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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rob52240 on October 01, 2014, 08:01:38 AM
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Amazon is now streaming the old Tom and Jerry cartoons. Unfortunately these cartoons which are fine for kids to watch come with a list of warnings because they glamorize smoking, violence and racism.
:furious
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQA_tOX9jE0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfEbnDeqpI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQA_tOX9jE0
Did I miss the racist part? :headscratch:
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What about a warning in case the word bacon is used in one of the cartoons? It would be a real shame if someone got offended.
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So just to be clear....
This is racist..
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_Vrvawu4CDno/Rm3NUJLeVII/AAAAAAAAAa8/LXUmHKYs240/s320/blacks02.jpg)
but this is not....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/White_chicks.jpg)
:headscratch:
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So just to be clear....
This is racist..
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_Vrvawu4CDno/Rm3NUJLeVII/AAAAAAAAAa8/LXUmHKYs240/s320/blacks02.jpg)
but this is not....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/White_chicks.jpg)
:headscratch:
How dare you! There is only one race that's racist. All the other races treat every other race equally with color-blind love and respect.
Could you imagine what would happen if a similar movie called Black Chicks were made? Civil War would break out.
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Amazon is now streaming the old Tom and Jerry cartoons. Unfortunately these cartoons which are fine for kids to watch come with a list of warnings because they glamorize smoking, violence and racism.
:furious
Loonie Toons is also a bit on the racist side, though I can't say I've ever seen any sort of racism in Tom and Jerry...
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Loonie Toons is also a bit on the racist side, though I can't say I've ever seen any sort of racism in Tom and Jerry...
The example in the video is more of a stereotype than racist idea.
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Racial stereotyping is racism, and in this case the racial stereotype is that of a "mammy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_archetype
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Racial stereotyping is racism, and in this case the racial stereotype is that of a "mammy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_archetype
The term is rarely used in contemporary times and is generally considered an ethnic slur in the United States yet in the American South it still remains (along with "Aunt" and "Uncle") a term indicating affection and respect.
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The term is rarely used in contemporary times and is generally considered an ethnic slur in the United States yet in the American South it still remains (along with "Aunt" and "Uncle") a term indicating affection and respect.
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You know what's funny, I don't think anyone considers it a racial slur. I have never even heard the term "mammy" used in my entire life. I think I will bow out of this thread now before I get into trouble. I have a feeling I'm on Skuzzy's naughty list anyway. :salute
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Well I, who's half a world away, knows the term. The last time I can remember hearing it used was in the Shatner Roast where Lisa Lampanelli used it against Nichelle Nichols. I love racist jokes and know some quite nasty ones myself, however I don't think they are particularly well suited for children's programming.
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Well I, who's half a world away, knows the term. The last time I can remember hearing it used was in the Shatner Roast where Lisa Lampanelli used it against Nichelle Nichols. I love racist jokes and know some quite nasty ones myself, however I don't think they are particularly well suited for children's programming.
Those shorts AREN'T children's programming. They were originally made as filler to entertain theater audiences between films, intercut with newsreels.
If they're treated as children's programming NOW it's because stupid people have decided that cartoon = made for kids.
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If they're treated as children's programming NOW it's because stupid people have decided that cartoon = made for kids.
^^^^ This...
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So just to be clear....
This is racist..
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_Vrvawu4CDno/Rm3NUJLeVII/AAAAAAAAAa8/LXUmHKYs240/s320/blacks02.jpg)
but this is not....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/White_chicks.jpg)
:headscratch:
First of all, this movie was released ten years ago. It would not be considered acceptable today. It's not really relevant.
Not that it was really considered acceptable back then, either:
"This film received poor reactions from critics. Rotten Tomatoes gives it an aggregate rating of only 15% based on 121 reviews. Film critic Richard Roeper put the film at #1 on his list of the worst films of 2004 amongst claims of (...) racism."
Second, I do not understand why you would say "this was acceptable in the 40's/50's/60's, why isn't it acceptable now?"
Think about what else was acceptable in the 40's, 50's and 60's.
We no longer base what's acceptable on what was acceptable in race relations the 40's, 50's and 60's.
For pretty good reason
Unless you're still really into Jim Crow
and sundown towns
and filling the Mississippi with corpses
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First of all, this movie was released ten years ago. It would not be considered acceptable today. It's not really relevant.
Not that it was really considered acceptable back then, either:
"This film received poor reactions from critics. Rotten Tomatoes gives it an aggregate rating of only 15% based on 121 reviews. Film critic Richard Roeper put the film at #1 on his list of the worst films of 2004 amongst claims of (...) racism."
Second, I do not understand why you would say "this was acceptable in the 40's/50's/60's, why isn't it acceptable now?"
Think about what else was acceptable in the 40's, 50's and 60's.
We no longer base what's acceptable on what was acceptable in race relations the 40's, 50's and 60's.
For pretty good reason
Unless you're still really into Jim Crow
and sundown towns
and filling the Mississippi with corpses
Are you trolling me or are you serious? Can you please quote me to where I said "this was acceptable in the 40's/50's/60's, why isn't it acceptable now?" I am not saying anything of that sort. I am saying that cartoon is NOT racist. Jerry found himself in a closet and needed to escape so he disguised himself with the materials he had available to him at the time so Tom wouldn't recognize him. How is that racist? It's a disguise. My point is, it is not any more racist than the entire movie produced by the Wayans Brothers which believe it or not (having never seen the film) I don't find it racist either. Its a freaking disguise. Who the F cares. People are too sensitive today and too eager to pull the race card. This world will be such a better place when we quit tip toeing around everyone and worrying about people getting hurt feelioma at the most irrelevant things. But since we live in this politically correct world everyone likes to play the victim that something offends them. Pull up your big boy or big girl pants and move on with your life. This carton and movie should have zero impact on anyone's day to day life. I grew up watching Tom and Jerry and I never ever had the slightest idea that they were "racist". It was a funny cartoon and nothing more. :old: :furious
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Are you trolling me or are you serious? Can you please quote me to where I said "this was acceptable in the 40's/50's/60's, why isn't it acceptable now?" I am not saying anything of that sort.
I apologize, I meant 'you' in a general sense (ihr/вы/whatever) not you in particular. Sorry, English can be clunky.
I am saying that cartoon is NOT racist. Jerry found himself in a closet and needed to escape so he disguised himself with the materials he had available to him at the time so Tom wouldn't recognize him. How is that racist? It's a disguise. My point is, it is not any more racist than the entire movie produced by the Wayans Brothers which believe it or not (having never seen the film) I don't find it racist either. Its a freaking disguise. Who the F cares. People are too sensitive today and too eager to pull the race card. This world will be such a better place when we quit tip toeing around everyone and worrying about people getting hurt feelioma at the most irrelevant things. But since we live in this politically correct world everyone likes to play the victim that something offends them. Pull up your big boy or big girl pants and move on with your life. This carton and movie should have zero impact on anyone's day to day life. I grew up watching Tom and Jerry and I never ever had the slightest idea that they were "racist". It was a funny cartoon and nothing more. :old: :furious
You're a person who doesn't have to deal with the ill effects of racial insensitivity and racism on a daily basis. That's okay, but please understand that a lot of people do, and it sucks. Just because you've never experienced it doesn't mean that it's fine. You're in a unique position. Please try to consider the people who aren't.
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I apologize, I meant 'you' in a general sense (ihr/вы/whatever) not you in particular. Sorry, English can be clunky.
You're a person who doesn't have to deal with the ill effects of racial insensitivity and racism on a daily basis. That's okay, but please understand that a lot of people do, and it sucks. Just because you've never experienced it doesn't mean that it's fine. You're in a unique position. Please try to consider the people who aren't.
Believe me I understand racism is alive and well today and frankly it will be until the end of time (as it has been since the beginning of time.) However, when you cry racism on every little thing you become like the boy who cried wolf. The examples in this thread are NOT racism. At most they are stereotypes and I hate to break it to you but stereotypes are based on reality. Are people really that sensitive that anyone not black portraying to be black offends them? I am being 100% serious here. Please do not confuse what I am saying. I am not saying racism does not exist or that it is acceptable, I am merely saying the cartoon in this example is not racism.
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We had some thing called "The Black and white Minstrals" in the 1960's and early 70's on British television.
They were a band blacked and playing banjo,s
The show stopped in the late 70's not because it was racist but because it was crap :old:
Tom and Jerry was crap as well
"Hong Kong Phooney" was awesome but might be deemed rasist and anti dog because he was portrayed as being stupid :old:
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Tom and Jerry was crap as well
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/143N8/you-take-that-back/image.png)
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Why can't the world be run by white men only again? It was a lot more fun for white men back then. Now it's racist this and sexist that. Sheesh.
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They have nothing on OHELL
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This is not going to end well.
Preemptive lock. The topic is not appropriate anyway.