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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: puller on August 01, 2014, 12:47:35 PM
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I just want to share a tidbit and see what y'all would do in this situation...
I live on 40 acres...with an acre cut out for my house and yard...no one lives behind me for 1 mile...no one lives to my south for 3/4 of a mile...across the road to my west there isn't anything but Verdigris River bottoms...and until about a year ago the closest house to my north was about 400 yards...until someone bought the land in between us...
I have 4 dogs...a male bull mastiff...and then a female cow dog lab mix, a Chihuahua, and some sort of terrier looking dog (best squirrel dog ever)...
My dogs do not leave my property and since my new neighbor built his house they don't even cross my north fence...but his dogs on the other hand...
So within the first week of him bringing his dogs out there...I was rushed by his male cow dog...it stalked my 7 year old daughter and my mother-in-law while they were in the garden...I was rushed by it again and knocked it upside the head with a piece of pipe...I had 2 chickens disappear without a trace...So I told dude about it...he said shoot it...I said no way I'm not shooting your dog...and a few months pass with only the dog stalking us in the grass from the other side of the fence, and a few times where Boomer (the bull mastiff) would whoop him back across the fence...
Fast forward to July...I found a kitten abandoned on the side of the road...barn cat...hell yeah...I brought it home to huge acclaim from my little girl...and the kitten instantly started playing with my dogs...the cat would chase the Chihuahua around and it was eating in between Boomer's legs...all my animals get along with everything...yet everyday my neighbors cow dog...stalking us...so I got the call from my girl...daddy I cant find Luckie (the kitten) but we heard the dogs fighting this morning...so I knew what had happened...neighbors dogs came down raided my yard killed the cat and they got their arses whooped back up the hill...the cat was friends with my dogs...I should have expected it...So I talked to my neighbor he apologized and we have an understanding...we live in the country...our dogs run loose...stuff happens...and again he told me to shoot his dogs...
Couple of days later, I hear my daughter screaming outside...I rush out to see her leaned up against the propane tank with her Daisy BB gun in hand layin' fire up the hill and I see my neighbors dogs haulin' tail...I patted her on the head and told her good job...the dogs had come across the fence and were after Tootsie (the Chihuahua)...during my neighbor and I's conversation about the cat...I told him the worst thing that could happen was Tootsie getting killed by them and that would be grounds for shooting them...
So by know you probably know what happened this morning....the Chihuahua dog is at the vet and I have 3 devastated women at the house...and here is what this whole spill leads up too
Would you shoot another man's dog....I mean I'll shoot my own and have, if need arises...But I cannot bring myself to take a shot at another man's dog and risk it bleeding to death on his porch...EVEN THOUGH he has told me several times to shoot them...What say you?
And before you say "well your an idiot Puller, it's gonna get your daughter...your daughter shouldn't be outside with it running loose" Don't worry about her...Ethel (my cow dog) doesn't stray 4 foot from her...I do not worry about it too awful much...when she shoots at them (she takes shots at them a lot) Ethel sits by her feet and watches...probably laughing...and if you bring up the dog rushing me...I shouldn't have been trying to call it too me and I'm the water guy around here...all dogs try to bite me...
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I hate to ask, but how about calling the law? I understand dog runnin free, but when you suffer the loss of a kitten and an injured chihuahua, SOMETHING has too give. I don't know if i could shot the dog or not, I'm not in the situation and I don't carry, but....if another dog attacked mine, he wouldn't survive, his throat would definitely be opened up.
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It killed one of your pets, maimed another, and has been threatening towards your children on YOUR property. SSS.
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Couple of days later, I hear my daughter screaming outside...I rush out to see her leaned up against the propane tank with her Daisy BB gun in hand layin' fire up the hill and I see my neighbors dogs haulin' tail...
:lol
:aok
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First day that animal came out me aggressively on my property and I would have shot it.
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It would of been shot dead after the first attempt
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Electric fence. Not the low power dog kind.
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Better solution: Shoot the neighbor. Sounds like a giant "Richard". Make that jerk pay for tootsie's vet bills. Tell him he can shoot his own dogs, or you'll blow his toes off one by one.
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That's tough, I'm sorry to hear that. I would kill another dog of it hurt my dog or killed my cat on my property. Either that or give him a backside full of birdshot. He won't come back.
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Yes I would in a second, without a second thought. I would then bury it and when the neighbor came looking for it tell him I haven't seen it. Keeps him from getting revenge on you or your animals.
I mean it wouldn't even be a hesitation....very sad that neighbor thinks so little of you, your family, your pets and his dog.
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Better solution: Shoot the neighbor. Sounds like a giant "Richard". Make that jerk pay for tootsie's vet bills. Tell him he can shoot his own dogs, or you'll blow his toes off one by one.
So you are suggesting he violate the law by threatening to shoot the neighbor in the feet?
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Tough situation. You like to have your own dogs able to run free and wouldn't mind if your neighbors do the same. They are no problem to others but it sounds like the neighbor knows his dog is aggressive and is goading you to shoot it? He may shoot yours in retaliation. You don't want problems with people you have to live close to.
I had an instance where I would ride my bike to work and a dog would run out of this particular yard and attack me every time I rode by. So the next time I went by I had a handful of gravel and whipped it in the dogs face. From then on he would bark at me but not come close.
I don't want to kill an animal that is not taught properly by it's owner. I would shoot the dog but with salt shot that would scare the heck out of him and maybe he will avoid your area. That's what the farmers would do when we tried to steal his melons. :D
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Tough situation. You like to have your own dogs able to run free and wouldn't mind if your neighbors do the same. They are no problem to others but it sounds like the neighbor knows his dog is aggressive and is goading you to shoot it? He may shoot yours in retaliation. You don't want problems with people you have to live close to.
I had an instance where I would ride my bike to work and a dog would run out of this particular yard and attack me every time I rode by. So the next time I went by I had a handful of gravel and whipped it in the dogs face. From then on he would bark at me but not come close.
I don't want to kill an animal that is not taught properly by it's owner. I would shoot the dog but with salt shot that would scare the heck out of him and maybe he will avoid your area. That's what the farmers would do when we tried to steal his melons. :D
Relatedly I had a farmer shoot rock salt at me when I helped sneak his daughter back in the house ( true story, I know it sounds like a bad joke...but gods honest truth ) :D
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Just my opinion.
I live in the similar situation, out in the boonies. I've killed dogs, I've rescued dogs. I recently had a neighbor dog running my cattle. I rounded the dog up, took to his owner and as I was petting the dog told its owner that I'd shoot it on sight the next time I saw it chasing my cattle. No more problems.
If you involve the law your pretty much going to get the same answer. "Sir you have a right to protect your family and property but we can't make him put his dog up." (Standard Answer as I've given it many times.)
If it were me I'd shoot it late at night, on my property of course, and either just leave it lay or drag it out to the road to make it appear it got run over. Dont tell anyone and the owners may assume it just ran off. Shoot to kill it. Dont let it run to its owner or make it suffer.
This all may sound cruel and I'm sure your daughters dog would gladly die protecting her, my land shark would do the same, but sounds like your playing with fire. Kill it or next time it could be a child at the er.
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Or have a friend, that you trust of course, come shoot it while your on vacation or something.
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Great input guys...and here is your afternoon update
Baby's dog gonna be ok...a busted rib and a pair of wounds one on the broke rib and the other through her leg...very lucky dog...it's lucky that my big dogs came on scene before she (the chihuahua dog) suffered the same fate as the cat...
The sheriff's dept. around here would berate me for not shooting the guy's dog :lol I've done been told by several of the deputies to blast any dog in my district that I saw as a threat...and THEN to call them so the owner could talk to them about why I (the water guy) shot Fluffy for trying to lunge at my throat...I'm always packing something :aok
And lastly...my neighbor has already taken care of both of his dogs...I told him on the phone earlier not to do it...but...at least he did it instead of me making a tough running shot and it bleeding to death on their porch...AND he is picking up the vet bill...so I guess all has worked itself out...now I can turn my chickens out into my garden...damn grasshoppers are eating more out of it than me :eek: ...
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Don't you find it kind of strange he tells you to shoot his dogs? Is that a dare or veiled threat?
Just strikes me as an odd statement.
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Great input guys...and here is your afternoon update
Baby's dog gonna be ok...a busted rib and a pair of wounds one on the broke rib and the other through her leg...very lucky dog...it's lucky that my big dogs came on scene before she (the chihuahua dog) suffered the same fate as the cat...
The sheriff's dept. around here would berate me for not shooting the guy's dog :lol I've done been told by several of the deputies to blast any dog in my district that I saw as a threat...and THEN to call them so the owner could talk to them about why I (the water guy) shot Fluffy for trying to lunge at my throat...I'm always packing something :aok
And lastly...my neighbor has already taken care of both of his dogs...I told him on the phone earlier not to do it...but...at least he did it instead of me making a tough running shot and it bleeding to death on their porch...AND he is picking up the vet bill...so I guess all has worked itself out...now I can turn my chickens out into my garden...damn grasshoppers are eating more out of it than me :eek: ...
Sounds like a stand up guy. Glad the problem has been solved.
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Don't you find it kind of strange he tells you to shoot his dogs? Is that a dare or veiled threat?
Just strikes me as an odd statement.
Did me too.
Poor little kitten, happy to hear that your daughter and little dog are ok. :salute
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Relatedly I had a farmer shoot rock salt at me when I helped sneak his daughter back in the house ( true story, I know it sounds like a bad joke...but gods honest truth ) :D
I honestly believe you.... 1972 my brothers and I and a few friends were out on Halloween there is this real mean old man that was always mean to everybody so we decided to egg his house ohhh man wrong idea we toss the eggs. Front door came flying open and all we could hear was shotgun blasts every single one of us got peppered with rock salt lol old man Zurflugh was his name and after that we never bothered him again :bolt:
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Great input guys...and here is your afternoon update
Baby's dog gonna be ok...a busted rib and a pair of wounds one on the broke rib and the other through her leg...very lucky dog...it's lucky that my big dogs came on scene before she (the chihuahua dog) suffered the same fate as the cat...
The sheriff's dept. around here would berate me for not shooting the guy's dog :lol I've done been told by several of the deputies to blast any dog in my district that I saw as a threat...and THEN to call them so the owner could talk to them about why I (the water guy) shot Fluffy for trying to lunge at my throat...I'm always packing something :aok
And lastly...my neighbor has already taken care of both of his dogs...I told him on the phone earlier not to do it...but...at least he did it instead of me making a tough running shot and it bleeding to death on their porch...AND he is picking up the vet bill...so I guess all has worked itself out...now I can turn my chickens out into my garden...damn grasshoppers are eating more out of it than me :eek: ...
excellent, your neighbor did the right thing :aok
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All I would have to say either run it by the local sheriffs/police dept. or an attorney first and see what your rights are. Always a good idea to get the neighbor to put on paper that he is ok with you shooting their dogs. To bad things couldn't have worked out better, but at least the threat is gone.
Sorry about the barn cat, I recommend having a couple of them around in rural settings for keeping the mice population down.
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Rock salt. Bout the oldest trick in the book.
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what are you gonna do when the dog comes and actually hurts one of your family. You would probably not think twice of shooting if some intruder came into your property and threaten you or your family.
either shoot and by all means you have the right or wait until he hurts somebody then your gonna want to shoot the dog and your neighbor.
semp
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what are you gonna do when the dog comes and actually hurts one of your family. You would probably not think twice of shooting if some intruder came into your property and threaten you or your family.
either shoot and by all means you have the right or wait until he hurts somebody then your gonna want to shoot the dog and your neighbor.
semp
No problem with the dogs any more
68 ZooM
had a farmer like that nearby when young who liked to shoot rock salt. His hay barn burned down one night (never knew what started the fire)
my neighbor has already taken care of both of his dogs...I told him on the phone earlier not to do it...but...at least he did it
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So you are suggesting he violate the law by threatening to shoot the neighbor in the feet?
No, I'm suggesting that the guy is an idiot, and that maybe Puller should be firmer in his interactions with said cretin.
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Wow. Just...wow. So you let it escalate to the point where it killed your cat, maimed one of your dogs and threaten your child? I...will be ruled 4 if I continue. Sorry, nothing round that.
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everybody miss the part where the owner of the dogs put the dogs down, he also apologized extremely and paid for all the vet bills. the dogs are dead.
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Really glad things are settled, man! I'm sorry that mess happened in the first place.
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Thats a tough situation ! I wouldent shoot it without a written agreement! Lol! That what living in the city 2 years has done to me! Sounds like your raising a family the good ole way!!
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everybody miss the part where the owner of the dogs put the dogs down, he also apologized extremely and paid for all the vet bills. the dogs are dead.
Where in my post do I even mention dealing with the dog? I had already seen that the dogs were dealt with, or I would have quoted Meatwad's response (though the response still holds value). You missed what I was commenting on. I'll make it simple; I was commenting on puller letting it escalate to what it did.
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Where in my post do I even mention dealing with the dog? I had already seen that the dogs were dealt with, or I would have quoted Meatwad's response (though the response still holds value). You missed what I was commenting on. I'll make it simple; I was commenting on puller letting it escalate to what it did.
where did I specifically say I was talking to you?
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where did I specifically say I was talking to you?
Yeah, I apologize for that. I should have also worded the ending bit better as well. "I'll cut to the point:" is a much better way to say something versus, "I'll make it simple:". When I originally typed it, even after reading it over a couple of times, it didn't seem like an attack, nor was it intended. Reading it now though, it is worded poorly and could be mistaken as such. I apologize for that as well.
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When I was a small one(long ago) we lived many miles from any town in rural Minn..our 'driveway' from gravel county road was 5 miles long. My father brought home a Shetland pony in back of his 4 door Studie Lark. Pooped seat out, laid down moving quilts and lead it in shutting doors. $25 w/saddle tack and wishes from previous owner to never see that '#$@#^*(^^(^' again... He fenced in area around our barn, made a stall, and 'I' had a pony.
Twice a german shepherd got into it's corral, chased pony about and it leaped over the fence, the barbed wire at top ripping it's belly pretty good. Dog had collar, came when called, nearby Dr owned. My dad took it home first time..owner said tough beans about $50(1960 dollars) vet bill..
Second time was about 8 am on crisp morning, barn was 300 or so yards from house. We could hear the dog and pony..dad got out his Mauser, laid it across the back porch rail...and shot that dog.
We walked back to barn, gathered up and repenned pony but couldn't find the shepherd, just some blood spots.
Later that day State trooper my dad knew came by, arrested dad, dog had been hit behind shoulder breaking it's back and crawled probably 6-8 miles home. Dr had sworn out warrant, had to put dog down. Dad made bail on own recognizance.
At the hearing judge patiently listen to Dr, beloved dog, etc, etc..listened to my dad. Than gave his judgement. Farm stock, of which he considered this dog one, were responsibility of owner to keep on their own land. If the owner had demonstrated an inability, or lack of desire to keep his stock on his land it belonged to person whose land it was on. He said my dad had shot his own dog, as he was entitled to do. JGroth
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Couple months later I was w/my dad and man walked by house w/his beagle.....he and dad struck up conversation..man suddenly said "Your Mr XXXXX aren't you, fellow that shot that dog?" My dad said he was..there was a pause, the stranger said"See that beagle there, he's my dog. If you see him on your land without me...you shoot him, as he's doing me no good if he runs off." And he and his dog strolled off.
JGroth
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First day that animal came out me aggressively on my property and I would have shot it.
This.
edit - Glad it worked out, sad it was after your family and pets took some losses.
I had a neighbor with an aggressive dog. Well, it was actually his daughters and she'd dumped it on him. In any case, even though I was within city limits, if that dog ended up in my yard my plan was to exit my house carrying a bat and a pistol. The dog would get the bat once, and if it kept coming it would get the pistol. I've got NOTHING for a critter that comes at me or my family, or challenges me on my own property. The only reason to try the bat first is to appease the local cops and judge when they arrest me for discharging a firearm within city limits.
It never came to that... he left the dog out one night and it barked continuously from about 4 in the afternoon until 2am. At 2am I put on my fuzzy bunny slippers and walked around the block to his house and pounded on the door until he got up, then I politely yelled at him through his closed door to shut his dog up. After that the dog stayed in the garage until he got rid of it a few months later.
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I am not against shooting an aggressive animal by no means...but from the time that guy let his dogs out of his truck when they moved in they were aggressive...my neighbor and I tried to get his dogs to be ok with mine and tried to get them used to my daughter....like most loyal dogs when this guy was around his dogs were ok...wouldn't growl but you knew not to stick your hand down there...when dude was gone it was like what Caesar Millan The Dog Whisperer says "the dog has gone into predator mode" they would slink around in the tall grass...you would get that feeling...look up and there one of them would be...stalking you in the grass...real creepy...and my wife and I really do feel bad because he put them down...but bottom line is dude should have shot them suckers or put them in a kennel after they killed the cat...baby's Chihuahua doing good...she was outside yesterday acting like a dwarf pit bull with her hair stuck up in the air...
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I love dogs. I have two Bull Mastiffs and a mutt get treated like royalty. The last thing in the world I'd want to do is kill a dog. After reading what you described, I'd put them down.
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Puller....
I don't want to be disrespectful but basically you are prioritizing your neighbors dog(s) over your daughter, dog and cat. How lame can you be?! Why don't you just shoot your daughter and get it over with. Or, grow some balls and shoot your neighbors dog. This was lame the moment you started to type. Your ultimately responsibility is to provide and protect your family. You are in a gross state of failure.
:bhead :ahand
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Come on Boo, that's way too harsh man.
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Puller....
I don't want to be disrespectful but basically you are prioritizing your neighbors dog(s) over your daughter, dog and cat. How lame can you be?! Why don't you just shoot your daughter and get it over with. Or, grow some balls and shoot your neighbors dog. This was lame the moment you started to type. Your ultimately responsibility is to provide and protect your family. You are in a gross state of failure.
:bhead :ahand
This is what I was thinking... Would have worded it a little differently, but the point is established.
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Puller....
I don't want to be disrespectful but basically you are prioritizing your neighbors dog(s) over your daughter, dog and cat. How lame can you be?! Why don't you just shoot your daughter and get it over with. Or, grow some balls and shoot your neighbors dog. This was lame the moment you started to type. Your ultimately responsibility is to provide and protect your family. You are in a gross state of failure.
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I'm not even gonna go here dude...posting rules will get me...I had a nice rant typed out...Did you read my post?? I addressed your concern already...and you failed as a troll... :salute
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I was in the park the other day with Blitz, my 85 lb German Shepard. I had him on a 50' check leash and I saw a family with two young kids coming. I could see the parents were kind of anxious looking but as I always do I held up one hand and my dog sat down on the side of the path and didnt move until the family had passed and I allowed him to.
Ive gotten many positive comments on the level of training my 15 mo old dog has. I would not have a dog like that if I didnt have the knowledge to train him and have absolute control over him. Unfortunately owners like me are a rarity. You wouldnt believe some of the incidents ive had with knuckleheads and their knucklehead dogs. I just had one a week ago.
But I wouldnt shoot a dog unless I absolutely had to. A dog on someone elses land being a threat to anothers family or livestock should be shot. If he's just wandering and not being threatening I'd call the neighbor and give him a chance. Maybe ONE chance but I dont like shooting dogs. Dogs can get loose, get lost, and not be a threat to anyone.
I dont like to kill anything just cause i can.
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Everyone talks big until they have to pull the trigger. :old:
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Shoot the dog and throw it in the trash can :old:
You think to much :old:
Lot of that going about "thinking" :old:
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I dont like to kill anything just cause i can.
That's kind of the dilemma I was in...I had no desire to kill them just because I had the green light to do so...it actually made me more apprehensive...on a couple of occasions I had a bead drawn on the male dog...and each time I knew they wouldn't be one shot kills...I couldn't do it...
Many years ago there was a stray dog running around the neighborhood...now I was living around many people but in a country type setting...the outskirts of town...now this dog pissed me off for months...one of them ones you turn your back on and its on your heals...anyway I had my fill with him when he was trying to bite my neighbors kids (older)...so I loaded a single round into my .22 and had a couple in my pocket...had no desire to kill this dog either so a single well placed shot was my goal...I could get within 5 foot of the dog...I walked up to him with his normal bristling of hair and deep pissed off growl...he turned to walk off and I put one behind his ear...no more than 6 foot away...and I guess I failed to mention I had a crowd watching this debacle...instead of dying peacefully he went nuts...and the sounds he was making were terrible...oh no I have got to stop this....I reached into my pocket and pulled out the extra rounds I had...dummy me had not loaded the gun...one shot one kill...I dropped the first 2 I tried to chamber on the ground and jammed the 3rd...my hands were shaking terribly bad...I finally regained my composure and finished the deed...I felt so bad and it kind of haunts me to this day...that poor dog...since I've never made the mistake of using a small caliber round to put down anything...
So back from the mists of time...I could not imagine popping that dog and it running up the hill home to die on my neighbors porch....Hell...how could anyone in good conscience do that...that is being a cruel monster...
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Everyone talks big until they have to pull the trigger. :old:
That's right...and to dude who has so much problem with me not blasting them on site...did you see where I said my wife felt bad about my neighbor putting them down???...the dog wasn't going to get my child...his dogs were going to end up getting killed by my big dogs....
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Harsh?!
I've been spending a lot of time with young cadets and drill sergeants lately. A tough, in-your-face-love seems appropriate. It is simple, all compassion and being neigborly aside, what is being prioritized is simple.
As for pulling the trigger, the few times in my life where I've needed to for various reasons, it has not been a problem. It is all about doing what is right and proper, and expected. An aggressive animal going after the family - in a heart beat. I was raised by an old fashioned cop who has spent the last 30 years trapping animals in the high Rocky Mountains.
Trolling? I've never understood what that term means or how my response would fit any bill. You asked, I was painfully honest. God, Family, Country, neighbors ratty dogs come in real low on that prioritized list.
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Hard to do, but I'd side with the neighbor.
If you have calmly discussed the issue with him and he has given you the OK to protect your property and family (dogs and kittens included) then unfortunately, that dog needs a bullet.
I grew up on a farm and this is not uncommon. You're a better man than most for being hesitant in the face of potentially dangerous behavior and the blessing of the owner. Now if you were to put the dog down, just make sure it doesn't suffer. There's a big difference between putting an animal down and maiming/wounding it out of emotion or spite.
(losing livestock is an immediate bullet in my opinion because it WILL happen again, maybe a few chickens isn't the end of the world, but when you lose a new-born calf... we're talking your families livelihood)
He's given you the green light, time to go.
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A PETA solution:
Have your neighbor look at an electronic fence. Maybe the old dog just needs to learn the boundaries with some oomph! Sounds like you're being very cautious and reasonable about the situation to me. :aok
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"So back from the mists of time...I could not imagine popping that dog and it running up the hill home to die on my neighbors porch....Hell...how could anyone in good conscience do that...that is being a cruel monster..."
Not the dogs fault..so let us let it run amuck and damage our horse as it see's fit?? Really??
Sometimes you just haveto man-up and do what needs doing.
I'm sure you would dither your time away wringing your hands....which you did. You are fortunate beyond your ability to comprehend.
JGroth
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Years later I lived in Calif, near Mt Diablo...Large property owner I knew well had herds of white-faced Herefords on his prop that he breed. Expensive cows.
Suburbanites in valley would let Fido out at nite, to be with his buds.
He and his buds would form packs. These packs would range up on this mans property at nite, chasing and hamstringing calves and cows, sometimes killing the animal slowly by many bites. Hamstrung ones needed putting down, by this man when they were found.
In the morning they would go to there homes, were their fine owners would let them back in the house.
He lost several head this way.
He started waiting at nite in a jeep near his water tank, more than a mile from his property line, w/a calf tied out who would bawl most of the nite.
The dog pack would come, he'd flip on jeep's lites and shoot as many as he could til they scattered. Many had collars w/id's and address'.
The next day he would hand deliver the collar to the owners.
He was roundly vilified throughout the near communities, the authorities indicated he was w/in his rights.
Then came the morning when a pack of these 'pets' found a six year old boy in his yard, and killed him.
Was this man a monster?
In following months random dogs wandering about at nite became a thing of the past. Killing a boy was what it took??
JGroth
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There was a controversial case over here just recently where a farmer shot a dog dead while the dog was just standing a few feet away from its owner. Apparently over here any dog not on a leash is legal to shoot if it is on a farmers property or a potential threat to livestock. Made for an interesting debate in the local news media.
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Wow GS...years ago where I live now a man in his advanced years was shot dead by man who's dog he'd penned up, said dog was 'running dear' on old mans land...
Shooter of old man walked...
History of 'dog hunting' trumped??
I would have put that dog DOWN, I wouldn't have liked it, but I don't like having to put animals down...
That 'old man' advertised for owner...
I WOULD NOT HAVE...
JGroth
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Why did the shooter go free after killing the old man? :huh
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Btw, here's the case I mentioned...
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Everyone talks big until they have to pull the trigger. :old:
Not true. Some people pull the trigger and never say a word.
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Not true. Some people pull the trigger and never say a word.
More true words have never been spoken..
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I should have said "many people". :rolleyes:
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We had a dog that would get loose in our neighborhood and chase us when i was a kid. My dad went out with us when it was clear nothing was going to be done to keep it in its backyard, it caught a croquet mallet in the face. Never saw that dog again.
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"Feral" Dogs are another matter. You'll know a feral dog, or pack of them, when you seem them. And yes they are all over the country. They need to be put down and quickly. But the neighbors bird dog, or some kids schnauzer? Only a screwball would want to kill one for no reason other then he wormed out of a gate once.
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The position I'm in here kind of limits my courses of action when it comes to dealing with people...If I didn't work where I work...I would have blown both of his dogs away when the male dog first snarled at me...I assure you that...and not really worried about if they bled to death on his porch...but I can't be like that :angel:
Like I said the guy told me he would take care of it the first time they acted aggressive...and in the end he did...
Now...At no point in time since the guy built his house and moved in was I "wringing my hands" over these super aggressive, vicious pitcowbull dogs...and never once did I catch them in the act of anything except lurking in the tall grass NOT on my property...I'm pretty sure everybody saw the part where I wrote I knocked it upside the head with a piece of pipe when I called it to me and it thought it wanted some...both his dogs...the male and female...wanted nowhere near me after that...and when I would catch them lurking around...the pellets would fly...
I could not...in good conscience...shoot his dogs...did I want to?...of course...why didn't I then?...I couldn't...it would have been a bad deal for what I've got going on over here...
I guess I should have started the original post by saying..."I want to start this post by saying that I have to be very careful who I piss off in Wagoner County...Since I have a career here that involves the people...shooting the rich people's dogs is out of the question..."
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I guess I should have started the original post by saying..."I want to start this post by saying that I have to be very careful who I piss off in Wagoner County...Since I have a career here that involves the people...shooting the rich people's dogs is out of the question..."
Since your job is a secret, let me guess.
Guess #1: You're a pimp or a pusher and don't want to have to pay a posse to take the fall for you if you irritate the local gravy train? :devil
Guess #2: You're a pastor or other religious figure, and gotta turn the other cheek even if it means posting your daughter on the porch with a bb gun and waiting till your lapdog is a chew toy? :angel:
Guess #3: You sell used cars at the local Mercedes/Cadillac dealership and the cut you get on even one blinged out escalade more than pays for the little dog's vet bill and a box of BBs, and you're working a sale? :aok
'cause you've gone and brought it up to explain sittin on the fence longer than most would have, so now its all built up into a mystery.
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Yada yada yada....you are peeing your pants, and wringing your fingers trying to figure out how to defend your daughter.
America is increasingly faced with people unwilling to make the tough, though clearly, right choice. I hope you do the right thing but it's your family.
I'm out of this thread.
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First day that animal came out me aggressively on my property and I would have shot it.
This. I live in the country, and my dog runs around; however, he knows to stay in the yard (even though there are no neighbors).