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Title: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: glzsqd on December 14, 2014, 10:00:47 PM
I wish the Mid and Early war arenas were more populated. If you think about it the Mid and Early war only have a 1 Hour limit to country change, and the maps are nice and small :D. It's a furballer's Paradise all we need to do is populate it.

 The best part is this wish doesn't need Hitech and Skuzzy!
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: MrKrabs on December 14, 2014, 11:20:26 PM
We brought early war to late war and pwn'd the evildoers with our 40eny planes of justice!
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Latrobe on December 14, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
The best kept secret of AH2 is that the best planes are 30+ eny, not 5  :t
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: glzsqd on December 15, 2014, 12:52:14 AM
anything that does a 3500 fpm climb or more is useless and stupid.

Good visibility is also for nerds. We need more heavy framed cockpits!
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Latrobe on December 15, 2014, 01:00:18 AM
anything that does a 3500 fpm climb or more is useless and stupid.

Good visibility is also for nerds. We need more heavy framed cockpits!

My 109F says otherwise!  :P
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: MrKrabs on December 15, 2014, 01:02:44 AM
anything that does a 3500 fpm climb or more is useless and stupid.

Good visibility is also for nerds. We need more heavy framed cockpits!

Have you forgotten my G-6?
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Randy1 on December 15, 2014, 06:52:48 AM
I have suggested in the past to have one day a month that one of the other arenas be the only arena open for that day.  Of course the "Don't tell me what plane to fly." folks jumped on that. 

Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: oboe on December 15, 2014, 07:16:49 AM
Restrictions and penalties have always been unpopular with some percentage of the player base.

Have they ever tried inducements to Early or Mid War arenas?  Something like a perk multiplier where you can earn perks at 1.5x or 2x the rate of the Late War arena?    Could be advertised in a MTD pop up when players login maybe.

Really just trying to think of carrot vs stick approaches...
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Lusche on December 15, 2014, 07:43:45 AM
Restrictions and penalties have always been unpopular with some percentage of the player base.

Have they ever tried inducements to Early or Mid War arenas?  Something like a perk multiplier where you can earn perks at 1.5x or 2x the rate of the Late War arena?    Could be advertised in a MTD pop up when players login maybe.

Really just trying to think of carrot vs stick approaches...


The minor arenas are already used for perk/achievements farming. Things like this can only be pushed so far, there are some considerable gameplay downsides.
And while I always had wished for a healthy population in all arenas, we don't even have the numbers for that anymore. We can't even fill up the LW to a satisfying level in my timezone. I don't see much sense in trying to split up 60 players total over three arenas.


As a side remark, the EW didn't only suffer from a "my plane or nothing" attitude, but also a lot from the arena settings. For example for the most time the arena was utterly dominated by the Hurricane II, and having the same ack and town settings with a lot slower and lesss capable set of attack planes didn't work well either.
But the opportunity to change anything with a few tweaks is long gone.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Rich46yo on December 15, 2014, 03:15:29 PM
The best kept secret of AH2 is that the best planes are 30+ eny, not 5  :t

Flying LA-7s and Spiteens absolutely bores me to death.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: glzsqd on December 15, 2014, 03:31:00 PM

As a side remark, the EW didn't only suffer from a "my plane or nothing" attitude, but also a lot from the arena settings. For example for the most time the arena was utterly dominated by the Hurricane II, and having the same ack and town settings with a lot slower and lesss capable set of attack planes didn't work well either.
But the opportunity to change anything with a few tweaks is long gone.

That's a real shame. I feel like this arena has the most interesting plane line up.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Skyyr on December 15, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
I have suggested in the past to have one day a month that one of the other arenas be the only arena open for that day.  Of course the "Don't tell me what plane to fly." folks jumped on that. 

Why? So you can force players to play what you think they should? Watch how fast people quit over that, even if it was only one day a month.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: darkzking on December 15, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
NYAHAHAHAHA Midwar Arena were my p39 would still Be the Supreme fighter :airplane:
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: bustr on December 15, 2014, 04:59:01 PM
At least twice since the EW and MW were created, LW was down for a day. Everyone turned up in MW and never missed a beat with the hanger princesses and dog rides. Many did fly the P51B for the running ability and the P38 ruled with it's all around ability While the Hog and P47 were monsters. But, the 109\190 drivers still kicked arse. And the A6m's were even more irritating. Spit9's became prim donnas.

But, as soon as the dreaded word's "THE LW ARENA IS UPPPPPPP" came over text. All of the late war monster ride weenies bailed telling everyone, some literally, to go fudge themselves and their skill. 2\3 of the MW population disappeared in the next 5 minutes.

Just be happy software lag switches don't work in our game(?)
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 15, 2014, 08:52:52 PM
What is keeping EW and the MW (especially the MW arena) isn't the plane set but rather the game play by those regularly flying in both arenas.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: MrKrabs on December 15, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
What if you had to earn your way into Late-war?  :devil

Everything within reason is un-perked in EW and everything tier-wise is perked in higher arenas  :devil

Unfortunately people would have to fly something other than a Mustang then  :devil

And most bigger squads would end up being anchored to EW and MW while the chest-thumpers would/may populate LW
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Rob52240 on December 15, 2014, 10:40:30 PM
Have you ever flown in midwar before?

Those people are weird.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Someguy63 on December 15, 2014, 11:11:34 PM
Have you ever flown in midwar before?

Those people are weird.

They are.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: glzsqd on December 15, 2014, 11:55:42 PM
Almost every plane has a variant that can be found in at least the Midwar.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Someguy63 on December 16, 2014, 12:11:03 AM
Almost every plane has a variant that can be found in at least the Midwar.

 :old:
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: bustr on December 16, 2014, 05:22:14 AM
Mid war is a "pay for" HtH arena of yesteryear.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Oldman731 on December 16, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
Have you ever flown in midwar before?

Those people are weird.


Midwar still has some good people and some good fights.  The basic problem is that perks earned in EW or MW are transferable to LW; hence the first two, because of their lower populations, permit easy perk farming, and this establishes the current nature of those arenas.

Would be a very easy fix.

- oldman
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Rob52240 on December 16, 2014, 10:33:37 AM

Midwar still has some good people and some good fights.  The basic problem is that perks earned in EW or MW are transferable to LW; hence the first two, because of their lower populations, permit easy perk farming, and this establishes the current nature of those arenas.

Would be a very easy fix.

- oldman

What I've observed goes on in midwar is pretty simple.  A small gang of 1-5 players rolling bases. 

When I attack them they flop fronts.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: xPoisonx on December 16, 2014, 10:43:15 AM
Have you ever flown in midwar before?

Those people are weird.

LOL yes I thought I was the only one who thought so. The lonelyness gets to them. One time this guy kept talking to himself for over an hour.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: fbEagle on December 16, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
LOL yes I thought I was the only one who thought so. The lonelyness gets to them. One time this guy kept talking to himself for over an hour.

I once saw a lone jug flying aimlessly around our field for hours, circle after circle. It was knida scary...  :uhoh  :cry
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Rob52240 on December 17, 2014, 01:52:39 AM
I once saw a lone jug flying aimlessly around our field for hours, circle after circle. It was knida scary...  :uhoh  :cry

Last time I logged into mid war, the mid war regulars were circling the airfield I started at in jeeps and halftracks.  Except the jeep in front had two paratroopers tied up like hood ornaments and the jeep's driver was wearing a hockey mask and rambling about how he was the humungus and I needed to surrender the base's fuel tanks in exchange for safe passage away from that airfield.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: hgtonyvi on December 21, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
If everyone who likes to fly 25 Eny planes and above should go to MW or EW. That way the arena gets more populated and thos 5 ENY planes like spit16, la7, p51 and much more LW plane can enjoy their LW advantages lol. :aok
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Latrobe on December 21, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
If everyone who likes to fly 25 Eny planes and above should go to MW or EW. That way the arena gets more populated and thos 5 ENY planes like spit16, la7, p51 and much more LW plane can enjoy their LW advantages lol. :aok

But if I go to the MW arena then I can't kill P51D, Spit 16, or La7 with an i-16  :(


 :devil
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: bustr on December 21, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
If everyone who likes to fly 25 Eny planes and above should go to MW or EW. That way the arena gets more populated and thos 5 ENY planes like spit16, la7, p51 and much more LW plane can enjoy their LW advantages lol. :aok

I always wondered why everyone in LW who didn't like to fight, have not migrated to MW where no one wants them to fight. But, LW would be kind of sparse and the MW regulars would be in here whining.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on December 21, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
The best kept secret of AH2 is that the best planes are 30+ eny, not 5  :t
False! The best secrets are hidden within the WW1 Crazy turney birds!
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: glzsqd on December 22, 2014, 12:34:04 AM
False! The best secrets are hidden within the WW1 Crazy turney birds!

*Menaces Whiskey with Blunt object* GET OF THOSE ANCKLES!
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: HawkerMKII on January 12, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
What is keeping EW and the MW (especially the MW arena) isn't the plane set but rather the game play by those regularly flying in both arenas.

ack-ack

Perk farming only thing they do there.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Coalcat1 on January 12, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Perk farming only thing they do there.
And achievement farming....
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: RotBaron on January 12, 2015, 03:06:19 PM
Last time I logged into mid war, the mid war regulars were circling the airfield I started at in jeeps and halftracks.  Except the jeep in front had two paratroopers tied up like hood ornaments and the jeep's driver was wearing a hockey mask and rambling about how he was the humungus and I needed to surrender the base's fuel tanks in exchange for safe passage away from that airfield.

Was Rob "Shade"?
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: BuckShot on January 13, 2015, 12:03:01 PM
Perk farming only thing they do there.

Maybe early war, but you're wrong about mid war; perk farmers are the minority. I split my time between mid and late. I earn more perks in late.

Lots of fun but small 3 on 3 battles in mW. I wouldn't spend time in there otherwise.

Great fights against Black70 and Shuffler.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Oldman731 on January 13, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
Great fights against Black70 and Shuffler.


Always true.

- oldman
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: HawkerMKII on January 13, 2015, 12:19:35 PM
Maybe early war, but you're wrong about mid war; perk farmers are the minority. I split my time between mid and late. I earn more perks in late.

Lots of fun but small 3 on 3 battles in mW. I wouldn't spend time in there otherwise.

Great fights against Black70 and Shuffler.

only a hand full of one side(nits) in there rolling bases, same as perk farming.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Zoney on January 13, 2015, 12:34:08 PM
only a hand full of one side(nits) in there rolling bases, same as perk farming.

Sheesh.  Does not bode well for the side switch time reduction requests when and arena with a 1 hour rule can't or won' balance itself.

That's really a shame, Midwar is where we should all probably be flying to practice for the current scenario
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: BuckShot on January 13, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
only a hand full of one side(nits) in there rolling bases, same as perk farming.

No, it's really not. Bailing bombers and guys in cahoots killing each other is perk farming. It goes on, but we kill them and they go to early war.
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: Zoney on January 13, 2015, 01:24:35 PM
No, it's really not. Bailing bombers and guys in cahoots killing each other is perk farming. It goes on, but we kill them and they go to early war.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you guys are all on one side rolling bases and no one switches sides to fight, then when one poor soul comes in to appose you , you take great pleasure in ganging up on him until he leaves?  More than anything else what is the point in flying around without opposition and rolling bases?  I must be missing something here.  Is this something your "squad" does for practice, and if so, exactly what are you practicing for?  Late night MA where you can roll the bases with no opposition there too?
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: BuckShot on January 13, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
You're wrong and you're missing something, but you have your own version of what's correct and I mine, so I'm not correcting you (nice oxymoronic sentence huh?).

I don't really have a squad, just fly with the same guys. We're not practicing for anything, we don't have to practice fun, it just happens.

If you read my previous post, I said I have fun with 3 on 3 fights, nowhere did I say I enjoy rolling fields. There's less pilots, therefore less picking in there, so dogfights play out well. That's all there is to it.

~S~ Buck

Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: mbailey on January 14, 2015, 05:55:05 AM
Not sure how many of you gents were there, but about a month ago on a weekend morning LW arena was fragged and everyone was in MW......best fights in a long time  :aok

I say we wish for new awkward shoes for Skuzzy, that way he trips on the LW server cord more often  :D
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 15, 2015, 11:29:25 PM
Spent  a lot of time starting out in MW, great bunch of people for the most part.  Learned a lot, and as Buckshot said, Black70 and Shuffler were in the mix. AKAK spent time in there as well, used to drive me nuts with his "P-38" killing me every time we met.  :D
 We did on occasion have players from LW come in for perk farming, and rarely someone coming in with their "shade" account and padding their scores. They had a couple of bad eggs in MW last year, made me move to LW, got real tired of all the drama. Sill I love flying there with my buds Woody002, Striker1, Tonyjoey, Clean, Specter, and Norseman.

So if you don't like MW, Fine stay out, but don't mess with it. Its great just the way it is. :rock
Title: Re: Destroy the Late War!
Post by: SilverZ06 on January 18, 2015, 09:47:37 AM
The best kept secret of AH2 is that the best planes are 30+ eny, not 5  :t

True story! P38G FTW!