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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JOACH1M on October 06, 2014, 11:46:31 PM
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I have a buell 1125r that I rode once and decided I'm not cut out for motorcycles lol
Clean, fast bike!
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Always liked the idea of a Bell, they are pleasantly quirky. I'll have it if you want rid. Just drop it off any time.
Why are you quitting bikes if you don't mind me asking? How long have you been riding? Did you have a scare?
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Always liked the idea of a Bell, they are pleasantly quirky. I'll have it if you want rid. Just drop it off any time.
Why are you quitting bikes if you don't mind me asking? How long have you been riding? Did you have a scare?
Hehehe small delivery fee :)
and I ride dirt bikes and snowmobiles and i gave street bikes a try... I have been riding off road dirt bikes all my life, yes the scare was being able to do 100mph in second gear LOL
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yeah see, picking an unfaired bike with....is that seriously a single front disc?! And that rear sprocket looks almost as big as the wheel, the front cog must have about 3 teeth on it.
Wrong bike for going fast on, however you look at it. Try a middleweight Jap bike, CBR600 or something you can really throw around like one of those Italian 250s. If ya dont wanna spend much, an old KR-1S or RGV250 are stupid amounts of fun.
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Before you get rid of the Buell,you may want to look into all the class action suits against Buell.
This is not a bike for a first time rider,I'm talking about street riding as dirt has little to do with riding on the street! Sure the experience of dirtbiking can help develope riding skills but it's those 4 wheeled vehicles that cause the biggest difference.
You would have been better off getting something less than a 3/4 liter bike! Atleast untill you have 10 or 20 thousand miles of road experience.
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What Morph said. That's a silly bike at the best of times, for a new road rider it could well be lethal.
That's a 1,100cc rotary engine, right? Basically a very slightly smaller version of what Mazda used to put in the RX-7. It's got no fairing to deflect wind, it's got a single front disc (cannot convey just how nuts that idea is), weird ratios and....to me anyway, the rake and trail doesn't look right. I bet that thing is a b*tch to get to turn.
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What Morph said. That's a silly bike at the best of times, for a new road rider it could well be lethal.
That's a 1,100cc rotary engine, right? Basically a very slightly smaller version of what Mazda used to put in the RX-7. It's got no fairing to deflect wind, it's got a single front disc (cannot convey just how nuts that idea is), weird ratios and....to me anyway, the rake and trail doesn't look right. I bet that thing is a b*tch to get to turn.
Actually swoop that's either a rotax Vtwin or a harley...... the rotax version that buell builds has almost 180rwhp!
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PS: that's a belt drive,the reason it has such a large pulley out back,IIRC it uses a 13 cog front!
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Nice bike. I'd prefer a Triumph Daytona though. :aok
Good luck with your sale.
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PS: that's a belt drive
Nooooooo....! Really?! Christ alive. The last bike I saw a belt drive on was a GPz305 in 1990.
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That's def not the Harley motor, must be a Rotax.
So....180bhp, no fairing, a single front disc and belt drive. Do Buell salesmen stand out in front of showrooms waiting for people who look kinda depressed and suicidal....or just one's with SUCKER written on their foreheads?
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It is belt driven and it is the V-twin rotary motor. Tons of torque lol
The front brake is massive in comparison of the rear, never had an issue with stopping the bike.
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Nooooooo....! Really?! Christ alive. The last bike I saw a belt drive on was a GPz305 in 1990.
Plenty of harleys have belt drive!
If it's the rotax,it's pretty much the same motor that KMT has,the spyder uses a slightly smaller less powerfull version of the same unit. The rotax 990 gets punched out to 1100 cc and a few other little bits done to it. They are great motors until you have a problem...... :devil
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PS: just checked the specs,it's the 120 hp version of the halcion motor!
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Beautiful bike/color, mang.
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Plenty of harleys have belt drive!
If it's the rotax,it's pretty much the same motor that KMT has,the spyder uses a slightly smaller less powerfull version of the same unit. The rotax 990 gets punched out to 1100 cc and a few other little bits done to it. They are great motors until you have a problem...... :devil
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PS: just checked the specs,it's the 120 hp version of the halcion motor!
There is an ecm tune on it bumps it to ~150hp
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That's def not the Harley motor, must be a Rotax.
So....180bhp, no fairing, a single front disc and belt drive. Do Buell salesmen stand out in front of showrooms waiting for people who look kinda depressed and suicidal....or just one's with SUCKER written on their foreheads?
Rim brakes are sufficiently powerful as to only need a single disc. Imagine spinning a cycle wheel then grabbing the tire to stop it,
Compare that with sticking your fingers in the spokes near the hub
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Unless you have seen this bike run on a Dyno I wouldn't believe any of the horsepower claims. Buell motorcycle's are complete and utter crap.
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Unless you have seen this bike run on a Dyno I wouldn't believe any of the horsepower claims. Buell motorcycle's are complete and utter crap.
IMO Track times will be a better indicator of power.
Dyno's will give you different numbers everywhere u go
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There is an ecm tune on it bumps it to ~150hp
Yes I know they even have a version with a claimed factory HP of 146!
I know rotax make a version of that motor that is supposed to put out about 180hp,I just wasnt sure whether buell used that version or not,Rotax make 5 or 6 different versions from 990 to 1100cc.
As I said they are nice motors,until you have an issue.
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Yes I know they even have a version with a claimed factory HP of 146!
I know rotax make a version of that motor that is supposed to put out about 180hp,I just wasnt sure whether buell used that version or not,Rotax make 5 or 6 different versions from 990 to 1100cc.
As I said they are nice motors,until you have an issue.
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i have honestly road the bike like 10 miles and put it for sale. There is nothing wrong with it. Had it checked over before I bought it lol
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Unless you have seen this bike run on a Dyno I wouldn't believe any of the horsepower claims. Buell motorcycle's are complete and utter crap.
they seem to hold their value well for complete and utter crap. Any idea why?
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they seem to hold their value well for complete and utter crap. Any idea why?
i don't see what's very crappy about this bike...
I worked for a Honda, Ktm, yamaha, Kawasaki, dealer for over 2 years.
You should she some of their stuff. :lol
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They lose 50% of their value in 4 years compared to a Honda losing 30% in the same amount of time. Not exactly resplendent in their holding of value. What did you do when you worked at that dealership Joachim?
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They lose 50% of their value in 4 years compared to a Honda losing 30% in the same amount of time. Not exactly resplendent in their holding of value. What did you do when you worked at that dealership Joachim?
I did unit assembly (assembling them brand new) and also service tech.
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If anyone from Buell is reading, or indeed anyone who believes Buell......a single large diameter disc will provide as much braking force as two normal sized discs. However, with prolonged use under high performance conditions....my twin disc ZX-10R will dissipate more heat than your poxy single disc and carry on working longer. I'll also have more stability when braking while tipping in for a turn. I would also argue that twin discs give more feel.
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I have WP's on my VTR, they would stop a train with one finger, I would like a rim disc on the ST1100 to offset the shaft drive torque
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I have a buell 1125r that I rode once and decided I'm not cut out for motorcycles lol
Clean, fast bike!
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lol sounds like you have the same problem I had riding my friends Hayabusa..... I've riden on the road for close to 20 years but the man that is way too much motorcycle for me I'd just kill myself on it, the power to weight and acceleration Wow scary fast. I'll stick with the HD
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I don't understand, I owned a Honda Blackbird, ZZR1100, ZZR1200, CBR1000, I have ridden Hyabusa's, all of which are.controlled by throttle,clutch, gears and brakes. The throttle sets the power, the clutch sets how.much.power.makes it through to the final drive. I don't see how you could be more scared on one than the other. Every aspect of performance is controlled by the.rider. A Hyabusa will do 5mph, as easily or more easily than it'll do 185 :headscratch:
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I don't understand, I owned a Honda Blackbird, ZZR1100, ZZR1200, CBR1000, I have ridden Hyabusa's, all of which are.controlled by throttle,clutch, gears and brakes. The throttle sets the power, the clutch sets how.much.power.makes it through to the final drive. I don't see how you could be more scared on one than the other. Every aspect of performance is controlled by the.rider. A Hyabusa will do 5mph, as easily or more easily than it'll do 185 :headscratch:
I agree completely. I personally think high performance sportbikes are the safest bikes to ride. They stop turn and go faster, all of which can help you miss what you do not want to hit. I also like the riding position on sportbikes because they put you in the best position for control. Sportbikes are "Form Follows Function", cruisers.............not so much.
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I don't understand, I owned a Honda Blackbird, ZZR1100, ZZR1200, CBR1000, I have ridden Hyabusa's, all of which are.controlled by throttle,clutch, gears and brakes. The throttle sets the power, the clutch sets how.much.power.makes it through to the final drive. I don't see how you could be more scared on one than the other. Every aspect of performance is controlled by the.rider. A Hyabusa will do 5mph, as easily or more easily than it'll do 185 :headscratch:
I totally agree with everything you said there that being said it would come down to self control of myself doing something stupid just having that much power to weight would get me to stupid way too fast. no doubt sport bikes are a kick to ride that's for sure just not for me at my age now I guess.
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lol sounds like you have the same problem I had riding my friends Hayabusa..... I've riden on the road for close to 20 years but the man that is way too much motorcycle for me I'd just kill myself on it, the power to weight and acceleration Wow scary fast. I'll stick with the HD
Yeah the power to weight ratio was enough to make me think twice going over 75% throttle.
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I agree completely. I personally think high performance sportbikes are the safest bikes to ride. They stop turn and go faster, all of which can help you miss what you do not want to hit. I also like the riding position on sportbikes because they put you in the best position for control. Sportbikes are "Form Follows Function", cruisers.............not so much.
I agree with Danny, and agree with this as well. For defensive riding/driving, nothing outperforms a good sport bike, especially in braking. I rode dirt bikes from single digits age right up to about now, as well many sport bikes from my first VFR 750 in 90 or so, and every Honda sport bike along the line, the first CBR 900 as well many others, and got into cruisers in the mid 2000s and rode a Harley Fat Bob as well as a Harley Ultra Classic. If I was in a crisis/emergency road situation, I'd take a sport bike any day. Only possibly a dual sport dirt bike is more maneuverable and quicker to stop on pavement, and that's even debatable.
I really like the Vtwin in a sport bike combo, I haven't ridden a Buell in years, when they first came out at "Harley Days" I think, but one of my favorite bikes, one of the few I've kept when "trading up" for the new model year, is my Honda Firehawk. I've had a 98 and a 2004, one of the last model years, and kept the 04, although I usually ride either our VFR or CBR1000 when sport biking about, I still really like that 1 litre v twin Honda motor for longer range rides when I have no passenger (wife) and don't want to ride a heavy cruiser/highway bike. Something about the torque and how the motor likes to hum along at about 110km/h or 70 ish mph...like I said, it isn't as nimble as the many other sport bikes I've ridden, but it has bundles of torque to spare.
Don't quit street riding Joeacheem, I too started out on sleds and dirt bikes, and went from my CR250 right to the first year Honda ever built a VFR 750 for my first road bike. Just "be aware" and watch for cars turning left in front of you, and you'll be fine. Do what some others suggested, and try a different style bike - I always found Buell to have an odd riding position - many suggested 600 sized sport bikes, and I too agree with that, they're prefect for your size/weight. IMO you'll truly regret giving it up, one single 10 minute ride shouldn't decide the rest of what could be a long life of riding in that open air.
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Gman, i hear ya on V-Twin sportbikes mate. I had a RC51 back that was a bit overweight but the handling and the torque more than made up for it. The sound it made with some pipes and those gear driven cams was just a dream come true. Hotter than hell when stopped at a light in Phoenix but once you were rolling again the sweat quickly evaporated. Early VF R's also had gear driven cams, very disappointed they didn't bring them back with the 2014 VFR 800's but it is an expensive system.
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Guys might want to check the swept area of the rotor a single large rotor vs two small ones.
You might be surprised.
Also.......rotor diameter has a big effect on braking ability.
Do the math before slagging.
I made the same decision long ago after owning a H2 widowmaker, an r5, and a rd400.
I just don't feel my thinking patterns mesh well with motorcycles.
Don't think I don't have the stones to bike because I surely can ride and I doubt anyone here has driven a car within 50mph of my highest speed driven.......which could likely be pushed up another 40 or 50mph in a few months.
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I don't understand, I owned a Honda Blackbird, ZZR1100, ZZR1200, CBR1000, I have ridden Hyabusa's, all of which are.controlled by throttle,clutch, gears and brakes. The throttle sets the power, the clutch sets how.much.power.makes it through to the final drive. I don't see how you could be more scared on one than the other. Every aspect of performance is controlled by the.rider. A Hyabusa will do 5mph, as easily or more easily than it'll do 185 :headscratch:
I agree completely. I personally think high performance sportbikes are the safest bikes to ride. They stop turn and go faster, all of which can help you miss what you do not want to hit. I also like the riding position on sportbikes because they put you in the best position for control. Sportbikes are "Form Follows Function", cruisers.............not so much.
3rded.
Oh sorry, 4th...no 5thted. A modern superbike is the pinnacle of motorcycle technology, built to handle, stop and go as well as possible. I tour on a superbike. I commute on a superbike. Pootling along at 30mph in traffic is perfectly safe and I haven't had a bike decide to leap out of my hands in many years.....just remember not to run over a speed bump in first gear and you'll be fine.
Ice, I'm willing to bet I've ridden a bike well within 50mph of your car top speed....
And re: diameter. Of course disc (it's a disc, not a rotor, helicopters have rotors - must be a Yank thing) diameter makes a difference, hence why I state a single large diameter disc will provide as much braking force as 2x320mm discs. However, twin discs will dissipate more heat than a single, therefore the single disc setup will work as well as a twin once....after the first corner the twin has the advantage.
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Hasn't the rim disc a greater surface area or at least an equivalent surface area to each standard disc?
Two discs will surely cool down at the same rate as one disc or 10 discs, bearing in mind thatthe separation between them.
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I guess those bikes are nice if one likes humping a 'gas tank'. :devil
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Hasn't the rim disc a greater surface area or at least an equivalent surface area to each standard disc?
Two discs will surely cool down at the same rate as one disc or 10 discs, bearing in mind thatthe separation between them.
Brake cooling is all about air flow, there's no such thing as liquid cooled brakes on a bike. :). Two discs get around 1.5x the airflow a single disc gets, so even though the total surface area of a large single disc may be the same, the cooling isn't.
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P.S. Of course, this is kinda academic if the bike is never used on a track. Normal daily riding won't cause enough brake heat to cause fade anyway....unless, of course, you're a complete nutter.
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i don't see what's very crappy about this bike...
I worked for a Honda, Ktm, yamaha, Kawasaki, dealer for over 2 years.
You should she some of their stuff. :lol
I know. I like Buells. I was looking at them last year and was surprised at how well they hold their value.
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That's interesting. One fella saying how a Buell will lose way more value than a Honda over the same period and another saying how well he sees Buells value holding.
One of these people hasn't got the right facts....but which one?
Tune in next time folks for the exciting conclusion to "My bike's better than your bike cos it's got more discs - o'rama"
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Right i,ve done the science i wont bore you with details (most of you wouldn,t get it any way )
Swoop is right (through gritted teeth) 2 discs have a larger surface area whilst having the same mass therefore dissipate heat more efficiently
So unless it is a ceramic disc Big bike + single disc = smelly brown stain pants for all the wrong reasons
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Right i,ve done the science i wont bore you with details (most of you wouldn,t get it any way )
Swoop is right (through gritted teeth) 2 discs have a larger surface area whilst having the same mass therefore dissipate heat more efficiently
So unless it is a ceramic disc Big bike + single disc = smelly brown stain pants for all the wrong reasons
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Swoop was also correct when he said that he was referring to track use only, not to road riding, I have ridden bikes of all sizes but mostly large capacity sports bike for 20 years and the number of "heroes" that ride bikes increases exponentially year on year, I had some numty tell me that he got his exhaust down in a right hand corner on an RVF750!!!!
Personally I grind down my footpegs, kneesliders and exhausts so i look like i know that i have a vague concept of what I am doing :D
BTW Marquez learned everything about elbow sliding from me (I did it once at Donnington Park, albeit the bike was on top of me and the tires were higher at that point than my very warm arse, but still :old:
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Swoop........you will have to have gone over 200 to get within 50 mph of what I've done in a car.
If things work out and I get to drive our fastest car the next time we run it, you will likely need I have gone over 250 on a bike to be within 50 mph.
You guys are probably right about the twin disc having more surface area but it I don't see anyone here who has addressed the fact that a larger diameter disc requires less from the pads to supply the retardation to the wheel as a smaller diameter disc.
How are the buells doing in racing with the single disc?
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Right i,ve done the science i wont bore you with details (most of you wouldn,t get it any way )
Swoop is right (through gritted teeth) 2 discs have a larger surface area whilst having the same mass therefore dissipate heat more efficiently
So unless it is a ceramic disc Big bike + single disc = smelly brown stain pants for all the wrong reasons
Why not try us, we dribble on ourselves occasionally but are a reasonable learned lot in the most part :old:
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Swoop........you will have to have gone over 200 to get within 50 mph of what I've done in a car.
If things work out and I get to drive our fastest car the next time we run it, you will likely need I have gone over 250 on a bike to be within 50 mph.
You guys are probably right about the twin disc having more surface area but it I don't see anyone here who has addressed the fact that a larger diameter disc requires less from the pads to supply the retardation to the wheel as a smaller diameter disc.
How are the buells doing in racing with the single disc?
Well I've seen the limiter on a ZZR1200 so not too far off, driving fast in a straight line can pretty much be accomplished by a 10 yr old, that's not to say you're not amazing
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Well I've seen the limiter on a ZZR1200 so not too far off, driving fast in a straight line can pretty much be accomplished by a 10 yr old, that's not to say you're not amazing
Agreed,the most scared I ever was on a bike was at around 65 to 75 mph! I was much like you Danny except it was my ear that was closest to the ground,good thing the helmet took the brunt of the grinding.... :devil
Come to think of it the RD only had a single front disc,hmmm maybe thats why I took the spill.....Nah was a case of OA..... operator abuse... Seems a single disc can lock the front tire,doesnt help when your leaned over 45 degrees or so!
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Swoop........you will have to have gone over 200 to get within 50 mph of what I've done in a car.
202mph.
Ok, so...just.
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I'm only asking 5200$ american Bills:)
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Trade it Joe a Cheem. Seriously, take it to a good bike shop in your area and get something else and keep riding, if it doesn't sell.
Zoney, I had an RC51 as well, the Firehawk/VTR and the RC51 had quite a few similarities, so I rode an RC51 for a single season. Great bike, a louder, faster, more aggressive version of more docile Firehawk. Great bike, brings back good memories.
I'm very jealous of those who have a year long riding season, if I lived in the UK I would absolutely ride as much as possible, and travel to the continent to do the same.
What do you guys think of some of the newer electric powered bikes coming along? Jay Leno's car channel on youtube has featured many. I think it's a kinda neat new tech, having such a quiet bike with that instant power and torque that an electric motor can provide. I would never want to give up gas powered bikes, but having an electric road, and even dirt bike, is kind of appealing to me, for that incredible instant power, and the intriguing new tech of the regen brakes and decel, and other such cool stuff. If they make a good sport bike that has 200 km range, is fast to charge (say an hour or two), and has that insane instant power and such, I'll buy it. Some of the newer models being tested have a 5 or 6 speed trans just like modern sport bikes, many also have that single gear, sometimes two, like many electric sports cars. I'd be fine with both, so long as the above conditions could be met, which means I could cruise to a place on the highway, and not have to wait 1/2 a day to recharge and come home, it would be about the same time spent as my gas bike would be so long as the charge could be rapidly done in an hour or two.
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Trade it Joe a Cheem. Seriously, take it to a good bike shop in your area and get something else and keep riding, if it doesn't sell.
Problem is i traded a 06 f350 for this bike, mind you i only bought that ford for 2500$ put 300 in it and made it run. lol
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Trade it Joe a Cheem. Seriously, take it to a good bike shop in your area and get something else and keep riding, if it doesn't sell.
Zoney, I had an RC51 as well, the Firehawk/VTR and the RC51 had quite a few similarities, so I rode an RC51 for a single season. Great bike, a louder, faster, more aggressive version of more docile Firehawk. Great bike, brings back good memories.
I'm very jealous of those who have a year long riding season, if I lived in the UK I would absolutely ride as much as possible, and travel to the continent to do the same.
What do you guys think of some of the newer electric powered bikes coming along? Jay Leno's car channel on youtube has featured many. I think it's a kinda neat new tech, having such a quiet bike with that instant power and torque that an electric motor can provide. I would never want to give up gas powered bikes, but having an electric road, and even dirt bike, is kind of appealing to me, for that incredible instant power, and the intriguing new tech of the regen brakes and decel, and other such cool stuff. If they make a good sport bike that has 200 km range, is fast to charge (say an hour or two), and has that insane instant power and such, I'll buy it. Some of the newer models being tested have a 5 or 6 speed trans just like modern sport bikes, many also have that single gear, sometimes two, like many electric sports cars. I'd be fine with both, so long as the above conditions could be met, which means I could cruise to a place on the highway, and not have to wait 1/2 a day to recharge and come home, it would be about the same time spent as my gas bike would be so long as the charge could be rapidly done in an hour or two.
I am very interested in the elecrtric Mission sportbike...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/emergingtech/electric-motorcycles-rev-up-design-and-performance-wphotos/2679 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/emergingtech/electric-motorcycles-rev-up-design-and-performance-wphotos/2679)
However, the price tag is a bit excessive... if/when it comes down I may have another look. I jsut cannot justify spending almost double what I paid for my Ducati 1199, for similar, if not less, performance.
As far the the Buell goes, yea, they are not anywhere near the top dog of Sportbikes, I would HIGHLY recommend a CBR 600, or Ninja ZX-6, or hell, any of the japanese 600cc class sportbikes, before you give up. That being said, I would never force anyone to ride who wasn't comfortable with it, but, at the same time, I would hate for someone to miss out ont he pure joy and freedom that being on 2 brings simply because of a poor choice in machine. My riding buddies and I call riding "2 wheel therapy" and it truly is... "For most people there are counselors, for some of us there is riding"....
As far as brake fade, yes, brake fade is a HUGE factor on the track, not so much around town though. The large single disc should be fine around town, but the dual disc on my, and almsot every other sportbike out there, is there for a reason, improved cooling airflow, and reduced brake fade. The singe large disc may have as much, or even MORE stopping power than the dual, but it will fade quickly under aggressive riding. Also, keep in mind, that single oru double, most of the time, your stopping power is limited not by your brakes, but by that front tire. Either design should and can in most circumstances, bring the front tire to a complete halt, while the bike continues forward.. (skidding(
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If you are ever in doubt about what is the best design for Sportbikes/Superbikes, you need to look no further that MotoGP as an example of the pinnacle of design and performance. This is where performance motorcycles are tested to the extreme and that technology trickles down to the mass produced bikes. And they use a dual disc FYI. If you haven't been following MotoGP this year you have missed out BTW.
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If you are ever in doubt about what is the best design for Sportbikes/Superbikes, you need to look no further that MotoGP as an example of the pinnacle of design and performance. This is where performance motorcycles are tested to the extreme and that technology trickles down to the mass produced bikes. And they use a dual disc FYI. If you haven't been following MotoGP this year you have missed out BTW.
Love me some MotoGP.. no other racing compares..
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What Zoney said. However, I am willing to admit that racing bikes don't necessarily represent the pinnacle of touring motorcycle technology.....last time I checked, Rossi didn't have heated handgrips on his YZF-M1 and I will maintain til the day I die that heated handgrips are the greatest invention in the history of motorcycling.
It was all different when I was a kid, the only people you heard of passing their tests and buying a ZXR750 were generally dead within the week, it just wasn't done. When I were a wee lad we worked our way up to a big bike. In order, I went: 70cc, 80cc, 250cc, 400cc, 600cc, 1000cc. And that was over the course of about 10 years. I wouldn't trust any new rider with my bike, come to think of it I wouldn't trust anyone at all with my bike.......maybe Zoney, if he left his daughter as a deposit.
The point is: When you're learning to fly you dont get put in an SR-71 straight after your PPL test, you work up to it slowly gaining experience on various other less powerful types first.
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Swoop, you need to ask Zoney to leave his baby finger as a deposit!
Oh wait...... he did that already.... :devil
I'l never let you live that down Zoney! :rofl :rofl :rofl As I pick gravel out of my left arm that has been there for about 30 years now and I still find a bit now and then!
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I miss that finger. :D Glove looks really strange with one finger flapping in the wind too.
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What Zoney said. However, I am willing to admit that racing bikes don't necessarily represent the pinnacle of touring motorcycle technology.....last time I checked, Rossi didn't have heated handgrips on his YZF-M1 and I will maintain til the day I die that heated handgrips are the greatest invention in the history of motorcycling.
It was all different when I was a kid, the only people you heard of passing their tests and buying a ZXR750 were generally dead within the week, it just wasn't done. When I were a wee lad we worked our way up to a big bike. In order, I went: 70cc, 80cc, 250cc, 400cc, 600cc, 1000cc. And that was over the course of about 10 years. I wouldn't trust any new rider with my bike, come to think of it I wouldn't trust anyone at all with my bike.......maybe Zoney, if he left his daughter as a deposit.
The point is: When you're learning to fly you dont get put in an SR-71 straight after your PPL test, you work up to it slowly gaining experience on various other less powerful types first.
Absolutely right, I went from an NS250 Superdream to a 400 Superdream (not super, certainly not any dream i was harbouring), NTV650, VFR800, VTR1000,ZZR1100, ZZR1200, T955, CBR1000, CBR1100XX, ST1100 and another VTR1000
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I miss that finger. :D Glove looks really strange with one finger flapping in the wind too.
Atleast you can laugh about it! :aok
I pretty much followed the same progression as Danny and Swoop,first road bike was a 250 kawi,it was a silly little bike but I learnt how to ride on the street with it and I thought I knew how to ride from years of dirt bikes.
TBH I havent ridden in awhile,doubt I could hold on for long enough to enjoy it.
:salute