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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FESS67 on October 18, 2014, 06:19:08 AM
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I will not mention names as that will probably get the thread closed......
I had a run in with a player tonight where I called him out about bullying other players. He <bully> had sent a PM to the other player <bullied> after a fight.
I was not privy to the PM but the <bullied> player posted up on 200 that the <bully> should lay off that BS (or words to that effect). <bully> tells <bullied> to man up and respond in PM and not to take it to 200. <bullied> logs off.
I hop and the long and the short of it is I call the <bully> out for being a bully and forcing players from the game. I am told to toughen up as it is just a cartoon game and he lives on the streets of <XXX city (must be a tough guy)> and I should mind my own business.
I have seen thread after thread of people complaining about numbers dropping - and they are, without a doubt. We do not need people bullying others out of the game!
And, yes, if you are the <bully> I am referring to, internet bullying is very much alive and well. To the point that governments run campaigns to raise awareness in an effort to reduce the level of suicide and self harm within society. So, quit being a bully and start being an ambassador for the game and maybe you could have helped that player to stay logged on and for them to have fun.
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Must name names!!!
Just kidding bro. Yeah, PM's from the intardnet tuff guys do nothing to bolster the fun of Aces High but most folks see these thugs for what they are.
My .02
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rgr that. Exactly my reason for saying - 'keep it on 200' Abusive messages on PM are bullies at work. Of course PM's have their place, just not to ridicule, abuse etc
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Best route is an email to HTC.
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I would readily tell you that a nasty PM is worth a screen shot to Skuzzy and a .report on the offender.
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rgr I understand the option to report. The thing is I was a bystander watching this and got on 200 to advise the <bully> that his actions were not good. Of course I copped a bit but I fought my corner within the rules.
I guess my motivation here is to discourage these types of interactions and encourage a culture of help and assistance
Of course we exist within an environment of combat, winners and losers - but that does not mean we have to ridicule and bully. right?
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This is one of the reasons why Dweeb Hunts were created.
ack-ack
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Once they are gone.. it's going to be a great game.. no more private messages.. no more birds flappin they gums about some idiotic or moot drama, it will all be in the past and never spoken of again.. now thats a beautiful thing :lol (It's going to be fine guys hold on to your horses)
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.squelch playerID
.report playerID
then return to normal gaming letting the <bully> get filled all up with spite and bile that you're not responding. It's his blood pressure, not yours, leave him to it.
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Fess,
I hear you load and clear. Not that you need to take up a campaign all your own to ward off such behavior from the game, but I ask you to keep this in mind.
Bullies are usually victims of the same type of behavior focused on themselves. A man with confidence in his own abilities does not have a need to terrorize others.
The unnamed "Bully" that you experienced more than likely has a ton load of personal and mental issues that are acted out with a front of toughness.
They need to play "Hulk SMASH" with others they feel to be inferior or weaker than themselves.
Truly the best option for everyone is to follow the established HTC procedures that MAX mentioned above and perform a .report on that player.
Guys like Scuzzy review these issues and make the appropriate calls on player behavior. This is a business and codes of conduct are important to business relationships.
This allows you and others to continue to have a good time and stay in the MA as long as you like.
Hopefully the "Bullied" will not stay away from the fun.
Cheers...
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.squelch playerID
.report playerID
then return to normal gaming letting the <bully> get filled all up with spite and bile that you're not responding. It's his blood pressure, not yours, leave him to it.
.report does do nothing in this case. Only if enough players in a short interval would do so, he's gonna get auto muted.
If someone is attacking you personally in PM's and it's severe enough, take a screenshot and sent in a formal complaint in addition to .report (which creates a log).
And that procedure really works. Last month someone got muted for a week. :)
But I wouldn't do that for the usual "U lmme sisy" PM's. Just squelch them instantly and move on.
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I for one love PMs from people like that, but that's just me. I just love when stupid people make themselves look stupid.
I don't think anyone should be PMing anyone else in this way (unless that person is being rude to others, then he deserves all the PM's and more), but people will be whoever they want over the internet. If it gets to you then squelch the guy, take a screenshot of this messages, and send them in to HTC for them to look at and decide his fate.
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I think HTC should add an "Anti-bulling" message of the day and let it run a month strait before going back to a rotating post. Have it say...
"We at HTC take bullying very seriously. If you are being bullied and or harassed by another player please use the .report function to report the incident. HTC will review the incident and take the appropriate action. ALL reports will be kept CONFIDENTIAL ! Help us keep our game fun and enjoyable for all."
The "confidential" part must be stressed as nobody wants to be labeled as a tattle tail, squealer .... well except for the Pigs on the Wing, they squeal all the time :D
It doesn't matter that it "happens in all the other games" wrong is wrong. As such a small percentage of players use the boards the message of the day is a good way for HTC to get the message out that there IS a way for it to be handled available..... as Im sure more dont know that there is, or how to use it.
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This game is national/international in the spotlght.. lots of people see this and are a part of this.. however, if you think you're going to threaten me or my family with remarks or what have you.. bro hear me now.. it will be a different lead that i will be taking on this. Period
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This game is national/international in the spotlght.. lots of people see this and a part of this.. however, if you think you're going to threaten me or my family with remarks or what have you.. bro hear me now.. it will be a different lead that i will be taking on this. Period
excuse me if english isn't your first language, but what the heck are you going on about here?
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check 1st post, its been edited fugitive
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.squelch playerID
.report playerID
then return to normal gaming letting the <bully> get filled all up with spite and bile that you're not responding. It's his blood pressure, not yours, leave him to it.
Beat me to it sir <S>
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Deep down at their core, bullies are cowards. They get used to pushing against those that won't or can't push back. Since they are cowards, bullies back down or move along when some one stands up to them. Let HTC or the Skuzzmiester handle the push back. Have fun with the game. :salute
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<bully> tells <bullied> to man up and respond in PM and not to take it to 200.
I find that funny, the bully has it backwards, he is too cowardly to expose himself to ridicule if his blather is observed by the community.
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This game is national/international in the spotlght.. lots of people see this and are a part of this.. however, if you think you're going to threaten me or my family with remarks or what have you.. bro hear me now.. it will be a different lead that i will be taking on this. Period
:huh Lol Crazy people
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This game is national/international in the spotlght.. lots of people see this and are a part of this.. however, if you think you're going to threaten me or my family with remarks or what have you.. bro hear me now.. it will be a different lead that i will be taking on this. Period
Craz,
I think what the fugitive is saying there is we are not trying to fight fire with fire. We are trying to defuse these issues so that all players can have the maximum amount of enjoyment of the game.
A threat plus firing back doesn't begin to solve the underlying issue of "bullying". It's just fuel on the fire. It spoils the fun for everyone that is around the incident.
Right?
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:)
No one bully's me because i am the best fish fighter in Europe :old:
(Fist) :rofl (Fish) is better though :rofl :rofl
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No sir, i dont know about you, but I just don't like to be irritated by them.. not all but there are certain people that can be a bug... there really aint much difference.. don't think about it too much, it means nothing in the end
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Zack - Are you sure that's not a fish dance? Some say that you were/are the finest fish dancer in Britain and that Monty Python keeps you in the fridge next to the flounder. Hop Hop Hop - SLAP!
OP - We should follow the process when warranted. I don't have much to say in the game, except on squadron channel and range check sixes. I have been confronted by a few pilots in my years here, but found that 'freezing' them was a very effective counter. I mostly don't give a snot about what people think of my flying. To the underlying aspect of the OP...we won't build numbers if ANY of us tolerate a bully. If we run a bully off in the process, I'm fine with that.
:salute
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Squelching and Reporting someone doesn't stop the bullying :P
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Squelching and Reporting someone doesn't stop the bullying :P
Yeah ghost still bullies me daily even after I reported him :cry :cry
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rgr that. Exactly my reason for saying - 'keep it on 200' Abusive messages on PM are bullies at work. Of course PM's have their place, just not to ridicule, abuse etc
Bullying is fine if on 200 then I guess....
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rgr I understand the option to report. The thing is I was a bystander watching this and got on 200 to advise the <bully> that his actions were not good. Of course I copped a bit but I fought my corner within the rules.
I guess my motivation here is to discourage these types of interactions and encourage a culture of help and assistance
Of course we exist within an environment of combat, winners and losers - but that does not mean we have to ridicule and bully. right?
Charity begins at home.
Oh the irony in a number of ways. (Not that the point is invalid, btw.)
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I prefer the fight fire with fire approach. Never fire first... always fire last and with 10x more force. Most people are so blind-sided by it that they often think they're the victim and then hypocritically cry for help.
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I prefer the fight fire with fire approach. Never fire first... always fire last and with 10x more force. Most people are so blind-sided by it that they often think they're the victim and then hypocritically cry for help.
Makes the game so much better than ignoring it and "talking with your guns". :/
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This thread is one of those threads that bring out the Full Of It crowd.
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This thread is one of those threads that bring out the Full Of It crowd.
:aok
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I prefer the fight fire with fire approach. Never fire first... always fire last and with 10x more force. Most people are so blind-sided by it that they often think they're the victim and then hypocritically cry for help.
Hey Skyyr are you to good too return my BBS pm?......was trying to be cordial
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Interesting subject... Detune 200 unless you like watching the drama.. If you get a nasty p.m. Just block the dude and that'll be the only PM youll see from him and continue on having fun. As others have said take a screenshot and send it to HTC...
What we don't need is a group of people who think they need to be the Bully Police and have their BBS witch hunts. what one person can see as a bulling remark may not be seen that way by others, do you see where I'm going with this? just take a screenshot of the incident and let HTC decide if it is a case of bullying and they will contact the person and they will work it all out. It just all comes down to having respect for the other players in the game treat people like you would want to be treated its not that hard.. maybe that's why I've never gotten any nasty PM's or send any, I have respect for all players in this game.
:salute
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Is a screenshot required for personal threats or does a .report suffice?
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Is a screenshot required for personal threats or does a .report suffice?
Take a screenshot, screenshots don't lie + .report
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Take a screenshot, screenshots don't lie + .report
Good to know.
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Take a screenshot, screenshots don't lie + .report
Skuzzy has said that they've gotten edited screen shots before. If you use the report feature and send in a screen shot by email, it's guaranteed that the issue will be addressed. While the screen shot can be edited, the chat buffer cannot.
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Skuzzy has said that they've gotten edited screen shots before. If you use the report feature and send in a screen shot by email, it's guaranteed that the issue will be addressed. While the screen shot can be edited, the chat buffer cannot.
Are .reports investigated only with a screenshot or email to Skuzzy?
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All you gotta do is zoom in on the screen shot and tell that it was edited.
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Are .reports investigated only with a screenshot or email to Skuzzy?
I'm not exactly sure. I know that a mass report will work as well as a report with a screen shot. This leads me to believe that they get a regular number of people who abuse the report feature.
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some guys take this game way too serious.................nuff said
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some guys take this game way too serious.................nuff said
That is entirely true. I know I used to. Admittedly, frustration is a common side effect of repeated failure...
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That is entirely true. I know I used to. Admittedly, frustration is a common side effect of repeated failure...
why let it frustrate you? i love pm's i find them very amusing and entertaining.
my fav pm's are when the initiate the pm and when you verbally abuse them they cry foul and say they gonna report you...i spit my drink out every time laughing
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That is entirely true. I know I used to. Admittedly, frustration is a common side effect of repeated failure...
you still do vraciu, not everybody wins every single encounter, well except that guy that flies the p38 :). airplanes are free and you can have as many as you want.
there's another guy that even midway says "damn, he talks too much".
semp
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I am working on it. Way way way better than I used to be--but giving Midway jazz is a tradition around here...
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I prefer the fight fire with fire approach. Never fire first... always fire last and with 10x more force. Most people are so blind-sided by it that they often think they're the victim and then hypocritically cry for help.
This doesn't help the problem. :bhead
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SkyRock<----owns bullies... :aok
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I was there this morning and Fess s dead on.......and may I add handled it like a gentleman, as did the person that the PM was sent to....and spoke up for himself on 200 when the little coward PMd him.....you both have my utmost respect.
That said, if I was a new player and saw the BS that's this person was spouting (more true "Bullying"than smack talk)
I would have second thought my future here. Last thing I want to do is deal with that when I'm trying to have fun and relax on my down time, and seeing how this moron was acting, my $14.95 would have probably been out the door. I have to deal with idiots in real life, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for that privilege on my time off.
Oh, and it's not being over sensitive, it's not wanting to have to deal with such an idiot......or worse watching an idiot utterly brow beat an otherwise decent guy just wanting to have fun like me
All that said, I'm not going to just "detune 200". I have a hell of a lot more right to be there than that idiot. Personally I like to do things that I feel may help the game or another player. Not go out of my way to make someone else miserable or disrespected. M
Was an absolutely shameful display, and Fess should be commended not mocked in any way.
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SkyRock<----owns bullies... :aok
You gave me pure grief 1st week I played this game
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Zack just bullied my bombers :cry
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I understand the .squelch and .report options.
I was not the direct victim in this instance - I was trying to defend that victim. The bully told me to mind my own business.
As has been said, detune 200 or ignoring the guy simply means his bullying ways continue. I simply made a stance in game and now on the forum to say to that player his attitude should not be welcome.
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I understand the .squelch and .report options.
I was not the direct victim in this instance - I was trying to defend that victim. The bully told me to mind my own business.
As has been said, detune 200 or ignoring the guy simply means his bullying ways continue. I simply made a stance in game and now on the forum to say to that player his attitude should not be welcome.
But it is okay when...
Ah nevermind.
Far too much of this around, including the obvious perpetrator further back in the thread who calls it a tactic. "When are you going to learn that the objective in here is to humiliate people?" :headscratch:
Bravo for saying something THIS time any way. :salute
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Since when is it the object of this game to humiliate people?
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A player-based ostracization campaign to root out the bad apples in the community will go a long way toward new player (and returning player) retention.
All of you guys that have been here a long time need to speak up on 200 and shut these cats down, or at the very least show the silent onlookers that the behavior is deviant from what the expected AH norm is.
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All of you guys that have been here a long time need to speak up on 200 and shut these cats down,
As if that would ever work... No one will "shut up", just because another 12 guys are telling him so. (Remember how well that worked with Mama war?)
It's just adding more fuel to the fire and turning it into a mud wrestle arena.
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As if that would ever work... No one will "shut up", just because another 12 guys are telling him so. (Remember how well that worked with Mama war?)
It's just adding more fuel to the fire and turning it into a mud wrestle arena.
True. Stood up for Skyrock the other day. People just piled on to the few of us saying chill out...
Ignoring them is a great option. Having mass .reports and urging Skuzzy to mute them for a loooooooong time would be a start.
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As if that would ever work... No one will "shut up", just because another 12 guys are telling him so. (Remember how well that worked with Mama war?)
It's just adding more fuel to the fire and turning it into a mud wrestle arena.
Had you bothered to utilize the entirety of my statement.... :rolleyes:
When some amazinhunk noodles off at the mouth on 200, and there is zero public derision of the behavior, a new or returning player see that's the behavior is acceptable based upon that lack of response.
220 people online and NO one says anything?
Players that ACT like this see that the behavior is acceptable and not apparently punished. Players that wish to AVOID such behavior see that it is acceptable and not apparently punished.
Guess which ones stay and guess which ones leave?
Cultivate a cesspool, live in a cesspool.
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That said, if I was a new player and saw the BS that's this person was spouting (more true "Bullying"than smack talk)
I would have second thought my future here. Last thing I want to do is deal with that when I'm trying to have fun and relax on my down time
Yup. Took me forever to join the squad I'm currently in because i saw my future CEO smack-talking someone else. That sort of thing doesn't make for a happy atmosphere and I commend anyone who stands up to bullying.
Some of you are saying that the issue should have been handled privately. I can't agree. We need a public forum for this type of complaint or the game culture will degrade.
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You gave me pure grief 1st week I played this game
grief as in I owned you with extreme ease and bountifulness?
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I prefer the fight fire with fire approach. Never fire first... always fire last and with 10x more force. Most people are so blind-sided by it that they often think they're the victim and then hypocritically cry for help.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vjPk_K5q-Zw/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Sometimes PM's are sent so as not to burden the rest of the players with the discussion.
Responding to it on 200 completely defeats the purpose and just a simple "look at me".
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It just all comes down to having respect for the other players in the game treat people like you would want to be treated its not that hard.. maybe that's why I've never gotten any nasty PM's or send any, I have respect for all players in this game.
:salute
Or maybe it's just because you suck. :D
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You want to know how to stop internet bullying??
get off the internet
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Who's on first bulled or bully. :furious
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You want to know how to stop internet bullying??
get off the internet
I am sure you don't really think that is the answer. Of course it is a good point. Jews in 1930's Germany had a choice like that - don't like the Nazi system? Get out of Germany....ahhh if only they had done that. Problem solved.
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I am sure you don't really think that is the answer. Of course it is a good point. Jews in 1930's Germany had a choice like that - don't like the Nazi system? Get out of Germany....ahhh if only they had done that. Problem solved.
How is it not the answer? :huh
This subject will only grind my gears to the point where i can't handle. I am a firm believer that if you can't stand up for your own self and fight like a man then you are worthless. Also that everyone now a days is a "hypersensitive" and can't handle a little hardship in their life.
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PERMASQUELCH................. ........and I'll play the game my way and the rest can play their way
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I am sure you don't really think that is the answer. Of course it is a good point. Jews in 1930's Germany had a choice like that - don't like the Nazi system? Get out of Germany....ahhh if only they had done that. Problem solved.
Tell that to the Jews in Poland, Russia, etc.. It didn't work out so well for them.
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This post is sickening. Why do people care so much about controlling others and how they play the game? If it is such a problem (PMs, 200, etc) then why aren't those communication avenues closed? Equating this "issue" to why the numbers are declining is ABSURD. The reason I left the game was because of PEOPLE like the poster. Making a thread about bullying? Are you serious? Comparing it to people committing suicide?
I far too often got muted for saying something on 200 that some "mod" found wasn't to their liking. The problem within AH is the governing body! We are all men,(a couple female players) and can handle toejam talking! It is part of the game! Some enjoy it, some don't.....what about the boys during WWII who wrote "Happy Birthday Hitler" on bombs before they dropped them? IT'S HUMAN NATURE.
Let the people play! Let them play the way they want to! Sure, if some says the F-Word, or something of that nature then...fine, lmute them. But don't give the power to some random system of reporting to do the job, or some over zealous MOD. I've seen entire groups of people leave this game, SIMPLY because of the over bearing governing body.
If HiTech wants to save this small niche online game, then they HAVE to get rid of online MODS, first-off. Secondly, get rid of 200 in general! The problems it causes is ridiculous and there is no place for it. Allow PMs but only if the person wants to receive them. The salute system will be the only way to communicate with another person (good job, nice shot, WTG, etc). Another thing that would need to be fixed is the ability of a squad to mute a player simply through mass .reports. In the posters world, this could be considered bullying, and I have personally seen it done.
If you are truly worried about declining numbers then fix what is broken and stop trying to micro-manage EVERY SINGLE COMMUNICATION IN THE GAME!
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How is it not the answer? :huh
This subject will only grind my gears to the point where i can't handle. I am a firm believer that if you can't stand up for your own self and fight like a man then you are worthless. Also that everyone now a days is a "hypersensitive" and can't handle a little hardship in their life.
I agree 100%. I would also have to say that there is a huge age difference within AH, compared to other game platforms. The "hypersensitivity" seems to be more prevalent within AH. I could only imagine what would happen if a few typical players (45+ years old) from AH played just a few minutes of COD, BF4 or something the younger generation is playing, they would spend all their time reporting lol.
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This post is sickening. Why do people care so much about controlling others and how they play the game? If it is such a problem (PMs, 200, etc) then why aren't those communication avenues closed? Equating this "issue" to why the numbers are declining is ABSURD. The reason I left the game was because of PEOPLE like the poster. Making a thread about bullying? Are you serious? Comparing it to people committing suicide?
I far too often got muted for saying something on 200 that some "mod" found wasn't to their liking. The problem within AH is the governing body! We are all men,(a couple female players) and can handle toejam talking! It is part of the game! Some enjoy it, some don't.....what about the boys during WWII who wrote "Happy Birthday Hitler" on bombs before they dropped them? IT'S HUMAN NATURE.
Let the people play! Let them play the way they want to! Sure, if some says the F-Word, or something of that nature then...fine, lmute them. But don't give the power to some random system of reporting to do the job, or some over zealous MOD. I've seen entire groups of people leave this game, SIMPLY because of the over bearing governing body.
If HiTech wants to save this small niche online game, then they HAVE to get rid of online MODS, first-off. Secondly, get rid of 200 in general! The problems it causes is ridiculous and there is no place for it. Allow PMs but only if the person wants to receive them. The salute system will be the only way to communicate with another person (good job, nice shot, WTG, etc). Another thing that would need to be fixed is the ability of a squad to mute a player simply through mass .reports. In the posters world, this could be considered bullying, and I have personally seen it done.
If you are truly worried about declining numbers then fix what is broken and stop trying to micro-manage EVERY SINGLE COMMUNICATION IN THE GAME!
Torcch - don't misunderstand the original post. This is not about the banter / smack talk / jibes etc - whatever you want to call it. I have no issue with that. This is about actions towards other players that are intended to make their gaming experience as uncomfortable as possible and very often results in them logging off. We do not want that, we want people to want to come play.
The <bully> mentioned in my original post has not responded to this post. Nor has he responded on 200 when messages of support were posted. He did feel it right to tune in to my vox and via expletives tell me what he thought of me and my stance.
You guys sugar coat it all you like. Game banter / smack talk is fine. Bullying people out of the game is not.
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Torcch - don't misunderstand the original post. This is not about the banter / smack talk / jibes etc - whatever you want to call it. I have no issue with that. This is about actions towards other players that are intended to make their gaming experience as uncomfortable as possible and very often results in them logging off. We do not want that, we want people to want to come play.
The <bully> mentioned in my original post has not responded to this post. Nor has he responded on 200 when messages of support were posted. He did feel it right to tune in to my vox and via expletives tell me what he thought of me and my stance.
You guys sugar coat it all you like. Game banter / smack talk is fine. Bullying people out of the game is not.
Wou speaking in terms of "WE" is the very reason people are leaving. You should focus on playing the game, and having fun, more than worrying about everyone else.
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Saw Fury tonight, was great. This thread is garbage and hypocritical.
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Wou speaking in terms of "WE" is the very reason people are leaving. You should focus on playing the game, and having fun, more than worrying about everyone else.
lol Seriously. Me speaking up for others is the reason people are leaving?? You got me there, I have no response to that stupidity.
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Saw Fury tonight, was great. This thread is garbage and hypocritical.
Why is it garbage and hypocritical?
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lol Seriously. Me speaking up for others is the reason people are leaving?? You got me there, I have no response to that stupidity.
What I wrote was stupid? Does that mean I am stupid? Thanks. I guess I can go find a belt, and closet because I'm stupid. Stupid is worth nothing in the world. Good bye world.
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HTC has always allowed accepted and asked for the Aces High Community to self police itself in-game! period
so what Fess has described in his opening post is within 100% of what HTC expects from the AH community in my personal understanding and view
someone posted that they know of "entire groups of players" who have left because of the so called "HTC allowed governing by Moderators" <---- not quoted word for word by the person who wrote it but still, out of being here since '99, I have yet to see or hear of "entire groups" leaving because of the way the community self polices itself nor how the HTC vetted Moderators do their jobs!
if they left, they left because they did not like hitech's sandbox that he lets us all have the privilege of playing in! or they perhaps lost a few members because of being banned, so the rest left... just guessing
The only thing in this thread that I might not would have typed myself was the comparing in-game text buffer/pm's / vox back to something that happened the WWII era...... ( I am not trying to back seat moderate here, but people should refresh themselves with what the forum posting rules are, it might help you not get your thread locked... I am thinking of rule 14 I believe??? )
I was not online nor even know of the incident, but I would guess that Fess was not the only person to stand up and call the person out for "bullying", I would assume their were probably some others who backed his call of the situation.....
TC
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If somebody is being abusive, and you send Scooby a screenshot of their text, or .ahf file if they say it on voice it will be dealt with swiftly.
It's really that simple.
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This post is sickening. Why do people care so much about controlling others and how they play the game? If it is such a problem (PMs, 200, etc) then why aren't those communication avenues closed? Equating this "issue" to why the numbers are declining is ABSURD. The reason I left the game was because of PEOPLE like the poster. Making a thread about bullying? Are you serious? Comparing it to people committing suicide?
I far too often got muted for saying something on 200 that some "mod" found wasn't to their liking. The problem within AH is the governing body! We are all men,(a couple female players) and can handle toejam talking! It is part of the game! Some enjoy it, some don't.....what about the boys during WWII who wrote "Happy Birthday Hitler" on bombs before they dropped them? IT'S HUMAN NATURE.
Let the people play! Let them play the way they want to! Sure, if some says the F-Word, or something of that nature then...fine, lmute them. But don't give the power to some random system of reporting to do the job, or some over zealous MOD. I've seen entire groups of people leave this game, SIMPLY because of the over bearing governing body.
If HiTech wants to save this small niche online game, then they HAVE to get rid of online MODS, first-off. Secondly, get rid of 200 in general! The problems it causes is ridiculous and there is no place for it. Allow PMs but only if the person wants to receive them. The salute system will be the only way to communicate with another person (good job, nice shot, WTG, etc). Another thing that would need to be fixed is the ability of a squad to mute a player simply through mass .reports. In the posters world, this could be considered bullying, and I have personally seen it done.
If you are truly worried about declining numbers then fix what is broken and stop trying to micro-manage EVERY SINGLE COMMUNICATION IN THE GAME!
I spend the first 10 minutes after logging in on squelching players that seem to enjoy going out of their way to harass other players. Thats because I just don't want to be bothered by their childish behavior. If your getting muted when you played, then you went over the line, and to some of us, that line is a bit too lenient. If you can't control your self even a bit then you deserve to be muted. There is always some Ahole that goes over board and ruins the party for everyone else. Time to grow up and be a bit more responsible.
But we are talking bulling here, not the general smack talk that goes on. When it is taken to far and the attacks become personal they MUST be dealt with. An on line game isn't like real life (nor war time :rolleyes: ) If someone wants to get personal I can take it outside and "handle it like a man" as some of you say, but in the game there isn't that option. If that option was available here I bet you'd see a lot less Aholes in the game, most likely because they would get tired of getting the crap knocked out of them.
This is HTC playground and EVERYONE has to play by their rules. Whether you read contract you agreed to when you signed up or not that is the way it is. If you can't play nice, you cant play at all.
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Luckily 'most' players see a nasty PM as comedic childishness.
The best response is usually no response at all.
Some take it as an acknowledgement of their skill being accused of cheating, aimbot or hacking.
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Good bye world.
See? You guys bullied Torcch right into suicide.
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.squelch playerID
.report playerID
then return to normal gaming letting the <bully> get filled all up with spite and bile that you're not responding. It's his blood pressure, not yours, leave him to it.
^ This is really the best course of action.
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See? You guys bullied Torcch right into suicide.
I'm still getting over the fact that you think my flying sucks, :uhoh I don't think I can fly anymore so today I shall drown my sorrows in alcohol and go see the shrink first thing in the morning. Of course after I start a Facebook campaign against all tragedies in the world. :old:
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This thread is garbage because it serves no purpose, if an act was so bad that you needed to make a thread about it...
.report is all you needed to type
200 is detonable Waystin2 plays this game without using 200 and he has isn't missing anything
Now as far as the hypocritical stuff, it is a lot of the players who have came in here trying to take the high and mighty route....but I can say I have seen them talking crap about some noob hiding in the AAA or flopping around like a fish.
As TC said, HTC likes us to police our own, so if you see something that deserves a .report (Like talking politics on 200) then do it
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If the things people say over the internert truely and deeply bother you, just go to therapy.
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This thread is garbage because it serves no purpose, if an act was so bad that you needed to make a thread about it...
.report is all you needed to type
As explained earlier, .report does nothing in this context.
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Since when is it the object of this game to humiliate people?
The object of the game is to piss the other guy off. 200 is worth the $14.95 a month in itself. :x
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Hi, my name is Scott...and I did my first and last rage text on pm and 200 Friday night :bhead..apparently beer inflates my ego..my apologizes to all who witnessed my immature and childish behaviour..I just really didn't wanna lose v88...again I apologIze :salute
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Hi Scott!
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Hi Scott!
LOL hi glzsqd
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Why is it garbage and hypocritical?
I am sure you can figure out the latter.
We sure had a lot of laughs on Country and PM last night over the duplicity.
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I spend the first 10 minutes after logging in on squelching players that seem to enjoy going out of their way to harass other players. Thats because I just don't want to be bothered by their childish behavior. If your getting muted when you played, then you went over the line, and to some of us, that line is a bit too lenient. If you can't control your self even a bit then you deserve to be muted. There is always some Ahole that goes over board and ruins the party for everyone else. Time to grow up and be a bit more responsible.
But we are talking bulling here, not the general smack talk that goes on. When it is taken to far and the attacks become personal they MUST be dealt with. An on line game isn't like real life (nor war time :rolleyes: ) If someone wants to get personal I can take it outside and "handle it like a man" as some of you say, but in the game there isn't that option. If that option was available here I bet you'd see a lot less Aholes in the game, most likely because they would get tired of getting the crap knocked out of them.
This is HTC playground and EVERYONE has to play by their rules. Whether you read contract you agreed to when you signed up or not that is the way it is. If you can't play nice, you cant play at all.
An excellent reason to add a script feature so we can have certain idiots squelched automatically.
As for the personal stuff....people who go that far need to be booted permanently.
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I am sure you can figure out the latter.
We sure had a lot of laughs on Country and PM last night over the duplicity.
had to Google duplicity LOL nope that wasn't me you're refeRring to :)
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had to Google duplicity LOL nope that wasn't me you're refeRring to :)
Not at all, Scott. I have never had a problem with you. I suspect few, if any, have. :salute
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Not at all, Scott. I have never had a problem with you. I suspect few, if any, have. :salute
:salute :cheers:
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^ This is really the best course of action.( referring to .report and .squelch)
Luckily 'most' players see a nasty PM as comedic childishness.
The best response is usually no response at all.
Some take it as an acknowledgement of their skill being accused of cheating, aimbot or hacking.
Those of who have been here awhile know these things, but not the new players. These are the ones we are hoping to retain.
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I am a firm believer that if you can't stand up for your own self and fight like a man then you are worthless. Also that everyone now a days is a "hypersensitive" and can't handle a little hardship in their life.
Admirable, but beside the point.
The AvA had some vivid experience with this. There was a particular group of players (not going to name names, but Storch comes to mind) who would trash-talk incessantly. Lusche and some of the other oldtimers will remember this. Ultimately the perps drove nearly everyone out of the arena because people simply do not want to fly in a place where others are making fun of them. It may be cowardice, it may be over-sensitivity, or it may be simply that it's unpleasant to sit in a theater that smells like pee, even if the movie is great. The final result is that people leave.
- oldman
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Not at all, Scott. I have never had a problem with you. I suspect few, if any, have. :salute
I got a problem with him, he dont show up on my kill list :devil
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Admirable, but beside the point.
The AvA had some vivid experience with this. There was a particular group of players (not going to name names, but Storch comes to mind) who would trash-talk incessantly. Lusche and some of the other oldtimers will remember this. Ultimately the perps drove nearly everyone out of the arena because people simply do not want to fly in a place where others are making fun of them. It may be cowardice, it may be over-sensitivity, or it may be simply that it's unpleasant to sit in a theater that smells like pee, even if the movie is great. The final result is that people leave.
- oldman
There used to be about 6 I would squelch as soon as I signed on. He was one.
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I am a firm believer that if you can't stand up for your own self and fight like a man then you are worthless.
Ever heard of the Bataan death march?
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Ever heard of the Bataan death march?
Get this garbage out of here. COMPLETELY blown out of proportion with this comment. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CYBER BULLYING! :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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I got a problem with him, he dont show up on my kill list :devil
:rofl I do get killed by you plenty you bully!! :rofl
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Get this garbage out of here. COMPLETELY blown out of proportion with this comment. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CYBER BULLYING! :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
Chill baby.
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:rofl I do get killed by you plenty you bully!! :rofl
I have reported Scott lots of times :old:
He always looks at me in a unsavoury manner :cry
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Ever heard of the Bataan death march?
:rolleyes: Pointless issue and you bring up the Bataan Death March??????
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I have reported Scott lots of times :old:
He always looks at me in a unsavoury manner :cry
stop wearing that pink tutu with the yellow thong and I will :neener:
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I've felt bullied in AH numerous times endless cheat accusations and paranoia.
It didn't drive me away but only increased the need to kill said people. Shame there aren't enough hours in the day. ;)
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Torcch - don't misunderstand the original post. This is not about the banter / smack talk / jibes etc - whatever you want to call it. I have no issue with that. This is about actions towards other players that are intended to make their gaming experience as uncomfortable as possible and very often results in them logging off. We do not want that, we want people to want to come play.
The <bully> mentioned in my original post has not responded to this post. Nor has he responded on 200 when messages of support were posted. He did feel it right to tune in to my vox and via expletives tell me what he thought of me and my stance.
You guys sugar coat it all you like. Game banter / smack talk is fine. Bullying people out of the game is not.
lol You are kidding me. The subject that you speak of bullying others. First you should get your facts right about the situation you speak of. The bully ask the bullied lol if that was his shade account then the bullied responded with the first shot across the bow so to speak lol. I think you need to mind your on business and grow a thicker skin and stop with the tattle telling. Just use the squelch and report problem solved.
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lol you are kidding me. The subject that you speak of bullying others. First you should get your facts right the person you speak of ask the bullied lol if that was his shade account then the bullied then responded with the first shot across the bow so to speak lol. I think you need to my your on business and grow a thicker skin and stop with the tattle telling. Just use the squelch and report problem solved.
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