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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hitech on April 28, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
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Does any one use mouse view/look in the game?
HiTech
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When in bombers with F3, helps tons to line up targets and increased SA. Otherwise I use trackir.
I'd make a lot more films if free mouse view was available in the film viewer though...
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I use the mouse look in combination with hat switch when I'm scanning for cons. I also use it when I'm flying formation.
I don't use the Mouse while actively engaged.
I don't believe mouse look is enabled in F3 mode.
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Yes, just as when Glzz uses it.
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Same as Glzz...
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No, it's the first thing I turn off.
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Yes, when I'm in bombers or if I'm on auto-climb making sure no one is sneaking up on me...now if I'm engaged or if I know I'm fixing to be engaged I turn it off... :salute
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Never.....EVER....use mouse view........
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No sir. Except in an accidental manner
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Never.
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Never, not even in bombers.
TrackIr all the way in Fighters or GV, keypad in bombers
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Never - just a worn out hat switch.
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Nope.
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I use the mouse look in combination with hat switch when I'm scanning for cons. I also use it when I'm flying formation.
I don't use the Mouse while actively engaged.
This: yes, same here
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My answer is whatever makes development progress faster. :banana:
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When not using TrackIR in the cockpit, I tend to use F3, F8 and my hat switch to pan my view around.
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I had to pop in offline and check to see why I don't use mouse views. It's too slow to track, and you have to hit a key to get back to a forward view or you'll be dragging back. I'm sure I could mess around with the options to get it to roughly what War Thunder has, but feh. It's easier for me to F3/F8(?)(I can't remember if it's F8 or F9 that does a "slow" scan vs the snap scan) and scan for targets while in a bomber/GV. And the default method of scanning with num key's works in a fighter for me.
If you are going to keep it, it will need to be changed. Hitting and holding a key, using the mouse to scan, then letting go of the key for your view to snap back forward; set as a default method would work. It's default scan speed would need to be boosted a lot, to help with searching for/tracking cons until engaged.
If you are going to get rid of it, it won't bother me as I currently do not use it.
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Never knew there was a mouse view.
Not likely to start using it now.
- oldman
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I use mouse for both viewing and gunning when in gunner's position in bombers. Use the hat switch and mouse to view in F3, F4, F5 nad F8 modes at different times. Also use mouse in gun positions in vehicles, ships and manned guns on fields.
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It would be nice if mouse-view could be mapped to axes, so one could use the hatswitch for the current functionality found in mouse-view (effectively pan views mapped to X and Y inputs). A speed option that controls the speed of the panning would be nice as well, and would likely close the learning curve required for mapping preset views.
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I don't have TrackIR and if your on auto-climb I don't want to put my hand on the stick to use hat switches...if I'm not climbing for very long I don't use it...
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Mouse View is automatically activated when you log into the game. Shift + M will disable it. I don't use it since my left hand is on the keypad and my mouse is a bit far away from hand reach. I hardly use the mouse. I only use it when checking my E6B, Roster, or needing to check my control options and also while in the hangar. Most times I use the dot commands. By the way Hitech, Why did you ask this question?
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NO. I use F8 and Hat Switch or Keypad for that kind of thing.
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Rarely, but I do.
I use keyboard for 95% most of my viewing needs. I use the mouse to look around when cruising on auto-level, and to scout for GVs while flying low.
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I don't use it.
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Mouse View is automatically activated when you log into the game. Shift + M will disable it. I don't use it since my left hand is on the keypad and my mouse is a bit far away from hand reach. I hardly use the mouse. I only use it when checking my E6B, Roster, or needing to check my control options and also while in the hangar. Most times I use the dot commands. By the way Hitech, Why did you ask this question?
Was seeing if I could get rid of it, obviously I can not. I am rewrite a new mouse plane control,( don't panic the old system is also in place) and it can easily conflict with mouse views and gui control. I was debating how to implant things.
It would be nice if mouse-view could be mapped to axes, so one could use the hatswitch for the current functionality found in mouse-view (effectively pan views mapped to X and Y inputs). A speed option that controls the speed of the panning would be nice as well, and would likely close the learning curve required for mapping preset views.
I believe this is called pressing F8.
HiTech
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Using TIR so I have no use for it.
Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
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The mouse control tends to be a major problem with new players. They hit the wrong key and often ask for help.
I'd rather it was done away with, or at the very least make a message appear at the top of the screen. A message that can be disabled in settings, but something like;
Mouse view enabled, hit H to return to normal.
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No. F3 and view keys are sufficient in bombers.
In fighters, it's somewhere between useless and actively detrimental if you accidentally toggle it on.
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The mouse control tends to be a major problem with new players. They hit the wrong key and often ask for help.
I'd rather it was done away with, or at the very least make a message appear at the top of the screen. A message that can be disabled in settings, but something like;
Mouse view enabled, hit H to return to normal.
Never figured out how to use it and I've had TR since 2003.
Delirium has a point here, along with a need for even us vets. That on the front page of the clipboard, you can toggle a flip out page with all of your current keyboard assignments. We are no longer the AW generation who reveled in digging for answers in our games while keeping print outs next to the keyboard.
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Does any one use mouse view/look in the game?
HiTech
No, and i use mouse and keyboard for everything. I think other guys using mice use the keypad for views as I do. I hope this doesnt change much.
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We are no longer the AW generation who reveled in digging for answers in our games while keeping print outs next to the keyboard.
I still have my 3-ring binder that I made in 2007. GEEK ALERT :bolt:
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Yes. When scouting for cons (on autopilot) in fighters. Most of the time in bombers and always as a gunner.
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never knew we could use the mouse to pan for views.
semp
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I only use a mouse for views... guess I am the wierd one.
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Nah..
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I only use a mouse for views... guess I am the wierd one.
Do you use a mouse as a flight controller too? This should be the question. Who that uses a mouse for flight control uses it for views also? Assuming you are trying to draw a crowd using a cheaper alternative to play the game. I might be off track here...
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Yes, I have been using mouse view from day 1 and would be incredibly upset if something happened to it. :( :salute
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Does any one use mouse view/look in the game?
HiTech
I do. I dont use it a ton, and i dont for combat, but I use it to scan around, fly formation or use it as a "sticky" view so I don't have to hold down my hat switch.
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If I may make a suggestion... I use mouse views with a laptop mouse pad, with that said, adding a mouse "smoothing" slider along with the current X/Y sensitivity sliders would be greatly appreciated by anyone using mouse views with a traditional PC mouse. :pray
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No
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If I may make a suggestion... I use mouse views with a laptop mouse pad, with that said, adding a mouse "smoothing" slider along with the current X/Y sensitivity sliders would be greatly appreciated by anyone using mouse views with a traditional PC mouse. :pray
How do you toggle that on and off?
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Do you use a mouse as a flight controller too? This should be the question. Who that uses a mouse for flight control uses it for views also? Assuming you are trying to draw a crowd using a cheaper alternative to play the game. I might be off track here...
No, I have a twisty stick I use, but when I first started my old stick did not have a hat switch and was forced to use a mouse. Now it is just habit I guess.
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All i use is mouse for view
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Ive heard warthunder is configured to help mouse users, but have yet to try it. I hope whatever is the "default" is easier for someone using a mouse to understand, for the sake of "ease of use" :cheers:
If you use a mouse for plane control, I dont see mouse view toggle being easy any way you crack the egg.
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How do you toggle that on and off?
Which part?
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Mouse view
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Never
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Mouse view
Preferences > View Options > Start in Mouse Look then the H key swaps between mouse flight and mouse view (I think). I'm able to put my throttle right next to my mouse pad so it works wonderfully.
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Preferences > View Options > Start in Mouse Look then the H key swaps between mouse flight and mouse view (I think). I'm able to put my throttle right next to my mouse pad so it works wonderfully.
got it
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Never use it.
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I like the simulation side of the game myself so I always want all vies to be cockpit views including bombers. No F3. That being said, using mouse view in the cockpit is very reasonable.
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Never use mouse views. In fact, never tried mouse views. Maybe I'm missing something...
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I always turn it off
mouse view in film viewer would be great though
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Preferences > View Options > Start in Mouse Look then the H key swaps between mouse flight and mouse view (I think). I'm able to put my throttle right next to my mouse pad so it works wonderfully.
Shift M also toggles mouse look on/off
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So how do you use a game pad and mouse look combined with mouse attitude control? Or are those mini joysticks effectively? Or does including a game pad API into the game require cutting out mouse view?
Aces High 3 may well become "Gamers Thumb" central if that happens. Or will that bias towards the statistical minority like da Vinci who can write with both hands at the same time?
Can you imagine an xBox raised 6 year old winning KOTH because he can use both thumb toggles like we use TrackIR and our HOTAS?
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Can you imagine an xBox raised 6 year old winning KOTH because he can use both thumb toggles like we use TrackIR and our HOTAS?
Can you use a game controller to play AH...if so has anyone tried it...I could see using a controller to gv like a mofo... :rock
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Never
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And pigs don't fly do they......
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And pigs don't fly do they......
Not for very long. lol
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I use mouse view for gunning and being a zipper head (tanker) only. I leave my joystick out of it unless I'm piloting - and then I use mouseview when flying bombers.
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Don't think I've ever used mouse views once.
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HELL YES. NEVER A SORTIE WITH OUT IT
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I never use it.
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When not using TrackIR in the cockpit, I tend to use F3, F8 and my hat switch to pan my view around.
This for me too.
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What the hell is mouse view ??? Track IR rules !!!! :neener:
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Never.
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Don't use it at all
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Not for very long. lol
Yea. We had a governor thought the same thing.
This is how the people responded LOL
No Im not going to get into why to avoid rule violation.
Just wanted to point out that sometimes pigs do fly
(http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2008/02/large_AAPIGRALLY.jpg)
Back on topic.
I didnt even know we had a mouse view
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Never
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never tried it. I use a TrackIR5
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Maybe Hitech should have asked this?
How many of you are left handed and use the mouse on the left of your keyboard for mouse views while flying and shooting with the joystick in your right hand? Or utilize mouse view in that manner as a right hander?
TrackIR came from the medical industry so that incapacitated PC users could use their head as their mouse. Mouse view once you trained yourself to it, is almost as good as TrackIR. Better than a hat switch. A poor mans TR.
I use the mouse for gun turret and manned guns and GV. All of which I'm just as good with my joystick. The mouse in those positions is easier to make very fine control motions opposed to fighting your joystick.
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Maybe Hitech should have asked this?
How many of you are left handed and use the mouse on the left of your keyboard for mouse views while flying and shooting with the joystick in your right hand? Or utilize mouse view in that manner as a right hander?
TrackIR came from the medical industry so that incapacitated PC users could use their head as their mouse. Mouse view once you trained yourself to it, is almost as good as TrackIR. Better than a hat switch. A poor mans TR.
I use the mouse for gun turret and manned guns and GV. All of which I'm just as good with my joystick. The mouse in those positions is easier to make very fine control motions opposed to fighting your joystick.
I use mouse views like that all the time in conjunction with hat views
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Mouse Views:
Bomber Gunner External View : Exclusively use mouse
Fighter Internal View (non-combat): In co-ordination with keypad views to assist in scanning for targets, also verifying gauges/indicators (my wheels are still down! :bhead)
Ground Vehicles: 60% of the time for course view changes; switch to joystick for fine tuning range.
All Manned guns used a combination of joystick and mouse views.
Why the survey HiTech?