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Title: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots, prioritize perked rides
Post by: Drane on November 14, 2014, 06:36:36 PM
Just lost a hard earned 262 to mass disco. No damage, just cruising towards a fight.

It's not HiTechs fault but, if # of slots are limited could perked rides be prioritized to be put back in flight?
Title: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots, prioritize perked rides
Post by: MrKrabs on November 15, 2014, 01:32:08 AM
First come first serve

Even if we still didn't have re-connect the risk is still yours. And if it WAS a server-end disconnection no perks are lost. If it was an ISP mass disco or a hub disco then it is still your risk either way and first come first serve...

-1
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: xPoisonx on November 15, 2014, 02:03:41 AM
First come first serve

Even if we still didn't have re-connect the risk is still yours. And if it WAS a server-end disconnection no perks are lost. If it was an ISP mass disco or a hub disco then it is still your risk either way and first come first serve...

-1

Not everyone has 10 zillion perks  :neener:
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: bozon on November 15, 2014, 12:28:27 PM
Not everyone has 10 zillion perks  :neener:
Only those that fly Spit16s, La7s and P51D as their main rides don't... so, 80% of the players  :P
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: xPoisonx on November 15, 2014, 02:16:02 PM
Only those that fly Spit16s, La7s and P51D as their main rides don't... so, 80% of the players  :P


I fly the 38g and mossie quite a bit... 36 perks  :cry
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Lusche on November 15, 2014, 02:22:14 PM
Only those that fly Spit16s, La7s and P51D as their main rides don't... so, 80% of the players  :P


Even with flying mid ENY rides, the average MA pilot takes a long time to gather the perks for even a single Me 262. And by 'long', we are speaking about months, not days...  :old:
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: bozon on November 15, 2014, 04:58:09 PM
Even with flying mid ENY rides, the average MA pilot takes a long time to gather the perks for even a single Me 262. And by 'long', we are speaking about months, not days...  :old:
La5 is 30 ENY which is crazy. Mean effective ENY by your stats is around 12 iirc. It takes probably around 70-80 kills in La5 to get a 262, assuming you land some of them, and a large fraction of the players can do that in 1 tour or less. In any case, fewer 262s is better for the game.
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Lusche on November 15, 2014, 05:25:06 PM
La5 is 30 ENY which is crazy. Mean effective ENY by your stats is around 12 iirc. It takes probably around 70-80 kills in La5 to get a 262, assuming you land some of them, and a large fraction of the players can do that in 1 tour or less.


Actually only a small (~20%) fraction of the players get so many (or more) kills in attack and fighter mode combined in a single tour. And that's with their favourite plane set and not in the La-5 - which is indeed absurdely overpowered for an ENY 30 plane, but still would probably increase the difficulty for many players to get their share of kills in.

The median kill/h for all players with at least 10 fighter sorties in tour 177 was 3.55 and their median total time in fighter+attack mode was about 13h. There are not that many fighter perks Joe Average will be able to earn in a tour with stats like that. Something 50 perks / tour is probably a good estimate of average perk gain per tour, 100 perks should set you significantly above average.

Back in the day, when I was making about fighter 1,000 perks per tour myself,  I would have thought "200 perks for a 262, piece of cake", but that was before I was able to analyze the actual stats of all other pilots. Later I realized how much we old AH vets tend to overrate the capabilities and efforts of the average MA pilot.

Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 16, 2014, 12:51:37 AM
Only those that fly Spit16s, La7s and P51D as their main rides don't... so, 80% of the players  :P


I fly only the p51.  I have thousands of perks.


semp
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: xPoisonx on November 17, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
I fly only the p51.  I have thousands of perks.


semp

How long have you been playing?
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 17, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
How long have you been playing?

perhaps you should ask why I have thousands of perks and not how long it took me to earn them.



semp
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Someguy63 on November 17, 2014, 01:14:17 PM
perhaps you should ask why I have thousands of perks and not how long it took me to earn them.



semp

I believe the answer you'd give him should be the same answer to the question he asked?
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 17, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
I believe the answer you'd give him should be the same answer to the question he asked?

ok I have been playing for about 8 years.  3 or 4 times I have given up accounts with thousands of perks just to change names or because I rage quit.  I have had this account for about 5 years now maybe a little longer.  I have been known the fly 262's to find cv's then bail out and bring b26's to sink them.  I once lost 8 out of 9 b29's because somebody dare me that i couldnt take off in them from a certain field.  I lost 2k tank perks once because I got into a firefight with dr7 with tigers as he would kill me, i would up then kill him.  we did that many times till I finally ran out of perks.  he still had a few thousand left, we had a good laugh.

so I answer his question.  now does he want to know why I have thousands of perks and not how long I have been playing?


semp
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Someguy63 on November 17, 2014, 02:20:37 PM
ok I have been playing for about 8 years.  3 or 4 times I have given up accounts with thousands of perks just to change names or because I rage quit.  I have had this account for about 5 years now maybe a little longer.  I have been known the fly 262's to find cv's then bail out and bring b26's to sink them.  I once lost 8 out of 9 b29's because somebody dare me that i couldnt take off in them from a certain field.  I lost 2k tank perks once because I got into a firefight with dr7 with tigers as he would kill me, i would up then kill him.  we did that many times till I finally ran out of perks.  he still had a few thousand left, we had a good laugh.

so I answer his question.  now does he want to know why I have thousands of perks and not how long I have been playing?


semp

No, anyone would know why you have thousands of perks due to the fact that you have a lengthy amount of time under your wings.
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 17, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
No, anyone would know why you have thousands of perks due to the fact that you have a lengthy amount of time under your wings.

no, actually is because i dont waste them on some stupid 262 suicide run.  there was a guy that I knew that would up a tempest every time he got enough perks for one and he would die within 10 minutes.

and btw 80% of the players have been around for more than a couple of years and yet they dont have thousands of perks.  what does that tell you.


semp
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: xPoisonx on November 17, 2014, 10:14:23 PM
no, actually is because i dont waste them on some stupid 262 suicide run.  there was a guy that I knew that would up a tempest every time he got enough perks for one and he would die within 10 minutes.

and btw 80% of the players have been around for more than a couple of years and yet they dont have thousands of perks.  what does that tell you.


semp

You keep changing your argument. You JUST said you use 262s to find cvs then bail, and now you say you don't waste perks on some stupid 262 run? You say you have thousands of perks. Considering the highest a P51 can earn from 1 kill with a standard multiplier is 1 perk (not counting b29), you would have to have over two thousand kills, which takes a long time to accumulate (not even counting the 262s you say you use to find cvs). Unless you are some sort of killing machine (I have met you in the MA and can say that is for sure not true), then my assumption is correct.

Oh and you know what they say about statistics, 98.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot  :aok
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Someguy63 on November 17, 2014, 10:51:32 PM
You keep changing your argument. You JUST said you use 262s to find cvs then bail, and now you say you don't waste perks on some stupid 262 run? You say you have thousands of perks. Considering the highest a P51 can earn from 1 kill with a standard multiplier is 1 perk (not counting b29), you would have to have over two thousand kills, which takes a long time to accumulate (not even counting the 262s you say you use to find cvs). Unless you are some sort of killing machine (I have met you in the MA and can say that is for sure not true), then my assumption is correct.

Oh and you know what they say about statistics, 98.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot  :aok

Ok 80% of players, I see.

But what about you, if you said you fly P51's which are low ENY and produce little perk gain, you don't waste your perks on perk-planes, the only possible reason you could have so many perks is because of a lengthy amount of time played?

Especially considering that P51's are your main ride.
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 17, 2014, 11:18:21 PM
You keep changing your argument. You JUST said you use 262s to find cvs then bail, and now you say you don't waste perks on some stupid 262 run? You say you have thousands of perks. Considering the highest a P51 can earn from 1 kill with a standard multiplier is 1 perk (not counting b29), you would have to have over two thousand kills, which takes a long time to accumulate (not even counting the 262s you say you use to find cvs). Unless you are some sort of killing machine (I have met you in the MA and can say that is for sure not true), then my assumption is correct.

Oh and you know what they say about statistics, 98.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot  :aok

no, i said i have been known to use 262 to find cv's then bail.  while now I dont waste perks points.   I have about 8k perk points in fighters same of bombers and about 1700 for gv's.    my excuse for the low perks on gv's is because i bought the chfighterstick and I could never calibrate it for gv's.  and htat was about 2 or 3 years ago.


semp
Title: Re: DISCO
Post by: Lusche on November 17, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
I don't now what at this point the discussion is actually about... but I like numbers.

So digged up some data and found that semp had earned on average about 2 - 2.5 fighter perks per hour of flying in 2013.
Don't know if that proves or disproves any point currently being made...

(How I did find that?  Achievements told me how long it did take to earn 500 perks ... from 2/1/2013 to 11/19/2013 and scores showed me the hours flown in that time)


Oh the stuff you do at 6.a.m...   :bhead
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: Someguy63 on November 17, 2014, 11:32:30 PM
no, i said i have been known to use 262 to find cv's then bail.  while now I dont waste perks points.   I have about 8k perk points in fighters same of bombers and about 1700 for gv's.    my excuse for the low perks on gv's is because i bought the chfighterstick and I could never calibrate it for gv's.  and htat was about 2 or 3 years ago.


semp

You could use a mouse and keyboard for gv's if you want.

Unless you have that kinda setup where it's much like a real cockpit. I dunno where those people have their keyboards.
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: xPoisonx on November 17, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
no, i said i have been known to use 262 to find cv's then bail.  while now I dont waste perks points.   I have about 8k perk points in fighters same of bombers and about 1700 for gv's.    my excuse for the low perks on gv's is because i bought the chfighterstick and I could never calibrate it for gv's.  and htat was about 2 or 3 years ago.


semp
"Have been known" does not imply no longer doing it. And no one mentioned gv or bomber perks. This is about fighter perks. In your second post you answered my question, you have many perks because of the amount of time you have been playing. The reason I asked you how long is because in your original statement that you have thousands of perks while flying the P51, you make it seem like the way you got those perks was through some other means then pure time ("ask me how I got them, not how long it took"... lol what?). Anyone can fly anything and have thousands of perks given enough time. Given a certain time frame such as a tour changes this greatly.

Looking at your achievement you earned 500 perks in slightly over 9 months.   :rofl
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: guncrasher on November 18, 2014, 12:23:43 AM
"Have been known" does not imply no longer doing it. And no one mentioned gv or bomber perks. This is about fighter perks. In your second post you answered my question, you have many perks because of the amount of time you have been playing. The reason I asked you how long is because in your original statement that you have thousands of perks while flying the P51, you make it seem like the way you got those perks was through some other means then pure time ("ask me how I got them, not how long it took"... lol what?). Anyone can fly anything and have thousands of perks given enough time. Given a certain time frame such as a tour changes this greatly.

Looking at your achievement you earned 500 perks in slightly over 9 months.   :rofl

500 perks in 9 months, let me break it down for you.  I tore the ligaments on my left foot at work.  that was back in April 7.  waited 2 months for my x55 to be available. had to get used to it as I couldnt use my pedals.  then again. even though i was on limited duty i was still working 6 days a week.  oh did I tell you than 2 months i hardly play?  took me another couple of months to get used to the pain of having torn ligaments.  then i even hardly played because of the pain on my ankle.  hold on did i tell you than it was really painful to play with my torn ligaments.?


so yes 500 perks in 9 months sound about right. so is 900  perks in 9 months with a lot of pain on your ankle a good job or a bad job.  I'll let you decide.

semp


edit: not including in the 9 months was the car accident I had which didnt let me play for almost a month. 

so which part are you laughing about?
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: bozon on November 18, 2014, 01:07:21 AM
no, actually is because i dont waste them on some stupid 262 suicide run.
what do you waste them on then? They just keep accumulating on my account even when I go strafing radars and GVs with 262s. About 13,000 fighter perks in 2.5 years, that is over 400 perks a month. Most of my kills are in an ENY=30 plane, so with landing bonuses I get about 3+ perks per kill (killing a lot of common low ENY fighters) and get between 100 and 200 kills per tour, so that is consistent.

I have no idea how many bomber perks I have. Once I got my first 30 to get into a Mosquito XVI I never lost a single bomber perk, so they are meaningless to me (yes I do fly the mossie XVI occasionally, a single one is just nearly unstoppable). I dont even have my game set up for GV driving (what is the acceleration key?) so I dont need GV perks.
Title: Re: DISCO-if limited number "put back in flight" slots
Post by: danny76 on November 19, 2014, 01:09:50 AM
500 perks in 9 months, let me break it down for you.  I tore the ligaments on my left foot at work.  that was back in April 7.  waited 2 months for my x55 to be available. had to get used to it as I couldnt use my pedals.  then again. even though i was on limited duty i was still working 6 days a week.  oh did I tell you than 2 months i hardly play?  took me another couple of months to get used to the pain of having torn ligaments.  then i even hardly played because of the pain on my ankle.  hold on did i tell you than it was really painful to play with my torn ligaments.?


so yes 500 perks in 9 months sound about right. so is 900  perks in 9 months with a lot of pain on your ankle a good job or a bad job.  I'll let you decide.

semp


edit: not including in the 9 months was the car accident I had which didnt let me play for almost a month. 

so which part are you laughing about?

Eh???  :headscratch: