General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gman on March 20, 2015, 04:47:56 AM
Title: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Gman on March 20, 2015, 04:47:56 AM
Many shooters have been after Glock since the early 90s to build a single stack 9mm pocket/defense sized pistol. After the sales success of the .380 released about a year ago, they finally have created what everyone wanted.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: mbailey on March 20, 2015, 05:42:28 AM
Finally is right. The main reason I carry a P225/ 1911 is because of the single stack configuration. I don't have big hands, and some double stacks just don't fit and allow me to manipulate the gun comfortably doing quick mag exchanges. Should be intresting to get one of these in my paws. (Still won't ever take the place of my 225 :aok )
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: FX1 on March 20, 2015, 09:43:29 PM
I will be in the market for one. I dont carry bit it would be a nice pocket gun for hunting. The 380 just doesn't have the punch for finishing pigs in my experience. Also ammo cost is really attractive. Might be snappy in 9mm.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on March 20, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
Good luck finding one for awhiles. I have Pals still waiting for their 34's.
No question tho the 9mm is making a huge come back.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: FX1 on March 21, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
Just purchased my second stock class 34 a couple weeks ago. Didn't have any issues find a good deal. Glock has had a issue with their first runs especially the g41 so I might wait a year before I buy one. My 41 runs good and I have had no issues. Shot it quite often this hunting season and just finished up my first case of ammo last weekend. For a small gun its very accurate up to 25 yards. At 100 I have a hard time with the sights but I can hit the plate quite often.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: cobia38 on March 21, 2015, 01:18:33 PM
seriously though,why would you want a glock when kimber allready makes a great single stack 9 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on March 21, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
seriously though,why would you want a glock when kimber allready makes a great single stack 9 :headscratch:
I had a Kimber thing for awhiles but their prices are just outrageous. I know its a nice pistol but theres a lot of players in the 1911 market right now giving you better value. BTW I shot a Glock 34 the other day and for you 1911 Lovers, like me, :D your probably better off not even trying one. Seriously this thing is balanced and machined beautifully and I can get one super cheap if I order it. A few changes and your breaking a crisp 3 1/2 lb trigger, its so damn easy to take apart and clean, so accurate and cheap to shoot.
I never thought I'd consider competing with anything but a 1911 but now have to consider it.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Chalenge on March 22, 2015, 01:21:57 PM
The only reason I even carry a 9 is because you can get ammo for it easily. .40, and .45 are impossible to find, and if you have to actually use reloads on someone then it opens you to a whole new level of litigation.
But still, I'm using Wilson Combat mods on a service-type Beretta with 20+1 mags. You have trouble concealing full size, Gman?
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Flench on March 22, 2015, 01:48:06 PM
I well stick with my S&W 1911 9mm .
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on March 22, 2015, 04:22:41 PM
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40, and .45 are impossible to find, and if you have to actually use reloads on someone then it opens you to a whole new level of litigation.
A myth that lives on 'till this day.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Chalenge on March 22, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
Except that if you go out looking for it in my immediate area you will come back empty handed. So, not a myth.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on March 22, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
You are either right or wrong when it comes to criminal charges after a shoot. What kind of ammo you used has nothing to do with it.
In a civil case its all on the table but again the main thing is whether you had a reason to shoot or not. For me its different cause my legal bills wont be covered if I use anything but Dept. approved guns and ammo and have qualified with them. But even then the worse that could happen to me is i could get fired. It has no bearing in the criminal case.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Some life long scum bag try's to rob you and you ex him out and yeah, all of a sudden loving family members will pop up like pop corn to sue you. But criminally? As long as the investigation proves you were in reasonable fear of your life the make of the ammo you used doesnt matter one bit. Shoot him or hit him over the head with a shovel, you used deadly force because you were in fear of your life and thats the end of it.
Will there be repercussions? Yeah probably. But you wont go to the joint, hopefully.
I'd carry quality factory for other reasons then legality.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: CAP1 on March 22, 2015, 08:01:54 PM
dunno what model it was.....but i shot a guys 9mm glock at the range today. to be honest, i wasn't impressed. the trigger didn't feel that fantastic to me, i wasn't any more accurate than i am with my beretta or my 1911, and it didn't really even feel any better in my hand.
i'm sure there's a reason so many of you like em......but i think i'll stick to what i have.....unless i stumble across a stupidly good deal on one.......
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: saggs on March 22, 2015, 08:14:09 PM
I'm sure it'll sell like crazy... but I can't figure out why except "because GLOCK" :headscratch:
Seriously, if you wanted a single stack, striker fired, sub-compact 9mm. It's not like there has been a shortage of fine firearms to choose from in the past several years. M&P Shield, Springfield XDs, Walther PPS, Ruger LC9s and Kahr PM9 all come to mind off the top of my head, I'm sure there are others. Also if you open your mind to hammer-fired then there are many more options.
But even though they are very late to the party, I'm sure Glock will outsell all of them for no good reason except the blind unshakeable devotion Glock fans seem to have.
I guess I just don't "get it" when it comes to Glocks. Personally I feel there are so many other options out there with the same proven reliability, yet with much better ergonomics and triggers.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Chalenge on March 22, 2015, 08:48:05 PM
I had a Kimber thing for awhiles but their prices are just outrageous. I know its a nice pistol but theres a lot of players in the 1911 market right now giving you better value. BTW I shot a Glock 34 the other day and for you 1911 Lovers, like me, :D your probably better off not even trying one. Seriously this thing is balanced and machined beautifully and I can get one super cheap if I order it. A few changes and your breaking a crisp 3 1/2 lb trigger, its so damn easy to take apart and clean, so accurate and cheap to shoot.
I never thought I'd consider competing with anything but a 1911 but now have to consider it.
I was unfortunate enough to get a lemon from Kimber a few years back. Must have been about the time of their quality control issues which I've heard have been remedied. It was a rather large disappointment to say the least after drooling about one for years and then dropping that much money. The upside is I traded it in on a Wilson and really didn't take much of a beating.
And for you guys finding it impossible to find .40 and .45, try Walmart where I see it every time I go. Or just download the ammobot app to your phone.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: FX1 on March 23, 2015, 01:36:11 AM
LAX ammo is great. Quality reloads and fast shipping.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: mbailey on March 23, 2015, 05:33:22 AM
I dont "tell myself that" ; Ive been living it for over 30 years. Name one case where a person was convicted of murder due to the ammo they used.
That's not the point at all. The point is that whenever there is a shooting, and Trayvon Martin should have brought this to the forefront of your mind, the lawyers will attempt to charge with everything they can. In the case of reloading, which I have been doing for more than 40 years, they will certainly try "premeditated murder." Can they make it stick? Probably not, but the one time they do you will go from life in a dark hole to death row. If you want to take that chance, then go ahead. I certainly am not going to take the advice or opinion of someone on the Internet over something that could seriously impact my life.
I do not believe you have been doing this for 30 years, because this same debate has gone with concealed carry since the dawn of time.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on March 23, 2015, 02:04:08 PM
For the last time name one case where a person has been convicted of murder due to ammo used. In fact even name one time the charges were brought for the sole reason the defendant used reloaded ammo.
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The only reason I even carry a 9 is because you can get ammo for it easily. .40, and .45 are impossible to find, and if you have to actually use reloads on someone then it opens you to a whole new level of litigation.
These were your words. Not mine, yours! So exactly what "new level of litigation" does it open you up to?
And actually on the civilian side Ive been a Policeman for 32 years on two Dept.'s. Then I guess you could add 4 Military, so the actual number is 36.
Last time Im asking. Dance around the question again and then we can all assume you were talking out your arse and was not man enough to admit it. Lol if people knew how little the type of ammo used meant in a murder trial they'd probably laugh.
That's not the point at all. The point is that whenever there is a shooting, and Trayvon Martin should have brought this to the forefront of your mind, the lawyers will attempt to charge with everything they can. In the case of reloading, which I have been doing for more than 40 years, they will certainly try "premeditated murder." Can they make it stick? Probably not, but the one time they do you will go from life in a dark hole to death row. If you want to take that chance, then go ahead. I certainly am not going to take the advice or opinion of someone on the Internet over something that could seriously impact my life.
I do not believe you have been doing this for 30 years, because this same debate has gone with concealed carry since the dawn of time.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: CAP1 on March 23, 2015, 07:34:31 PM
I was unfortunate enough to get a lemon from Kimber a few years back. Must have been about the time of their quality control issues which I've heard have been remedied. It was a rather large disappointment to say the least after drooling about one for years and then dropping that much money. The upside is I traded it in on a Wilson and really didn't take much of a beating.
And for you guys finding it impossible to find .40 and .45, try Walmart where I see it every time I go. Or just download the ammobot app to your phone.
there's still shortages? one pd i do work for is saying that they're having a bit of a time getting .40, but really, it seems most everything is readily available now. at least around here.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Flench on March 24, 2015, 07:10:01 AM
there's still shortages? one pd i do work for is saying that they're having a bit of a time getting .40, but really, it seems most everything is readily available now. at least around here.
There is here in MS . No 22cal or anything . Maybe a few boxes of 410's last week when I was in Walmart and One box of 270 cal for 40 buck's . For 20 dollars worth of ammo . I'm not paying that .
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Gman on March 24, 2015, 01:24:15 PM
I too favor single stack 9mm 1911s. My favorite pistol out of the 50+ I've owned in the last 15 yeas is my Nighthawk 1911 in 9mm. I had a Para ord polymer frame 18 rnd 9mm 1911 as well. Something great about the 9mm round in that 1911 frame that I really like.
Still, a single action pistol isn't optimal for some folks due to legalities, regulations, and such, and a striker fired polymer single stack has been long awaited from Glock.
As others have said, the Sig225 and in my country (Canada), the Sig220 in 9mm with the standard side magazine release (many are the old heel release, blah), are two I'll never sell, and I have 3 Sig 220 9mm, as they are rare, and one is staying NIB. Single stack 9mm pistols are great IMO. The grip angle of the 220 9mm is far superior to the P226 IMO, it points far more like a 1911, and less like the loaf of bread with a broom handle shoved in it like the 226 does for me.
We won't get the Glock single stack 9 or the 380 here in Canada for a while, somebody needs to make an extended barrel for them to get around our dumb 106mm barrel laws first. I won't lose much sleep over that, but I'd still be interested to see them and see how they shoot.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 10, 2015, 12:33:07 AM
I'm waving the necromancer's staff on this thread because hickok45 recently tested the G43.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: Rich46yo on May 10, 2015, 05:59:05 PM
Ive been hearing bad things about the triggers on the new 43's.
Title: Re: Glock 9mm Single stack- finally
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 10, 2015, 11:09:14 PM
Just the link for those without flash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHdg4F15aQ