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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bozon on June 22, 2014, 02:44:49 AM
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I wanted to thank ET37 for the SBD strike mission las t night on the bish V-base. We totally failed, but such odd ball missions are rare event and always great fun. I almost never join pickup missions, especially when I have squadmates online, but as soon as I saw this one posted I RTBed my Jug to join!
<S> :salute
Also thanks to Oysters in his P51D that covered my escape with my SBD against a Yak3 and Ta152 - "escape" at full throttle and 200 mph... :)
Fun things happen in the MA when we make them happen.
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ET, you were in the wrong arena - your SBD was waiting for you in SEAII! Did you lose your way? :lol :bolt:
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Knights do that knind of thing when allowed... :lol
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Knights do that knind of thing when allowed... :lol
You're allowed to fly an SBD whenever you want, unless you have sworn allegiance to your nit overlord.
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I wish there were more "missions" run. While most of ET's missions turn into hordes it is still better to have them than none at all. I still think it's up the mission leader to control the size of the mission, mission generate combat and that is what most of us are looking for. :aok
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ET, you were in the wrong arena - your SBD was waiting for you in SEAII! Did you lose your way? :lol :bolt:
I was thinking the same thing. As mission oriented as he is I'm surprised he's not playing in scenarios.
I wish there were more "missions" run. While most of ET's missions turn into hordes it is still better to have them than none at all. I still think it's up the mission leader to control the size of the mission, mission generate combat and that is what most of us are looking for. :aok
And here's another one. For all the talk about complex mission planning and the way things used to be scenario's are exectly the answer.
:salute to everyone who's participated in the Pacific war scenario. Looking forward to the last frame but also dreading the lull until the next scenario.
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I was thinking the same thing. As mission oriented as he is I'm surprised he's not playing in scenarios.
And here's another one. For all the talk about complex mission planning and the way things used to be scenario's are exectly the answer.
:salute to everyone who's participated in the Pacific war scenario. Looking forward to the last frame but also dreading the lull until the next scenario.
I'm sorry my schedule doesn't lend itself to signing up for scenarios. I did run in one long ago. It was long boring and filled with very little action. Pick up missions in the could happen often and are easy to join when I happen to be on.
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As much as I was looking forward to this scenario family obligations have gotten in the way week after week.
I have to prioritize but I do think scenarios are the game at its best.
Besides that I'd love to see more LWA instant missions use different aircraft then the standard ones and even better use Historically correct ones.
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I'm sorry my schedule doesn't lend itself to signing up for scenarios. I did run in one long ago. It was long boring and filled with very little action. Pick up missions in the could happen often and are easy to join when I happen to be on.
I understand where you're coming from, but the three frames of PacWar have been anything but boring. I have to de-stress by flying in the MA for awhile. It's much quieter.
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I'm sorry my schedule doesn't lend itself to signing up for scenarios.
There's nothing stopping you from walking on if your availabe.
I did run in one long ago. It was long boring and filled with very little action.
Ahh... so you're looking for instant gratification just like the "players these days" that you often go on and on about.
Pick up missions in the could happen often and are easy to join when I happen to be on.
So you'd rather join a mission that will likely become a hoard than to start your own "complex" mission like the ones you espouse?
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Ahh... so you're looking for instant gratification just like the "players these days" that you often go on and on about.
:D
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In a way its too bad that level bombing are so accurate in AH. Dropping a hangar from 20k is no problem but in reality one should be glad if the bombs fall at the field at all. This makes the dive bombers pretty much unnessesary. it would be more fun if the dive bombers like SBD where the plane of choise when u wanted to drop hangars.
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In a way its too bad that level bombing are so accurate in AH. Dropping a hangar from 20k is no problem but in reality one should be glad if the bombs fall at the field at all. This makes the dive bombers pretty much unnessesary. it would be more fun if the dive bombers like SBD where the plane of choise when u wanted to drop hangars.
The problem is that it wouldn't be the SBD or Ju-87G which would be chosen for this, but almost esclusively P-38s, P-47s and so on.
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True. But its a shame anyway. Dive bombing (the real vertical one) is a forgotten art in this game.
Edit: planting an AP-bomb in a cruiser or CV w a SBD is really fun, it just takes forever to reach the 15k u need to pull it of w/o get shot down by the ack.
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There's nothing stopping you from walking on if your availabe.
And again, I'm a busy guy, I got almost a whole hour to myself today.
Ahh... so you're looking for instant gratification just like the "players these days" that you often go on and on about.
Where did I ever say anything against players wanting instant gratification? Some players have very little time to jump into a game run a few flights and then they have other things to do. I'm lucky and get to block out some time here and there to put in a few hours. Joining a scenario is a commitment I can't tie myself down to. I suppose I could walk on now and then but I don't think it would be the same.
So you'd rather join a mission that will likely become a hoard than to start your own "complex" mission like the ones you espouse?
I join hoping that is DOESN'T become a horde. I ran missions for years both here and in AW. I would up a buff and circle at a high alt in the general area we were running ops and co-ordinate everything from there. Rarely did I fight, nor did I even drop bombs. I was busy running the mission. These days I prefer to fly and fight in the mission instead of running them. So yes I JOIN missions instead of run them.
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I wish there were more "missions" run. While most of ET's missions turn into hordes it is still better to have them than none at all. I still think it's up the mission leader to control the size of the mission, mission generate combat and that is what most of us are looking for. :aok
Hardly a horde. 8 SBDs and 3 P51D escorts as far as I recall. It was not enough to take down all 3 VH because too many bombs missed. Quite sad because a single lanc formation from 20k would have done the job better without missing a bomb, except it would be lame. Remember that if bombers are selected for the mission, each player gets 3, so a mission with just 3 bomber players is already 9 planes - more than our SBDs.
Then we deacked with the two forward 0.5s, which took nearly half my ammo. A single T34 and a single wirb were just sitting there and there was nothing we could do, but we strafed them anyway. A Spit16 showed up and started to shoot down the SBDs, until it foolishly passed close enough for me to kill it - if it just kept its distance there was nothing I could do about him as well. Just goes to show that 8 SBDs are still not a horde. Perhaps a small cloud of flies.
Out of bullets and seeing no friendlies except one of the P51 escorts I stared to crawl home at a snail pace. Attacked by the Yak3 and Ta152 I was still steaming ahead at 200 mph, except that now I had to weave and twist to keep avoiding them, making the way infinitely long. Unfortunately no ammo to shoot back. The Yak gave me a PW and now I was blacking out between dodges. Oysters in the P51 escort came to assist and kept me in the threats picture while I was blacked out. This went on for a few minutes until more friendlies arrived and I was able to straighten out and head for home. Landed my blood smeared SBD (only one to return) with 1 kill and only 565lbs of damage in the "attaboy" system message... Was still worth 10.5 bomber perks :)
This is what I love about the SBD - just making it back to land is already a feat. If you are going with the "horde" (i.e. mission), at least do it in a cool plane.
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I join ET's missions as they give context and variety to a fight. Whether its escorting heavy bombers, flying heavy bombers or flying heavy fighters, in any case there is a goal, a reason to be in the air. While I try my best to help with the base capture or strat raid the fun is more in the organized effort rather than the outcome. Just flying around the MA looking for a dogfight without context is often boring and fruitless. A mission just about guarantees a fight with some variety in plane categories and fighting styles which is so much more interesting for me than a furball without purpose. With missions there is a sense of "you're trying to stop us from doing x" or vice versa as I also enjoy attacking missions.
Well done, ET and the other squads who run pickup missions. We need more of them as they create a reason for a fight.
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In a way its too bad that level bombing are so accurate in AH. Dropping a hangar from 20k is no problem but in reality one should be glad if the bombs fall at the field at all. This makes the dive bombers pretty much unnessesary. it would be more fun if the dive bombers like SBD where the plane of choise when u wanted to drop hangars.
:airplane: Until the 8th AF started using H2X radar systems, if a bomb landed with in 2 miles of target, it was graded a hit!
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True. But its a shame anyway. Dive bombing (the real vertical one) is a forgotten art in this game.
Edit: planting an AP-bomb in a cruiser or CV w a SBD is really fun, it just takes forever to reach the 15k u need to pull it of w/o get shot down by the ack.
:airplane: Your point is well taken! I have always felt, since joining this game, than "auto-ack" should not be a part of the game. If a country wants to defend its CV and etc, let them man the guns! There wasn't any in WW2 and I think it hurts the game we play here by having it in the game.
That is why the JU87/SBD type of aircraft don't have much of a chance on flying missions. There is a numer of aircraft which sit in the hangar all the time, which would be used more, if guys felt like they had a chance of surving a mission in one of those things. But with auto-ack and slow speeds, well you know they rest of that story!
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I love these type of actions.
Like our real flying veteran said on squad channel: " I'd be happy to hit within a sector" :D
ET, we don't even have guys to man one plane per field, when the big maps are in use, and with the HQ shut down it would be a walk in the park to win a map with numerical superiority within a few hours.
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ET's mission are always great fun because he is about team work. His leadership and the cool real world "extras" that he adds make it a fun immersion experience. :aok
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