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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Chalenge on October 22, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
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Kepler and Fermi drivers are available to bring Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) support to those GPUs. This is my favorite part of Maxwell and now you can have it without having to upgrade.
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Kepler and Fermi drivers are available to bring Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) support to those GPUs. This is my favorite part of Maxwell and now you can have it without having to upgrade.
Doh!, beat me to it.
Anywho, here's the link Nvidia Driver 344.48 (http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/78873/en-us)
Coogan
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And Nvidia fixed the bug in the Geforce Experience software so it works again with SweetFX.
ack-ack
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GeForce Experience required to run DSR? I was hoping it wasn't, as I was on 344.16, and I noticed a few other minor bugs, but in this new version I'm also finding that it won't appear in the specific 3D configs for many older games.
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GeForce Experience has also been causing problems with the film viewer. Hopefully that is fixed as well.
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I wonder why Nvidia wants us to experience the negative experiences that Geforce Experience seems to 'offer'. I never install it.
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GeForce Experience required to run DSR? I was hoping it wasn't, as I was on 344.16, and I noticed a few other minor bugs, but in this new version I'm also finding that it won't appear in the specific 3D configs for many older games.
I don't use the Experience app. The way I got it working in AH is to configure for a single monitor and then even at 1920x1080 you can activate DSR from the Nvidia Control Panel Global Settings panel. If it shows up on an individual games settings I have not seen it. You should then be able to turn off AA and still see the effect of AA through downsampling, but of course it will depend on how far you push the factors setting. My system is fairly high-end and at 1920x1080 I get the worst performance at 50fps in AH offline with everything active and the highest texture settings. It does significantly improve at higher resolutions.
EDIT: I was mis-remembering. When I tried to turn AA up to x2 my frames dropped to 50fps. With AA off you cannot tell that you are not using AA and my frame counter remains at 59-60 (I believe the 59 is a Windows issue).
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D'ld it yesterday but haven't installed them.
When I do I'll post back on how it went w/ my 780Ti.
Looks like I may have got my new 2133Hz quad channel mem kit just in time........................
:D
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Ok, I have installed the Nvidia 344.48 drivers (installed the graphics driver & Physix software only).
Went into NVCP......DSR was there. After I set up the rest of the driver settings to my "defaults".....I set the DSR to 1.2%(native resolution......2560 x 1440 on my box) & DSR smoothness to 80%.
Went in AH & checked the resolution setting choices under Video Settings & guess what I saw....the DSR created res of 2804 x 1577! I picked it & saved.
Then went into the game & I could see the new res being applied....
Picked a field & went up in me ole Spitty & all was looking very good....780Ti was handling the DSR created res very well w/ no hiccups at all.
Very impressive I must say.
At this point it looks like a winner from my perspective.
More testing on the horizon to see how all performs at greater DSR % but it's looking good on my box at this moment.
Increasing the mem frequency another 533Hz brought some more zing to my old crate as well....very noticeable performance improvement...not necessarily FPS as this box was already running 59-60 FPS on the DDR3 1600 kit but the increased control response (read less lag between the stick being moved to the screen response in kind) & snappiness along w/ smoothness of the graphics (read lower graphics frame timing here) that I saw & felt due to the increased mem speed of the 2133Hz quad channel mem kit over the 1600Hz quad channel mem kit has got to help as well.
:aok :D :salute
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Good AAR Pudgie. I'm going to try it out tonight myself with AH, only on a 1080P monitor, but one of the best 1080p TN panels at least. I usually see 143/144 fps with AH with the 144hz monitor max setting, I'm interested to see the performance and look of DSR on it. Good news is that my 15 day wait list for the ROG Swift is over, I snagged one this afternoon and they shipped it already, might have it by the weekend if I luck out. I really am looking forward to DSR with Gsync at 1440p and 144hz, so long as it's all working together now.
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Yes, Pudgie put in a few details I forgot to throw in, like setting your native resolution in NCP, and then you will find the DSR resolution in the AH window. You can check as many options in NCP as you like and they will all show up as options in AH. It's going to take some time to settle on a favorite configuration.
I really love the weld lines on the JagdPanzers just to start with. It's almost like exploring a whole new game for the moment.
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Roger that, Chalenge!
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I agree Chalenge, this is pretty cool. AH is hitting a really sweet spot IMO with these new capabilities from Nvidia and various monitor makers, with the new update coming. Even without it, there is a pile of cool stuff to look at in a new way in the current game. I'm pretty impressed.
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I made another run w/ DSR set @ 2.25% native resolution & 80% smoothness.
This puts the DSR created res at 4K (3840 x 2160).
AH was friggin beautiful & the 780Ti ran this w/ no issues at a steady 59-60 FPS.
I had a much larger post going that included all my settings on my box but I forgot to hit post again after I did the 1st time & got the warning message when you posted Gman.......too worn out to retype it now....... :old:
I also believe that Nvidia has a winner going here...........poor man's way to have 4K (or greater) res quality on yesterday's hardware & performance.
Pretty brave thing to do just after launching their latest flagship products w/ this same capability................... ...
:aok :salute
PS--Forgot to mention that at 4K DSR created res the ole GTX 780Ti was pushed to the max....using 92%-95% GPU power to maintain 59-60 FPS at 1020MHz w/ GPU temps at 70*C-72*C w/ fan at 100% but she hung it there!
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Yes, pretty brave I guess. . . or generous.
I think we are going to need a patch for AH so that text is still readable. I have my fonts set to maximum already, and it's really tough with 4.0x factors. Or. . . maybe there is a setting in AH I don't know about.
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Yes, pretty brave I guess. . . or generous.
I think we are going to need a patch for AH so that text is still readable. I have my fonts set to maximum already, and it's really tough with 4.0x factors. Or. . . maybe there is a setting in AH I don't know about.
Yep I can see them being generous as well due to what we paid for this hardware........good way to keep a few more customers around.......marketing ploy.
Roger that on the text!
I also am set at max fonts as well & I wear cheaters w/ bifocals to boot......................... . :old:
:salute
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Well, I would create a wish list item, but I am hoping Skuzzy comes along in the morning and tells us how to do it.
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Yes, pretty brave I guess. . . or generous.
I think we are going to need a patch for AH so that text is still readable. I have my fonts set to maximum already, and it's really tough with 4.0x factors. Or. . . maybe there is a setting in AH I don't know about.
wow, good thing I kept reading or I would have missed the thing about text. I thought my gpu wasnt handling the higher resolution well. everything looks pretty cool. I can pick individual ack guns on the fields from further out. I was flying low over trees and it was awesome.
semp
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I can't believe how great everything looks in AH. At 4.0 this AM just messing around offline, I can't believe how stuff looks, and the detail and ability to pick little things out, like ack guns such as Semp was saying. Very, very cool. The small text is...small, but I'll tolerate it for now. I tried some mid level settings, and was able to find a DSR in the middle of the road sort of setting where I could still read the text, but still see some big benefits. 4.0 looks so amazing though.
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I guess I have to be 'that' guy *sigh*.
I have an EVGA GTX-780SC with 3GB. I upgraded to 344.48 yesterday.
When I open up the Global Settings tab of the Manage 3D Settings program, DSR - Factors is not showing up in settings.
Did I miss an important step?
Thanks for any help.
:salute
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How many monitors are you using and at what resolution?
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Three.
5980x1080.
Uh oh.
:salute
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Yes, you might try it with just one. :aok
EDIT: You can get it to work in surround, but only in 3-way SLI.
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Kepler and Fermi drivers are available to bring Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) support to those GPUs. This is my favorite part of Maxwell and now you can have it without having to upgrade.
looked on the site, but cant see anything that says a GTX760 will do DSR?
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Yes, you might try it with just one. :aok
EDIT: You can get it to work in surround, but only in 3-way SLI.
Reconfigured the surround.
Set middle monitor to Primary.
I set some modest parameters and ran at 1920x1080.
Flew Aces High.
Wow.
I'm going back in to play with the resolution.
I traded my two 760's for a single 780. No SLI for me for awhile.
Thanks for your response.
:salute
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looked on the site, but cant see anything that says a GTX760 will do DSR?
I would bet it will.
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DSR-Factors 4.00x.
3840x2160 (native resolution).
Cranked smoothness up to 100%.
Aces High frame rates above 60fps in all regimes.
It looks very nice.
I suppose I'd better get that savings plan going for a second GTX780.
Great Thread!
:salute
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found DSR (1.2 at 50% for starters)
disabled AA
went into AH and all I get is 2100x1100 (prolly cuz im on a panisonic HDTV)
anyway, when I go into AH and hit CNTL I, it tells me the amount of mem im using but not the FPS.
thoughts?
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I think I've honed in on what I will call optimized DSR res.................
In Nvidia 344.48 driver's NVCP:
Of course I'm sticking w/ DSR factors set @ 2.25% native resolution (2560x1440 native res x 2.25% factors = 3840x2160 or 4K) & 80% smoothness.
Dropped AA from 16xCSAA all the way down to 2x (least amount of AA to be applied at Nvidia driver level), TransAA down to Multisample (least amount of transparent sampling to be applied at Nvidia driver level). Kept FXAA enabled to offload the GPU some by using the CC's to post process AA & all other alpha graphics driver settings are set at max (AF, TF & Vsynch).
In AH Video Settings (alpha graphics settings) & in-game settings (beta graphics settings):
Video Settings------Vsynch is disabled & AA slider set to None (disabled) so all in-game alpha graphics are set/controlled by the Nvidia driver.
In-game beta graphics settings--------Object Detail & Detail Distance sliders are full left (max) w/ gamma set at 1.0. Disabled other planes skins, display horizon & enable ground clutter are enabled. In Advanced section all boxes are checked (enabled all shadows, detailed water, buildings, etc), EM box checked (enables environmental mapping) w/ slider set at 1 notch off full updates.
Game runs very smooth holding 59-60 FPS so far thruout & the graphics are friggin beautiful...........looks like a whole new game! Gonna be interesting how all this is gonna work out w/ the new AH graphics update that is coming........
Checked my 780Ti in PrecisionX:
Vid card was running steady at BIOS-set max boost clocks of 1020 MHz (ref 780ti w/ base clocks 876 & boost clocks 980) & mem running steady at 3499 MHz using 92%-96% GPU power (max power @ 100% @ 1.2v....actual @ 1.175v....pretty close) holding GPU temps @ 63*C-70*C w/ fan speed @ 100% (using custom fan speed control profile in PrecisionX to set fan at 100% power @ 60*C = 4,136 RPM's). Vid card mem usage hit 1.17 Gb so my 780Ti is being pushed pretty hard.......
Any raising of either AA or TransAA settings or moving the EM to full updates from the current settings that I gave will start causing micro stutters.
All my hardware is set up & running on stock out-of-the-box settings: I7 4820K CPU is optimized based off AI Overclock X.M.P. setting (uses the SPD readout of the system mem to optimize the CPU accordingly so CPU is optimized off the SPD readout of the Mushkin Stealth 16Gb DDR3 2133Hz 4x4Gb quad channel mem kit (mem timings, voltage, etc are also set in BIOS to comply)...see sig below. The GTX 780Ti is running stock as well. I have some OC headroom to use but I'll save all that for the new graphics update....if it's needed.
It's all good....except for that tiny text....real hard to read them icons but when your already wearing cheaters w/ bifocals well you know.....................
:old: :D
This is where I landed at using DSR. Can't see me turning this off, period!
Alright time's up. Gotta get back to flying & drooling..................... ....
:D :rock :salute
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Will this improve my gtx680?
It is saying it is not compatible with my version of windows?
Its windows 7?
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Hi Zack,
It can help w/ improving the graphical image quality output of your 680 by telling the CPU/vid card to draw & render graphics frames at a higher resolution which can give a better looking graphical image then the GPU will then down sample the image so that it will then fit within your existing monitor's native resolution......
Now whether this can help w/ getting your 680 to perform better will depend on various factors that only you can discern, but to give 1 example of a potential performance gain:
If you're using high amounts of AA & TransAA (supersampling) at your monitor's native resolution of, say 1920x1080, these methods of smoothing the edges of graphic images require a lot of GPU rendering power to do smoothly. You can trade off some of the GPU rendering power used to apply the AA & TransAA to the same graphics frame at 1920x1080 by rendering it at a much higher resolution, say 3840x2160 (4K) using very little AA or TransAA or using none at all then have the GPU to down sample the finished 3840x2160 graphics frame back down to 1920x1080 resolution...you can get a much improved graphics image that can be displayed at your monitor's native res, takes up no more of the frame buffer as a std 1920x1080 graphics frame, rendered for less GPU power needed (here is where the graphics card performance improvement can come from) that looks much better. In short the finished graphics image will look like, walk like & smell like a fully rendered 3840x2160 image but it will fit on your 1920x1080 monitor's display area.........
But if you were already not using AA & TransAA to start with at your monitor's native resolution & you used DSR as described above you could lose more GPU performance in the process of gaining a better graphics image........................ ..
Does this explaination help to make sense of all this? I hope so as I'm worn out from trying to keep it as simple as I could & not mess up.
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Hope this helps you out...............
:salute
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Will this improve my gtx680?
It is saying it is not compatible with my version of windows?
Its windows 7?
What Pudgie said.
+ the 680 is not really optimized for the higher DSR extremes and some of the advanced aliasing methods, so the return probably will not be quite as easy as with the 750Ti and above.
As to compatibility, I'm betting the automatic scanner decided to give you the 32-bit version. It does that sometimes.
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Hey All,
Shout out if you're gunnery hits % seem to go up when shooting cons under DSR.......................
Been flying most of the day & every con that I lined up & shot at blew up on the 1st short burst of fire......
Almost seemed like I was sniping them cons instead of having to make a couple or more bursts just to get hits & damage.
Right now I'm REALLY liking this DSR stuff...................excep t for the small text but I'll get some new peeps if I have to............ :old:
:D :aok
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These threads are awesome for software idiots like me :)
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After updating to the the 344.48 driver, I can't open NVIDEA Control Panel. I have tried goiung to the executable in the root folder, accessing it from right-clicking the desktop, and in the systray.
For the life of me, can't figure it out. Having said that, the driver works great. I note a noticable improvement in Shadowplay performance, more sharpness/contrast, and for whatever reason, I seem to get better FPS where I usually drop into the 30s (high 40s-50s).
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Amm, you probably need to uninstall it, clean your system of Nvidia drivers, and then reinstall.
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Is this something can download and try with my NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760?
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It's simply the latest driver, so yes.