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Title: we want the A BOMB
Post by: mikev on December 18, 2014, 02:08:01 AM
seems only right that we have the bomb for late war.make it worth 2000 perkies and only a b29 can carry it.give it the power to destroy everything in a 5 k radius. :O
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: palef on December 18, 2014, 02:11:00 AM
Those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Chalenge on December 18, 2014, 02:57:27 AM
I vote "no," thus breaking the unanimous claim you have on the title of this thread.

And it doesn't "seem only right" to me.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: SysError on December 18, 2014, 03:50:24 AM
I think that there should be a Bomb in the game, but I think that only the Bish should have it.    :old:   After all we are the only ones who believe in peace and motherhood.    :x

Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
It would be cool but I vote no.

That thing is gonna be overused, badly.

And imagine the lag and game crashes from the explosion. :O
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Volron on December 18, 2014, 05:54:48 AM
"We" do?  Hmm...  *checks*  I am going to have to say no, "we" don't.  I want the H6K, Do-17 and the TBD. :aok  Oh, and the TB-3 as well. :D
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: branch37 on December 18, 2014, 06:46:34 AM
Quote from: Volron on December 18, 2014, 05:54:48 AM
"We" do?  Hmm...  *checks*  I am going to have to say no, "we" don't.  I want the H6K, Do-17 and the TBD. :aok  Oh, and the TB-3 as well. :D

And the F6F-3
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: aztec on December 18, 2014, 08:09:35 AM
-1
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: xPoisonx on December 18, 2014, 08:16:00 AM
Would be awesome but you gotta remember some people probably have 50,000+ bomber perks after 14 years of playing.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: lyric1 on December 18, 2014, 08:42:49 AM
I would say no. :aok
However if it was going to be done I would do it like this.
Number 1 ranked bomber in late war from previous month gets a 1 time shot with a single B-29 & the only target it will work at is HQ of enemy country's.
Plus when that B-29 is upped a special type of alert warns it is in the air.
If said B-29 hits target that country wins the war.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: waystin2 on December 18, 2014, 09:02:19 AM
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Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Skyyr on December 18, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
+100
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
I like what lyric said, 'cept the rank thingy.


We should regroup the Strats if for some weird reason we'd get this.

Then have someone bomb the strat complex. Instantly wiping out most of the factories.

Watch complaints and flame threads spring up on the boards. :ahand
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Wiley on December 18, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
I can't remember the exact wording, but I believe HTC once said something to the effect of, "We'll never say absolutely not to any feature request, except the A bomb."

Any way you limited it, it would be a stupid addition.

Wiley.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
 :)
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Aspen on December 18, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
So, as wished for, -1.  Too many folks with the perks to up over and over with the big one.

But, it would be interesting and something fresh.  I would want it added in a way that promotes combat and action.  Climbing to 30K, hanging out and waiting to see if that dar bar is a single 29 with the bomb is fine but the ratio of loitering time vs fighting time isn't my favorite.

It would need to come with some mechanism that encourages a fight.  Basically, it needs to have the opposite effect of what the real ones had.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Zoney on December 18, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Sure, give them the A-Bomb with these conditions.

3000 perks

Arena announcement on takeoff, example: "Snailman has lifted of from base 34 with an A-bomb in a B29".

No formations

Flashing dot dar everywhere he goes that friendly and enemies can roll their mouse over to Identify him.

500 perks if you shoot him down.


                 or


Just "no".
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Lusche on December 18, 2014, 12:35:20 PM
Quote from: Zoney on December 18, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Arena announcement on takeoff, example: "Snailman has lifted of from base 34 with an A-bomb in a B29".


 :uhoh
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Rino on December 18, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
    Does a 5K circle of destruction sound a little large to anyone else for a 20K atomic weapon?
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Rino on December 18, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
   Does a 5K circle of destruction sound a little large to anyone else for a 20K atomic weapon?

Sounds about right.

Too much to have available in-game though.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Lusche on December 18, 2014, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: Rino on December 18, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
    Does a 5K circle of destruction sound a little large to anyone else for a 20K atomic weapon?

Quote from: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
Sounds about right.


You can try it here: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: Lusche on December 18, 2014, 12:42:23 PM

You can try it here: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Nice. :)
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: mikev on December 18, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: lyric1 on December 18, 2014, 08:42:49 AM
I would say no. :aok
However if it was going to be done I would do it like this.
Number 1 ranked bomber in late war from previous month gets a 1 time shot with a single B-29 & the only target it will work at is HQ of enemy country's.
Plus when that B-29 is upped a special type of alert warns it is in the air.
If said B-29 hits target that country wins the war.

i came up with this mostly as a joke ,due to some of the frustrations we have when we are outnumbered and most of our bases belong to the other side. i think lyric1 has a good idea here . when i think of this warning and the mass of escort fighters and a minimum of 30,000 feet drop hitting a HQ with a single b29 in what would be a desperate measure for sure considering every side would throw every resource to stop it .... what a furball  this would make . just a thought ? but as this is just a WISH LIST  lets not get carried away.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Zoney on December 18, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
Quote from: Lusche on December 18, 2014, 12:35:20 PM

 :uhoh

Hehehehehe..........this message might be Immediately followed by "Zoney at 38K 7 sectors away has turned his TA152 to intercept"


                                                       :devil
         
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Coalcat1 on December 18, 2014, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Lusche on December 18, 2014, 12:42:23 PM

You can try it here: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
Lol try the Tsar Bomba dropped on Central Park... :bolt:
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: MrKrabs on December 18, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
You all realize I would be the first one to suicide bomb myself in the middle of the biggest furball I could find and kill myself and everyone else with me while cackling profusely as I see the rage on 200
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Coalcat1 on December 18, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: MrKrabs on December 18, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
You all realize I would be the first one to suicide bomb myself in the middle of the biggest furball I could find and kill myself and everyone else with me while cackling profusely as I see the rage on 200
Yes crabby, we know...
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Someguy63 on December 18, 2014, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: Coalcat1 on December 18, 2014, 02:30:10 PM
Lol try the Tsar Bomba dropped on Central Park... :bolt:

I did a number of locations.

Just the blast radius itself looks disgusting.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: darkzking on December 19, 2014, 03:10:59 AM
dropped the tsar bomb on Denver and i watched all of Main Colorado get destroyed  :devil i mean  :uhoh  :cry
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Drano on December 19, 2014, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: MrKrabs on December 18, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
You all realize I would be the first one to suicide bomb myself in the middle of the biggest furball I could find and kill myself and everyone else with me while cackling profusely as I see the rage on 200

That's beautiful. I'd want it just to see this happen! :rofl
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Chalenge on December 19, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
With a mere perk cost of 2000 I can promise no one will ever see the "A bomb" except me. I will have the "A bomb" every month and no one else will ever rise to being #1 in bombers.

Better hope it never happens!  :devil
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Rich46yo on December 19, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
I'd rather see a heavily perked B29 with an A-bomb needed to take out an HQ then 3 free Lanc's easily bailed from after doing the same.

Anyone who'd do that should have to sport a red scarlet "D" on any airplane they ever up and guess what the "D" stands for?
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 19, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
"The Bomb" doesnt even meet the requirements for game use as it was only used twice during the war and that was to end the war.

Therefore would only be one proper use for "The Bomb" in game IMO

And that would be to mark the end of this game
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: guncrasher on December 19, 2014, 05:29:18 PM
Quote from: DREDIOCK on December 19, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
"The Bomb" doesnt even meet the requirements for game use as it was only used twice during the war and that was to end the war.

Therefore would only be one proper use for "The Bomb" in game IMO

And that would be to mark the end of this game

true the bomb never flew in squadron strength.


semp
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Chalenge on December 19, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
The "squadron strength" test doesn't factor into consideration, I don't believe.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Coalcat1 on December 19, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: Chalenge on December 19, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
The "squadron strength" test doesn't factor into consideration, I don't believe.
It was in BG strength ready to be used...
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: xPoisonx on December 20, 2014, 01:12:10 AM
When you win the war for the next 5 min all b29 in the air should be given a nuke  :O
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: pipz on December 20, 2014, 07:34:17 AM
Quote from: palef on December 18, 2014, 02:11:00 AM
Those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it.

Does that mean we get it or no?  :headscratch:  :D
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: pipz on December 20, 2014, 07:38:03 AM
Quote from: Zoney on December 18, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
Hehehehehe..........this message might be Immediately followed by "Zoney at 38K 7 sectors away has turned his TA152 to intercept

Zoney you must have brought your minimum altitude limit down. Congrats! Live bold I say!  :neener:
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Rich46yo on December 20, 2014, 02:37:15 PM
I never knew "bombs" had to be in squadron strength. :huh
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Nathan60 on December 20, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: mikev on December 18, 2014, 02:08:01 AM
seems only right that we have the bomb for late war.make it worth 2000 perkies and only a b29 can carry it.give it the power to destroy everything in a 5 k radius. :O
Tanktown and 185 would be a radioactive ghost town.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: shake307 on January 02, 2015, 07:41:27 PM
Make it cost 1 million perk points, 5 people need to spend the perks, and 2 of those people need to be from an opposing country (make it kinda like the Manhatten project).  Also, a target must be picked before mission and the bomb will only detonate on that target.  Make only 2 available in each tour and only make them available to a country that already has control over a set majority of the bases (can't think of a number atm).  Also, said country needs to have 100% strat and hq health.  I think all this would make it at least somewhat historical.  But I do vote a -1 on this one.  The bomb wasn't the end all of WW2.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 02, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: Rich46yo on December 20, 2014, 02:37:15 PM
I never knew "bombs" had to be in squadron strength. :huh

I could be wrong but it is my understanding that typically for a weapon system to be implemented in AH. Had to be used in some numbers.
The A bomb was only used twice. And that was to end the war.

Therefore, I maintain that the only proper and fitting use for atomic bombs in AH would be to mark the end of the game itself.

Besides. I seem to remember HT saying we aint getting A Bombs
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: save on January 03, 2015, 04:50:29 AM
the A-bomb should be used as a switch-map winner.

If you are tired of the map, you can win the war and you chose next map, cost : -3000 perks.

Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
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LtngRydr
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Meatwad on January 04, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Looks like a tree from an ascii DOS game  :D
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: mthrockmor on January 04, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
Only if we get 40k air starts to defend strats.

Boo
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Bino on January 04, 2015, 11:17:52 AM
No.

Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: -ammo- on January 04, 2015, 01:16:40 PM
Yea sure, give us a 1 kiloton atomic weapon.  Everyone will injoy taking out the strats without any effort whatsoever
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: EDO43 on January 10, 2015, 12:42:53 PM
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LtngRydr

ROTFLMAO!!!  That is priceless! 

Now how about a 25000 lb grand slam instead?  They were used in larger numbers toward the end of the war.  That would do some damage with a blast radius of "x" K.  Granted it would have to be limited to the lancaster and only in singles (no formations of  three grand slams).  1 lanc with a grand slam could white flag a town if dropped properly (center of town) and would cost the player 5000 perks to use.  Not nearly as powerful as an atomic blast but if you're within the blast radius then you might be screwed, especially if you're in a GV.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Coalcat1 on January 10, 2015, 05:04:54 PM
Quote from: EDO43 on January 10, 2015, 12:42:53 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!  That is priceless! 

Now how about a 25000 lb grand slam instead?  They were used in larger numbers toward the end of the war.  That would do some damage with a blast radius of "x" K.  Granted it would have to be limited to the lancaster and only in singles (no formations of  three grand slams).  1 lanc with a grand slam could white flag a town if dropped properly (center of town) and would cost the player 5000 perks to use.  Not nearly as powerful as an atomic blast but if you're within the blast radius then you might be screwed, especially if you're in a GV.
No need to perk the grandslam, just strip the lanc of all guns, and add the extra weight to it :)
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: lyric1 on January 10, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: EDO43 on January 10, 2015, 12:42:53 PM


Now how about a 25000 lb grand slam instead?  They were used in larger numbers toward the end of the war.  That would do some damage with a blast radius of "x" K.  Granted it would have to be limited to the lancaster and only in singles (no formations of  three grand slams).  1 lanc with a grand slam could white flag a town if dropped properly (center of town) and would cost the player 5000 perks to use.  Not nearly as powerful as an atomic blast but if you're within the blast radius then you might be screwed, especially if you're in a GV.

Grand slam & tallboys would not work in AHII right they all burrowed into the ground causing essentially an earthquake.
AHII terrains everything blows up on the surface.

 
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: xPoisonx on January 10, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: lyric1 on January 10, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
Grand slam & tallboys would not work in AHII right they all burrowed into the ground causing essentially an earthquake.
AHII terrains everything blows up on the surface.

 

They could be set with a certain amount of damage according to their historical effectiveness.  :old:
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Zerstorer on January 10, 2015, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: SysError on December 18, 2014, 03:50:24 AM
 After all we are the only ones who believe in peace and motherhood.    :x



(http://catchquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/102-Animal-House-quotes.gif)

"Motherhood?"

"Forget it...he'said rollin'."

 :D
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: 49MERLIN on January 12, 2015, 01:28:16 AM
I understand the arguments for & against; the idea about your side wins the war is great.  I don't think we'll ever get one, but I would like to see one go off in the main arena!  I therefore suggest that instead of adding an A-bomb, add an enormous A-bomb like mushroom cloud explosion to the destruction of the HQ!!!!!  It would be great and could be seen for miles!  It would also be a good thing to have an all country map-wide FLASH illuminate the arena indicating to everyone that they should see who's HQ is an ash pit.  It would be worth it if just for the screen shot.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: 49MERLIN on January 12, 2015, 02:00:32 AM
As far as the Tallboy goes... It should be added to a single unarmed Lancaster in a different slot to designate the A/Cs modification.  It should not be perked.  It should have the ability to instantly drop all town buildings in a single blow due to the foundational instability of 19th century brick & mortar construction.  It should have a 1/4 mile blast radius with an 8 thousand foot bomb arming distance,(to allow for burrowing velocity to be achieved & reduce effective bomb****ing).  Most importantly it should have the ability; not to kill a tank, but to flip any tank within its blast radius.  It could also have the ability to destroy quake sensitive base structures like ammo bunkers, radars, and fuel tanks.
Title: Re: we want the A BOMB
Post by: Greebo on January 12, 2015, 05:54:07 AM
The Grand Slam required a specially modified Lancaster to haul it. They took off the bomb bay doors and added some fairings, fitted souped-up Merlins and removed the front and upper turrets to save weight. The A bomb carrying B-29s also lacked turrets.

IIRC HTC have said in the past there is not likely to be any bomb bigger than what we already have added to the game.

Kind of surprised Furball's "Why we need Nookie" cartoon hasn't appeared in this thread yet.......