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Title: inactive game play
Post by: lerxst on July 02, 2014, 11:30:39 AM
what i mean by this is,guys sitting just inside the radar zone to get a town to flash then  hide inside a barn,not playing for hours,now unless you waste all sorts of time either driving around every spawn and looking inside every barn to find the person,they may have gone to bed for the night ,gone out to dinner,whatever its crap i think.my feeling is that if you log in to "PLAY THE GAME" then you should be contributing to your sides advancement of territory,or contributing to taking a map.might there be some sort of penalty for being logged in just hiding for hours for the sake of making a base flash? A wee bit frustrated thank you for hearing me out!! :salute
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: ink on July 02, 2014, 11:34:48 AM
what i mean by this is,guys sitting just inside the radar zone to get a town to flash then  hide inside a barn,not playing for hours,now unless you waste all sorts of time either driving around every spawn and looking inside every barn to find the person,they may have gone to bed for the night ,gone out to dinner,whatever its crap i think.my feeling is that if you log in to "PLAY THE GAME" then you should be contributing to your sides advancement of territory,or contributing to taking a map.might there be some sort of penalty for being logged in just hiding for hours for the sake of making a base flash? A wee bit frustrated thank you for hearing me out!! :salute

what about the guys who dont give a crap about "territory" the "map" or the "war"

not that I agree with what you say some are doing...

but the MA is not just about the "war"

as a matter of fact the "war" was added to promote COMBAT...

so yes someone doing that is lame...but "fixing" it may be impossible
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Zoney on July 02, 2014, 12:15:41 PM
-1

What difference does it make if the guy is hiding AFK or hiding while sitting in front of his monitor watching you run around looking for him?  If he is the only thing around that is making the base flash, and he's not a threat because he's not doing anything why don't you just ignore him and go to a different base?

Get out of the GV's and fly.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Lusche on July 02, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
If he is the only thing around that is making the base flash, and he's not a threat because he's not doing anything

He is a threat. After 2 hours of a constant flashing base, there suddenly comes in a GV raid or NOE, and nobody will notice and be able to defend in time.

However, I don't see any practical solution for this other than players going out and find him... not that difficult most of the time. ;)
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Skyyr on July 02, 2014, 02:01:26 PM
He is a threat. After 2 hours of a constant flashing base, there suddenly comes in a GV raid or NOE, and nobody will notice and be able to defend in time.

However, I don't see any practical solution for this other than players going out and find him... not that difficult most of the time. ;)

You could enable auto-logout after, saying 30-60 minutes of inactivity (no control inputs whatsoever). This is common in other MMO's.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Lusche on July 02, 2014, 02:50:33 PM
You could enable auto-logout after, saying 30-60 minutes of inactivity (no control inputs whatsoever). This is common in other MMO's.

So easy to get around that.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: pallero on July 02, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
How about if someone is in the barn, and don't shoot, move and engine  is off, the town or base stop flashing after for example 15 mins?
And if you want to keep flashing, you have to start your engine or shoot.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: lunatic1 on July 02, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
You could enable auto-logout after, saying 30-60 minutes of inactivity (no control inputs whatsoever). This is common in other MMO's.

if this person is sitting there just to make the base flash--that means they are on the field of play..and can't be and shouldn't be logged off.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: xPoisonx on July 08, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
I once went afk in a barn at an enemy base for an hour, when I came back there were 5 red bomb****s looking for me.
Need to do it more often, anything to piss off the bomb tards  :banana:
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: kvuo75 on July 08, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
He is a threat. After 2 hours of a constant flashing base, there suddenly comes in a GV raid or NOE, and nobody will notice and be able to defend in time.

However, I don't see any practical solution for this other than players going out and find him... not that difficult most of the time. ;)

the fact that his icon will be 800 kinda makes it harder to find him..

how bout his icon goes back to 3k like olden days, after sitting still for x time.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Scca on July 11, 2014, 11:37:47 AM
the fact that his icon will be 800 kinda makes it harder to find him..

how bout his icon goes back to 3k like olden days, after sitting still for x time.

up a storch...
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Tinkles on July 11, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
the fact that his icon will be 800 kinda makes it harder to find him..

how bout his icon goes back to 3k like olden days, after sitting still for x time.


I would think the opposite to be true. The more you stay at one spot, the harder it would be to find you. Assuming you hid your vehicle well enough.

I think if the engine is turned on the icon range should go to 1.5k, if the engine is off the icon range goes to 800-1000 yards, but your turret turns 30%-50% slower. I understand some tanks couldn't turn/turned slower with their engines off.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: kvuo75 on July 12, 2014, 08:41:07 AM
I would think the opposite to be true. The more you stay at one spot, the harder it would be to find you. Assuming you hid your vehicle well enough.

I think if the engine is turned on the icon range should go to 1.5k, if the engine is off the icon range goes to 800-1000 yards, but your turret turns 30%-50% slower. I understand some tanks couldn't turn/turned slower with their engines off.

yeah but the op is a complaint about some hard to find gv sitting somewhere for hours just making the base flash. it was just an idea to help find it.. in all honesty i couldn't care less to begin with.  flash away!

Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 12, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
It's a part of the game. It is called a disruption of resources. If you are busy hunting for a lone sapper then you are not available to hit my base, shoot down my allied raiding force or defend your territory elsewhere. In the end this is a game of numbers so anything I can do to sway the favor elsewhere on the front to my side then I'll do it. This is an out of the box tactical approach to this wargame for those of us who are not skilled fighter pilots. Talk to the Soviet partisans behind German lines circa 1941 to 1944. It can actually be quite effective. There are times when I tied up four or five of you in your IL-2s, A-20Gs and Storches looking for my single Greyhound when you could have been tipping the odds of the schwerpunkt elsewhere. Heck, I've even shot down a fair number of you in the process which only infuriated you more and kept you coming after my nimble little six wheeled delight instead of concentrating on the main effort.

And there were many times that, without uttering a word, my teammates shifted their schwerpunkt to the base I was snooping around simply because I got it flashing. This action thus shifted the front in a new direction thus adding more dimension to the ebb and flow of the war effort while causing our adversary to adjust sometime saving one of our bases that was on the verge of collapse.

This is the beauty of a multidimensional game. I guess that's why I used to be so hooked on the Grand Theft Auto games back in the day. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport017.gif)
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: thndregg on July 12, 2014, 12:03:13 PM
I've done the "Lone Ranger" making the base flash- thing in a tank. Once in a while, I get a wild hair and want to antagonize folks at a base. Quite fun, even though I eventually get blasted.  :D
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: elc7367b on July 20, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
The easiest way to locate that thorn would be to up a plane, fly a designstrd route with film viewer on, land, log out, watch film, log back on, fly directly to thorn and remove it.  I am surprised that has not been mentioned before.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: cobia38 on July 21, 2014, 11:21:51 AM
The easiest way to locate that thorn would be to up a plane, fly a designstrd route with film viewer on, land, log out, watch film, log back on, fly directly to thorn and remove it.  I am surprised that has not been mentioned before.

 meanwhile,while you land and go offline to watch film,the perp just re-locates  :rofl





Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 21, 2014, 02:04:21 PM
meanwhile,while you land and go offline to watch film,the perp just re-locates  :rofl

Yup. At 60+ mph I can relocate awful fast. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport005.gif)
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: NatCigg on July 21, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
+1 disco inactive players.

If a guy wants to be a bug he should have to babysit his bug.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: lunatic1 on July 21, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
you don't have to be in a vehicle to make it flash--unles htc changed something lately
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: lunatic1 on July 22, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
-1000 to disco inactive players
discoing inactive players,is like banning them from taking a break.

if you don't like people going afk for whatever they are doing--TUFF! thats there poragative.

Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Wiley on July 22, 2014, 03:49:17 PM
I would just like to reiterate my awe at the amount of people who valiantly defend to the death their need to... not play the game.  Doubleclicking an icon has apparently reached the status of 'onerous chore'.

Regardless, anything they code is just too easy to circumvent so there's no point in worrying about it.

Wiley.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 22, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
-1000 to disco inactive players
discoing inactive players,is like banning them from taking a break.

if you don't like people going afk for whatever they are doing--TUFF! thats there poragative.



I agree. Hey! It's cramped and usually hot inside my virtual reality M8. If my simulated crew wants to step outside of the simulated vehicle to take a simulated whiz and K-rat break then so be it. If we happen to be in close proximity to an enemy base and they still want to do it, then my simulated crew has big simulated brass ones and they can do that. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink022.gif)
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: lunatic1 on July 24, 2014, 01:16:30 PM
I agree. Hey! It's cramped and usually hot inside my virtual reality M8. If my simulated crew wants to step outside of the simulated vehicle to take a simulated whiz and K-rat break then so be it. If we happen to be in close proximity to an enemy base and they still want to do it, then my simulated crew has big simulated brass ones and they can do that. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink022.gif)

 :lol smart allick  :lol

it's just i don't think people need to be logged off,when they want to take a break------it's that same as people trying to tell you or me or anybody how to play
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 24, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
:lol smart allick  :lol

it's just i don't think people need to be logged off,when they want to take a break------it's that same as people trying to tell you or me or anybody how to play

I actually do agree with you on this one. This is the beauty of a non-linear, non-time tabled MMOG. You can pretty much go where ever you want to and do whatever you want. If I want to park my sapper in a barn and then go have a snack and watch a re-run of The Big Bang Theory then that's my prerogative. If I get found and killed while I'm afk then so be it.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: alpini13 on July 24, 2014, 04:38:24 PM
YOU CANT HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THOSE THAT JUST WANT TO SIT AND DO NOTHING. ITS THEIR 14.99 A MONTH,AND THEY CAN PLAY HOW THEY WANT......FREAKIN FUN POLICE :neener:
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: lunatic1 on July 24, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
I actually do agree with you on this one. This is the beauty of a non-linear, non-time tabled MMOG. You can pretty much go where ever you want to and do whatever you want. If I want to park my sapper in a barn and then go have a snack and watch a re-run of The Big Bang Theory then that's my prerogative. If I get found and killed while I'm afk then so be it.

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 :lol sorry blinder--hardly anybody ever agrees with me--i was shocked-thankyou.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 24, 2014, 06:25:58 PM
Quote


 :lol sorry blinder--hardly anybody ever agrees with me--i was shocked-thankyou.


Thats cuz yer a lunatic.  :rock
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Scca on July 28, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
-1000 to disco inactive players
discoing inactive players,is like banning them from taking a break.

if you don't like people going afk for whatever they are doing--TUFF! thats there poragative.


I would agree if there was zero negative effect on other players.  I also don't think we are talking about a bio break or a beer run here.  We are talking about players AFK for hours and hours...

There should be a happy medium we can all agree on.   
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Zimme83 on July 28, 2014, 08:01:16 PM
Well, on a bomb run u can go for 30+ min, sometimes an hour, w/o moving the stick at all. It would not be a good idea to disco a bomber on auto climb or on a long noe-run. So auto disco inactive players is not a good idea. A gv sitting 1hr+ inactive is a very rare thing in the ma. not so much of a problem.
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Blinder on July 28, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Well, on a bomb run u can go for 30+ min, sometimes an hour, w/o moving the stick at all. It would not be a good idea to disco a bomber on auto climb or on a long noe-run. So auto disco inactive players is not a good idea. A gv sitting 1hr+ inactive is a very rare thing in the ma. not so much of a problem.

been there done that. Many times afk grabbing some grub or taking care of other such business whilst my 4 engined heavy labored for alt. This thread is invalid because it is all part of the game and quite frankly, we are entitled to do what we wish with our 15 bucks a month in this non-linear mmog.  :old:
Title: Re: inactive game play
Post by: Tinkles on July 28, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Perhaps we are approaching the problem wrong.  We are looking at the symptoms rather than the problem itself. The ENY currently calculates all players on a side, then compares those numbers to the other sides, then via an algorithum changes the ENY accordingly.  Perhaps there is a way that inactive players (not in planes, but in the tower for example) could still be afk, but not contribute to the ENY. Yet not be able to instantly spawn, in other words, not be able to abuse the 'immunity' given in the tower to spawn low ENY planes when ENY is high...

Other than my previous ideas on the matter, I am unsure of how to solve this issue.  I don't want to 'punish' players going afk either for Real life tasks or for long climbouts, but I don't want those who are 'fighting the fight' and playing the game, to suffer because of the others either.  Delicate balance, there is an answer here, but we need to find a method that benefits BOTH sides of this coin and doesn't punish those who are AFK via kicking them offline.