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Title: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 14, 2015, 02:43:18 PM
IS KING OF ACES HIGH skies it is the most fearsome fighter out there requiring hordes to fight it that is all :devil.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 02:48:34 PM
262 and K4 better
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 14, 2015, 02:56:06 PM
262 and K4 are noobish and for the weak
FIXED :aok
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
P39's are for puny men that believe they are tough. :old:
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: glzsqd on February 14, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
hehehe, I'd like to see the look on your face when you see the Kill Ratio the p39 has over the 109s :P
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 04:52:05 PM
hehehe, I'd like to see the look on your face when you see the Kill Ratio the p39 has over the 109s :P

It wouldn't change because I still know the 109 is better. :banana:
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Copprhed on February 14, 2015, 05:32:23 PM
Raynos, in his infinite wisdom, showed me the awesomenessness of the P-39.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: glzsqd on February 14, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
Better at getting 37mms lobbed into their canopy.     : ;)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Naughty on February 14, 2015, 05:56:49 PM


     There is only 1 P39 that ever survived my Spit8 once I spotted it, and I believe it was only BAIT for the 2 K4's that came in out of the sun when I dove in on it. P39's are only good for.. well.. I guess they taxi alright with that tricycle gear.  Pilots called them flying coffins for a reason !
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
Better at getting 37mms lobbed into their canopy.     : ;)

No no P39's were only made for making the planes they're flying near look better.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: glzsqd on February 14, 2015, 05:59:33 PM
If I had a dollar for every plane that was called "the flying coffin" I could personally crash all of them and then pay to be reconstructed into a cyborg.

P39 did more to end the war than any Spitfire. The Ruskies used that thing to great effect.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: glzsqd on February 14, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
No no P39's were only made for making the planes they're flying near look better.

I bet you think Muffin tops and Uno-brows are sexy aswell.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 06:02:27 PM
I bet you think Muffin tops and Uno-brows are sexy aswell.

No no I know the difference between an ugly plane and a real beauty.

The P39 looks like its designer had a stroke while drawing a sketch.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Naughty on February 14, 2015, 11:13:01 PM


           I disagree there, I like the look of the P-39. and Love the gear. Just wish it's performance was little bit better then a brick.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 14, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
No no I know the difference between an ugly plane and a real beauty.
No you don't.

(http://www.air-and-space.com/20120503%20Goldwater/20120503%20BMGR_0140%20A-10C%2078-0671%20357FS%20left%20front%20in%20flight%20l.jpg)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 14, 2015, 11:57:50 PM
No you don't.

(http://www.air-and-space.com/20120503%20Goldwater/20120503%20BMGR_0140%20A-10C%2078-0671%20357FS%20left%20front%20in%20flight%20l.jpg)

Get that trash outta here!
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 14, 2015, 11:59:00 PM

     There is only 1 P39 that ever survived my Spit8 once I spotted it, and I believe it was only BAIT for the 2 K4's that came in out of the sun when I dove in on it. P39's are only good for.. well.. I guess they taxi alright with that tricycle gear.  Pilots called them flying coffins for a reason !

I've killed a great many spitfires probably makes half my p39 kills actually  :devil.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 15, 2015, 02:52:26 AM
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/zedocbarnaby/poorspit8_zpsc84198d2.png)

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/zedocbarnaby/poorspit82_zps22017794.png)

poor spitfire MK VIII :ahand
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Latrobe on February 15, 2015, 02:56:29 AM
Nice cheesy poof. They're nummy.  :) :joystick:
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 15, 2015, 02:57:47 AM
B17s aren't safe either :devil :devil(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/zedocbarnaby/b17sdemise_zpsea476d31.png)

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/zedocbarnaby/tumbledown_zpse500d295.png)

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh499/zedocbarnaby/p39vsb17_zpsc2bde05b.png)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: pipz on February 15, 2015, 07:04:18 AM

     There is only 1 P39 that ever survived my Spit8 once I spotted it, and I believe it was only BAIT for the 2 K4's that came in out of the sun when I dove in on it. P39's are only good for.. well.. I guess they taxi alright with that tricycle gear.  Pilots called them flying coffins for a reason !

No offence but yes the Spit 8 is a bit easier on the virtual tyro. Winning for the sake of winning with the absolute best aeroplane isn't always the point though. That being said maybe two tours ago I believe I managed something like a 4-1 KD in the 39Q. It cant be that bad. I don't recall the Russian pilots calling it a flyin coffin. They seemed to have had good regards for it. If you stack all the Russian 39 aces in with the Allied pilots a lot of them would be in the top 20!
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: pipz on February 15, 2015, 07:10:31 AM
Get that trash outta here!

Obviously there is no accounting for taste a wot! Rite then.....  :neener:  :D


Tootles!
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Randy1 on February 15, 2015, 07:18:18 AM
No no I know the difference between an ugly plane and a real beauty.

The P39 looks like its designer had a stroke while drawing a sketch.

Why wrong here.  The P-39 was an outside the envelope shot at making a low drag plane.  If we had the original concept drawing you would see what the designer was trying to do.  Much of the P-39s problem was trying to fix problems that may not have been foreseen or thought through in the concept.  

I would guess with the modern, strong, lighter  materials we have today, the P-39 might have been more successful.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 15, 2015, 09:54:26 AM
Get that trash outta here!
I already did!

(http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/gg/Photos/109crash.gif)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: pipz on February 15, 2015, 10:03:09 AM
I already did!

(http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/gg/Photos/109crash.gif)

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo!  :D
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 15, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
Major problem's with the p39 ,is lack of roll to the right under 94mph. Small fuel load and its power to weight ratio. And of course the super charger.

With all these faults i still love the plane, but it is no real wonder so many in real life hated its guts.



I would LOVE to have the 39D-2 would get more horse power for the same D model load out. "altho im not sure if engine weighed more so it might negate the added 200H.P."

:edit: i guess im  wrong, like most aces high planes,our 39-D is a mutt. A mix of the d-1 & d-2. :|
 how sad.

For what its worth.  :salute
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Randy1 on February 15, 2015, 11:08:40 AM
It was a mail carrier in the late war on the US side simply because there were better fighters available.  The Russkies used them because they were readily available.

I still say the P-39 was the chevy corvair of ww2 war planes. A good idea that just never got all the bugs worked out.

Still a neat plane and super fun plane in a base defense.  If they shot you down they don't get crap for it but if you shot them down you load up on perks.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Devil 505 on February 15, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
It was a mail carrier in the late war on the US side simply because there were better fighters available.  The Russkies used them because they were readily available.

I still say the P-39 was the chevy corvair of ww2 war planes. A good idea that just never got all the bugs worked out.

Still a neat plane and super fun plane in a base defense.  If they shot you down they don't get crap for it but if you shot them down you load up on perks.

I thought it was used as a mail carrier because it was easy to roll down the windows to put the letters into mailboxes.  :devil
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 15, 2015, 11:48:32 AM
I already did!

(http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/gg/Photos/109crash.gif)

A formation of A10's flew by my house today. Here's a pic I snapped during the flight.

(http://www.thepigsite.com/publications/contents/59_pic4.3.7a.jpg)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: pipz on February 15, 2015, 02:37:52 PM
 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

Its a outrage!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: SysError on February 15, 2015, 08:36:12 PM
Been stated before:


Don't give me a P-39.
The engine is mounted behind.
 They'll tumble and spin and auger you in,
Don't give me a P-39.


http://www.fighterpilotuniversity.com/music-and-theater/songs/assignment-night-1941/

 :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:

Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 16, 2015, 01:34:59 AM
SysError is just mad he cant fly a p39  :lol
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: zack1234 on February 16, 2015, 02:01:35 AM
I cannot decide if the P39 is poo or very good :old:

Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Someguy63 on February 16, 2015, 02:10:36 AM
I cannot decide if the P39 is poo or very good :old:



It's poo
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 16, 2015, 02:38:10 AM
zack its better then your yak9t im willing To DA you to prove it as i did to Copprhed and his 110 :devil I SHALL SHOW THE WORLD TRUE P39! :airplane:
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: SysError on February 16, 2015, 06:12:49 AM
SysError is just mad he cant fly a p39  :lol

There are a LOT of planes I can not fly.

Some days I feel as if I am on as an act of charity - a target that no one can miss.  I mean how else are those guys going to land all those kills I ask myself. :lol :lol :lol



Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Randy1 on February 16, 2015, 06:26:06 AM
The tail of the P-39 gets shot off easier than any other plane I have spent time in the fighter mode.  Seems to be the weakness in a 39
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: mbailey on February 16, 2015, 06:31:19 AM
There are a LOT of planes I can not fly.

Some days I feel as if I am on as an act of charity




 :rofl :aok  Yep I have those days
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: darkzking on February 16, 2015, 09:32:39 AM
The tail of the P-39 gets shot off easier than any other plane I have spent time in the fighter mode.  Seems to be the weakness in a 39
i dont think i've ever had my tail shot off of unless by it was by a 30mm. I do get my vert stab shot off a lot but that happens to in every fighter i fly :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Devil 505 on February 16, 2015, 12:54:58 PM
The tail of the P-39 gets shot off easier than any other plane I have spent time in the fighter mode.  Seems to be the weakness in a 39
I killed a 39 in FSO with a Ki 43 for this exact reason. The vertical stab popped off with just a couple of hits.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 16, 2015, 02:41:40 PM
It's poo
So is the 109
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: zack1234 on February 16, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
zack its better then your yak9t im willing To DA you to prove it as i did to Copprhed and his 110 :devil I SHALL SHOW THE WORLD TRUE P39! :airplane:

I would own you and make you wear sandals :old:
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: pipz on February 16, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
I would own you and make you wear sandals :old:

He already does..................  :D
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Brooke on February 17, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
The Russkies used them because they were readily available.

3 of the top 5 (and 6 of the top 10) Soviet aces flew the P-39.  And that despite the Soviets having only 5000 P-39's, vs. 23,000 Yak-7/9/3's and 16,000 La-5/7's.
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Brooke on February 17, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
Anyone who thinks that the P-39 is ugly has no talent for aesthetics and should flee ashamedly from any discussions thereof.  ;)
Title: Re: The p39
Post by: Brooke on February 17, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
By the way, a good book on the P-39 is:

"Attack of the Airacobras: Soviet Aces, American P-39s, and the Air War Against Germany," by Loza and Gebhardt.