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Title: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 12:30:20 PM
There seems to be an issue with Verizon.  If you are seeing the error message stating you cannot connect to the "Game Manager", and you are certain your firewall is not blocking, AND you have reset your router, then we would like to see a Ping Plot (http://www.pingplotter.com/downloads/pngplt_1.exe) from you.

Please post the text output or image of your scan in this thread.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: 715 on July 07, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
I can ping .149 but neither .153 nor .154 respond.  No problem entering arenas though (last night anyway).

Bytes   Source   Seq   Time   Units
64   71.252.137.149   1   67.5   ms
64   71.252.137.149   2   68.1   ms
64   71.252.137.149   3   69.3   ms
64   71.252.137.149   4   68.1   ms
64   71.252.137.149   5   67.6   ms
64   71.252.137.149   6   67.7   ms
64   71.252.137.149   7   68.3   ms
64   71.252.137.149   8   69.2   ms
64   71.252.137.149   9   68.6   ms
64   71.252.137.149   10   68.9   ms
Time minimum:   67.50 ms
Time average:   68.25 ms
Time maximum:   69.30 ms
Packets transmitted:   10
Packets received:   10
Successful packets:   100%

Traceroute to 71.252.137.154:
Hop   Hostname   IP   Time 1
1   ubuntu.local   192.168.1.100   0.094
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   4.387
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.313
2   10.183.12.1   10.183.12.1   8.236
3   172.30.12.33   172.30.12.33   23.400
4   12.249.197.9   12.249.197.9   26.406
5   cr81.sj2ca.ip.att.net   12.122.110.110   29.706
6   cr1.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.1.117   37.359
7   gar23.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.114.5   30.187
9   vlan90.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.n et   4.69.152.254   97.030
10   ae-82-82.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net   4.69.153.25   101.658
11   ae-2-2.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net   4.69.148.141   98.212
12   ae-1-100.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net   4.69.148.110   96.717
13   ae-6-6.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net   4.69.148.201   99.779
14   ae-83-83.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net   4.69.151.157   97.508
15   ae-93-93.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net   4.69.151.169   97.350
16   ae-2-2.ebr1.Miami1.Level3.net   4.69.140.134   96.676
17   ae-1-51.edge2.Miami1.Level3.net   4.69.138.70   97.539
18   ae-1-51.edge2.Miami1.Level3.net   4.69.138.70   98.776
19   A-SUR-NET-I.edge2.Miami1.Level3.net   4.31.223.78   103.315
20   63.245.70.26   63.245.70.26   131.259
21   63.245.70.26   63.245.70.26   125.749
22   xe-0-1-0-h1-hfc02.flowja.com   72.252.25.179   142.215

I have no idea why it goes to Dallas then out to Miami to get lost.  The traceroute to .149 is much cleaner:

Hop   Hostname   IP   Time 1
1   ubuntu.local   192.168.1.100   0.093
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   2.016
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.271
2   10.183.12.1   10.183.12.1   8.522
3   172.30.12.33   172.30.12.33   21.528
4   12.249.197.9   12.249.197.9   25.966
5   cr81.sj2ca.ip.att.net   12.122.110.110   28.393
6   cr1.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.1.117   29.299
7   12.122.114.53   12.122.114.53   27.214
8   att-gw.sj.alter.net   192.205.36.62   27.610
9   B100.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net   130.81.199.59   68.837
11   static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net   71.252.137.149   69.686




Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
This looks like a bad route injection from an ISP in Jamaica.

They look like they are trying to claim our IP address as there own.

Not good.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
New game plan.

I need anyone and everyone to post up a trace route or Ping Plot to the following addresses.

71.252.137.149
71.252.137.151
71.252.137.153

Thank you for the help.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: 715 on July 07, 2014, 02:13:23 PM
Here's .151:

Hop   Hostname   IP   Time 1
1   ubuntu.local   192.168.1.100   0.095
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   2.122
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.266
2   10.183.12.1   10.183.12.1   9.564
3   172.30.12.33   172.30.12.33   24.663
4   12.249.197.9   12.249.197.9   25.833
5   cr81.sj2ca.ip.att.net   12.122.110.110   29.143
6   cr1.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.1.117   32.041
7   12.122.114.53   12.122.114.53   30.381
8   att-gw.sj.alter.net   192.205.36.62   26.792
9   P0-8-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net   130.81.199.35   69.543
11   static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net   71.252.137.151   68.387
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: FLS on July 07, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
C:\>tracert 71.252.137.149

Tracing route to static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.149]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms   [10.0.0.1]
  2    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  bras7-l0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [204.60.4.43]
  3     8 ms     9 ms     8 ms  dist2-vlan60.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [66.159.184.22
7]
  4    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  12.83.97.130
  5    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  gar13.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.121]
  6    36 ms    41 ms    36 ms  0.ae10.BR3.CHI13.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.165]
  7    59 ms    59 ms    59 ms  B200.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.162.1
53]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    60 ms    60 ms    60 ms  static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [7
1.252.137.149]

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert 71.252.137.151

Tracing route to static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.151]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms   [10.0.0.1]
  2    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  bras7-l0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [204.60.4.43]
  3     *        9 ms     8 ms  dist1-vlan60.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [66.159.184.22
6]
  4    10 ms    11 ms    12 ms  12.83.32.254
  5    35 ms    35 ms    36 ms  gar13.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.121]
  6    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  0.ae10.BR3.CHI13.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.165]
  7    57 ms    56 ms    55 ms  P0-0-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.1
51.243]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    56 ms    56 ms    55 ms  static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [7
1.252.137.151]

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert 71.252.137.153

Tracing route to static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.153]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms   [10.0.0.1]
  2    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  bras7-l0.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [204.60.4.43]
  3     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  dist2-vlan60.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net [66.159.184.22
7]
  4    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  12.83.97.130
  5    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  gar13.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.121]
  6    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  0.ae10.BR3.CHI13.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.165]
  7    65 ms    60 ms    59 ms  P0-8-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.1
99.37]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    60 ms    60 ms    60 ms  static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [7
1.252.137.153]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: 715 on July 07, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
Now .153 and .154 work.  Very weird. 

Hop   Hostname   IP   Time 1
1   ubuntu.local   192.168.1.100   0.092
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   4.309
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.276
2   10.183.12.1   10.183.12.1   8.979
3   172.30.12.33   172.30.12.33   21.858
4   12.249.197.9   12.249.197.9   24.687
5   cr81.sj2ca.ip.att.net   12.122.110.110   31.419
6   cr1.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.1.117   32.274
7   12.122.114.53   12.122.114.53   28.589
8   att-gw.sj.alter.net   192.205.36.62   28.114
9   P0-0-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net   130.81.151.245   68.041
11   static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net   71.252.137.153   70.026

Hop   Hostname   IP   Time 1
1   ubuntu.local   192.168.1.100   0.089
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.302
1   192.168.1.1   192.168.1.1   1.254
2   10.183.12.1   10.183.12.1   8.071
3   172.30.12.33   172.30.12.33   42.024
4   12.249.197.9   12.249.197.9   34.799
5   cr81.sj2ca.ip.att.net   12.122.110.110   29.662
6   cr1.sffca.ip.att.net   12.122.1.117   29.202
7   12.122.114.53   12.122.114.53   28.614
8   att-gw.sj.alter.net   192.205.36.62   27.681
9   B100.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net   130.81.199.59   69.412
11   static-71-252-137-154.dllstx.fios.verizon.net   71.252.137.154   69.536
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 07, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
From space coast in Florida
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 07, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
It appears to get worse as PingPlotter runs longer.

Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Schen on July 07, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
same result on all 3 with 15-17 hops

ending and stoping at    

72.252.25.179 xe-0-1-0-h1-hfc02.flowja.com
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
I called the ISP in Jamaica, but they support people would not allow me to talk to one of their networking engineers.  I managed to get an email address and have sent off an email detailing the problem.

Not sure if anything will come of it.  Hopefully, they will realize what they have done and correct it quickly.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: The Fugitive on July 07, 2014, 03:49:14 PM
Here are mine.....

Target Name: static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.149
  Date/Time: 7/7/2014 4:45:15 PM to 7/7/2014 4:45:44 PM

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    30   0   0.0  10  20  15  WRT610N [192.168.1.1]
 2    30   0   0.0  19  49  29  [10.241.112.1]
 3    30   0   0.0  19  40  29  dtr02sbdgma-tge-0-0-0-3.sbdg.ma.charter.com [96.34.84.158]
 4    30   0   0.0  19  49  29  crr03oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.80.162]
 5    30   0   0.0  19  59  36  bbr01oxfrma-bue-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.12]
 6    30   0   0.0  19  70  33  xe-5-0-3.bar2.Boston1.Level3.net [4.53.56.169]
 7    30   0   0.0  29  50  40  ae-8-8.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.140.98]
 8    30   0   0.0  29  69  42  ae-47-47.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.201.46]
 9    30  23  76.7  29  50  37  ae-1-51.ear1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.201]
10    30   0   0.0  29  90  39  [208.51.134.134]
11    30   0   0.0  29  69  40  [64.215.195.34]
12    30   0   0.0  59  90  78  P0-0-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.151.245]
13    30  30 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
14    30   0   0.0  69  99  79  static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.149]

Target Name: static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.151
  Date/Time: 7/7/2014 4:46:41 PM to 7/7/2014 4:47:10 PM

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    30   0   0.0  15  31  27  WRT610N [192.168.1.1]
 2    30   0   0.0  31  62  47  [10.241.112.1]
 3    30   0   0.0  31  62  47  dtr02sbdgma-tge-0-0-0-3.sbdg.ma.charter.com [96.34.84.158]
 4    30   0   0.0  31  77  48  crr03oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.80.162]
 5    30   0   0.0  31  78  48  bbr01oxfrma-bue-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.12]
 6    30   0   0.0  30 124  54  xe-4-2-0.bar2.Boston1.Level3.net [4.53.56.129]
 7    30   0   0.0  31  77  52  ae-8-8.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.140.98]
 8    30   0   0.0  31  77  53  ae-48-48.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.201.50]
 9    28  19  67.9  31  62  51  ae-1-51.ear1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.201]
10    30   0   0.0  31 124  53  [208.51.134.134]
11    30   0   0.0  31  62  47  [208.49.136.38]
12    30   0   0.0  77 109  94  P0-0-0-0.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.151.243]
13    30  30 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
14    30   0   0.0  77 109  97  static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.151]

Target Name: static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.153
  Date/Time: 7/7/2014 4:47:49 PM to 7/7/2014 4:48:19 PM

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    30   0   0.0  15  31  25  WRT610N [192.168.1.1]
 2    30   0   0.0  31  62  54  [10.241.112.1]
 3    30   0   0.0  31  62  53  dtr02sbdgma-tge-0-0-0-3.sbdg.ma.charter.com [96.34.84.158]
 4    30   0   0.0  31  77  52  crr03oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.80.162]
 5    30   0   0.0  31  77  51  bbr01oxfrma-bue-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.12]
 6    30   0   0.0  31 109  53  xe-4-2-0.bar2.Boston1.Level3.net [4.53.56.129]
 7    30   0   0.0  31  62  52  ae-8-8.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.140.98]
 8    30   0   0.0  31  77  51  ae-48-48.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.201.50]
 9    26  19  73.1  31  78  55  ae-1-51.ear1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.201]
10    30   0   0.0  31  77  53  [208.51.134.134]
11    30   0   0.0  46  77  57  [64.215.195.34]
12    30   0   0.0  77 124  97  B100.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.59]
13    30  30 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
14    30   0   0.0  78 109  98  static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.153]
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
I am assuming all of you who have the same, or similar, traces for all three IP addresses, are also working just fine.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 07, 2014, 04:06:21 PM
Have been able to connect to AH however the lost count for LW Arena cycles frequently from 0 to 1 while watching ping details.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 07, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Have been able to connect to AH however the lost count for LW Arena cycles frequently from 0 to 1 while watching ping details.

That could happen at any router from you to the servers.  You would need to run Ping Plotter, for a few minutes, to capture where that is happening.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 07, 2014, 04:39:40 PM
That could happen at any router from you to the servers.  You would need to run Ping Plotter, for a few minutes, to capture where that is happening.

Ran PingPlotter on 71.252.137.154.

Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: wayneman47 on July 07, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Here's mine
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: The Fugitive on July 07, 2014, 08:30:23 PM
I am assuming all of you who have the same, or similar, traces for all three IP addresses, are also working just fine.

Yes Skuzzy, while mines not pretty, I CAN connect ok.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Schen on July 07, 2014, 08:36:07 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/Capture_zpsca48b982.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/49_zpsd68240a8.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/51_zps12ad4617.jpg)
Correction I ran ping plotter again and on all the tests of

71.252.137.153
71.252.137.154


and now this.....
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/wtf_zpsc109a160.jpg)
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: wayneman47 on July 07, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
Here's an updated longer one of mine still unable to connect,may be forced to cancel my subscription if I am unable to connect.,runnin a trace on .151 now will add as soon as its done a 15 minute or better run.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 06:26:59 AM
Ran PingPlotter on 71.252.137.154.



Your ISP is using Xo Communications as their Internet transport and it appears XO is having issues with congestion or other problems.

You would need to contact your ISP's Tier 2 support (not the first line of defense support which is not going to help at all) and notify them of the issue.  They will not confirm there is a problem, as it would mean they would be required to address it.  However, the problem may suddenly clear itself up after you notify them, unless XO is not able to correct the issue.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 06:28:53 AM
Here's mine

Nothing appears to be wrong in your trace/Ping Plot.  If you are having problems connecting to the game, then it coul d be something local to your computer.  I am starting to suspect Kaspersky may have an update in the wild which is blocking some access, especially to the Early War arena.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 06:30:26 AM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/Capture_zpsca48b982.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/49_zpsd68240a8.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/51_zps12ad4617.jpg)
Correction I ran ping plotter again and on all the tests of

71.252.137.153
71.252.137.154


and now this.....
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t572/Schen88/wtf_zpsc109a160.jpg)

Those Ping Plots are looking normal now.  If you still cannot connect, what anti-xxx software are you using?
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 08, 2014, 07:27:23 AM
Your ISP is using Xo Communications as their Internet transport and it appears XO is having issues with congestion or other problems.

You would need to contact your ISP's Tier 2 support (not the first line of defense support which is not going to help at all) and notify them of the issue.  They will not confirm there is a problem, as it would mean they would be required to address it.  However, the problem may suddenly clear itself up after you notify them, unless XO is not able to correct the issue.

Thank you Skuzzy. My provider is Brighthouse. Will call them today.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Rich46yo on July 08, 2014, 09:24:20 AM
New game plan.

I need anyone and everyone to post up a trace route or Ping Plot to the following addresses.

71.252.137.149
71.252.137.151
71.252.137.153

Thank you for the help.

.149 (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/149_zpse3adb219.png)

.151 (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/151_zps2cca776e.png)

.153 (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/153_zps3b1fcc58.png)

Still cant get on LWA. The game freezes up when I try. Every other arena, and every other program, on the computer is fine.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 10:47:48 AM
Where does it freeze up?

What anti-virus is installed on your computer?
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Rich46yo on July 08, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
Where does it freeze up?

What anti-virus is installed on your computer?

Resetting my router solved it.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 11:59:44 AM
Resetting my router solved it.

Good to hear.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Schen on July 08, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
Those Ping Plots are looking normal now.  If you still cannot connect, what anti-xxx software are you using?

still cant connect, im using trend micro as a antivirus software.... still not able to connect to the main arena,
currently talking with my tech support to hopefully refresh BGP tables.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 08, 2014, 01:40:47 PM
still cant connect, im using trend micro as a antivirus software.... still not able to connect to the main arena,
currently talking with my tech support to hopefully refresh BGP tables.

I assume you disable your anti-virus before running the game.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Cavalry3 on July 08, 2014, 09:55:29 PM
ping plotter stuff for me. :bhead :furious  no way to send email from me to support@hitechcreations.com  Can't get the dern ping plotter image to copy and past into the buffer in this BBS.

Target Name: static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.153
  Date/Time: 7/8/2014 9:42:06 PM

 1    1 ms  [192.168.2.1]
 2    6 ms  [10.252.0.1]
 3    8 ms  173-219-249-18-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.18]
 4   26 ms  173-219-249-248-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.248]
 5   *       [-]
 6   *       [-]
 7   47 ms  TenGigE0-3-1-0.GW2.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.179.92.5]
 8   *       [-]
 9   30 ms  static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.153]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 30ms  baloney!  I got 100% packet loss on this one between 4-5, 5-6,7-8!!!

Target Name: static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.151
  Date/Time: 7/8/2014 9:52:40 PM

 1    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms  [192.168.2.1]
 2   12 ms    8 ms    7 ms  [10.252.0.1]
 3   12 ms   10 ms    6 ms  173-219-249-18-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.18]
 4   22 ms   27 ms   21 ms  173-219-249-248-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.248]
 5   25 ms   30 ms   18 ms  ae2-115.dal33.ip4.tinet.net [46.33.80.101]
 6  N/A      59 ms   52 ms  xe-2-0-0.chi11.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.187.89]
 7  N/A     N/A      46 ms  TenGigE0-3-1-0.GW2.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.179.92.5]
 8   *       *       *       [-]
 9   30 ms   22 ms   *      static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.151]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 2, Lost = 1 (33.3%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 26ms more tube steak!!!!  100% PL again.

Target Name: static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.149
  Date/Time: 7/8/2014 9:54:07 PM

 1    0 ms  [192.168.2.1]
 2    9 ms  [10.252.0.1]
 3    8 ms  173-219-249-18-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.18]
 4   24 ms  173-219-249-248-link.sta.suddenlink.net [173.219.249.248]
 5   *       [-]
 6   47 ms  xe-4-1-0.chi11.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.109.149]
 7   34 ms  B200.DLLSTX-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.162.161]
 8   53 ms  B200.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.162.153]
 9   *       [-]
10   47 ms  static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.149]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 47ms, Average = 47ms  again, at least two instances of 100% PL (per scan)!!!!! :furious :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Cavalry3 on July 08, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
I will reset my suddenlink.net modem tonight, and feed the squirrels that package up the electrons in paper bags.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 09, 2014, 06:00:30 AM
I will reset my suddenlink.net modem tonight, and feed the squirrels that package up the electrons in paper bags.

If you are located in Texas, then you need to point them to the traces you took and ask why they are routing the data through Chicago when the final destination is also in Texas.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: DrBone1 on July 09, 2014, 09:45:04 AM
1 Call to my ISP which they denied any problems going on with my Connection or my Internet activity the next few hours I was able to connect to AH arena's

Still a little unstable but at least I got my AH FIX FOR THE DAY!!  :rock
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 09, 2014, 09:53:13 AM
It seems to be much better than yesterday.  I am getting reports from several players who could not play they are now reaching the servers just fine.  Hopefully, today will finally see everything back to normal.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 09, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
Your ISP is using Xo Communications as their Internet transport and it appears XO is having issues with congestion or other problems.

You would need to contact your ISP's Tier 2 support (not the first line of defense support which is not going to help at all) and notify them of the issue.  They will not confirm there is a problem, as it would mean they would be required to address it.  However, the problem may suddenly clear itself up after you notify them, unless XO is not able to correct the issue.

Just spoke with Tier 3 support at Brighthouse and they did the same old song and dance. I asked directly how could we get the message to XO about the dropped packets and never got an answer.

They did offer to upgrade my cable modem for free "just in case" I decided to upgrade my service in the future. I explained that the bandwidth requirement of this game has nothing to do with XO dropping packets.

So they are coming out tomorrow to give me a new modem and check out the local equipment.

Let's hope they do something about the dropped packets at XO.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 09, 2014, 12:57:19 PM
Just got off the phone with XO. Yes they did actually talk to me!

In case you're curious, technician said in so many words..."our engineers need to tweak policy so you don't see packet loss when you ping us, we're not really dropping data packets. We sure do get a lot of calls about that."
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 09, 2014, 01:14:46 PM
Just got off the phone with XO. Yes they did actually talk to me!

In case you're curious, technician said in so many words..."our engineers need to tweak policy so you don't see packet loss when you ping us, we're not really dropping data packets. We sure do get a lot of calls about that."

Of course they are going to say that.  If you are getting disco's and you do a Ping Plot (by the way, you can chose to use another protocol in Ping Plot, and not ICMP), and see packet loss in the path, you can be pretty certain that there really is packet loss happening.

Aces High does a lot of things to help maintain a connection.  It just cannot do much when there is no data to work with (ie packet loss).
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: wayneman47 on July 09, 2014, 01:22:31 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/myedwn5ydaoilm1/Screenshot%202014-07-09%2012.19.46.png,roy here's another trace route screen shot if you want to take a look at as of today  I haven't tried to connect yet just reinstaling the game now.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 09, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/myedwn5ydaoilm1/Screenshot%202014-07-09%2012.19.46.png,roy here's another trace route screen shot if you want to take a look at as of today  I haven't tried to connect yet just reinstaling the game now.

That trace looks pretty normal.  Run a trace to 71.252.137.151 and see if they match.  if they do, then you should be good to go.  If they do not, then the Internet is still healing for you.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 09, 2014, 01:27:22 PM
Of course they are going to say that.  If you are getting disco's and you do a Ping Plot (by the way, you can chose to use another protocol in Ping Plot, and not ICMP), and see packet loss in the path, you can be pretty certain that there really is packet loss happening.

Aces High does a lot of things to help maintain a connection.  It just cannot do much when there is no data to work with (ie packet loss).

It was hard not to laugh while I was talking with him! All I can do is shake my head and quietly look for a new ISP.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: wayneman47 on July 09, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
YES,fresh reinstall of the game,my ISP set me up with a new  ip (for free) and was  an instant connection to the game.Pings on all the arenas are constant and around 100 or under.Thanks for the support Roy and the tips.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Schen on July 09, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
Game is good to go for me too skuzzy thanks for taking this serious, even though it really seemed to effect Canadians mostly, my ping is holding 110 to 150 with minor bounces, but I can play and thats still not all that bad.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 09, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
Good to hear.

Problems like this can be so frustrating as all you can do is sit back and wait for the fixes to propagate.

We appreciate the patience everyone showed.  <S>
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Schen on July 09, 2014, 05:20:17 PM
Good to hear.

Problems like this can be so frustrating as all you can do is sit back and wait for the fixes to propagate.

We appreciate the patience everyone showed.  <S>



Yes frustrating,  you mean almost throwing your joystick across the room, yelling at a computer frustrating, I can relate... :bolt:

Again thanks im sure it wasn't an easy find or solution.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 10, 2014, 06:28:28 AM
Finding the problem was not that hard.  Getting them to correct it took more time than I would have liked, and then just having to wait on the Internet to catch up was really painful.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drano on July 13, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
Here's mine. Northern Delaware on Comcast.

149:

Target Name: static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.149
  Date/Time: 7/13/2014 12:59:27 PM

 2  N/A      42 ms   21 ms   11 ms  N/A      11 ms  te-9-2-ur01.limestonedr.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.78.73]
 3    8 ms   10 ms   10 ms    9 ms  N/A      11 ms  te-1-1-ur02.limestonedr.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.35.34]
 4   13 ms   48 ms    9 ms   10 ms  N/A       9 ms  ge-3-22-ur01.williamsport.pa.pitt.comcast.net [68.86.211.161]
 5  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      14 ms  pos-5-15-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.94.249]
 6   15 ms   13 ms   14 ms   14 ms  N/A      14 ms  he-0-10-0-0-pe07.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.83.66]
 7   13 ms   12 ms   16 ms   13 ms  N/A      12 ms  n-a.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.179.50.205]
 8   67 ms   51 ms   54 ms   51 ms  N/A      50 ms  B100.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.59]
 9   *       *       *       *      N/A      *       [-]
10   50 ms   66 ms   50 ms   52 ms  N/A      49 ms  static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.149]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-149.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 49ms, Maximum = 66ms, Average = 53ms

151:

Target Name: static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.151
  Date/Time: 7/13/2014 1:02:36 PM to 7/13/2014 1:04:51 PM

 2   65 ms   13 ms   17 ms   10 ms   13 ms    8 ms   60 ms    8 ms   10 ms   11 ms  te-9-2-ur01.limestonedr.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.78.73]
 3  N/A      10 ms   96 ms   10 ms   43 ms   11 ms   41 ms   10 ms   11 ms   11 ms  xe-2-0-3-0-ar03.coatesville.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.153.229]
 4  N/A     N/A      11 ms  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      10 ms  so-20-0-0-0-ar03.newcastle.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.141]
 5  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      17 ms  N/A      15 ms   17 ms  pos-5-12-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.95.137]
 6   16 ms   18 ms   14 ms   12 ms   16 ms   15 ms   13 ms   15 ms   30 ms   30 ms  he-0-11-0-1-pe07.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.83.78]
 7   14 ms   13 ms   14 ms   15 ms   15 ms   13 ms   46 ms   15 ms   15 ms   14 ms  n-a.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.179.50.205]
 8   55 ms   54 ms   53 ms   51 ms   53 ms   51 ms   59 ms   52 ms   53 ms   54 ms  B200.DLLSTX-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.162.161]
 9   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       [-]
10   62 ms   51 ms   53 ms   52 ms   53 ms   52 ms   67 ms   53 ms   52 ms   53 ms  static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.151]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 67ms, Average = 54ms

And 153:

Target Name: static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
         IP: 71.252.137.153
  Date/Time: 7/13/2014 1:05:26 PM to 7/13/2014 1:07:41 PM

 2  428 ms    9 ms   14 ms    9 ms   10 ms   10 ms   10 ms    9 ms    9 ms   10 ms  te-9-2-ur01.limestonedr.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.78.73]
 3  N/A      10 ms    9 ms   10 ms   11 ms   42 ms   11 ms   11 ms   10 ms   10 ms  xe-2-0-3-0-ar03.coatesville.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.153.229]
 4  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      10 ms  N/A     N/A      11 ms  N/A      11 ms  so-18-1-0-0-ar03.newcastle.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.125]
 5  N/A      17 ms  N/A     N/A     N/A      14 ms  N/A     N/A     N/A      19 ms  pos-5-15-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.94.249]
 6  N/A      14 ms   15 ms   15 ms   15 ms   13 ms   29 ms   14 ms   14 ms   13 ms  he-0-12-0-1-pe07.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.83.86]
 7  N/A      14 ms   13 ms   15 ms   15 ms   15 ms   14 ms   29 ms   14 ms   15 ms  n-a.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.179.50.205]
 8  N/A      52 ms   54 ms   52 ms   52 ms   53 ms   54 ms   51 ms   53 ms   57 ms  B100.DLLSTX-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.59]
 9  N/A      *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       [-]
10   55 ms   52 ms   52 ms   56 ms   51 ms   53 ms   51 ms   53 ms   54 ms   52 ms  static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.252.137.153]

Ping statistics for static-71-252-137-153.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 52ms
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2014, 05:56:46 AM
Okay, it is showing packet loss in Comcast's network.  On occasion, right at the second hop (your connection).  Pretty messy.

Have you tried power cycling your router?  If you have, then your connection is suspect.
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drano on July 14, 2014, 08:40:17 AM
That was just after a power cycle. I noticed that second hop goes from a very local server then up into PA near Philly then back down near here before heading south to VA. You think them interwebs would take a smarter route! You wouldn't drive that way!

Factor in a hot day and some nasty storms this past week. Don't appear to be having problems but my flying time has been scarce. Just posted for your info 
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: Drane on July 19, 2014, 07:40:36 AM
Skuzzy here's something I haven't seen before captured Friday 7/11 @ 2033 CST.

I didn't open AH until immediately after seeing this. Arenas were all up and appeared to have stable ping.

Sorry meant to post earlier.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/33kskxv.jpg)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/11mauts.jpg)
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: mikev on August 05, 2014, 09:36:23 PM
aberdeen sd midco cable
Title: Re: Ping Plotter how-to
Post by: The Fugitive on August 06, 2014, 06:33:32 AM
aberdeen sd midco cable

Let it run 5-10 minutes pinging every second to get a good sample for the averages.