General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ghi on May 05, 2015, 09:03:37 PM
Title: Human Head transplant
Post by: ghi on May 05, 2015, 09:03:37 PM
I've just read this story again on National Georaphic ,this Italian neurosurgeon Sergio Canavero, wants to do it ; all kind of controversy in news about this calling it unethical, Frankenstein ; ...... :headscratch: :headscratch:
:airplane: Darn good idea Zack! How about Snailman and Latrobe heads on one body, would that be the ultimate AH player? LOL
More like Snail's head and Latrobe's feet...have you ever seen his hobbitt feet? He had a video out showing his rudder pedals and feet...they need shaving more that Grizzly Adams! :x :bolt:
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Lusche on May 06, 2015, 07:21:40 AM
:airplane: Darn good idea Zack! How about Snailman and Latrobe heads on one body, would that be the ultimate AH player? LOL
That creature made of two highly incompatible players would just sit in the tower, arguing with itself all day:
Look! A horde over our field! Quick, up a 109 and have fun... let's see how many we can take with us before going down - No! We should take of 2 sectors away in a 262 and come in on them at 20k!(If they are still there, that is...)
I'm bored... Let's rattle their cage on 200 and fly low and slow over their base - No, let's up a B-29 and spend 60 minutes in an exciting climbout
We are hit.... oh, it's only the rudder... we don't need no stinkin rudder! Ain't even got a single kill yet... - We've been HIT? Were are DAMAGED? OMG... we must dive home at once!
Hello guys, where's the fight? - Hold your horses! First, we have to examine the map... very carefully! Maybe we can spot another strat raider within the hour!
:noid
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Scherf on May 06, 2015, 08:32:50 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: 68valu on May 06, 2015, 09:06:28 AM
That creature made of two highly incompatible players would just sit in the tower, arguing with itself all day:
Look! A horde over our field! Quick, up a 109 and have fun... let's see how many we can take with us before going down - No! We should take of 2 sectors away in a 262 and come in on them at 20k!(If they are still there, that is...)
I'm bored... Let's rattle their cage on 200 and fly low and slow over their base - No, let's up a B-29 and spend 60 minutes in an exciting climbout
We are hit.... oh, it's only the rudder... we don't need no stinkin rudder! Ain't even got a single kill yet... - We've been HIT? Were are DAMAGED? OMG... we must dive home at once!
Hello guys, where's the fight? - Hold your horses! First, we have to examine the map... very carefully! Maybe we can spot another strat raider within the hour!
:noid
friggin classic!!!
made me smile this morning
68valu
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: ghi on May 06, 2015, 09:59:14 AM
The first successful penile transplant was performed few months ago in South Africa;. from CNN: "Doctors claim first successful p.. transplant By Joseph Netto, CNN Updated 8:24 PM ET, Fri March 13, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/health/noodle-transplant-south-africa/
How do they find donors? :headscratch: Do they perform head transplant in same clinic ,mixing body parts? :confused:
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: guncrasher on May 06, 2015, 10:02:33 AM
I want my manboobs transplanted to my gf's body and hers on mine. I wonder if he can do that and how much will it cost?
semp
edit: for the record, mine are bigger.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: NatCigg on May 06, 2015, 10:22:59 AM
I like this idea. :aok and I know where we can get a source of bodies. :old: prison! :old: yep with the new use of bodies we can justify loping a prisoners head because his body will go to a good place like, Michael Jordan, or Brett Favre, or me. :rock heck minus a stroke or brain cancer i could see myself living for a long time. :banana:
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Meatwad on May 06, 2015, 12:28:32 PM
So after the surgery will it be on stage singing "puttin on the ritz"?
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Sabre on May 06, 2015, 01:51:18 PM
This doc who wants to try this on a human being talks as if he has all the answers on how to do this. That's like me saying I can go out and fly a helicopter because I understand the theory of operating one, even though I've never actually flown one (though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, once). The lynch pin of the entire procedure is a proposed method to cleanly sever the spinal chords of both the donor and the recipient, then using a fairly common chemical to fuse the spinal chords together. To the best of my knowledge, having read a number of articles about this, that's never been successfully demonstrated. Unfortunately, this doc already has some hopeless soul of a volunteer convinced this is just a year or two away from reality.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: bustr on May 06, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
So given our technology and advancements, which will happen first for the uber wealthy?
Full head transplant with no problems or full memory and consciousness transfer to the donor's body?
Lots of good work is happening with mice, telomeres, and turning back an old mouse's body clock and physical state to that of a youthful mouse. UCLA was working on a drug to help heart muscle repair itself versus scaring which eventually tears under load later on. A side effect was effective weight loss and muscle mass growth in the rest of your body without getting off the couch. The drug was targeting heart attack victims stuck being sedentary for long periods to recover. Body building in a bottle was one joke about it.
Read about it in Gizmag at the same time that 41 year old nobody lady swimmer, came out of no where, ripped and suddenly very strong, to beat out girls half here age for the Olympics. Her boyfriend just happened to be a nutritionist out of SoCal at the same time UCLA was working on that drug. Which the Olympics doping tests didn't test for at that time.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: fuzeman on May 06, 2015, 05:24:05 PM
So given our technology and advancements, which will happen first for the uber wealthy?
Full head transplant with no problems or full memory and consciousness transfer to the donor's body?
i believe head transplant ; ISIS can supply plenty of headless bodies ,maybe end up in rich punks freezer waiting for reincarnation;
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: bustr on May 06, 2015, 07:35:25 PM
Possibly since the age related trigger that turns off spinal cord cell regeneration has been discovered and turned back on in lab mice.
Sad thing about these things like that. I read the article when it comes out. Then I cannot find anything as a follow up in the future on how it is progressing or failed. Especially drugs like the body building in a bottle. Or the testing on mice that turned back the aging process equivalent to a 60 year old man having his aging process reversed to about his late 20's.
A common theme in all of these is the ability to keep excess youthful population around for a very indeterminate amount of time. If you are able to keep your internal age clock in it's 20's, and your body buff out of a bottle, and injuries healed by turning back on age disabled repair functions. When will you get out of the way of younger generations and let them have jobs? Will your ageless demographic refuse to give up control and never go away? Who would really be willing to commit suicide just to get out of the way for the good of future generations once they had these medical break trough's to live 200, 300, 500, 1000 ........even another 50 years with an effective 25 year old body?
Given human greed and lack of caring about anyone but self when it comes to these kinds of things. All of this will be abused to the farthest limits possible once it was made available. This would be a genie once let out of the bottle, that the bottle would be pulverized, then with millions, even billions of helping hands, shot into the sun.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: PR3D4TOR on May 06, 2015, 08:09:58 PM
People would still die from disease and accidents. And a one death = one child license arrangement would keep the population stable.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: BuckShot on May 06, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Or... We could have roll the dice wars where each side marches a number of their population into a vaporizer closet like the classic trek episode... Logan's run come to mind as well.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Groth on May 06, 2015, 09:47:54 PM
I know some I'd put forth as body donators...if the donators brains were destroyed after... No, that is too crass, they can keep Zack1234's head in bottle after... :) JGroth
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Dragon Tamer on May 06, 2015, 11:00:25 PM
I personally have issues with the ethics of this, I don't think it should be done. Death is something that humans have been dealing with for thousands of years, it's a mandatory part of being alive.
However, I do recognize the success of this operation as an incredibly important milestone. If this operation is a success and the patient makes a full recovery (as in the full regeneration of the spinal chord) it could pave the way for something even better IMO. When an organ donor goes into the hospital, the doctors are able to remove their organs and save several other lives because of that persons generosity. But if something like this is successful, it means that the arms and legs (as well as other currently unusable parts of the body) could also be given to someone who is in need.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Groth on May 07, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
Dragon Tamer, I am aware of your reservations. However, I am ready to accept your body for my head... Peace unto you and yours. Please keep Zack1234 in his bottle. JGroth
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Bruv119 on May 07, 2015, 01:42:12 AM
I know some I'd put forth as body donators...if the donators brains were destroyed after... No, that is too crass, they can keep Zack1234's head in bottle after... :) JGroth
how dare you :old:
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Slate on May 07, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
How about learning how to understanding the human body to have itself cure diseases and cancer instead of some grotesque lab experiment.
I know some I'd put forth as body donators...if the donators brains were destroyed after... No, that is too crass, they can keep Zack1234's head in bottle after... :) JGroth
How dare you! Again!
My head is full of Rainbows and Butterflies
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: Sabre on May 07, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
But if something like this is successful, it means that the arms and legs (as well as other currently unusable parts of the body) could also be given to someone who is in need.
Not to worry, DT. Adult and umbilical chord stem cell research is rapidly closing in on the ability to grow replacement organs, without the need for anti-rejection meds for the rest of the patient's life. Pretty cool stuff. They've already grown human hearts that were shown to be functional, though not yet in a human host. However, I do believe sections of tracheaes have been grown and successfully implanted into throat cancer patients. We're on the verge of a revolution in this research path, and with none of the ethical concerns that plague other lines of research.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: zack1234 on May 07, 2015, 01:38:29 PM
Will it fix stupid?
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: 10thmd on May 07, 2015, 02:49:11 PM
I like this idea. :aok and I know where we can get a source of bodies. :old: prison! :old: yep with the new use of bodies we can justify loping a prisoners head because his body will go to a good place like, Michael Jordan, or Brett Favre, or me. :rock heck minus a stroke or brain cancer i could see myself living for a long time. :banana:
I have worked as a Correctional Officer in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice...... you do not want an inmate body. Those guys are host so many diseases it is not even funny. Also even if they are disease free they are probably suffering from some form of organ failure brought on by consuming the multitudes of toilet hooch or self made drugs.
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: bustr on May 07, 2015, 06:35:02 PM
If you are happy that lab mice have been given things that improved their mouse cognitive ability. Along with improving it with older mice by setting their physical condition back to a younger age. Then it is probable a protein trigger will be turned into a therapy to gain humans some IQ points. And a few points in the lab with mice at least is all it took to see a world of difference between stupid and able to learn.
Now what people do with a few IQ points, is that your threshold for stupid? Some people just don't use what they have. The common factor amongst small business owners that determined their success in the U.S. at least. A very high level of persistence at what they were doing. Just hanging in there and grinding away day after, week after, month after year.
The rest of us colonials just sit on our couches eating pie and listening to Oprah. That must be where our IQs went.... :O
Now I remember, but, that was some time back when I thought I forgot. More pie will fix everything...... :old:
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: guncrasher on May 07, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
I have worked as a Correctional Officer in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice...... you do not want an inmate body. Those guys are host so many diseases it is not even funny. Also even if they are disease free they are probably suffering from some form of organ failure brought on by consuming the multitudes of toilet hooch or self made drugs.
I think he was referring to the white guys doing time for tax evasion. <end of sarcasm>.
semp
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: BuckShot on May 08, 2015, 05:29:14 AM
Bruce Jenner should look into this...
Title: Re: Human Head transplant
Post by: ghi on November 18, 2017, 01:25:40 PM
"World's first human head transplant successfully performed on a corpse, scientists say" :noid
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