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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Slade on January 02, 2015, 08:49:49 AM
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Hey all,
In a scenario where you have cons below you, co-alt and above you, which plane(s) do you feel handle surviving\thriving in this environment the best and why?
Of course it is the pilot that should have ample SA but the context of this thread is the PLANE.
Some thoughts I had for this scenario are:
- Visibility is useful. You cant counter what you cant see!
- You cant waste E! If you get slow your dead meat!
What are your thoughts on what plane(s) handle this scenario the best?
Thanks,
Slade :salute
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Spits and Zekes? To everything turn,turn,turn.
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Hmmm. Seems to me you need all round performance or to be very good in a turny bird. Yak-3, La-7, Ki-84, Spitfire Mk VIII, Spitfire Mk XVI, Bf109F-4, Bf109G-2. The Spits are kinda marginal due to their fragility and the Yak-3 and Bf109s are marginal due to light firepower. I think the planes on top really make it rough for E builders that aren't that maneuverable such as the Bf109K-4 and Spitfire Mk XIV. Speed birds like the P-51D, Typhoon, Fw190D-9, P-47M and Tempest could likely dive out and run, but that is conceding control of the airspace to the enemy, better than being shot down but not winning for sure. A great turny bird pilot might be able to do it in the A6M3, A6M5, FM2, N1K2-J or Hurricane Mk IIc.
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Ki-84, to take it uphill the whole time
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B5N,no other fighter can roll from dead stop and climb through the entire mess killing everything in it path :ahand
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109k4, I can dive to get away and build energy faster than likely any of them can if I need to.
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It depends entirely on how much room you have below you.
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It depends entirely on how much room you have below you.
How would you answer if you were say 8k in this scenario?
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Ki61 ... I may not win...but it'll a good time till I die...or win....who knows....I may just pull off some goods shots
basics though...a spit V up or Ki84 are able to adapt to all types of fight in reasonably quick time (my opinion)
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Mosquito.
Because if you die, try to do it in the coolest plane you can find.
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Me 163 or Me 262.
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Me 163 or Me 262.
Thanks. How about non-perk rides?
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Depends on what planes you're going up against and a bunch of other factors but my vote goes for the 109F. It can just simply out fight everything in the skies when used right :)
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Depends on what planes you're going up against and a bunch of other factors but my vote goes for the 109F. It can just simply out fight everything in the skies when used right :)
Your answer to everything is the 109F.
MK84: "hey latrobe, what is the best coffee maker"?
Latrobe: "The 109F"
See :rolleyes:
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Well... I'd want a tri-plane of course.
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Your answer to everything is the 109F.
MK84: "hey latrobe, what is the best coffee maker"?
Latrobe: "The 109F"
See :rolleyes:
Well it is! have you ever seen a 109F make coffee before!? best coffee ever! :neener:
(seriously, fly the 109F and you'll know why it's the best :P )
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(seriously, fly the 109F and you'll know why it's the best :P )
I flew the 109F in the last Malta scenario and it left no doubt in my mind about why the Spit V is the best.
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sorry Latrobe but p39 is a far superior aircraft :devil
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sorry Latrobe but p39 is a far superior aircraft :devil
having a bigger gun doesn't make you better! :P
We should do some P39 fighter sweeps though.
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Latrobe next time were both on p39 fighter sweeps :devil
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109F
Love that plane. I do get plenty of firing solutions with it. Not as many kills proportional to most other birds. Weird.
I mean I see plenty of hit sprites. Just not so many leading to kills as other planes.
Does anyone else have that issue with the 109f?
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KI84, mainly because its the plane I know the best. Its top speed and dive won't outrun many late war planes, but it's climb, acceleration, durability and turning ability make it a good furball survivor.
Its a good vert fighter, but plenty of planes out climb it - Spit 8, 14, 16, LA7, 109G2, G6, G14, K4, etc. It's a great plane if you want to wade into trouble and stay engaged until you or the other guys are dead. If you want to survive by being able to separate and reset, a faster plane would be a better choice.
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In a scenario where you have cons below you, co-alt and above you, ...
I rarely see bandits above me, as I habitually fly in what we of JG11 call the Zoneysphere. ;)
Variants of the FW-190 tend to do fairly well up there.
YMMV
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I rarely see bandits above me, as I habitually fly in what we of JG11 call the Zoneysphere. ;)
Variants of the FW-190 tend to do fairly well up there.
YMMV
:O
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KI84, mainly because its the plane I know the best. Its top speed and dive won't outrun many late war planes, but it's climb, acceleration, durability and turning ability make it a good furball survivor.
Its a good vert fighter, but plenty of planes out climb it - Spit 8, 14, 16, LA7, 109G2, G6, G14, K4, etc. It's a great plane if you want to wade into trouble and stay engaged until you or the other guys are dead. If you want to survive by being able to separate and reset, a faster plane would be a better choice.
:aok
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My vote go to the Yak-3 due to its super-climb angle, manoeuvrability, and its one of the hardest fighter to down in game, its only drawback is its twin cannon (corrected in the Yak3p model, also with a better engine).
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p39, p40, hurricane mk1, ki43 all of these way better choices
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p39, p40, hurricane mk1, ki43 all of these way better choices
Why?
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because raynos is weird ;)
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The Me-410 is the obvious answer.
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I am finding the Yak-9u a great fighter for this type scenario. GREAT viz. Climbs and maneuvers good. You do have to really conserve ammo but when that thing hits (at 300 or less) IT HITS. They go down folks.
Great other points here all. Yak-3, Turny birds etc. So easy to make a case when you understand a plane well.
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