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Title: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 02:21:29 PM
So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Latrobe on August 21, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
I've been spending my free time going to bars and trying to pick up chicks with "Hey girl! Did you know I had a 2.5 K/D ratio in Aces High 2?"





























It doesn't seem to work.  :( :o
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 21, 2014, 02:39:40 PM
So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.

And do this in a 109E too !

No one really dies and planes are free...well all you can auger for a small monthly fee anyway :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Wiley on August 21, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
I've been spending my free time going to bars and trying to pick up chicks with "Hey girl! Did you know I had a 2.5 K/D ratio in Aces High 2?"

It doesn't seem to work.  :( :o

Nonono... you're doing it all wrong.  Get the girl back to your house.  Take her to see your flight setup.  Take off into a red horde and kill a bunch of them, then land your 6 or 8 kills.  Then turn to her triumphantly and inform her she may have the privilege of servicing you now.

 :joystick:

Wiley.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: DubiousKB on August 21, 2014, 02:44:07 PM
..."Hey girl! Did you know I had a 2.5 K/D ratio in Aces High 2?"

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/202/566/boner.png)

you guys make me laugh...
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 21, 2014, 02:52:24 PM
I've been spending my free time going to bars and trying to pick up chicks with "Hey girl! Did you know I had a 2.5 K/D ratio in Aces High 2?"



Haha hahaha hahaha hahahha hahaha that is hilarious :rofl
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 21, 2014, 02:59:37 PM
Truth. But you also can't take with you heaps of supposed "honor", accrued while shooting at pixels.

I'm also pretty sure the LAST question any judge or gatekeeper who may exist on the Other Side would ask is "Did you always follow some imaginary and artificial rule code while playing Aces High?". Which is a very good thing for most players, including those who talk about such "codes" the most on this BBS. Otherwise, their eternities could get a bit...torrid.  :devil

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Zerstorer on August 21, 2014, 03:02:56 PM
Truth. But you also can't take with you heaps of supposed "honor", accrued while shooting at pixels.

I'm also pretty sure the LAST question any judge or gatekeeper who may exist on the Other Side would ask is "Did you always follow some imaginary and artificial rule code while playing Aces High?". Which is a very good thing for most players, including those who talk about such "codes" the most on this BBS. Otherwise, their eternities could get a bit...torrid.  :devil



 :lol  Touche....

So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.

Is this the new Rule #4 violation avoidance strategy?

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Volron on August 21, 2014, 03:04:24 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/202/566/boner.png)

you guys make me laugh...

 :rofl
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Copprhed on August 21, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
Truth. But you also can't take with you heaps of supposed "honor", accrued while shooting at pixels.

I'm also pretty sure the LAST question any judge or gatekeeper who may exist on the Other Side would ask is "Did you always follow some imaginary and artificial rule code while playing Aces High?". Which is a very good thing for most players, including those who talk about such "codes" the most on this BBS. Otherwise, their eternities could get a bit...torrid.  :devil


Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't
have a positive self image, and yo don't have the gumption to stick it out and solve life problems. You're most likely the one who will take the easy way out, and not take chances. Argue all you want, but words don't change reality.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 21, 2014, 03:28:23 PM
Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life,
Really? Have you done side by side testing of this, comparing people's real life to the game?  :D I'm thinking not.

The problem is that people make up some non-existent rules in their head, above and beyond anything the creator of the game built in, then when other folks who have never explicitly or tacitly agreed to this rule set in anyway don't follow them the would-be dictators of flying style wish to tar them with the brush of "dishonor". Now this thing is very convenient isn't it, being able to define any playing you don't like as "dishonorable"? Let me play that game: "From now on I am going to fly all sorties in the Val. Anyone flying other speedy, heavily-armed uber rides (Like the HurriI  :rofl ) is gaming the game and DISHONORABLE!!! Why? Because I said so!"

It isn't that personal honor isn't important, it is that personal honor is TOO important to be falsely used as a club in association with bull-excrement non-existent "codes" springing from the fevered imaginations of this game's more supercilious players.

Edit:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 03:30:04 PM

Is this the new Rule #4 violation avoidance strategy?


I don't play TheDamned's game with regularity, I like to keep my heart on my sleeve.

"Imustrunawayitus" struck, so I offer a cure with words of encouragement, you might learn something.

But I thank you for your 2cents, your back seat moderating is duly noted
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 21, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Running away protects the cartoon life and k/d... but not the score.

Sorry, just couldn't let that old misconception stand uncommented  :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
They all add up snail  :uhoh
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: ink on August 21, 2014, 03:41:52 PM
Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't
have a positive self image, and yo don't have the gumption to stick it out and solve life problems. You're most likely the one who will take the easy way out, and not take chances. Argue all you want, but words don't change reality.

QFT


Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Zerstorer on August 21, 2014, 03:46:57 PM
I don't play TheDamned's game with regularity, I like to keep my heart on my sleeve.

"Imustrunawayitus" struck, so I offer a cure with words of encouragement, you might learn something.

But I thank you for your 2cents, your back seat moderating is duly noted

Back seat moderating?  Nah...just a question / potential observation. And you are welcome! :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Ratsy on August 21, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
Cough*Cough*Boelcke's Dicta*Cough*Cough*Cough...

 :old:

  
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: 68Raptor on August 21, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
On the other hand...


Some of us play the game and like to add a bit immersion to it and pretend we are WWII pilots. Start ourselves out with an objective for that flight. Some of us may have just read a story about a WWII pilot and want to live in his shoes inside this game. There IS a whole historical side to this game for some of us. That side goes far beyond "the fight", the scores, the whines and trash talking. I think this play only for "the fight" chant has been around since the beginning of the game. I read some posts from early on that referred to that playing style as "Air - Quake". I don't believe many of the Air Quake players stick around for very long. This game does not lend itself to that constant, quick action that a game like Quake does. Try as you might.. they only thing that will happen is frustration.  
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 21, 2014, 04:10:26 PM
Hear ye, hear ye!
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Wiley on August 21, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't
have a positive self image, and yo don't have the gumption to stick it out and solve life problems. You're most likely the one who will take the easy way out, and not take chances. Argue all you want, but words don't change reality.

Ok...  Do you play any contact sports?  If you play football, you never tackle anybody?  If you play hockey, you never bodycheck people, right?  Because someone who'd do that on the field/rink obviously must do that off the field as well, right?  Either that, or your life must be chock full of assault charges what with the random tackling of people on the street.  That's the only way it can possibly be, right?

It is a game.  The only actual "rules" in this game are what's possible and what's impossible in the game.  Nobody loses anything other than pride getting shot down in this game, so why wouldn't you throw everything you have at the opponents?

It's side vs side combat, not an agreed upon duel.  That's what the arena is set up for, that is how people should play.

I limit myself by rarely taking the HO because it's stupid to fly into the other guy's guns, and I avoid green hordes unless there's a similarly sized opposing horde we're flying towards.  That's my 'code', that I don't intentionally try to put myself on the high numbers side of a gangbang, even though I occasionally wind up there.

Beyond that, I am going to use everything I have at my disposal to kill as many red guys as I can, and I expect them to be doing the same.  Anytime I don't jump in on a 1v1 or ask first it's because I choose to, not because it's the 'honorable' thing to do.  It's not my fault a loner dove into a sea of red and got slow under me.  If it's red, it should be dead.

Wiley.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Oldman731 on August 21, 2014, 04:17:22 PM
Nonono... you're doing it all wrong.  Get the girl back to your house.  Take her to see your flight setup.  Take off into a red horde and kill a bunch of them, then land your 6 or 8 kills.  Then turn to her triumphantly and inform her she may have the privilege of servicing you now.


Yup.  Always works for me.

AH is Manliness after all.  Spend some time reading the BBS, you'll see what I mean.

- oldman
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 21, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
Nonono... you're doing it all wrong.  Get the girl back to your house.  Take her to see your flight setup.  Take off into a red horde and kill a bunch of them, then land your 6 or 8 kills.  Then turn to her triumphantly and inform her she may have the privilege of servicing you now.


That's great advice, but how do I get a girl to my house in the first place?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: The Fugitive on August 21, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
Really? Have you done side by side testing of this, comparing people's real life to the game?  :D I'm thinking not.

The problem is that people make up some non-existent rules in their head, above and beyond anything the creator of the game built in, then when other folks who have never explicitly or tacitly agreed to this rule set in anyway don't follow them the would-be dictators of flying style wish to tar them with the brush of "dishonor". Now this thing is very convenient isn't it, being able to define any playing you don't like as "dishonorable"? Let me play that game: "From now on I am going to fly all sorties in the Val. Anyone flying other speedy, heavily-armed uber rides (Like the HurriI  :rofl ) is gaming the game and DISHONORABLE!!! Why? Because I said so!"

It isn't that personal honor isn't important, it is that personal honor is TOO important to be falsely used as a club in association with bull-excrement non-existent "codes" springing from the fevered imaginations of this game's more supercilious players.

Edit:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435)

They are not non-existent rules, they are also known by other names if it will help you..... Class, as in "That guy has class".... Integrity, as in that guy says what he does, and does what he says..... Honest, see integrity......  Reliability, he'll be there whether its in game or not.

These traits show up in the game easily for those who have them OUTSIDE the game. If your a dork outside the game, that most likely will show up in the game as well.

While this is "just a game" the real person shows through far more often than not. I've meet many players over the years and they have all been pretty much exactly just as they were in the game. Unless your playing as a "persona", and well if you are that pretty much answers the question of honor/class right up front.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: The Fugitive on August 21, 2014, 04:22:00 PM

That's great advice, but how do I get a girl to my house in the first place?  :headscratch:


Ask your wife to have her over for tea  :devil
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 21, 2014, 04:23:28 PM

Ask your wife to have her over for tea  :devil

Can't allow her any contact with the outside world. She might try asking for help or even just flee  :devil
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: 68Raptor on August 21, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
Take your laptop down to the local pub.. whip it out (the laptop) and start showing off your pie charts and post count.

Take your pick of the ladies lined up and tell her how much bigger everything is back at your place.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: 68Raptor on August 21, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
I was referring to the screen size being bigger of course.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Wiley on August 21, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
Can't allow her any contact with the outside world. She might try asking for help or even just flee  :devil

Failing that, chloroform works every time...  68Raptor's suggestion sounds promising too.

Wiley.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 04:33:11 PM
There is lot of reductio ad absurdum  going on in response to coppr's post  ( :uhoh mixed with  :lol )
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Wiley on August 21, 2014, 04:49:45 PM
There is lot of reductio ad absurdum  going on in response to coppr's post  ( :uhoh mixed with  :lol )

Whining about killing people by any means necessary in a game that is built around killing people by any means necessary is... well, kind of absurd.

Wiley.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
Not as absurd as you'd imagine.

Running away from fights to 10 friends or to ack or to extend until the fuel runs dry adds to the quality of gameplay?
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Wiley on August 21, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
Not as absurd as you'd imagine.

Running away from fights to 10 friends or to ack or to extend until the fuel runs dry adds to the quality of gameplay?

Diving into a crowd and expecting them to feel bad about not coming at you Chuck Norris enemy style is realistic?

Wiley.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 21, 2014, 04:55:17 PM
Running away from fights to 10 friends or to ack or to extend until the fuel runs dry adds to the quality of gameplay?


First, I doubt we could come up with a common definition of "quality gameplay" which everyone could agree to  :old:

Second, most of time I've been called out on 200 or by PMs for "lame gameplay (running)", I ran from "10 friends" of that honorable, manly enemy ;)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Copprhed on August 21, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
QFT



Miss ya ingame ink,  :salute
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
Diving into a crowd and expecting them to feel bad about not coming at you Chuck Norris enemy style is realistic?

Wiley.

Jumping on 1 with nothing in sight seem to bring about the whole crowd as they scream for their lives.


I doubt we could come up with a common definition of "quality gameplay" which everyone could agree to  :old:


What would happen in an aceshigh where everyone ran away from everyone else... Lets keep waiting shall we it wont be long as things devolve

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: ink on August 21, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
Miss ya ingame ink,  :salute


 :salute

thanx man...I miss flying with/against the good ones such as yourself......more then I realized I would.....


feel like a crack head when I look at my stick and peds.... :rofl
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Canspec on August 21, 2014, 05:13:40 PM
Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't
have a positive self image, and yo don't have the gumption to stick it out and solve life problems. You're most likely the one who will take the easy way out, and not take chances. Argue all you want, but words don't change reality.

This is absolute garbage...although you are entitled to your opinion.. :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: deadstikmac on August 21, 2014, 05:18:21 PM

I missed beating you face with my meathooks...more then I realized I would.....

feel like a crack head when I am playing with my stick.... ::snicker::




My face misses your fist sir... When your done with the hiatus I shall give you NO mercy!


Edited so I could add:

Ya Sissy 《middlefinger》
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Kruel on August 21, 2014, 05:23:36 PM
Not true at all. Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't
have a positive self image, and yo don't have the gumption to stick it out and solve life problems. You're most likely the one who will take the easy way out, and not take chances. Argue all you want, but words don't change reality.

Pfffft,

http://youtu.be/xr6J9N9DVFg
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Shifty on August 21, 2014, 05:29:27 PM
You can't take your ACM with you when you die either.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 21, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
you wait I'm rolling in my grave  :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: RotBaron on August 21, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
Lately it just helps to pick a fight with Rooks, they don't seem to use the horde just inside their own dar ring waiting to pounce strategy nearly as much lately, or if they actually venture into your dar ring only to turn and run to the wingmen in wait.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: zack1234 on August 21, 2014, 05:33:10 PM

 :salute

thanx man...I miss flying with/against the good ones such as yourself......more then I realized I would.....


feel like a crack head when I look at my stick and peds.... :rofl

We miss you :)
 
We miss your weapon :rofl
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: FESS67 on August 21, 2014, 05:36:54 PM
Imagine if golf was played in the same manner as AH MA arena......

Tiger Woods beaten by player ranked 200 spots below him....Tiger not happy so challenges the upstart to a 1 on 1 putting contest, first to 10 puts is obviously the better man.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 21, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
Your line of reasoning is essentially "They are not playing the way I want them to! Therefore I will smear them as being classless!" This is INCREDIBLY control-freakish and narcissistic.

I've seen lots of arena messages when I logged into the MA. Haven't seen a single one yet that said "Okay guys, from now on, no HOing, running, or picking." And when I suggested formal rules against such things :D , not a single person voted in favor of them, now did they?

So what you've basically got here is a vocal group of narcissists who don't seem to realize that their complaints are EXACTLY equivalent to some crackpot saying "I don't like bunting in baseball. It is completely allowed by the rules, but I don't like it, therefor it is dishonorable." Some players just make up rules that have neither been instituted by the game creator nor agreed upon by the player population, and then want to say anybody who doesn't follow them is dishonorable? Ridiculous.

I'll play that game a little just to show how ridiculous it is: All sorties must now be flown inverted. If you fly right-side up, you are "gaming the game" for an advantage over those of us who choose to fly inverted, and you're dishonorable!  :rofl

Actually that sort of behavior I'm discussing, what is worthy of being labeled utterly classless.

Also, if I assumed everyone was in life as they were in the game, I would pity then anyone who had to deal with someone so whiney, ineffective, and generally unhappy,  who thought they were in the right to excoriate anyone who didn't conduct themselves according to that person's every little preference.

See this here? This is classy behavior. Going by past observation, you would have ranted at Coaly on 200 for minutes for his "sin" of picking someone out of a 1v1 fight.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435)

They are not non-existent rules, they are also known by other names if it will help you..... Class, as in "That guy has class".... Integrity, as in that guy says what he does, and does what he says..... Honest, see integrity......  Reliability, he'll be there whether its in game or not.

These traits show up in the game easily for those who have them OUTSIDE the game. If your a dork outside the game, that most likely will show up in the game as well.

While this is "just a game" the real person shows through far more often than not. I've meet many players over the years and they have all been pretty much exactly just as they were in the game. Unless your playing as a "persona", and well if you are that pretty much answers the question of honor/class right up front.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: muzik on August 21, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Those who live a code of honor in a game are much more likely to follow that same code in life, they don't "game the game", their egos are more than likely much less over the top, and they don't RUN AWAY FROM THEIR PROBLEMS! How you act and believe in real life absolutely, without a doubt, is how you play games. If winning is your only source of self esteem, if running away to save your cartoon life is ok with you, you don't



I typically lean toward the OPs opinion, but you got a lot to learn about people and life.

It's a fantasy game, it hardly ever reflects real life.


Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: deadstikmac on August 21, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
My life can be taken, my honor I leave behind.

Death before dishonor.


 :airplane:~<Dahmer
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 21, 2014, 06:31:55 PM
Imagine if golf was played in the same manner as AH MA arena......

Tiger Woods beaten by player ranked 200 spots below him....Tiger not happy so challenges the upstart to a 1 on 1 putting contest, first to 10 puts is obviously the better man.

Actually it would be more like this...

Happy Gilmore has the longest drive in the world. But he has no short game, and gets beaten by peeps who do. Therefore he declares that golf should be *entirely* about who can drive the ball the furthest, and that anyone not playing the game by his vision is "dishonorable" and "classless".
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: The Fugitive on August 21, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Your line of reasoning is essentially "They are not playing the way I want them to! Therefore I will smear them as being classless!" This is INCREDIBLY control-freakish and narcissistic.

I've seen lots of arena messages when I logged into the MA. Haven't seen a single one yet that said "Okay guys, from now on, no HOing, running, or picking." And when I suggested formal rules against such things :D , not a single person voted in favor of them, now did they?

So what you've basically got here is a vocal group of narcissists who don't seem to realize that their complaints are EXACTLY equivalent to some crackpot saying "I don't like bunting in baseball. It is completely allowed by the rules, but I don't like it, therefor it is dishonorable." Some players just make up rules that have neither been instituted by the game creator nor agreed upon by the player population, and then want to say anybody who doesn't follow them is dishonorable? Ridiculous.

I'll play that game a little just to show how ridiculous it is: All sorties must now be flown inverted. If you fly right-side up, you are "gaming the game" for an advantage over those of us who choose to fly inverted, and you're dishonorable!  :rofl

Actually that sort of behavior I'm discussing, what is worthy of being labeled utterly classless.

Also, if I assumed everyone was in life as they were in the game, I would pity then anyone who had to deal with someone so whiney, ineffective, and generally unhappy,  who thought they were in the right to excoriate anyone who didn't conduct themselves according to that person's every little preference.

See this here? This is classy behavior. Going by past observation, you would have ranted at Coaly on 200 for minutes for his "sin" of picking someone out of a 1v1 fight.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435)


You really DO have a problem with reading comprehension don't you? My post had nothing to do with the OP, nor did it have anything to do with how people play the game. I quoted you DIRECTLY ......

The problem is that people make up some non-existent rules in their head, above and beyond anything the creator of the game built in, then when other folks who have never explicitly or tacitly agreed to this rule set in anyway don't follow them the would-be dictators of flying style wish to tar them with the brush of "dishonor"


....and posted about "honor" and "class".

Your film/screen shots certainly DO show a player with some honor, and some class. It wasn't you, but CoalCat showed a lot of class to apologized for picking you. You showed restraint by not blowing up at him for it.



...as for the OP, I don't like how some fly/play the game but I never have said anyone should play the game my way. I do however alway ask, and wonder, if your playing a combat game, why would you run away from combat?
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Latrobe on August 21, 2014, 08:28:14 PM
My life can be taken, my honor I leave behind.

Death before dishonor.


 :airplane:~<Dahmer

Wise words! Death before retreat! Die gloriously in a flaming ball of wreckage! Take your enemies down with you!  :devil :joystick: :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 21, 2014, 09:00:47 PM
If you are around long enough, and fly against the many different "characters" in the game, along with talking to them in game, on the phone, in person.... It is very easy to see and clarify the qualities and attributes / traits, of that individual....

Now, how one chooses to view and describe the way that individual presents themselves will most times fall in the following categories of either being/having or not!

.those categories are: Character - Integrity - Respectability - Class - Humble/Humility and some people/players would also include Honor

Not every single game player will acknowledge this, but the majorities do! and always have since my very first online experience in the early 90's....

One's true self actually does filter through while they are playing the game or posting on the boards!

Copprhed and Fugi do have some truth to their posts...

TC
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: muzik on August 21, 2014, 11:06:41 PM

Copprhed and Fugi do have some truth to their posts...


Living by some John Wayne "code" in a fantasy game does not equate to character, integrity or bravery in real life.


Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: guncrasher on August 21, 2014, 11:36:37 PM
So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.

I'll run if I feel like it.  you on the other hand may want to stop whining like a girly man when players dont play your way  :devil.



semp
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 22, 2014, 12:08:56 AM
You claim people who don't play a game by your preferences, pseudo-"rules" that they've never in any way agreed to fly by and which by no stretch can actually be considered the rules of the game, are dishonorable and classless. In point of fact, in making this silly claim YOU are the one who is dishonorable and classless, as well as pathologically controlling. Honor is too important a thing to be twisted into an excuse for narcissistic whiners to berate other players in an internet game.

Your film/screen shots certainly DO show a player with some honor, and some class. It wasn't you, but CoalCat showed a lot of class to apologized for picking you. You showed restraint by not blowing up at him for it.

If "picking" is wrong then honor and class is shown by not bloody well doing it, not by doing it and then apologizing for it afterwards. But since the notion of picking being "wrong" in a multiple bandit arena is absurd, he had nothing to apologize for, as I informed him. You would have likely gone on one of your patented "someone killed me in an unapproved manner" tirades that anyone who monitors 200 when you fly is familiar with.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BnZs on August 22, 2014, 12:12:55 AM
Living by some John Wayne "code" in a fantasy game does not equate to character, integrity or bravery in real life.
Absolutely true.

But I can't help but think being habitually unpleasant to other players in-game because they don't live by the particular fantasy-game code some espouse DOES say some things about THEIR character, and these things are not good.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 22, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
I've been spending my free time going to bars and trying to pick up chicks with "Hey girl! Did you know I had a 2.5 K/D ratio in Aces High 2?"

It doesn't seem to work.  :( :o

I once met a real life Hornet pilot and bragged to him that I used to be number one  in fighters and attack one tour in Aces High.  He wasn't very impressed either.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 22, 2014, 01:11:44 AM
Muzik, please note the fact that my post was talking about actual players "in real life" and comparing it to the way they play/respond in game and on the boards....

Thus the reason I typed only "some truth", which means I was not agreeing completely to each of their posts, only parts of them...

«§»

TC
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: nrshida on August 22, 2014, 02:25:12 AM
you wait I'm rolling in my grave  :old:

 :lol
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: NatCigg on August 22, 2014, 03:36:02 AM
So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.

109s are turn fighters!  :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: zack1234 on August 22, 2014, 03:52:49 AM
I have now have a compost bin in my garden :old:

I thank you :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: bozon on August 22, 2014, 04:19:10 AM
Quote
You can't take your score with you when you die

What?

I don't know about you but I am going to have my best tour score engraved on my tomb.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: CeeEff on August 22, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
If I understand this whole thread right and played by the rules many seem to think I should, this would be the most boring game in the world. No need for SA if nobody can attack me while I am attacking someone else because that makes them a picker. If I am in a fast plane and I want to take separation away from an A6 during a merge, I might as well just fly 10 feet off his wing because he cannot shoot me, that would be a HO.

Everybody might as well fly Zero's on the deck. Anything else is "Dishonourable".
I am a cartoon pilot, who would like to imagine myself as a real life WW2 pilot, flying to kill the red guy and fighting to stay alive.
I tend to fight to the death, but that is only because death comes so quickly to me. Probably a very good thing I am NOT a real WW2 pilot  :x.

All of that said, I also love taking off into the biggest red dar bar on the map, just to see what happens.

I suppose what I am saying here is, if you don't like the way I fly.......I hate that but.....
Oh well  :devil
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Iraqvet on August 22, 2014, 07:43:45 AM
Spot on with this:aok
Your line of reasoning is essentially "They are not playing the way I want them to! Therefore I will smear them as being classless!" This is INCREDIBLY control-freakish and narcissistic.

I've seen lots of arena messages when I logged into the MA. Haven't seen a single one yet that said "Okay guys, from now on, no HOing, running, or picking." And when I suggested formal rules against such things :D , not a single person voted in favor of them, now did they?

So what you've basically got here is a vocal group of narcissists who don't seem to realize that their complaints are EXACTLY equivalent to some crackpot saying "I don't like bunting in baseball. It is completely allowed by the rules, but I don't like it, therefor it is dishonorable." Some players just make up rules that have neither been instituted by the game creator nor agreed upon by the player population, and then want to say anybody who doesn't follow them is dishonorable? Ridiculous.

I'll play that game a little just to show how ridiculous it is: All sorties must now be flown inverted. If you fly right-side up, you are "gaming the game" for an advantage over those of us who choose to fly inverted, and you're dishonorable!  :rofl

Actually that sort of behavior I'm discussing, what is worthy of being labeled utterly classless.

Also, if I assumed everyone was in life as they were in the game, I would pity then anyone who had to deal with someone so whiney, ineffective, and generally unhappy,  who thought they were in the right to excoriate anyone who didn't conduct themselves according to that person's every little preference.

See this here? This is classy behavior. Going by past observation, you would have ranted at Coaly on 200 for minutes for his "sin" of picking someone out of a 1v1 fight.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365268.msg4860435.html#msg4860435)

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 22, 2014, 07:45:28 AM
I don't know about you but I am going to have my best tour score engraved on my tomb.


That's the spirit  :old:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Xavier on August 22, 2014, 07:55:02 AM
Score? You mean my endless bails?  :rofl
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: hotcoffe on August 22, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
personally i dont give watermelon about score, i die most of the time with kills on my plane... damn i died many times flying same plane more than 3 hours with lots of kills on it... but
some time its good to take just the single or couple kills you have and land them ...
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 22, 2014, 08:09:09 AM
personally i dont give watermelon about score, i die most of the time with kills on my plane...

Which significantly improves the k/h part of your score, which is at least as important as k/d. :)

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 22, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
I always try to get at least 4 kills before I either land or die. Most of the time when I get 4, if I'm not hurt and there are more badguys around, I'll will try to get at least 6. I've died too many times with 7 or more kills, but I'm just greedy and don't like to land with only 3 kills if I don't have too. Which is why I generally die a lot in the MA but still have a decent K/D
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 22, 2014, 01:46:54 PM
Score/rank is a true measure of a man.  The higher the score/rank, the better man you are than some poor low ranked shlub of a lesser man.

ack-ack
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 22, 2014, 02:39:37 PM
Score/rank is a true measure of a man.  The higher the score/rank, the better man you are than some poor low ranked shlub of a lesser man.

ack-ack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROehP8DVPM4
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 22, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
Why is there a hook in my mouth?

Fixed.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 22, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Fixed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2osUs_k-9w
so far so good so what
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 22, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
So stop running from a fight.  :old:

pffft girly men.

Stick it out, you might learn something other than saving your precious K/D dependant ego.

oops, I apologize for helping hijack your thread, Dolby!

but seriously, I never really cared about score.... yes I have messed around to see how the scoring and stats were tallied and to see what was the best course of action to get a higher ranking ( lower # ), but nothing more than that really..

Some do play for score and to get their name on the front page of Aces High website each monthly tour, but if they are having fun that way, who am I to criticize them?

It's all about the fight for me when I am in the MA  DA  or AvA arenas, and I got to be having fun, if not I would not still be here  :aok


TC
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: katanaso on August 22, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
oops, I apologize for helping hijack your thread, Dolby!

but seriously, I never really cared about score.... yes I have messed around to see how the scoring and stats were tallied and to see what was the best course of action to get a higher ranking ( lower # ), but nothing more than that really..

Some do play for score and to get their name on the front page of Aces High website each monthly tour, but if they are having fun that way, who am I to criticize them?

It's all about the fight for me when I am in the MA  DA  or AvA arenas, and I got to be having fun, if not I would not still be here  :aok


TC

To add to this, a long time ago, some of the best players in AW would just auger their planes when they were done shooting down their opponents.  More dogfighting for the time spent playing.

   

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 22, 2014, 04:14:59 PM


I typically lean toward the OPs opinion, but you got a lot to learn about people and life.

It's a fantasy game, it hardly ever reflects real life.




I think his point was how you treat people here would reflect on how you treat people in the real world.  I suppose you could argue its easier for the "real" person to show up behind the anonymity of the fantasy cartoon world as thera is no real conseqence for acting like an idiot and doing what you can to talk tough, disrupt and generally try and make those around you have less fun.  In the real world the chance of getting you block knocked off is much higher than in AH.  I'd suggest that those who act to disrupt in AH don't act that way in the real world knowing that there are real consequences, but that could be more from fear than from who they really are.

I do believe it's fair to say that those who treat people with respect here more than likely are respectful in the real world.  I'd also believe they are comfortable with who they are too.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Lusche on August 22, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
To add to this, a long time ago, some of the best players in AW would just auger their planes when they were done shooting down their opponents. 


Significantly improving their k/h while still retaining a reasonable k/d and k/s...
Oh the things people do for score.... :old:

 :noid


 :bolt:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: katanaso on August 22, 2014, 04:29:08 PM

Significantly improving their k/h while still retaining a reasonable k/d and k/s...
Oh the things people do for score.... :old:

 :noid


 :bolt:

No, it was to save $$$ and spend more time in fights.  We used to pay per hour back then!

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 22, 2014, 04:34:38 PM
To add to this, a long time ago, some of the best players in AW would just auger their planes when they were done shooting down their opponents.  More dogfighting for the time spent playing.

   



Some of us did it cause it's what we did best...and with style!   :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: katanaso on August 22, 2014, 04:36:24 PM
Some of us did it cause it's what we did best...and with style!   :)

And your G model is waiting in-game for you to do it some more. :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 22, 2014, 04:41:31 PM
And your G model is waiting in-game for you to do it some more. :)

Real life seems to be settling and I'm finding I'm paying attention here again.  Might just find some time for the old 38G in the not too distant future.  Clearly some of these guys are in need of a big slow doesn't care if he dies in his cartoon plane target :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: muzik on August 22, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
Muzik, please note the fact that my post was talking about actual players "in real life" and comparing it to the way they play/respond in game and on the boards....

Thus the reason I typed only "some truth", which means I was not agreeing completely to each of their posts, only parts of them...

Understood, but I disagree completely with it. You obviously arent making the same comparison he makes.

You are talking about how much of an [wowtheyreallydontwantmetotypethisword] someone is or isn't.

He is equating his cartoon bravery and careless guns blazing charge into fights, with real life responsibility and problem management.


I think his point was how you treat people here would reflect on how you treat people in the real world.  

His point was exactly what I just pointed out. He said absolutely nothing about treating people with respect or a lack of it.

I suppose you could argue its easier for the "real" person to show up behind the anonymity of the fantasy cartoon world as thera is no real conseqence for acting like an idiot and doing what you can to talk tough,

That's exactly what you could argue. You could also argue that just because someone happens to know how to act according to an ideal social standard on the webz, doesnt mean you wont see his mugshot on the six oclock news some day.

But again, that's not the point he was making.


thera is no real conseqence for acting like an idiot and doing what you can to talk tough, disrupt and generally try and make those around you have less fun.  

Sounds an awful lot like the intent of his comment.


In the real world the chance of getting you block knocked off is much higher than in AH.

And that fact wasn't enough to clue you that his chest thumping might be a little egocentric?


There are or have been real life military and commercial pilots in this game not to mention many other professions that require discipline and maturity. They spend their entire careers pounding careless and risky behaviors out of their psyche. They play how they feel like playing, and I'd lay down money that the majority of them fly like their life depended on it, not like some kid who thinks he's god's gift to flying because he plays a VIDEO GAME and doesn't have a clue how pathetic and worthless his uber reflexes are in split second crisis!  

Just saying.

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 22, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Muzak we clearly read it differently. Not worth debating it to be honest.  People will continue to play like they want to.  Should I get back in the game look low for a smoking 38G with either guns or engines blazing :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Oldman731 on August 22, 2014, 07:46:47 PM
Should I get back in the game look low for a smoking 38G with either guns or engines blazing


About time you came back, dude.

- oldman
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: muzik on August 22, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
Muzak we clearly read it differently. Not worth debating it to be honest.  People will continue to play like they want to.  Should I get back in the game look low for a smoking 38G with either guns or engines blazing :)

If your smoking, you look behind ya and Ill wave to ya.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Guppy35 on August 22, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
If your smoking, you look behind ya and Ill wave to ya.

Works for me :)
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: BaldEagl on August 22, 2014, 11:22:01 PM
You can't take your score with you when you die.

Yes you can.  That's just a joke the dead play on the living making you think you can't take it with you; sort of like Alt F4.

Imagine the fun!
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: guncrasher on August 22, 2014, 11:43:57 PM
your score is only good for 30 days.  heck most stores give you more time that that.


semp
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Debrody on August 23, 2014, 06:44:00 AM
Funny how "Zerstorer" is being sticky at Dolby for posting a dont run thread...

edit:
"If its not your suit... dont put it on!"
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Kirin on August 23, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
May I suggest to the OP to fly a faster plane?











 :bolt:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: LCADolby on August 23, 2014, 08:44:23 AM
Someone once suggested "RATO's on my Friedrich"!  :lol 
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Zerstorer on August 23, 2014, 10:11:11 AM
Funny how "Zerstorer" is being sticky at Dolby for posting a dont run thread...

edit:
"If its not your suit... dont put it on!"

Funny how Debrody follows me around like a cat. Get away man...your getting hair on my pant leg! :rofl  

Oh Deb...its not my suit. It isnt someone else's either. Keep sitting on the sidelines prejudging....its easier for you. :aok
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Debrody on August 23, 2014, 10:36:11 AM
Actually its quite interesting when you get caught on being a tard, instead of staying in silence, youre bringing it up to an other level.

Anyways, you would better run from any cartoon Dora - daddy is coming soon to show a trick or two.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: gpwurzel on August 23, 2014, 11:25:55 AM
Sigh, I can see I have to come back and show people how to die with grace and dignity. Downloading the game now, got a problem with my back, so may not play today, depends how it feels.

Easy kills coming back to the MA's.

Be gentle, I'm very rusty.

Wurz
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Zerstorer on August 23, 2014, 01:13:10 PM
Actually its quite interesting when you get caught on being a tard, instead of staying in silence, youre bringing it up to an other level.

Anyways, you would better run from any cartoon Dora - daddy is coming soon to show a trick or two.

Its interesting how you resort to high schoolish names when called out for your behavior.  :old:

Why would I run from a Dora? I fly a 110!

Looking forward to your lessons. I hope you enjoy tater salad...  :lol

Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 23, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
Sigh, I can see I have to come back and show people how to die with grace and dignity. Downloading the game now, got a problem with my back, so may not play today, depends how it feels.

Easy kills coming back to the MA's.

Be gentle, I'm very rusty.

Wurz

Awesome headlining news!!!!

is always great to see a post that someone is coming back, welcome back gpwurzel!


TC
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: McShark on August 23, 2014, 07:34:09 PM

 :salute

thanx man...I miss flying with/against the good ones such as yourself......more then I realized I would.....


feel like a crack head when I look at my stick and peds.... :rofl

Hope the stick wins  :D

 :pray

 :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Debrody on August 24, 2014, 12:56:29 AM
Why would I run from a Dora? I fly a 110!
The fact that you have never tried turning it doesnt mean that a Dora cannot outfly your 110 any day of the week.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Zerstorer on August 24, 2014, 01:15:28 AM
The fact that you have never tried turning it doesnt mean that a Dora cannot outfly your 110 any day of the week.

Heh...you keep thinking that, Sweety.  :lol  :aok
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: Debrody on August 24, 2014, 03:31:34 AM
Really wanted to say something safty, but that wouldnt make it any better. So... okay.
Title: Re: You can't take your score with you when you die
Post by: zack1234 on August 24, 2014, 04:18:46 AM
We miss you Debrody