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Title: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Rob52240 on October 17, 2014, 04:41:59 AM
Anyone else catch the trailer? I think it looks promising but I can't help having doubts.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: craz07 on October 17, 2014, 06:55:12 PM
Used to love watching mad max as a little kid.. it was like an illness man :lol
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 19, 2015, 04:12:08 PM
Best movie of the year. Oh, what a lovely day indeed!
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Post by: guncrasher on May 19, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
The plot sucks but the action is great. watch it in 3d for better enjoyment.
semp
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 19, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
You must have seen a different movie than I did. This movie is a lesson in conveying depth with minimal dialogue. George Miller delivers a masters class in story telling and stunt driven effects that successfully convey back story, cultural nuance and the justification of these desperate acts of disobedience and violence. All the characters were awesome and the director did an amazing job to introduce them all almost instantly and get right into the action.
The performances in the film are nothing short of great and satisfying. Theron's shining portrayal of Furiosa is the literal and figurative driver of the film. In a genre that tends to victimize or sexualize the female leads, Miller portrays a strong female lead without any unnecessary feminist underpinnings. In masking her natural beauty, Theron is allowed to develop her strengths and vulnerabilities without making a political statement.
Hardy is brilliant as the tortured lead character and delivers a believable portrait of his desire to survive the present while mentally enduring his past. He is given minimal dialogue, but is able to become the heart of this post-apocalyptic tale. Both Hardy and Theron are supported by an excellent supporting cast that moves this experience from a mere adrenaline rush to a story of fighting for your right to live, seeing that sacrifice is part of freedom and ultimately for the hope for redemption.
Even the badguy in this dark twisted world, Immortan Joe, delivers a dark and demented message of the need for effective leadership, and that leaders need to provide people with purpose for their sacrifice, even if it is misplaced. The story shows that there is a basic need for something beyond our material needs that gives society drive and direction.
The cinematography and direction is beautiful, visceral and raw. Camera work is impeccable. Fury Road is a hallmark in action films.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 19, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
The plot sucks but the action is great. watch it in 3d for better enjoyment.
semp
Seen a couple movies in 3-d Personally. I am not impressed. Every 15-20 years since the 50's they've been trying to dupe people with this novelty. It hasnt stuck yet
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: guncrasher on May 20, 2015, 03:58:37 AM
never said the acting was bad but the plot sucks. give you some examples:
-mad max gets captured and gets the blood sucked out of him but somehow just like in wrestling he comes back with no ill effects.
-the point of her going out was to go get some fuel but somehow she takes off with 3k gallons of fuel. come on, nobody noticed? the fricking pod that she took cannot carry more than 3k of fuel.
-she goes thru the pass and it gets blown up, a zillion tons of rocks blocks it, then a few days, maybe hours later she comes back thru the pass and it's cleared.
-the guys on the poles would sure as hell flip their vehicles moving from side to side, that's a fact.
-the stupid guy with the guitar.
-you leave to go perhaps to a place that's days or maybe weeks away and yet the "brides" are wasting water like crazy taking showers in the middle of the desert. with the guys chasing them within sight.
-how in the heck did she get them out? the guy has to open a vault to find out they were gone.
-the people fighting for the water already in canisters, are ignoring the pool of water on their feet.
-list goes on an on....
I could make a fortune in youtube by setting up a chanel and calling it cinema sins.
movie has a lot of action, good acting but the plot is really stupid. I would watch it again in 3d at the theater, but I would never bother to watch it on tv.
semp
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: BBP on May 20, 2015, 06:42:27 AM
:angry: I'm suing Semp :evil:for giving the movie away. That Sucked! :angry: :angry: :angry:
Kimo
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 20, 2015, 07:03:46 AM
-mad max gets captured and gets the blood sucked out of him but somehow just like in wrestling he comes back with no ill effects.
We do not know how much blood they had taken from him. They were obviously keeping him alive as a donor. They even stressed the fact that he should be treated with care since he was a “universal donor”. Taking him with them into battle was not something they were supposed to do. Nux whined them into doing it so he wouldn't miss his chance at immortality.
-the point of her going out was to go get asome fuel but somehow she takes off with 3k gallons of fuel. come on, nobody noticed? the fricking pod that she took cannot carry more than 3k of fuel.
She had a fuel pod on the war rig which was probably a standard fitting so they could refuel the smaller vehicles during long range operations. You seem to fail to understand the economics of their world: She was driving a TANKER filled with water (aqua cola) and mother’s milk, the main produce of the Citadel. She was supposed to trade this with the warlord ruling Gas Town in return for fuel. In the huge TANKER she was driving. Instead she took off with it all and had made a deal with the marauders guarding the pass. Giving them the fuel pod in exchange for safe passage.
-she goes thru the pass and it gets blown up, a zillion tons of rocks blocks it, then a few days, maybe hours later she comes back thru the pass and it's cleared.
Several day-night cycles were shown between the time they ran the pass and when they met the Mothers. They spent at least one night at the Mothers’ camp before they set out on their motorbikes to cross the salt flats. When they turned back we don’t get to see all the time spent getting back to under a day’s drive from the pass, but they obviously must have spent the time.
Immortan Joe ordered his war party to clear the pass while he pushed forward with the only vehicle he had that was able to get over the mound of rocks (the monster truck). The pass was obviously cleared by his army. Otherwise the war parties wouldn’t have gotten through at all.
Also the marauders guarding the pass made their living by raiding/taxing people traveling there. They had explosives and knew how to use them. They had motor vehicles. All this could have been expropriated by Immortan Joe’s people to help them clear the rubble.
-the guys on the poles would sure as hell flip their vehicles moving from side to side, that's a fact.
No, because the poles had counterbalances. It was a real stunt. This is not a CG movie. 80% was real stunts and in-camera effects, and most of the action was one-takes as they actually crashed the vehicles.
Was awesome! And he was actually playing a working guitar hooked up to the wall of speakers! And the insane dude playing is actually the Australian musician iOTA.
-you leave to go perhaps to a place that's days or maybe weeks away and yet the "brides" are wasting water like crazy taking showers in the middle of the desert. with the guys chasing them within sight.
They had a tanker full of water, and they were going to a “green place” where water was abundant. They were washing up while Furiosa was making repairs to the war rig after driving through the sand storm. They were not having a roadside rest stop.
-how in the heck did she get them out? the guy has to open a vault to find out they were gone.
Did you miss the old lady with the shotgun in the beginning of the movie? She was the caretaker of the women or whatever and even confessed to Immortan Joe why she did it. She was already inside the vault. She was Furiosa's inside woman.
You don’t realize just how crappy most action movies are, until you see something like Mad Max: Fury Road — a movie in which there are no “action scenes” because the action pretty much never stops. And the film’s constant sense of violent motion is in the service of incredible imagery and transcendant moments.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: The Fugitive on May 20, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Did you read the guys other posts? I'm sure he hasn't a clue about "Game of Thrones" and a few of his other opinions seem a bit, well "out there". I wouldn't trust what he had to say about anything.
While not a "sure sign" of anything, Pitch Perfect 2 beat Mad Max in the box office for the weekend. Not a good sign for an "astonishing work of art".
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Drano on May 20, 2015, 10:23:45 AM
Saw it last night. Yeah a lot of it was pretty dumb. But ya hadda know what you were getting into. Lots of stuff blowing up in 3D. I gave it a resounding "meh" otherwise. Still like the original Road Warrior the best of the genre.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 20, 2015, 10:45:45 AM
A solid 8.8 on imdb and 98% on rotten tomatoes is quite telling.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 20, 2015, 10:58:59 AM
Great interview with George Miller:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_VxcSHyWI
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: guncrasher on May 20, 2015, 12:10:18 PM
You must have seen a different movie than I did. This movie is a lesson in conveying depth with minimal dialogue. George Miller delivers a masters class in story telling and stunt driven effects that successfully convey back story, cultural nuance and the justification of these desperate acts of disobedience and violence. All the characters were awesome and the director did an amazing job to introduce them all almost instantly and get right into the action.
The performances in the film are nothing short of great and satisfying. Theron's shining portrayal of Furiosa is the literal and figurative driver of the film. In a genre that tends to victimize or sexualize the female leads, Miller portrays a strong female lead without any unnecessary feminist underpinnings. In masking her natural beauty, Theron is allowed to develop her strengths and vulnerabilities without making a political statement.
Hardy is brilliant as the tortured lead character and delivers a believable portrait of his desire to survive the present while mentally enduring his past. He is given minimal dialogue, but is able to become the heart of this post-apocalyptic tale. Both Hardy and Theron are supported by an excellent supporting cast that moves this experience from a mere adrenaline rush to a story of fighting for your right to live, seeing that sacrifice is part of freedom and ultimately for the hope for redemption.
Even the badguy in this dark twisted world, Immortan Joe, delivers a dark and demented message of the need for effective leadership, and that leaders need to provide people with purpose for their sacrifice, even if it is misplaced. The story shows that there is a basic need for something beyond our material needs that gives society drive and direction.
The cinematography and direction is beautiful, visceral and raw. Camera work is impeccable. Fury Road is a hallmark in action films.
:old:
:rofl
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 21, 2015, 10:15:20 AM
The actor playing the villain seems like an interesting character in real life too. Casting was also spot on in this movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJYlWZ3oVGk
Zack, is that you? :P
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Interceptor on May 21, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
Saw it yesterday, clearly an awesome movie, exactly what Mad Max III should have been... :aok
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: zack1234 on May 21, 2015, 12:48:20 PM
Yes i am the third tree on the left :)
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 23, 2015, 12:33:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgkawcew2u8
:rock :devil
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on February 29, 2016, 03:29:38 PM
SIX OSCARS!!! SUCK IT HATERS!!! :rock
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Vulcan on February 29, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
Just because a collective group of strangers decided they found things they like in a movie, does not mean anyone else will. Just saying.
I have not seen the movie and have no opinion on it, but if I wanted to find out if I might like it, the Oscars would be the last place I would look. I trust Rotten Tomatoes more. If you want to find something to back your opinion, then there are better sources than the Oscars. Again, just saying.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Arlo on February 29, 2016, 04:31:48 PM
Just because a collective group of strangers decided they found things they like in a movie, does not mean anyone else will. Just saying.
I have not seen the movie and have no opinion on it, but if I wanted to find out if I might like it, the Oscars would be the last place I would look. I trust Rotten Tomatoes more. If you want to find something to back your opinion, then there are better sources than the Oscars. Again, just saying.
I DID watch it. It took me no less than 4 days, because it was so shallow I couldn't possibly focus on it for more than about 20 minutes at a time. I have only walked out on ONE movie in a theater before, and had I seen this thing in a theater, I would have demanded my money back. It's in my top 5 list of worst movies ever.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on February 29, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
Just because a collective group of strangers decided they found things they like in a movie, does not mean anyone else will. Just saying.
I have not seen the movie and have no opinion on it, but if I wanted to find out if I might like it, the Oscars would be the last place I would look. I trust Rotten Tomatoes more. If you want to find something to back your opinion, then there are better sources than the Oscars. Again, just saying.
97% on the Tomatometer.
"Critics Consensus: With exhilarating action and a surprising amount of narrative heft, Mad Max: Fury Road brings George Miller's post-apocalyptic franchise roaring vigorously back to life."
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Post by: guncrasher on February 29, 2016, 06:35:35 PM
other than the girls taking a shower in the desert. I didnt really care for this movie. it was really bad. and I paid extra to see it in 3d. well the girls did make it worthwhile.
semp
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Post by: The Fugitive on February 29, 2016, 09:38:28 PM
Of all the films I think this one was the "darkest" and so they gave it all the awards to cover their butts
#OscarSoWhite :noid
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Wiley on March 01, 2016, 01:08:31 AM
They were design and sound awards. Not exactly much to do with the movie's quality.
I quite liked the movie, I bought the Blu-Ray. I'm not entirely sure it deserves all the slobbering the critics did over it but for what it was, it was much better than most similar movies.
Wiley.
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Post by: FLOOB on March 01, 2016, 01:20:32 AM
Pretty good movie. Better than the first two that's for sure.
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Post by: FLOOB on March 01, 2016, 07:28:30 AM
I DID watch it. It took me no less than 4 days, because it was so shallow I couldn't possibly focus on it for more than about 20 minutes at a time. I have only walked out on ONE movie in a theater before, and had I seen this thing in a theater, I would have demanded my money back. It's in my top 5 list of worst movies ever.
Yeah but aren't you also the guy who thought that the prequels were better than The Force Awakens? I'm pretty critical of cinema and I don't even like action movies yet I think this was a pretty good movie. The film certainly deserved an award for cinematography. Some of those shot's had to be a nightmare to put together and undoubtedly took many takes.
But one can't ignore the racially conscious pc motivations for nominating this film. I mean the two lead actors aren't anglo they're germanic. The bad guys are all anglo, in fact the only anglo/nordic faces in the good guy team were the paint huffing traitor kid and the hot preggers chick.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: zack1234 on March 01, 2016, 08:19:57 AM
Brokeback mountain was Defo Germanic!
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Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
"Critics Consensus: With exhilarating action and a surprising amount of narrative heft, Mad Max: Fury Road brings George Miller's post-apocalyptic franchise roaring vigorously back to life."
You have to take any opinion within the context of the person stating the opinion. Most people are pretty clear about their personal context, which makes it easy to determine if they are in line with what you go to see a movie for.
The "tomatometer" is a joke.
I read a number of the reviews. Based on what I read, I would not have paid to see the movie in a theater. I might pick up the DVD from the bargain bin though.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 01, 2016, 10:33:32 AM
You Sir are a hopeless old cynic! :mad:
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Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2016, 11:17:48 AM
Not at all. I just know what I like when I go to see a movie and that may not be what you like. No harm, no foul.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: zack1234 on March 01, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
Do you have Brokeback mountain on Bluray?
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 01, 2016, 12:19:12 PM
No I don't. I saw it once in the theater. Good movie, but not much replay value. I do however have a copy of Blue Is The Warmest Color (La vie d'Adele). A three hour long French gay romance movie. It's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough. Never seen acting that good before, or since. Nor passion and love portrayed so raw and real. It's on Netflix if you want to check it out.
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Post by: Meatwad on March 01, 2016, 12:20:07 PM
Not at all. I just know what I like when I go to see a movie and that may not be what you like. No harm, no foul.
Thats mainly the reason I dont go to the movies anymore, nothing ever worth my time to watch. The other reason is I refuse to spend $5 on a small soda and $5 on a tiny bag of popcorn. What a crock.
Anything that looks like it would be good to see ill wait till it comes out on tv even if it takes a few years. I wont even go out to rent a movie either
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Post by: zack1234 on March 01, 2016, 01:01:23 PM
No I don't. I saw it once in the theater. Good movie, but not much replay value. I do however have a copy of Blue Is The Warmest Color (La vie d'Adele). A three hour long French gay romance movie. It's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough. Never seen acting that good before, or since. Nor passion and love portrayed so raw and real. It's on Netflix if you want to check it out.
Awesome :)
Pipz also has that film on Betamax long play
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 01, 2016, 01:20:14 PM
A 2013 movie on Betamax.. :huh :rofl
Exceptional movie, Won the Palm d'Or at Cannes (the international film festival that makes the Oscars look like a school pageant) and also an unprecedented award for the leading ladies. Exarchopoulos winning the most prestigious film award in the world at 19.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: katanaso on March 01, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
Not at all. I just know what I like when I go to see a movie and that may not be what you like. No harm, no foul.
Since you enjoy the ridiculousness of 'Scorpion', and being a car guy, I think you'll enjoy the movie for the cars and stunts. That's what makes the movie.
Tom Hardy's good in it. Charlize Theron was a waste - I felt she didn't bring anything special to it.
But those cars, and the stunts...and explosions. Total mindless overkill. :)
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 01, 2016, 02:05:29 PM
Since you enjoy the ridiculousness of 'Scorpion', and being a car guy, I think you'll enjoy the movie for the cars and stunts. That's what makes the movie.
Tom Hardy's good in it. Charlize Theron was a waste - I felt she didn't bring anything special to it.
But those cars, and the stunts...and explosions. Total mindless overkill. :)
I would think I would like it, but then again, I did not care for the original Mad Max movies.
Scorpion is a different level. I put it right in there with classic 'B' movies you have to laugh at due to it being so over-the-top. I mean it is truly ludicrous, which makes it so funny. Movies/television which does not take itself seriously is almost always entertaining to me.
Yes, I have a superficial take on all visual entertainment and I like it like that.
Like I said, I have not seen this movie. I remember seeing the trailers and deciding I would wait on it. I'll catch it on Netflix or Hulu whenever it gets there.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: morfiend on March 01, 2016, 05:12:24 PM
First I dont go to theaters anymore,but I have seen the movie twice!
Once in 2d and the second time in 3d blueray,while the 3d effects were pretty good the movie was just ok. It seemed predicable and never had me on the edge of my seat wondering "whats next".
When I heard it won all those oscars I was surprised but then not really because there been few good movies made lately.
Maybe I should just keep watching TCM,Gilda and a couple other movies I've seen countless time and never tire of seeing them.
AS cheesy as the original Max movie was,I'd rather watch that than the latest installment!
:salute
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 01, 2016, 09:37:46 PM
Yes, I have a superficial take on all visual entertainment and I like it like that.
You don't want to get emotionally invested? I can get that. I probably get too emotionally involved in fictional stories. Some movies have wrecked me for days if not weeks.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: zack1234 on March 02, 2016, 01:21:46 AM
I got emotionally involved in the non war bits in Pearl Harbour and Red Tails.
I get emotional when I see a Brewster in AH.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: deSelys on March 02, 2016, 02:24:39 AM
No I don't. I saw it once in the theater. Good movie, but not much replay value. I do however have a copy of Blue Is The Warmest Color (La vie d'Adele). A three hour long French gay romance movie. It's fantastic. Can't recommend it enough. Never seen acting that good before, or since. Nor passion and love portrayed so raw and real. It's on Netflix if you want to check it out.
You should have said 'a three hour long French lesbian movie and at least 1/2 of the bbs users would have already watched it multiple times by now.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 02, 2016, 05:49:47 AM
You don't want to get emotionally invested? I can get that. I probably get too emotionally involved in fictional stories. Some movies have wrecked me for days if not weeks.
Good gosh no. I go to movies for a mental distraction (i.e. to suspend reality, to unplug, mindless entertainment). Real life offers enough drama and mental exhaustion for me.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 02, 2016, 12:04:17 PM
Copy that.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 02, 2016, 12:29:04 PM
You should have said 'a three hour long French lesbian movie and at least 1/2 of the bbs users would have already watched it multiple times by now.
:rofl Yeah I suppose so. To be honest it was the controversy surrounding the love scenes that made me pick it up. However as I watched the movie it soon became evident that the love scenes are in fact the worst parts of this movie... and they are very good indeed.
Here's a trailer and a good spoiler free review. If you think this film is something you'd like to experience then pick it up. Watch it alone in the dark or with your spouse/lover. Whatever you do don't watch it with your parents, or friends you don't want to cry in front of. Skuzzy, avoid at all cost!
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: caldera on March 02, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
Being a fan of Mad Max and The Road Warrior, I more or less liked the movie, but it didn't live up to the drooling reviews. The whole thing was just way over the top and too much like the weirdness of Beyond Thunderdome.
Cars with humungous tires flying along at ridiculous speeds - even outrunning Max's interceptor IIRC. Dumb. And the mutant guitarist seems like something out of a Spinal Tap video. Except that would have been intentionally funny if they did it.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 02, 2016, 04:13:10 PM
:rofl Yeah I suppose so. To be honest it was the controversy surrounding the love scenes that made me pick it up. However as I watched the movie it soon became evident that the love scenes are in fact the worst parts of this movie... and they are very good indeed.
Here's a trailer and a good spoiler free review. If you think this film is something you'd like to experience then pick it up. Watch it alone in the dark or with your spouse/lover. Whatever you do don't watch it with your parents, or friends you don't want to cry in front of. Skuzzy, avoid at all cost!
Thanks for the heads up, but not needed. Already heard about it and am not interested. Looks like a snooze fest.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Arlo on March 02, 2016, 06:31:51 PM
Good gosh no. I go to movies for a mental distraction (i.e. to suspend reality, to unplug, mindless entertainment). Real life offers enough drama and mental exhaustion for me.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 03, 2016, 05:22:16 AM
And one day I will be driving it. However, I decided to fabricate a custom IRS for it using the pumpkin from a late model Ford Explorer. Just got the thing tack welded into place for a test fit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=366670.0;attach=24001)
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: zack1234 on March 03, 2016, 07:14:28 AM
What will the carbon foot print be on said vehicle ?
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 03, 2016, 08:31:33 AM
And one day I will be driving it. However, I decided to fabricate a custom IRS for it using the pumpkin from a late model Ford Explorer. Just got the thing tack welded into place for a test fit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=366670.0;attach=24001)
YOW! Whatahobby! (I'll tool fetch for beer.)
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: morfiend on March 03, 2016, 06:53:32 PM
And one day I will be driving it. However, I decided to fabricate a custom IRS for it using the pumpkin from a late model Ford Explorer. Just got the thing tack welded into place for a test fit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=366670.0;attach=24001)
Do you plan on outboard discs or inboard like the Jags use?
Did some searching and forgot the MkVIII had IRS,is it as tough as the explorer diff?
:salute
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: FLOOB on March 03, 2016, 07:17:36 PM
Skuzzy doesn't seem like a man who watches anime or reads comic books.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 04, 2016, 08:56:47 AM
Do you plan on outboard discs or inboard like the Jags use?
Did some searching and forgot the MkVIII had IRS,is it as tough as the explorer diff?
:salute
Have to go outboard due to space issues, considering I am using 12 inch Wilwood discs and 4 piston calipers.
The Explorer diff is the toughest 8.8" pumpkin Ford has. The case is extremely beefy. The axles are also very heavy duty (1.29" in diameter, 31 spline). The biggest reason to go this route is availability. Ford has sold millions of these things and the parts are cheap ($70.00 for each new half shaft complete with CV joints).
All I need to add is the Eaton TruTrac spool and better quality ring and pinion and it probably will be the least troublesome aspect of this car.
Have to remember, this thing is designed for a 5,000 pound vehicle which can tow upwards to 5,000 pounds. Just from a structural perspective, it is going to be stouter than anything made for any car.
Skuzzy doesn't seem like a man who watches anime or reads comic books.
Stopped reading comic books when I was in high school. As far as anime goes,...why would I waste my time like that when I could building something, or pulling my hair out of my head. Either seems more fun that watching anime.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 04, 2016, 10:03:15 AM
Jeesus Skuzz, I know you did your homework but there is drawbacks to over engineering a car. I cruise guys garages that would have driven their projects years ago if they would have not ran out of money building their cars with tank custom parts. And really, does your car really need it in the end? I also shake my head at guys spending 80K+ in track ready TR6/Gt6 by replacing every single component by custom $$$ so they can support the bigger tires ever and go after 'the corvettes' ... without ever having set foot on a track :huh
Words of wisdom from Frenchy, for who ever cares. The most fun I had in cars was driving the slow cars. Tracking a 800HP Z06 ... not fun. You always tippy toe waiting to get bit in the ass. Race tires grippy spec car ... not fun. Sure you zip around corners like never before but the difference between grip/no grip is so narrow.
My GT6 on track days was my best teacher and the most fun. You rev the hell out of it, slide your way thru corners, and truly have to work your line/breaking/momentum retention. Too much power, too much grip and you rely too heavily on it. You don't want to be that laughable track day guy that parades around in 500HP fat tires mustang when you were eating him alive in cornering on 195s with 150HP :lipsrsealed:
It's your life puppies, but to me if your build the best car straight up you are missing on the fun of learning/tweaking/improving part. Drive the thing already. Cobra club racers got better stuff ... who cares ... go drive! Being competitive is actually not that much fun, you are actually always racing against yourself, not really the other guy. :old:
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 04, 2016, 10:20:05 AM
It's not about being competitive.
I am doing it because it will improve the ride and handling of the car (ergo the safety), oh, and because I can. :) I started this car with one philosophy. If Shelby was doing this car today, what would he do? I could care less about being historically correct.
Time is not much of a factor. It will take about 3 months to complete the IRS. I already have the upper and lower control arms made (uppers are powder coated already). The uprights/spindles are cut and ready to assemble (got the left one done). The bearing/hub retainers are done.
The alignment of the pumpkin was the hardest part. With that out of the way, I can get the exact axle length so I can get those axles cut and resplined.
This is the kind of stuff I love doing. It is almost as fun as driving the car. :) I am applying everything I have learned over the last 45 years of mucking about with hot rods. My first hot rod was insanely difficult to live with. I was constantly tearing it down and rebuilding it to make it better. I do not need to do that anymore.
The guys you are describing bit off more than they could chew. I am not even taxing what I am capable of yet. Wait until you see the engine management system.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Skuzzy on March 04, 2016, 11:38:42 AM
Oh, one other thing. Cost. I will have approximately $550.00 in the entire IRS when I am done. I am not counting the Eaton TruTrac or ring and pinion as they would have had to been purchased anyway.
There are perks in owning a CNC plasma table, MIG and TIG welders, a 3D CNC Mill, and a mess of metal working tools (grinders, cutters, flangers,...).
So in the end it is not costing me that much cash, not much time, and the benefits of an IRS are well known, as compared to a live axle. To me, I would be foolish not to do it.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 04, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
Glad to hear, not that you need validation of what I think anyway.
Since you are on this topic. Rather than piecing together some junkyard EFI for my Firebird ... is there an aftermarket system like EzEfi or Affrodable Efi you heard good things about?
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 04, 2016, 11:44:13 AM
Glad to hear, not that you need validation of what I think anyway.
Since you are on this topic. Rather than piecing together some junkyard EFI for my Firebird ... is there an aftermarket system like EzEfi or Affrodable Efi you heard good things about?
It depends on how much effort you want to put into it and the level of expertise you have. Fast EzEFI has a good reputation for being easy to setup and run. At the other end is MegaSquirt. Pretty much a DIY fuel injection system with tons of options.
Several of the Cobra guys use the FAST EzEFI system and they all like it.
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: Arlo on March 04, 2016, 03:04:55 PM
DON'T .... google .... 'megasquirt' (with the wife or kids in the room).
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 04, 2016, 03:23:27 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Mad Max Reboot
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 11, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
Stumbled across the whole film on youtube with subtitles...