is toast anyway, but I often find myself facing 3 different sets of Bombers, a handful of jabo pilots for cover and fighters. Against just myself or maybe one other, Khyron deserves a worthy mention as of late.
There is no way a prop plane can get to an effective speed/ altitude and then have enough ammo to put a big dent in the enemies attack. Whilst these guys would be more than happy to roll base after base with no opposition whatsoever the 262 is the only plane that can at least attempt to equalise the numbers disparity.
It is for these very reasons that a localised ENY limit should be introduced but that will then give them even more to complain about rather than that pesky 262 experten...
-
None taken was just an idea, what are the odds something like that would happen. It would be nice to have something to spend them on lol I have a few thousand and don't really spend them. if I'm luckey ill get a single kill in a 262 and most likely take damage, but its fun to fly into the horde that killed you X number of times to see them scatter at the sight of a 262 lol
-
It would be nice to have something to spend them on lol I have a few thousand and don't really spend them.
For many of us perks are almost meaningless. If you are regularly flying 20+ ENY planes and do not have a fascination with 262, Tempest, or F4U-4/C, there is nothing to spend fighter perks on and they just keep piling up. Bomber perks are even worse because they are so easy to earn. The only perk plane I often fly is the Mossie XVI. I worked to collect the first 30 perks to get into the first one and I've never needed bomber perks again - because I have not lost those 30 perk points yet.
One flaw with the system is that perked rides cost no perks, as long as you land them. Heck, even a ditch will save half of your perks as I just learned. Unless I crash/lose every 262 I roll, I can fly 262s exclusively for several tours. I have so many perks and lose them so slowly that when I roll a 262 I have absolutely no regards as to its perk cost - frankly, I have no idea how much they cost before multiplies. Around 200 would be my guess, but even if they cost 1000 perks I would still roll one on a whim. Some % of the perks should be lost regardless of how the sortie ends - i.e. some of the perk cost is deposit, the other part pre-paid.
The better solution is the perked ordnance idea that has been circling around for years. If I had use to my perks they would not pile up as high and then I'll have to check what is the perk cost of a 262.
Another possibility is to give me a perked Mossie Mk.XVIII and Mk.30 ... :pray
-
I want to cash in my Perks for $$$ :D
-
For many of us perks are almost meaningless. If you are regularly flying 20+ ENY planes and do not have a fascination with 262, Tempest, or F4U-4/C, there is nothing to spend fighter perks on and they just keep piling up. Bomber perks are even worse because they are so easy to earn. The only perk plane I often fly is the Mossie XVI. I worked to collect the first 30 perks to get into the first one and I've never needed bomber perks again - because I have not lost those 30 perk points yet.
But that's the interesting thing: Only those not really interested in upping perk fighters do have "tens of thousands" perks on the bank. Yes, they could now fly jets almost ad nauseum... but they generally don't. That's why they do have so many perks to begin with.
On the other hand, players like me flying perk planes a lot do constantly have to 'work' on getting enough perks
Concerning the Mossie XVI - that plane is indeed an anomaly. Since the changed OBJ ratings, it's the only perk plane that I know that can easily sustain it's perk price all on it's own in standard operations.
-
Me 262s are like rattle snakes.... If you see 'em soon enough, they're not a problem. If ya hear 'em before ya see 'em.... Now, ya got a problem.
-
But that's the interesting thing: Only those not really interested in upping perk fighters do have "tens of thousands" perks on the bank. Yes, they could now fly jets almost ad nauseum... but they generally don't. That's why they do have so many perks to begin with.
On the other hand, players like me flying perk planes a lot do constantly have to 'work' on getting enough perks
I'm not really interested in upping perkie birds and also do not have tens of thousands of perks banked.
-
You're wrong... it's main purpose is the best equalizer... nothing better than bringing one on the deck against a red cloud.. especially with a like minded wingy which I have had the best of..
originally it was Fester's idea... he was the first to promote it... i thought he was crazy till we did it and between the 2 of us could land 40 kills without a rearm.. back then it was much easier because no tooners had seen it before...
still works great... had some of the best fun flying with grizz doing it..
:rofl
I guess you and yer boys and girls were "equalizing" last night. The dar bar for Knits was easily twice that of the Bish at A8 and we see "kappa the equalizer" come screaming in to pick guys engaged in the furball. Later we see four 262..one flown by another of the mighty ACM kings....and on it went for the rest of the evening as the Bish fought at a significant numerical disadvantage.
Eventually "the equalizer" managed to kill me while I was flying a Dora back from a dogfight.....I just laughed because I know he was hunting for another Dora pilot (who shall remain nameless) who had killed him several times prior to his deciding to up the "great equalizer". Great shot by the way....
Keep beating that chest playing Robin Hood, big guy....we all know why those 262s get rolled. Its OK...we all get a laugh out of too! :rofl
-
^There's some BBS fussing about 262's.
It no longer remains in game!
-
:rofl
I guess you and yer boys and girls were "equalizing" last night. The dar bar for Knits was easily twice that of the Bish at A8 and we see "kappa the equalizer" come screaming in to pick guys engaged in the furball. Later we see four 262..one flown by another of the mighty ACM kings....and on it went for the rest of the evening as the Bish fought at a significant numerical disadvantage.
Eventually "the equalizer" managed to kill me while I was flying a Dora back from a dogfight.....I just laughed because I know he was hunting for another Dora pilot (who shall remain nameless) who had killed him several times prior to his deciding to up the "great equalizer". Great shot by the way....
Keep beating that chest playing Robin Hood, big guy....we all know why those 262s get rolled. Its OK...we all get a laugh out of too! :rofl
"Leet" pilots always have to fly leet planes, holding hands with other "leet" pilots in their leet planes. Otherwise, they can't rack up dozens of kills of average Joes and gasp - even possibly get shot down! :uhoh
-
I can also attest that the Bishops were at times very out-numbered and simultaneously facing jets last night. Oh well, you have the perks and want to fly a deuce, go right ahead I say. I do not demand that the enemy fight me perfectly fairly all the time ;) so it's all good man. Also Kappa got out of a jet and into a Spitfire at least once, my La and I had a memorable encounter with him. :salute
:rofl
I guess you and yer boys and girls were "equalizing" last night. The dar bar for Knits was easily twice that of the Bish at A8 and we see "kappa the equalizer" come screaming in to pick guys engaged in the furball. Later we see four 262..one flown by another of the mighty ACM kings....and on it went for the rest of the evening as the Bish fought at a significant numerical disadvantage.
Eventually "the equalizer" managed to kill me while I was flying a Dora back from a dogfight.....I just laughed because I know he was hunting for another Dora pilot (who shall remain nameless) who had killed him several times prior to his deciding to up the "great equalizer". Great shot by the way....
Keep beating that chest playing Robin Hood, big guy....we all know why those 262s get rolled. Its OK...we all get a laugh out of too! :rofl
-
Bishops have spent the most part of 6 years out numbering their opposition. Oh how they cry about it should it happen to them once in a blue moon. :rolleyes:
-
Bishops have spent the most part of 6 years out numbering their opposition. Oh how they cry about it should it happen to them once in a blue moon. :rolleyes:
That depends what time of day you're talking about. I was a Knight from 2008-2010 and the Bish and Rooks steamrolled us like crazy during US prime time. There was a change in population and ever since then, the Bish are almost always outnumbered during US prime time. The Bish do have numerical superiority in the morning/afternoon hours and steamroll the Knights and Rooks accordingly.
In other words, every country is full of ganging hordes. :bolt:
-
:rofl
I guess you and yer boys and girls were "equalizing" last night. The dar bar for Knits was easily twice that of the Bish at A8 and we see "kappa the equalizer" come screaming in to pick guys engaged in the furball. Later we see four 262..one flown by another of the mighty ACM kings....and on it went for the rest of the evening as the Bish fought at a significant numerical disadvantage.
Eventually "the equalizer" managed to kill me while I was flying a Dora back from a dogfight.....I just laughed because I know he was hunting for another Dora pilot (who shall remain nameless) who had killed him several times prior to his deciding to up the "great equalizer". Great shot by the way....
Keep beating that chest playing Robin Hood, big guy....we all know why those 262s get rolled. Its OK...we all get a laugh out of too! :rofl
Hmmm... I remember logging on last night and seeing 4 bish 262's flying over the same Knight base that you are talking about.
Funny how we didn't whine about it.. (on here and on 200) :) That was the whole reason that we flew them in the first place, to fight them...imagine that... :headscratch:
After that, it was just a squad having some fun on a Saturday night. I had quite a few drinks so I'm sure mine wasn't too dangerous, more of a danger to myself...lol
Is that kind of fun not allowed? I didn't get that memo.. :lol
*If you guys quit changing your names so often you would have enough perkies to fly one too. :D
-
*If you guys quit changing your names so often you would have enough perkies to fly one too. :D
Well I started with "Zornhau", but then one of my squaddies said something like "Dude, you always just disappear off the game without saying a word. Like freaking Batman." so you understand I just HAD to change my callsign. :D I think I'll keep this one, the possibilities for hilarity are just too numerous and people on range pronounce it easily.
I set sail with the Captain while playing last night myself. :) The XVI instead of the pink IX was a surprise, sneaky sneaky :salute
-
Hmmm... I remember logging on last night and seeing 4 bish 262's flying over the same Knight base that you are talking about.
Funny how we didn't whine about it.. (on here and on 200) :) That was the whole reason that we flew them in the first place, to fight them...imagine that... :headscratch:
After that, it was just a squad having some fun on a Saturday night. I had quite a few drinks so I'm sure mine wasn't too dangerous, more of a danger to myself...lol
Is that kind of fun not allowed? I didn't get that memo.. :lol
*If you guys quit changing your names so often you would have enough perkies to fly one too. :D
Ah yes, I must have not seen the 262s we upped first.... How strange. I upped a Temp when the horde got a bit large as I usually do. I did finally up a 262 late in the evening but landed it after seeing we no longer needed it. As for my post being a whine... Hardly. Just simply pointing out the usual hypocrisy by the usual suspects who drone on.... As usual.
Keep pumping those pom-poms, Pep! Too bad those 262s don't come in pink!
-
lol Fulcrum.. your lack of battlefield clarity is only eclipsed by your wonderful whines.. post me another!
-
Hypocrisy yes, that's the word I might have been looking for..especially for the pom pom's comment...lol
I did not say it was you that upped the 262's, I said they were there, that is all.
I guess I shouldn't have commented on the whining but I saw it on 200...I had forgotten to squelch when I entered the arena,
and here again today.
Really, I could care less what you fly and if you would like to cry about what others fly I could care less about that too.
I was just saying why we did it in the first place.
Have a good day. :)
-
The sky is falling if you have to explain yourself to Fulcrum.
:uhoh
-
No need to explain yourselves to me..... And by all means have fun! I've ALWAYS defended everyone's right to fly what they want the way they want and I always will. What I dislike intensely is the posturing and lame attempts to justify it as an attempt to "fight the bish hordes of death". But by all means... :lol
-
What used to be in your sig? We don't give a damn?... likewise.
Cya.. :salute
-
What used to be in your sig? We don't give a damn?... likewise.
Cya.. :salute
Toothed!
-
I'm glad you think i'm Great though Fulcrum.. I'm touched.. really! But NO!!! I will not get in your van.. Don't care what you have written on it..
-
what ya do not like the Van tags that Say Kappa was here?????
-
what ya do not like the Van tags that Say Kappa was here?????
It didn't, by chance, say "Free KANDY" in big bold letters, did it?
-
Went de acking with a 262 last night.
It worked for about 3 minutes.
Then I got set on fire.
And then I augered.
-
Went de acking with a 262 last night.
It worked for about 3 minutes.
Then I got set on fire.
And then I augered.
I see little problem with any of this.
-
All those voices on Vox with their chorus of "262 coming in" are shining examples of why exotic perk planes like it bring so much to the game. Its why the Meteor should be in, the A26, maybe even standards should be loosened to include development airframes. Or my dream of a 1946 arena. Its why I droned for B29s for years even tho I still havnt flown one yet.
The 262 has pizzaz and mystique. Excitement and heart thump for $16 a month.
"First you get the Jet ; Then you get the girl".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/montnana_zps1e7b8350.jpg)
-
I'm glad you think i'm Great though Fulcrum.. I'm touched.. really! But NO!!! I will not get in your van.. Don't care what you have written on it..
Ahhh....the personal attack. Way to address the issue, kappy.
-
All those voices on Vox with their chorus of "262 coming in" are shining examples of why exotic perk planes like it bring so much to the game. Its why the Meteor should be in, the A26, maybe even standards should be loosened to include development airframes. Or my dream of a 1946 arena. Its why I droned for B29s for years even tho I still havnt flown one yet.
The 262 has pizzaz and mystique. Excitement and heart thump for $16 a month.
"First you get the Jet ; Then you get the girl".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/montnana_zps1e7b8350.jpg)
Excellent post! :salute
-
For the love of dog, the 262 costs a ton of perks and always carries with it a fairly high chance one will run it into terrain. There is no reason to complain about it.
-
Ahhh....the personal attack. Way to address the issue, kappy.
What issue? I have no issue.. I killed 3 jets the night you describe..
Attack? What attack? I'm not attacking you.. I'm just telling you I don't want your free candy and keep your van away!
-
Ok man..whatevah...I know I hit the nail on the head when the Candy Van comments come out. :rofl
-
All those voices on Vox with their chorus of "262 coming in" are shining examples of why exotic perk planes like it bring so much to the game. Its why the Meteor should be in, the A26, maybe even standards should be loosened to include development airframes. Or my dream of a 1946 arena. Its why I droned for B29s for years even tho I still havnt flown one yet.
The 262 has pizzaz and mystique. Excitement and heart thump for $16 a month.
"First you get the Jet ; Then you get the girl".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/montnana_zps1e7b8350.jpg)
Then you pump the girl... for information, of course.
-
:rofl
I guess you and yer boys and girls were "equalizing" last night. The dar bar for Knits was easily twice that of the Bish at A8 and we see "kappa the equalizer" come screaming in to pick guys engaged in the furball. Later we see four 262..one flown by another of the mighty ACM kings....and on it went for the rest of the evening as the Bish fought at a significant numerical disadvantage.
Eventually "the equalizer" managed to kill me while I was flying a Dora back from a dogfight.....I just laughed because I know he was hunting for another Dora pilot (who shall remain nameless) who had killed him several times prior to his deciding to up the "great equalizer". Great shot by the way....
Keep beating that chest playing Robin Hood, big guy....we all know why those 262s get rolled. Its OK...we all get a laugh out of too! :rofl
ok, ill bite... why do the jets get rolled?
your nameless guy that killed me got a kill on me once I believe. .. he got a very lucky ho shot on me in his dora as he streaked by and later on ghi shot me down in a 38 as your nameless guy's dora was about to die.. but ghi was not awarded the kill... unlucky for him...
this was followed by me being ganged several times at takeoff... when this happens repeatedly, I up a jet..
so, if you really have something to say/prove lets hear it.
-
this was followed by me being ganged several times at takeoff... when this happens repeatedly, I up a jet..
so, if you really have something to say/prove lets hear it.
Okay. If getting blasted every time you take off pisses you off perhaps you shouldn't take off at a capped field. Or take off in a squirrely Brewster and have some fun.
-
Okay. If getting blasted every time you take off pisses you off perhaps you shouldn't take off at a capped field. Or take off in a squirrely Brewster and have some fun.
You're right! I think I should up a base abit further back in a jet.. Good advice!