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Title: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Phoenix3107 on March 11, 2015, 03:04:14 PM
Wonder if maybe by the next release of AH, we might see some more tanks or armored vehicles from other countries like Britain, Italy, Japan, Spain, etc. that have participated in WW2, maybe even WW1 to be selected into the game. Any vehicles come to anyone's mind that they could convince the developers to insert to the game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_World_War_II
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: bustr on March 11, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
This is one place in the game Waffle has a lot of options.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: save on March 13, 2015, 08:50:49 PM
90% of these tanks from countries mentioned would be scenario-only  tanks. In MA they would  be useless against current set-up.
Not that I'm against scenario-only tanks but their usage would be very limited elsewhere.

Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: oldskool65 on March 13, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
I want a schwimmwagen (stamps feet)
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Karnak on March 14, 2015, 01:06:40 AM
90% of these tanks from countries mentioned would be scenario-only  tanks. In MA they would  be useless against current set-up.
Not that I'm against scenario-only tanks but their usage would be very limited elsewhere.
Yup.  Of that list I think only some British tanks would be MA usable for anybody not seeking an extreme challenge.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: SirNuke on March 14, 2015, 07:36:33 AM
or they could perk the crap out the current linup.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Karnak on March 14, 2015, 07:55:26 AM
or they could perk the crap out the current linup.
That would be very frustrating for new GVers.  A D3A can shoot down a stupid Me262 as its guns can punch little holes in it.  A Type 97 cannot destroy a Tiger II unless the Tiger II actually manages to roll over and present his belly armor to the Type 97.

The only recourse those without gobs of perk points would have is to go grab a Tu-2 or something and bomb the Tiger II out of existence.  That doesn't sound fun for the guys in the little tanks or the guy in the Tiger II.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Greebo on March 14, 2015, 08:40:54 AM
There are a few tanks that could be added that might see some use in the MA.

For Britain the Cromwell was roughly equivalent to the 75mm Sherman but was a fair bit faster.

The later Comet was better protected and had a similar gun to the Firefly, this would be the best of the British tanks.

The Churchill was well protected but had a similar gun to the 75mm Sherman and was too slow to see much use in the MA. However the special engineer AVRE versions might be useful if HTC introduced bunkers or obstacles like ditches to the game.

The Archer would make a good cheap tank destroyer as it had a 17 pdr gun. It was an odd design though with the gun mounted in the rear. The idea was it could set up an ambush, fire a few shots and then retreat quickly to a new position without having to turn round.

For the USA there is the Pershing heavy tank and the lightly armoured M36 tank destroyer, both armed with a 90mm gun.

For the Soviets the Su 100 tank destroyer would see a fair bit of use. HTC might even be able to add the Su-85 or Su-122 gun options onto the same shape like they did for the Panzer IV F1/F2.

Also there is the heavy tank chassis developments like the KV-1, KV-85 or IS-2.

Germany has a few competitive tank destroyers yet to be done, but they wouldn't really add anything to what is already in the game. The Italian and Japanese tanks would all be MA hangar queens.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: oldskool65 on March 14, 2015, 08:43:54 AM
How about a D.U.K.W  ?
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: lyric1 on March 14, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
Hungarian tank destroyers.  :aok Granted only useful in early war situations against other tanks. However as a AAA platform in late war. :banana:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361698.0.html

The Hungarian 40/43M Zrínyi II although not a true tank but an assault vehicle with a 105mm howitzer in it might still be useful & fun in AHIII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/43M_Zr%C3%ADnyi


Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Volron on March 14, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
I would love to see more SPAA and some SPG's; mostly SPG's. :)
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Meatwad on March 14, 2015, 06:56:08 PM
Tsar tank

 :D
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: mikev on March 14, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
be nice to have the M26 Pershing even though it came late
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Guppy35 on March 15, 2015, 12:48:51 AM
If it was up to me, and it's not, I'd suggest adding the tanks that fought in North Africa.  You'd get Matildas, Crusaders, Grants, and Stuarts to go against early Panzer IVs as well as the Panzer III.  Along with that add a desert arena where tanks would have to fight out in the open.  With the 75 mm gunned Sherman and the later Panzer IV there's a start already
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Volron on March 15, 2015, 01:28:40 AM
If it was up to me, and it's not, I'd suggest adding the tanks that fought in North Africa.  You'd get Matildas, Crusaders, Grants, and Stuarts to go against early Panzer IVs as well as the Panzer III.  Along with that add a desert arena where tanks would have to fight out in the open.  With the 75 mm gunned Sherman and the later Panzer IV there's a start already

Yes please. :D
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: EagleDNY on March 15, 2015, 04:13:16 PM
Put my vote in for one of the SdKfz 234 armored cars (thats the 8-wheeler).  They have 2 versions that mount a 75mm gun which would be quite popular in the main arena. 
One thing I think would be useful is some kind of a "command vehicle" - perhaps one of these with the 5cm gun and some heavy duty optics that would let you sit up on a hill someplace and look for enemy armor when no Storch is available. 
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: save on March 17, 2015, 11:31:37 AM
if we started with the most used tanks (and usable) still missing I would recommend the StugIII in its different reincarnations, and 50mm and 75mm
Sdkfz251's.
Pershing saw some action, ,and could be the ticket for western allied tank, IS2 is well armoured, but slow, and slow reloading, KV1 is worse than the T34/76 in almost all aspects, SU85/100 would be a real good contender though.

Personally I would like to see the Puma variants also.

Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: lerxst on March 17, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
can we get the neblewerfer??
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Dragon Tamer on March 17, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
I seriously doubt that we'll get any new vehicles or planes in the update since I remember someone at HTC saying (I think it might have been HiTech that said it) that it takes at least a year to add a new plane/GV to the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get another one or two updates before the release though.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Phoenix3107 on March 20, 2015, 07:50:47 PM
I seriously doubt that we'll get any new vehicles or planes in the update since I remember someone at HTC saying (I think it might have been HiTech that said it) that it takes at least a year to add a new plane/GV to the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get another one or two updates before the release though.

I don't see a reason why it should take that long to produce. I mean, unless it's a one-man job to implement these things, or it has to be put to a vote or some long pointless process, then I'm not buying it. Not. One. Bit. In my honest opinion of course.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Dragon Tamer on March 20, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
I don't see a reason why it should take that long to produce. I mean, unless it's a one-man job to implement these things, or it has to be put to a vote or some long pointless process, then I'm not buying it. Not. One. Bit. In my honest opinion of course.

Well first, the plane needs its 3D model. That in itself is an tedious task that would probably take around two or three months to do. Then you've got to get the textures done, this involves extensively researching the plane in question to find good examples that you can work off of. Remembering that it has to be historically accurate, you don't want to work off of a single photo of the planes tail. In addition to that you have to find a photos of the cock pit to work off of to crate the textures for. Remembering that those on the skinning team don't get paid for what they do, it's safe to assume that they have jobs (as well as lives) that they have to do in the mean time.

At the same time this is going on the flight model needs to be created for the plane. This can be done while the textures are being created (but after the 3D model is finished).
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: USRanger on March 20, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
The SDk does deserve more options since the M3 received them.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Zimme83 on March 20, 2015, 11:07:38 PM
StuG III should be in, one of the most important Gv:s of the war.
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: darkzking on March 21, 2015, 12:24:20 AM
Well first, the plane needs its 3D model. That in itself is an tedious task that would probably take around two or three months to do. Then you've got to get the textures done, this involves extensively researching the plane in question to find good examples that you can work off of. Remembering that it has to be historically accurate, you don't want to work off of a single photo of the planes tail. In addition to that you have to find a photos of the cock pit to work off of to crate the textures for. Remembering that those on the skinning team don't get paid for what they do, it's safe to assume that they have jobs (as well as lives) that they have to do in the mean time.

At the same time this is going on the flight model needs to be created for the plane. This can be done while the textures are being created (but after the 3D model is finished).
Hire more people ........ :uhoh
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Phoenix3107 on March 21, 2015, 12:46:19 AM
Hire more people ........ :uhoh

Problem solved. :D
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Alucard_II on March 31, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
Ive got to say, even though I would die within seconds, I'd love to roll out with an old WW1 german box tank  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: Volron on March 31, 2015, 05:03:40 PM
Ive got to say, even though I would die within seconds, I'd love to roll out with an old WW1 german box tank  :rolleyes:

I'll take a Chi-Ho and the Chi-Nu, as well as the Panzer II. :)
Title: Re: GV Expansion for AH3
Post by: hitech on April 01, 2015, 07:47:21 PM
I seriously doubt that we'll get any new vehicles or planes in the update since I remember someone at HTC saying (I think it might have been HiTech that said it) that it takes at least a year to add a new plane/GV to the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get another one or two updates before the release though.
It was not us who sad that