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Title: Ki-44
Post by: Coalcat1 on October 02, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
I think it would make a nice addition to the game, it could climb well, was a small target, and had a decent armerment, examples being 4 12.7 MGs, 2 12.7 MGs and 2 20mm cannons, and some were fitted with 40mms along with the nose MGs. Some pics:
     (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Captured_Nakajima_Ki-44_in_flight.jpeg)
     (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Ki-44_%281%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Coalcat1 on October 02, 2014, 02:38:11 PM
Link with some more info on the plane, too lazy to post all of it ATM  :D
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,154461.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,154461.0.html)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Someguy63 on October 02, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
No thanks, no more helicopters in game.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Coalcat1 on October 02, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
No thanks, no more helicopters in game.
You're no fun, japs need 1 semi-uber plane...
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: bustr on October 02, 2014, 04:53:25 PM
Ki43\84 flaps. And Ki43 ailerons. Might be one squirrely little sake rocket. But, watching HTC over the years, Ki-44 IIc. Four Ho-103 12.7mm for our trouble, because earlier versions still used the type 89 telescope gunsight. Two more Ho-103 better than the Ki-43. Same gunsight as our Ki-43.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Slade on October 02, 2014, 05:01:54 PM
+1
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Arlo on October 02, 2014, 05:25:58 PM
You're no fun, japs need 1 semi-uber plane...

This get perked or eliminated from the plane set?

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/images/6/61/N1k2_3.jpg) (http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/N1K2-J)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Saxman on October 02, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
You're no fun, japs need 1 semi-uber plane...

The Ki-44 wouldn't be uber by any stretch of the imagination. Sub-400mph at best altitude, and unlike the other Japanese fighters not particularly maneuverable. It has an excellent rate of climb and good armament, but if the 40mm are modeled keep in mind their very poor muzzle velocity (800fps). It would be a modestly effective bomber interceptor, but is pretty thoroughly outlcassed by most single-engine fighters.

That said, this is a plane that NEEDS to be added for historical scenarios.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: MrKrabs on October 02, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
You're no fun, japs need 1 semi-uber plane...

How is the ki-84 not semi-uber? Prolly more scared of seeing those than any other silly plane in the mian...
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Dragon Tamer on October 02, 2014, 08:28:39 PM
How is the ki-84 not semi-uber? Prolly more scared of seeing those than any other silly plane in the mian...

I tend to have more issues with N1ks than Ki-84s. Both can still be a handful but the N1k seems to be more so in the hands of more people (easy mode?).
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 08:52:56 PM
I am more scared of N1K's guns than anything. They can literally get one gun solution and completely end your world out of pure luck.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Someguy63 on October 02, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
You're no fun, japs need 1 semi-uber plane...

Coalcat has obviously gone mad. :old:
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: HighTone on October 03, 2014, 07:35:02 AM
+1 for the Tojo  :pray
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 03, 2014, 10:12:19 AM
It's junk. I want it. Any idiot can fly a Spit XVI.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: wpeters on October 03, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
+1
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: ONTOS on October 03, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
+1 seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Aspen on October 03, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
+1  I want them all eventually. 
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: EagleDNY on October 03, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
The niche between the Ki-43 and the Ki-84 does not seem to me to be the best gap to fill in the japanese planeset.   
Truthfully I'd rather see the Judy or the J2M.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Wmaker on October 03, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
The niche between the Ki-43 and the Ki-84 does not seem to me to be the best gap to fill in the japanese planeset.   
Truthfully I'd rather see the Judy or the J2M.

I agree that Judy is the bigger gap in Japanese planeset but Ki-44 is far more important than J2M. It saw service in more units, larger numbers and longer than J2M.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Arlo on October 03, 2014, 01:16:54 PM
I agree that Judy is the bigger gap in Japanese planeset but Ki-44 is far more important than J2M. It saw service in more units, larger numbers and longer than J2M.

Attach a Sparviero rider to this bill and it gets my vote.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Wmaker on October 03, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
Attach a Sparviero rider to this bill and it gets my vote.

Why don't we let the threads to stay on topic instead of dropping "this is my own favorite -turd" to every topic?
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Arlo on October 03, 2014, 01:27:48 PM
Why don't we let the threads to stay on topic instead of dropping "this is my own favorite -turd" to every topic?

Relax, Francis. This is how players collaborate. Its quite on topic. :D
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Nefarious on October 03, 2014, 08:20:03 PM
+1

We should focus on the Japanese plane set for a few updates.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Hetzer7 on October 06, 2014, 09:50:07 AM
+1
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: bustr on October 06, 2014, 02:13:40 PM
Wonder if Waffle will accidentally post some previews of rides that might be released with AH3. I really want a J3 with a bazooka under each wing.

I think the Ki-44 will have an ankle biter niche in the MA. I can imagine a few players who would take advantage of that. It looks like it might fly like the La7, just slower, except in a dive and maybe in a zoom. Four Ho-103 will not make it a snapshot wonder.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Arlo on October 06, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
Wonder if Waffle will accidentally post some previews of rides that might be released with AH3. I really want a J3 with a bazooka under each wing.

I think the Ki-44 will have an ankle biter niche in the MA. I can imagine a few players who would take advantage of that. It looks like it might fly like the La7, just slower, except in a dive and maybe in a zoom. Four Ho-103 will not make it a snapshot wonder.

I have on unofficial lack of authority that this will be Italy's finest hour with the Sparviero and Falco leading the charge.  ;)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: pipz on October 06, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
I endorse this wish 100%.   :old:  :aok
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: icepac on October 06, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Flew it last night.........and it's not the end all late war monster but it does all things reasonably well and it has advantages over other planes in very specific parts of the envelope and, conversely, it has disadvantages in other places.

Great plane and fun to learn how to exploit it's strengths.

RE: Maneuverability..........the only japanese pilots who slagged it's turning had just gotten out of A6M2s and you heard the same complaints about other fighters like the J2M and even the KI84.

Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2014, 01:50:57 AM
RE: Maneuverability..........the only japanese pilots who slagged it's turning had just gotten out of A6M2s

Pilots would not have gone from A6M2s (a Navy plane) to the Ki-44 (an Army plane), but rather from the Ki-27 or Ki-43 to the Ki-44.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Wmaker on October 07, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
At 184kg/sqm, Ki-44-II has roughly the same wing loading as a Bf109G-2. I'm sure the combat flaps effectively reduce its turn radius like they do for the two other Nakajima fighters in AH.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: mbailey on October 07, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
This get perked or eliminated from the plane set?

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/images/6/61/N1k2_3.jpg) (http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/N1K2-J)

No.....it burns way to nice to get rid of it  :D
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Arlo on October 07, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
No.....it burns way to nice to get rid of it  :D
   :D
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 08, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
Pilots would not have gone from A6M2s (a Navy plane) to the Ki-44 (an Army plane), but rather from the Ki-27 or Ki-43 to the Ki-44.

Yes, but then Icepac's point would still stand, given that either of the earlier ki's you cite have very high turn rates.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: icepac on October 09, 2014, 09:58:49 AM
Pilots would not have gone from A6M2s (a Navy plane) to the Ki-44 (an Army plane), but rather from the Ki-27 or Ki-43 to the Ki-44.

Yeah......got my navy and army planes mixed up.

Still......those pilots who complained came from the two most maneuverable japaneses of the war.

It doesn't mean the KI44 is a pig.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Helm on October 10, 2014, 01:57:08 PM
I vote yes!!


Helm...out
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Slash27 on October 15, 2014, 09:09:29 PM
Flew it last night.........and it's not the end all late war monster but it does all things reasonably well and it has advantages over other planes in very specific parts of the envelope and, conversely, it has disadvantages in other places.

Great plane and fun to learn how to exploit it's strengths.

RE: Maneuverability..........the only japanese pilots who slagged it's turning had just gotten out of A6M2s and you heard the same complaints about other fighters like the J2M and even the KI84.


Flew what?