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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DmonSlyr on April 22, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=juwtnTB1RCU
Will get more info!
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Time to go! :bolt:
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Updated news of the eruption and more pictures!
Unbelievable
http://www.weather.com/news/news/chile-calbuco-volcano-eruption-evacuations-alerts
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Now THAT will cause climate change... :old:
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Which arch enemy has caused this :old:
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The nerve. The IPCC is going to be darn upset about this nonsense.
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Doesn't look like it has done much damage other then environment, thank god.
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What an apocalyptic lightning scene in this volcanic eruption ;
I seen good photos and videos like this ,3-4 years ago ,during the eruption in Iceland; they dont know sure whats causing this electric discharge : The Earth is like a juicy hot orange fruit ; There must be something watching and maintaining the balance in this 3-4 miles thick livable layer; molten lava under our feet , killer solar and cosmic radiations and particles above our heads; This doesn't make sense , I don't believe in chance.Somebody is out there watching us.
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I would say not necessarily. With the numbers of stars and planets in the universe the odds is pretty big that at least one of them would have an enviorment suitable for life.
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What an apocalyptic lightning scene in this volcanic eruption ;
I seen good photos and videos like this ,3-4 years ago ,during the eruption in Iceland; they dont know sure whats causing this electric discharge : The Earth is like a juicy hot orange fruit ; There must be something watching and maintaining the balance in this 3-4 miles thick livable layer; molten lava under our feet , killer solar and cosmic radiations and particles above our heads; This doesn't make sense , I don't believe in chance.Somebody is out there watching us.
Then you possibly do not know how evolution works. The planet has not been made for us to live on it. We evolved to live on it with as you say: "3-4 miles thick livable layer; molten lava under our feet , killer solar and cosmic radiations and particles above our heads". We are what we are because that is what it takes to live here.
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I would say not necessarily. With the numbers of stars and planets in the universe the odds is pretty big that at least one of them would have an enviorment suitable for life.
Someone once said there are an infinite number of planets out there, and only a finite number of those that are capable of supporting life. An infinite number divided by a finite one is effectively nothing so we as a people don't exist anyway and are likely just figments of our imaginations, so we should weather this just fine. :aok
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Someone once said there are an infinite number of planets out there, and only a finite number of those that are capable of supporting life. An infinite number divided by a finite one is effectively nothing so we as a people don't exist anyway and are likely just figments of our imaginations, so we should weather this just fine. :aok
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Well... Acording to some smart people we might just be holgrams so we might not even exist. We cannot be really sure about it.... :headscratch:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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The earth wasn't created for us. We were created by the environment. Its a very slim chance that a planet are suitable for life, and even less likely that life will occur. But in a universe with an almost infinite number of planets even a very unlikely event is likely.
But it's still a cool volcano.
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Everyone needs to remember that life doesn't mean civilization on another planet or the evolution of existence of another intelligent species. They can just be microorganisms...which, we have already found on Mars. Of course fossilized so they no longer exist as a living life form there. Or so we commonly think...
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Fermi's paradox illustrates both the futility of life and the absolute necessity that it exists. The universe is unimaginably huge. To think we are the only intelligent ones that exist is unabashedly arrogant. Earth does not exist for us any more than the entire universe exists for us. What arrogance and confidence does this mere queef on our own insignificant speck of dust warrant us? Whatever the age of the Earth is according to any of any side, be it 4000 or 4000000000, it doesn't change the fact that our universe is pants toe jam tingly huge(LOL, can't say what I wanted). Nobody can account or answer for that, I don't care how much faith or reason you have. It will be and has been countered. But, enough of my soap box and philosophy, that is a damn awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Wish I could have been there. :salute
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I have banded ironstone that is 4.3 billion years old. It is the size of a brick and weighs around 30 pounds. I also have a piece of "Kaladar Conglomerate" right by my porch steps that is only found in Ontario and Scotland.
"thousands of years" :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Monkeys!
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What an apocalyptic lightning scene in this volcanic eruption ;
I seen good photos and videos like this ,3-4 years ago ,during the eruption in Iceland; they dont know sure whats causing this electric discharge : The Earth is like a juicy hot orange fruit ; There must be something watching and maintaining the balance in this 3-4 miles thick livable layer; molten lava under our feet , killer solar and cosmic radiations and particles above our heads; This doesn't make sense , I don't believe in chance.Somebody is out there watching us.
hmmm :headscratch: Ice and water can form a static charge why cant rock ice and water form a charge. Ever read about lightning from forest fires or the thunderhead of a fire cloud dropping causing massive winds in all directions spreading fire more. :eek:
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Now THAT will cause climate change... :old:
Glad you brought that up. It will be interesting to see the effects on what this volcano will do to the climate. In my post recently during those conspiracy chemtrial threads, I explained that only valcanoes would be powerful enough to actually affect the atmospheric globe at a fast rate. Think about the tons and tons and tons of compounds this volcano shot into the sky. Think about the energy it took to make that happen. It is something no man could fathom to create at this time. Once we see the global effects of this volcano we will be able to tell if it actually effected the climate of the earth. It will be interesting to see if it even makes it to our part of the atmosphere in North America. Do you think it would heat the earth or cool the earth or not be big enough to effect it? Still that is a bazallion compounds, probably 10X more than all of the south american human compound creation combined yearly. Fascinating to say the least. This is why you simply cannot undermine the earth and mother nature.
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Glad you brought that up. It will be interesting to see the effects on what this volcano will do to the climate. In my post recently during those conspiracy chemtrial threads, I explained that only valcanoes would be powerful enough to actually affect the atmospheric globe at a fast rate. Think about the tons and tons and tons of compounds this volcano shot into the sky. Think about the energy it took to make that happen. It is something no man could fathom to create at this time. Once we see the global effects of this volcano we will be able to tell if it actually effected the climate of the earth. It will be interesting to see if it even makes it to our part of the atmosphere in North America. Do you think it would heat the earth or cool the earth or not be big enough to effect it? Still that is a bazallion compounds, probably 10X more than all of the south american human compound creation combined yearly. Fascinating to say the least. This is why you simply cannot undermine the earth and mother nature.
Might possibly just cause storms. No climate change as it can't cause temperature rise and doesn't block out enough of the sun to cool a lot of temperatures below average. It is quite interesting, however that is has power to do either, even in just that small region.
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Might possibly just cause storms. No climate change as it can't cause temperature rise and doesn't block out enough of the sun to cool a lot of temperatures below average. It is quite interesting, however that is has power to do either, even in just that small region.
If I remember rightly there was volcano responsible for the cold winter in the mid 1880's. Will have to look back..
What about St Helen's didn't that do something
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If I remember rightly there was volcano responsible for the cold winter in the mid 1880's. Will have to look back..
What about St Helen's didn't that do something
I think I've heard of a volcano changing winter temps sometime around that part of the century I'm not sure though. I used to read about volcanoes maybe last 8 years ago so I don't remember too much on actual events. As for Mount St Helens all I remember is it doing is making the mountainside look like Iwo Jima and leaving a crap load of ash all over the place. Not saying that's all it did of course..
Quite a vague memory of it lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
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Glad you brought that up. It will be interesting to see the effects on what this volcano will do to the climate. In my post recently during those conspiracy chemtrial threads, I explained that only valcanoes would be powerful enough to actually affect the atmospheric globe at a fast rate. Think about the tons and tons and tons of compounds this volcano shot into the sky. Think about the energy it took to make that happen. It is something no man could fathom to create at this time. Once we see the global effects of this volcano we will be able to tell if it actually effected the climate of the earth. It will be interesting to see if it even makes it to our part of the atmosphere in North America. Do you think it would heat the earth or cool the earth or not be big enough to effect it? Still that is a bazallion compounds, probably 10X more than all of the south american human compound creation combined yearly. Fascinating to say the least. This is why you simply cannot undermine the earth and mother nature.
I was skirting the edge of the rules in a facetious manner, but being truthful at the same time. I agree with you BTW.
I do not believe in man-made global warming - I think it is one of the most perpetuated lies of the past 50 years. However, a volcano, or any God-made event such as that volcano erupting, can very well influence climate change.
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I was skirting the edge of the rules in a facetious manner, but being truthful at the same time. I agree with you BTW.
I do not believe in man-made global warming - I think it is one of the most perpetuated lies of the past 50 years. However, a volcano, or any God-made event such as that volcano erupting, can very well influence climate change.
Why? Since we've already proved that global temperatures have increased over the past 50 years, which is also coincidentally the same time man had a massive population increase, with use of more man-made materials, vehicles, and then factories that omit greenhouse gases and still the change in temperature still isn't because of that?
Now yes volcanoes can and do influence climate change, but by no means add extra degrees, but as we've seen, lower temperatures. The only sane thing left to assume would be mankind.
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Why? Since we've already proved that global temperatures have increased over the past 50 years, which is also coincidentally the same time man had a massive population increase, with use of more man-made materials, vehicles, and then factories that omit greenhouse gases and still the change in temperature still isn't because of that?
Now yes volcanoes can and do influence climate change, but by no means add extra degrees, but as we've seen, lower temperatures. The only sane thing left to assume would be mankind.
I said climate change - not global warming. and there is no proof whatsoever that mankind has influenced a change in the climate. There are "scientific models" that these theorists, to include barry obama, lean toward and decry they are proof - but that just is not the case.
And yes, any change in temperature in the past fifty years cannot be linked with proof to any change in the population. I invite anyone to show credible evidence (lack of assumption).
Don't buy into the hog wash Anarchy. That pinochio is growing at an astounding rate.
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I said climate change - not global warming. and there is no proof whatsoever that mankind has influenced a change in the climate. There are "scientific models" that these theorists, to include barry obama, lean toward and decry they are proof - but that just is not the case.
And yes, any change in temperature in the past fifty years cannot be linked with proof to any change in the population. I invite anyone to show credible evidence (lack of assumption).
Don't buy into the hog wash Anarchy. That pinochio is growing at an astounding rate.
There are over 30 billion metric tonnes of carbon emissions into our atmosphere every year. That is 100 more than that of volcanic emissions yearly, there is simply no way it is not us, we've been producing massive amounts of pollution since the Industrial Revolution. And yes population increase would most definitely contribute to more emissions. As we grow in population we have demands for more energy, more materials. It's the same as it has been since our existence, more people more food, shelter, water, then money, territory, everything. So as we grow now so does everything with us.
With the massive amounts of CO2 we produce, saying global warming isn't the truth is comparable to saying we don't omit any greenhouse gases at all.
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This graph tells pretty much about Co2 levels in the atmosphere:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png)
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There are over 30 billion metric tonnes of carbon emissions into our atmosphere every year. That is 100 more than that of volcanic emissions yearly, there is simply no way it is not us, we've been producing massive amounts of pollution since the Industrial Revolution. And yes population increase would most definitely contribute to more emissions. As we grow in population we have demands for more energy, more materials. It's the same as it has been since our existence, more people more food, shelter, water, then money, territory, everything. So as we grow now so does everything with us.
With the massive amounts of CO2 we produce, saying global warming isn't the truth is comparable to saying we don't omit any greenhouse gases at all.
Hyperbole
Please cite a credible reference. If humans are causing climate change due to their CO2 emissions, let me ask you this - what is the biggest producer of CO2 - by far?
I'll save you the digging. It's the oceans. Which BTW, have been around a long, long, long time.
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This graph tells pretty much about Co2 levels in the atmosphere:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png)
Yes exactly. Earth has gone through and through cycles of warm and cool periods, we've ended up in a warm period but we've obviously changed the cycle by increasing the temps.
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Yes exactly. Earth has gone through and through cycles of warm and cool periods, we've ended up in a warm period but we've obviously changed the cycle by increasing the temps.
That's a typical lefty worldview mate. We 'obviously' have changed the cycle - it must be? What other conclusion can we arrive at?
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Hyperbole
Please cite a credible reference. If humans are causing climate change due to their CO2 emissions, let me ask you this - what is the biggest producer of CO2 - by far?
I'll save you the digging. It's the oceans. Which BTW, have been around a long, long, long time.
That information is from the U.S Energy Information Administration.
Yes it is the oceans alongside with other natural sources which in turn dwarfs ours, but our emissions upset the equilibrium, it's the reason why our climate cycle has gone to a higher temperature on average compared to the last hundreds of thousands of years.
The amount of carbon emissions by our planet is 750 million tonnes, and it has been balanced for millions upon millions of years, now, you add that extra 30 million from us, that is more than enough to disrupt the balance.
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How do you explain the ice caps on Mars melting without any human industry there?
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How do you explain the ice caps on Mars melting without any human industry there?
A single volcano eruption could wipe out most of the the entire planets population... silly carbon in the atmosphere... :)
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How do you explain the ice caps on Mars melting without any human industry there?
Mars has a atmosphere extremely thinner than our planet, therefore it has less protection against the sun's raw power and it just beams down on the planet constantly. Not only is it thinner but then it has a higher carbon percentage.
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the ocean doesn't 'contribute carbon to the atmosphere', the atmosphere and the ocean exchange carbon. there's an equilibrium between the two. where do you think the ocean would be getting all of this carbon dioxide from? i once had a guy tell me that you shouldn't choose wind-generated electricity because 'wind doesn't blow at night, so you lose power'. think critically about things instead of just regurgitating garbage that supports your worldview.
(http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/CarbonCycle/images/carbon_cycle.jpg)
by the way, carbon dioxide dissolved in water exists in equilibrium with carbonic acid, meaning that the more overall carbon dioxide there is the more carbonic acid there is as well. so while the ocean absorbs a lot of CO2, it's also becoming more acidic.
volcanoes are pretty cool
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Could not the sun be the culprit for 'global warming'? NASA reports an increase of solar flares in recent years and states the sun is hotter than normal in recent years.
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Might possibly just cause storms. No climate change as it can't cause temperature rise and doesn't block out enough of the sun to cool a lot of temperatures below average. It is quite interesting, however that is has power to do either, even in just that small region.
Read up on Krakatoa.
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Could not the sun be the culprit for 'global warming'? NASA reports an increase of solar flares in recent years and states the sun is hotter than normal in recent years.
Correct, but for some it is easier to buy into mularky and then keep that fire going.
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Read up on Krakatoa.
I've heard of that bama. That was the one condor mentioned...I remember that now...I will say she is not the average volcano. :old:
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Read up on Krakatoa.
I've heard of that bama. That was the one condor mentioned...I remember that now...I will say she is not the average volcano. :old:
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Could not the sun be the culprit for 'global warming'? NASA reports an increase of solar flares in recent years and states the sun is hotter than normal in recent years.
Variation in the sun's temperature generally varies on a 10-30 span and doesn't have much of a lasting or important effect on the bigger picture. A slower, but overall stronger forcing (really the primary forcing) is the variability of radiation the earth receives due to changes in its orbit and axis (Milankovich cycles - major ones are ~20,000, ~40,000, and ~100,000 years long)
(http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/clip_image002_thumb1.gif?w=583&h=360)
This shows total insolation (energy received from the sun) with '0' being present day. As you can see, we are almost (but not quite yet) at a minimum for insolation.
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I've heard of that bama. That was the one condor mentioned...I remember that now...I will say she is not the average volcano. :old:
So you are a volcanologist? Duly noted.
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So you are a volcanologist? Duly noted.
Comparing a small-medium sized eruption with the one of the deadliest in human history is a bit much
Regardless, Krakatoa caused about 5 years of cold temperatures and weird weather, not exactly catastrophic in that sense
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Comparing a small-medium sized eruption with the one of the deadliest in human history is a bit much
Regardless, Krakatoa caused about 5 years of cold temperatures and weird weather, not exactly catastrophic in that sense
Even you missed my point of that statement.
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So you are a volcanologist? Duly noted.
Are you? I don't think it's too hard to tell that out of the thousands of volcanoes on Earth that this one is a bit above average? :aok
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Are you? I don't think it's too hard to tell that out of the thousands of volcanoes on Earth that this one is a bit above average? :aok
I am not the one using cut and pastes from the Internet. Keep up the smilie usage, it makes you appear more intelligent.
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I am not the one using cut and pastes from the Internet. Keep up the smilie usage, it makes you appear more intelligent.
You wanna find where I cut and paste. I'll be happy to sit for a lecture, professor
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Are you? I don't think it's too hard to tell that out of the thousands of volcanoes on Earth that this one is a bit above average? :aok
The point is - A divine deity, or call it "mother nature", has much more influence of the climate than humans do.
Climatologists state the Earth's temperature is much hotter in recent years.
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The point is - A divine deity, or call it "mother nature", has much more influence of the climate than humans do.
Climatologists state the Earth's temperature is much hotter in recent years.
I understand.
I never disagreed with exactly that as temperature change isn't the only thing that falls under climate.
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How do you explain the ice caps on Mars melting without any human industry there?
They did not melt. They evaporated when Mars lost enough atmospheric pressure for the ice to change state.
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Don't mind him Anarchy, in all the years I've been here he's always come off as a bitter know it all. Just look at his post count.
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The Bat Signal has been lit.
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I even knew that big volcano activity affects the climate.
Darwin said we were related to volcanoes and thus look like monkeys :old:
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Now a huge earthquake in Nepal... stuff's happening under ground.
Feeling tremors, people on San Andreas?
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Don't mind him Anarchy, in all the years I've been here he's always come off as a bitter know it all. Just look at his post count.
Oh so I'm a bitter know it all? Cool
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Oh so I'm a bitter know it all? Cool
No, I wasn't referring to you... but you do seem to dislike me even though this is one of the only times I have ever spoken to you. Care to clear the air? :cheers:
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No, I wasn't referring to you... but you do seem to dislike me even though this is one of the only times I have ever spoken to you. Care to clear the air? :cheers:
I have no problem with you whatsoever. I was a bit surprised and yes I thought you were referring to me.
Sorry about that - my misunderstanding.
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Sorry about that - my misunderstanding.
Honor in a game BBS say it aint so.....
some should learn this.
:salute ammo
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I have no problem with you whatsoever. I was a bit surprised and yes I thought you were referring to me.
Sorry about that - my misunderstanding.
He's referring to me after myself having never said a single word to him in game, or in here. It's also funny that he should not include his squadmate Someguy, who appears to have a career in both Chilean Volcanology and Climatology. Maryland and Chile are right next to each other for the occasional picnic.
But ammo, rest assured, I am not bitter. Far from it actually, tired of certain cut and paste posts attempting to dictate to others, that "this will have zero effect", when that region will have some after effects. Also, anyone using basic sociolinguistics can look back and point it out as well.
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Might possibly just cause storms. No climate change as it can't cause temperature rise and doesn't block out enough of the sun to cool a lot of temperatures below average. It is quite interesting, however that is has power to do either, even in just that small region.
Are you talking about this post.
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He's referring to me after myself having never said a single word to him in game, or in here. It's also funny that he should not include his squadmate Someguy, who appears to have a career in both Chilean Volcanology and Climatology. Maryland and Chile are right next to each other for the occasional picnic.
But ammo, rest assured, I am not bitter. Far from it actually, tired of certain cut and paste posts attempting to dictate to others, that "this will have zero effect", when that region will have some after effects. Also, anyone using basic sociolinguistics can look back and point it out as well.
I know you aren't a bitter person - I believe you are quite the opposite.
Wake up America - "the age of enlightenment" is a bunch of lies. Long live liberty and freedom in the USA
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the ocean doesn't 'contribute carbon to the atmosphere', the atmosphere and the ocean exchange carbon. there's an equilibrium between the two. where do you think the ocean would be getting all of this carbon dioxide from? i once had a guy tell me that you shouldn't choose wind-generated electricity because 'wind doesn't blow at night, so you lose power'.
He was right. When the wind doesn't blow, coal burning backup generators are started with blaaaaack puffs of smoke. The more wind power you use the more you promote using coal for power. Oh the irony. Not to mention wind power is so expensive to generate that it has to be subvented by the government so you get a double whammy. Higher taxes AND more coal burning.
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Magnetic motors will be the energy source of the future. It is a rather new creation but imagine creating energy with the use of magnets propelling a fan. It will always spin, doesn't cause any pollution or bird killing, and doesn't cost anything to keep it powered. Check out some vids on YouTube of magnetic motors.
That 1 volcano put more CO2 and other cmpounds into the sky than all of human South America combined ever. It will cause some short term ecological, environmental, and some climate change. My arguement is that no man made creation could ever amount to this much CO2/compounds into the atmosphere at one time for it to cause this type of change. That is why cloud seeding for a grand effect is BS, as well as chemtrails. It's BS and a waist of money and energy to create these things when it takes the emount of energy as a volcano to create this type of short term change (maybe about 6 months). While humans are changing some sort if equilibrium, all it takes is 1 volcano to spew to completely change the atmosohere. A Huge volcano would do an incredible amount of damage that we could not control. The only way humans will have an effect in stopping our foot print would be to find better energy sources and slow down our own emissions. That is simply it. You never know what the earth will do either. Plus, if North America doesn't see any effects of the Volcano, you will realize just how big the atmosphere really is, and how good it is at dispersing the compounds into and out of the atmosphere, enough for us to not even notice the effects of the volcano.