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Title: Low numbers
Post by: seano on May 04, 2015, 11:43:16 AM
Yes, I miss the days of 600 targets in the main arena.  Thinking about this, I've figured out the problem.  The problem is Apple!! You can't play aces high on an iPad.  You can't play it on a mac book. The market share of these products has grown tremendously since 2006.  I have 2 friends that would play, but since they have macs, they can't.  They aren't going to buy a new computer to play aces high. Just a thought, but maybe the new update could be Mac friendly.  I'd bet numbers could go up 25 percent. 
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: MrKrabs on May 04, 2015, 11:44:36 AM
Wait... People actually use those things?  :O
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Dragon Tamer on May 04, 2015, 11:55:22 AM
I think there is a way to put a windows OS on a mac, I've never done it though.

I seem to remember a post a few years ago that mentions playing AH on a mac using this method.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Krupinski on May 04, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Most people who buy Mac Books don't intend on playing any sort of games outside of their web browser in the first place....
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Skyyr on May 04, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPXFptzQRY
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: glzsqd on May 04, 2015, 12:44:10 PM
Unless your friends are using their macs for music/studio work or video and photo editing, their kind of dumb.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: bustr on May 04, 2015, 02:52:38 PM
Early 90's I had a friend who was a certified Mac tech. One day at his home I asked him how do you work on the Mac when there are no visible screws to open the case. He pulls out a screwdriver that is about 22 inches long. Tells me to turn his MacShell\monitor up side down and stick the screw driver all the way to the hilt in the 4 holes.

When I opened the shell, very little inside was upgradeable or even expandable.

He got paid twice as much as a PC tech who had to be able to replace everything in a PC to do his job, know the vicisitudes of Windows, while the PC tech's company usually looked at him as an over priced janitor.

If Apple had wanted anything Windows defiling their con game, they would have let Billy Boy kiss their tusshy a long time ago. Very special people use Mac's. Or so they tell the rest of us they are.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: pembquist on May 04, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Again with the Mac Hate.

The thing that was great about Macs was that since they locked down the hardware, (even if not the best,) the software worked. The PC was always an unstable ball of tedium and it seemed like you had to know all kinds of fast obsoleting trivia to make it work.

Nowadays I don't know, my windows 7 seems pretty stable.

If you do want to use a mac you just run windows on it from a partition. On a newer mac it probably is better than this Vista box I have now.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Skuzzy on May 04, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
You could not play Aces High on any iPad, even if we did a port. The CPU's are too slow, and none of the iPads prior to the Air 2 have enough system RAM.  There are more issues, but those kill the deal right off the bat.

The Mac books are in a similar situation.  The CPU's are too slow (Intel M series processors at 1.x Ghz).  The Intel GPU could handle it, except you could not run at the native resolution of the monitor as there are too many pixels for the GPU to keep up.

The next generation of the game is even more demanding on the video hardware.  There is just no way for it to run on iPads or Mac books.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Oldman731 on May 04, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
You could not play Aces High on any iPad, even if we did a port. The CPU's are too slow, and none of the iPads prior to the Air 2 have enough system RAM.  There are more issues, but those kill the deal right off the bat.


But perhaps you could do what X-Plane did, and make a lite version for iPads...?  If nothing else, it might work as a useful introduction to the iPad generation.

I'm sure it would be easy enough to write the code, probably could spin it out in a few hours....

- oldman
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Lusche on May 04, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
I'm sure it would be easy enough to write the code, probably could spin it out in a few hours....

 :lol
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Hetzer7 on May 04, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
You can install/run Windows on a Mac, you just need a seperate partition. AH should run fine its pretty lightweight.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 07, 2015, 11:20:04 AM
Yes, I miss the days of 600 targets in the main arena.  Thinking about this, I've figured out the problem.  The problem is Apple!! You can't play aces high on an iPad.  You can't play it on a mac book. The market share of these products has grown tremendously since 2006.  I have 2 friends that would play, but since they have macs, they can't.  They aren't going to buy a new computer to play aces high. Just a thought, but maybe the new update could be Mac friendly.  I'd bet numbers could go up 25 percent.

Rather see Linux-friendly since I am dumping Windows once and for all.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Zacherof on May 07, 2015, 07:09:35 PM
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Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Hap on May 07, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
Some of my happiest days was when I had an iMac.  Game played greatly.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 07, 2015, 07:59:57 PM
Rather see Linux-friendly since I am dumping Windows once and for all.

linux friendly or linux begging for somebody to make drivers for some of your hardware.


semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 08, 2015, 05:50:01 AM
linux friendly or linux begging for somebody to make drivers for some of your hardware.


semp

You lost me.  :headscratch:

I run Linux Mint for everything except AH.   Lightning fast.  Stable.  Even pulled a 7-year old laptop out of storage and put Mint on that sucker.   Runs like a brand new machine. 

Now if only AH would run on it I would be set.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: caldera on May 08, 2015, 06:37:48 AM
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Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 08, 2015, 07:05:42 PM
You lost me.  :headscratch:

I run Linux Mint for everything except AH.   Lightning fast.  Stable.  Even pulled a 7-year old laptop out of storage and put Mint on that sucker.   Runs like a brand new machine. 

Now if only AH would run on it I would be set.

think about this carefully why doesnt ah run well on linux?


semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 08, 2015, 07:23:34 PM
think about this carefully why doesnt ah run well on linux?


semp

Because AH is beholden to a bloated operating system that sucks?
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 08, 2015, 08:05:31 PM
Because AH is beholden to a bloated operating system that sucks?

well allow me to retort, what does marsellus wallace look like?

see this is why people like you who quit and wont stop whining get banned from the bb.  I'll give you an example, I could never install linux mint on my computer because I had sli cards and there was no drivers in linux for it.  also my sound card didnt have drivers available so I had no sound if I used only 1 card.  the list goes on an on.

linux is getting better but it still doesnt have drivers for all the hardware out there.  so you expect ah to provide drivers for every possible configuration when linux itself doesnt?

say what gain, i dare you I double dare you.


semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Bino on May 08, 2015, 09:13:23 PM
According to what I can find on a few websites, the variants of Mac OS X account for less than 8% of the desktop market.

Now, that's what I call low numbers.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 07:26:51 AM
well allow me to retort, what does marsellus wallace look like?

see this is why people like you who quit and wont stop whining get banned from the bb.  I'll give you an example, I could never install linux mint on my computer because I had sli cards and there was no drivers in linux for it.  also my sound card didnt have drivers available so I had no sound if I used only 1 card.  the list goes on an on.

linux is getting better but it still doesnt have drivers for all the hardware out there.  so you expect ah to provide drivers for every possible configuration when linux itself doesnt?

say what gain, i dare you I double dare you.


semp

What?
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 09, 2015, 06:19:04 PM
What?


shame you dont really know why it's so hard to play aces high on linux.



semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 06:36:53 PM

shame you dont really know why it's so hard to play aces high on linux.



semp

What?
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 09, 2015, 07:24:28 PM

shame you dont really know why it's so hard to play aces high on linux.



semp

You're going to have to spell out to him why AH is written to cater to the most players (not that he represents an active AH player). If V is trying to sell Linux here let's hope there's something in it for him. Free set of Linux knee pads, perhaps?
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
^^^^^

This guy just can't get off my junk.   Creepy. 
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 09, 2015, 07:47:04 PM
^Not 'ignoring.'

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn135/dazzle_me90/GIF/gibbsheadslap.gif)
Wasn't even posting to you.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 07:53:34 PM
^^^^^^

And so it continues.   The obsession.   :rofl
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 09, 2015, 07:56:40 PM
Squad recruitment is something players can do (and have done) to help numbers. We're talking the personal face-to-face kind. Some of us may have to get out more anyway and we all have real life friends, right? Bound to be a few that have similar interests and may have flown a flight sim or two. Too embarrassed to admit you're an AH junkie? Tell 'em about the 2 free weeks and make sure you're there for `em as they try it.

Now about the griefers and spoilers ... doesn't anyone enjoy hunting the misbehaving kids anymore? That used to be a fun game unto itself.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 09, 2015, 08:07:08 PM
that's the problem I see.  for example v made a comment about hitech not making a statement about hq griefing in the same thread where hitech mentioned that it was not an easy fix.  so go figure.


semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
that's the problem I see.  for example v made a comment about hitech not making a statement about hq griefing in the same thread where hitech mentioned that it was not an easy fix.  so go figure.


semp


Learn to read bubba.  He made the statement after many of us quit in exasperation over no comment from him about it at all.   I merely mentioned my wish he had said something sooner.  Perhaps I would have kept dumping my money in if he had. 


Please...  Keep up or pipe down.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 09, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
that's the problem I see.  for example v made a comment about hitech not making a statement about hq griefing in the same thread where hitech mentioned that it was not an easy fix.  so go figure.


semp

He's 'helping' the only way he knows how - by cancelling his subscription, asking others to join him in that and staying a puffy nuisance on the forum.

Any other game on the internet and he'd be trying to sneak back through a new forum account by now.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Vraciu on May 09, 2015, 08:23:12 PM
^^^^ Can't stop stalking me.   I hope he is on the payroll at least.  Probably loves in a box in the parking lot where HTC is based.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: BuckShot on May 11, 2015, 08:07:36 AM
The company I work for owns about 300-400 different types of air quality, water quality, and geo survey instruments; all of which can connect to computers to download data.

Guess how many can connect to Apples? One. It uses i-products as the interface (cool!). The only people who like it are Apple people.

If Apples are so great, why do most equipment manufacturers build their stuff to work with only MS?

This is not a rhetorical question, it's something I've always wondered.



Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: seano on May 13, 2015, 02:11:36 AM
According to what I can find on a few websites, the variants of Mac OS X account for less than 8% of the desktop market.

Now, that's what I call low numbers.


8 percent of of owners is what number? In the USA? 2 million people? We only need like 100 new early daytime players and 200 more at prime time to make a huge difference. 
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 13, 2015, 07:16:48 AM
And we'll get those by coding for Linux? Factor in percentage of people who play this genre of game within those 2 million. Think 'point oh something.' Ten maybe. Stress maybe.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Lusche on May 13, 2015, 10:39:15 AM

8 percent of of owners is what number? In the USA? 2 million people? We only need like 100 new early daytime players and 200 more at prime time to make a huge difference.

If things were only that easy.

If you are talking about 200 more subscribers - you would hardly note that in the actual online numbers.

If you are talking about an additional 200 player online during primetime...  you'd need something like 6 to 10 times more subscribers than that number to reach that goal.  And "100 more players" online during early (US) daytime would probably mean something like doubling or even tripling the current playerbase.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: save on May 13, 2015, 11:05:37 AM
Linux Wine still is not good enough for prime time gaming IMO.

Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: bustr on May 13, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
To bad server based virtual desktops only run well for business apps and spread sheets. I guess your PC would still have to run the drivers locally for the HOTAS while your video card's 3D functions were supported by the virtualization.

There are probably too many limitations that make this practical for PC game functionality.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 14, 2015, 09:59:33 AM
You can install/run Windows on a Mac, you just need a seperate partition. AH should run fine its pretty lightweight.

Indeed. It runs well on my Windows 7 partitions.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: JVboob on May 15, 2015, 04:56:28 AM
Unless your friends are using their macs for music/studio work or video and photo editing, their kind of dumb.
They're  :O
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: guncrasher on May 15, 2015, 10:41:26 AM

8 percent of of owners is what number? In the USA? 2 million people? We only need like 100 new early daytime players and 200 more at prime time to make a huge difference.

funny thing is that I have never heard of anybody using a mac to play any game.  not that they dont, but I dont have a single friend who has a mac.


semp
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: Arlo on May 15, 2015, 12:00:50 PM
I have a friend that has a Mac. A big one.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: bustr on May 15, 2015, 03:18:00 PM
Every company I have worked at, the department that creates marketing advertisements or the WEB site. The artists are Mac people. Interfacing them into a Microsoft based environment is more trouble than they are worth. And they whine a lot to boot.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 21, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
In any case, there is no need for a mac-coded version. I'm a dual user and the boot partition I use to run windows 7 on Mac works as well as running windows native on our Windows machines.

In short, anyone who WANTS to run AH already can, be they Windows or Mac people.
Title: Re: Low numbers
Post by: LTCClark on May 22, 2015, 06:23:39 PM
its called a virtual machine VMware will run AHII successfully with great graphics.